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"I am married and no my other half doesn't know ! I have been honest on my profile and said this, have not pretended to be single..... Why is it that most of the ladies and lots of couples won't entertain the idea of playing with a married man , however they are more than happy to play with a married female in the same situation ?? what happened to sexualequality !!!lol G" Easy to explain there are loads of single males, and few single females . Nothing really to do with what you said We for instance dont have a problem with single married people (as long as they are honest and state this as you do) and neither do a lot of other couples Your problem is the same for 99% of single males and is little to do with the fact that you are married Chin up lol xx | |||
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"In my opinion if you play with an attached guy they get they get caught! Dont fancy some mad wifey knocking on my door, givin me grief! lol and im sure some would agree. Women are clever you will get caught! haha " have to agree with issy baby!!! iv had irrate wives n gfs ont fone to me!!! so i got sense and i no longer see attached guys!!!! x | |||
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"I cant believe you want to cheat on Princess Fiona!!! bet Donkey is in on this too!!!!" lmao, that made me laugh | |||
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"Kitty, that's a very sweeping statement to make when you arent aware of the reasons why married people choose to have sex outside their marriage.x" dont care what the excuse is, they lie to their partners and are cheating on them so i dont see how its a sweeping statment more of a fact. always makes me laugh when people say they are truthfull on their profile. try being truthfull to the person your cheating on. | |||
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"Kitty, that's a very sweeping statement to make when you arent aware of the reasons why married people choose to have sex outside their marriage.x" i wouldnt say its a sweeping statement, thats just kittys opinion, a lot of ppl feel like that. i agree with kitty on this one . | |||
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"Kitty, that's a very sweeping statement to make when you arent aware of the reasons why married people choose to have sex outside their marriage.x dont care what the excuse is, they lie to their partners and are cheating on them so i dont see how its a sweeping statment more of a fact. always makes me laugh when people say they are truthfull on their profile. try being truthfull to the person your cheating on. " i 100% agree with you kitty, there is no excuse to cheat on your partner, i'm just sat here thinking of what excuse would be ok for me if i found out my hubby was playing away!! cant think of any that would make it ok!! id sooner him be honest to me and leave if he wasnt happy than be honest to everyone else | |||
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"Kitty, that's a very sweeping statement to make when you arent aware of the reasons why married people choose to have sex outside their marriage.x" We would never play knowingly with attached persons of either sex. Cheating is cheating, regardless of whether they are male or female. There is no justifiable reason to cheat in my book. I've heard every excuse in the sun, from sexless marriage, illness, can't afford to divorce, not leaving cus of the kids........ blah blah. If anyone who is in a relationship has to join a swinging/sex/dating site to 'get their leg over', they are in the wrong relationship. You get one life and if there are aspects of that life that stink..... change them. Don't infest the swinging world with cheating.......... Swinging is about truth, honesty, fun, sexual liberation. Not about looking over your shoulder just in case some irate spouse comes looking for those that have corrupted their partner. | |||
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"I gave a reason (fact adduced argument) rather than an excuse (trying to lessen blame) as to why some people choose to have sex outside of marriage." Thats what makes us all so different and the world an interesting place. I PERSONALLY, don't think that there can be a fact based reason why people cheat..... I PERSONALLY think that cheating will always be an excuse for not having the balls to get out of a relationship......... But that's me. Each to their own as they say. Life is about being happy...... not about looking over your shoulder or lying your way through the week. Some people will play with marrieds (of either sex), some won't. It's freedom of choice which we should all be entitled to, the same as free will......... But it just gets my goat that attached people think that swinging is an easy option. It spoils it for those of us that swing because it's about sexual liberation, nothing more, nothing less. | |||
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"I gave a reason (fact adduced argument) rather than an excuse (trying to lessen blame) as to why some people choose to have sex outside of marriage. Thats what makes us all so different and the world an interesting place. I PERSONALLY, don't think that there can be a fact based reason why people cheat..... I PERSONALLY think that cheating will always be an excuse for not having the balls to get out of a relationship......... But that's me. Each to their own as they say. Life is about being happy...... not about looking over your shoulder or lying your way through the week. Some people will play with marrieds (of either sex), some won't. It's freedom of choice which we should all be entitled to, the same as free will......... But it just gets my goat that attached people think that swinging is an easy option. It spoils it for those of us that swing because it's about sexual liberation, nothing more, nothing less." so its not about getting your end away i knew there was more to it thanks lol to me if a guy wants to cheat why not go to a parlor or be honest with his wife and both join a club we have spoken to a few single guys on here who say they up for it but wife isnt makes me wonder why should my wife play with them when there wife is sat at home thinking he is working late i feel sorry for the women and men who have to do this id be a gibbering wreck if i found out my mrs was sneeking around and then saying she loved me when she got home | |||
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"We always ask at clubs if the single guy who is talking to us is married or in a realationship If they are honest all the better, not saying that that is right, and its not up too us to judge. But thats our opinion. AND THAT IS JUST AT CLUBS WE WOULD NEVER KNOWINGLY SEE AN ATTACHED PERSON AT ANY OTHER TIME We respect people being honest with us above everything else As we try to be honest with them What has really pissed us off and its happened twice at chams and once at another club In all instances we have asked the single male if he is in a relationship or married in all three cases they said yes so we said does your wife know you swing and does she swing They all replied that their wife didnt know and they would never bring their wife to a place like this All three found it puzzling when we walked away lol Craig x" Ooohhh tell me about it. They are so fecking pious. I was talking to a single male the other day, who told me that he was looking for a relationship with a (and I quote), "nice, normal girl." When I asked was 'nice' and 'normal' was, he stated that it wouldn't be with anyone who had ever swung because that would mean they had been 'round the block' a few times. I pointed out that I'd met Jason at a swinging club and he replied that obviously that was different cus Jason was a swinger!!!!! I mean..... WTF?????? He then asked......"you're not going to meet me now are you?" He went on to ask why. FFS......!!!!!! I just deleted and blocked him on here and msn. Strangely enough, the hypocritical idiot still has meet requests up most days. | |||
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"I am in a very loving, but sexless, marriage. Although my hubby doesn't know what I am doing we have spoken about it several times. I know for a fact he would rather I do it quietly without it affecting our family life than leave him to do it. So although I am cheating on him, this is preferable to us both than splitting up our family for the sake of some sexual experiences that I choose to have. I am not intending on having a full blown affair with anyone. I just want some fun sex. Also, I have met the OP, and he is a sweet guy who just wants some fun." No offence, but there are sites geared to chating husbands and wives. why not use them? Why use a swinging site? What you are doing is not swinging, it's cheating and for those of us that don't believe that cheaters should wear the swingers hat, that's generally what our problem is! As I said, no offence meant but MaritalAffair.co.uk and Lonelywivesaffairs.com are both sites that would cater for your needs. | |||
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"I can't see where it says you are married? maybe only you can see that bit of your profile and thast why it was questioned " I think it was written in ivisible ink .... | |||
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"Wow ! i thought ....bla bla bla If your taking things to the letter of the law about relationships etc then surely swinging is also wrong ! bla bla ba " Swinging isn't wrong provide all parties know anout it and are in agreement with it.. However Cheating and deciet is most certainly wrong in any form | |||
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"just checked my profile as you had me concerned that i had not indeed said i was married, however in the marital stauts bit it does say "married " Also if i mail someone new i will also tell them upfront in the opening mail." Nowhere on your profile does it say married. Strangely, one of your verifications actually says on her profile.......Not into marrieds! Strange that!!!!!!! | |||
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"In my opinion if you play with an attached guy they get they get caught! Dont fancy some mad wifey knocking on my door, givin me grief! lol and im sure some would agree. Women are clever you will get caught! haha " lmao (hope its ok to join in im fairly new to here) have had the exp of a mad wifey knocking on my door not fun. im in same situation and had a couple sort of have a go at me for it so dont think its just men it happens too m xxx | |||
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"In my opinion if you play with an attached guy they get they get caught! Dont fancy some mad wifey knocking on my door, givin me grief! lol and im sure some would agree. Women are clever you will get caught! haha lmao (hope its ok to join in im fairly new to here) have had the exp of a mad wifey knocking on my door not fun. im in same situation and had a couple sort of have a go at me for it so dont think its just men it happens too m xxx " Welcome to the forums.... The mad wifey's are a nightmare. I think many of us have had one at some point. Women are vicious, unbending and blind and deaf to the fact that their husbands are the cheaters... they always want to blame the 'other' woman. Which is why I don't believe cheaters, of either sex, should join swinging sites. | |||
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"everyone is entitled to there opinion but i think sometimes in life things arent that easy. i would have never believed that i could cheat until about 4 yrs ago. what i dont need as a married fem playing here alone is a lecture which ive had ppl message me and do lol" No one has the right to verbally abuse you, especially in private mail. However, you must expect a certain amount of backlash on the forums, after all, it is a debating area. I've been the worlds worst for having a pop at people for being married. I don't believe that cheaters should join swinging sites, but thats me. I just wish that people would be honest. I've been married 3 times because my two previous marriages were unhappy. I've got 3 grown up children who went through 2 divorces with me. But I don't regret a thing. I've married a swinger who I met in a club and I've never been so happy. I just wish people would see that we all have one life and we ALL deserve to be happy in every area of our lives. I may have been, and I still may be a lot of things, but one thing I have never been is dishonest. My dignity is intact and I can look at myself with pride. Something, I suspect, that cheaters can't do. | |||
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"just wish some people would give their opinions, but also respect what choices we have made. I have my opinions on single and married people swinging!! good and bad, but i respect they made that decision and would never dream of abusing someone for it" why dont ur respect your wifes choice of choosing to be in a faithfull marrage and stop cheating on her? or is she the only person u choose to disrespect? | |||
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"proves my point!!! its my life and i made that choice!! Kitty we have had our run ins in the past, but would never dream of attacking u for the way u live your life" now now, u stated about respect and stuff and i just wondered why the only person u are disrespecting is the person who you made vows to. what makes her less important for u to cheat on and disrespect but u speak onpenly about respecting people on a swingers site. its not an attack its a quiestion | |||
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"proves my point!!! its my life and i made that choice!! " what about your wifes choice? she made vows with you vows to be faithful. the only choice u made was to marry your wife then you choose to ignore your vows so your not very good at makeing choices are you? | |||
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"Most married men on here without their partners consent wouldn’t dream of letting anyone else near their wives, and that’s FACT, flame if you wish, they are selfish and only care about themselves, funnily enough they all describe themselves as honest and respectful, just never understood why some people can be honest to every tom, dick and harry but fail to be honest to the people that supposedly mean the most to them, notice we said some, that's because the rest lie full stop. " I suppose it is their conscience if they have one that they have to live with. We don't meet with married men for a few reasons, we wouldn't meet with married women either if that was what we were looking for. We don't like the fact they might only get out for an hour when they are meant to be walking the dog, we don't like the fact they may be clock watching , We don't really care what married people do with their lives, but we didn't want to be the people who caused a lot of hurt if a wife found out. So we do try and stick with single men. I say try because we did get our fingers burnt once by a man who said he was single, acted single, stayed over for fun, could get away at short notice etc etc, but it turned out he had a partner who he lived with and who messaged us one day to let us know. Now I know I just said it is their conscience they have to live with if they get caught, but our conscience took a battering that day even though we had done all the checks we thought of to accept he was telling the truth and he was single. | |||
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"proves my point!!! its my life and i made that choice!! Kitty we have had our run ins in the past, but would never dream of attacking u for the way u live your life" Actually, Kitty has a very valid point. How can any cheater state that they are honest and respectful when they are downright dishonest and disrespecting the person they took vows to love, honour and cherish? | |||
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"'forsake all others' are vows that married swingers probably made! Regardless of them agreeing to swing as a joint decision, that part of the vow is still broken!" I never said the words, 'forsaking all others.' We wrote our own vows. Regardless of that fact..... Yes.....we choose to break that vow but we swing as a couple, are honest and trustworthy in our relationships. You can't justify cheating by stooping so low as to make us out to be the ones who are going against our vows. Piousness and hypocrisy from cheaters is almost as unattractive a trait as dishonesty! Technically, married couples who swing are breaking their vows, however, cheaters are breaking a moral, ethical and social vow by doing it behind their partners back. Far better that swinging is between consenting adults, who believe in trust and honesty, than between those who's moral and ethical codes stick two fingers up to their partners, their friends and the world. | |||
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"I am married and no my other half doesn't know ! I have been honest on my profile and said this, have not pretended to be single..... Why is it that most of the ladies and lots of couples won't entertain the idea of playing with a married man , however they are more than happy to play with a married female in the same situation ?? what happened to sexualequality !!!lol G" Like the others said, I also can't see where it says you are married in your profile. If the said person was married or just courting we wouldn't meet him/her, nothing to do with the vows the said person took with there partner but simply because we think its cheating there partner and wrong. How we see it, is we would find it heartbreaking if I found shaz was cheating - or Shaz found I was cheating, so we wouldn't want to be part of bringing that pain onto someone else. And, for us anyway (note i said for us) if we had a problem where we felt the need to cheat on each other, we would talk about it together, if we couldn't solve it then we would seek help from a professional, and if they couldn't help it then we would find it alot fairer to call it a day rather than cheat. Thats just us though Tony | |||
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"There is nothing I can come back with, but..... I want sex, but don't wanna leave my hubby and he doesn't want me to leave. Simple as that!" to me that's a very fair point as my reasons are similar but I am afraid that you will always get a bit of stick on here because you do not fit into the same slot as the majority of members on here. I know I have had a few comments and such but I don't really let it get to me . The one thing in your favour is that you are female and so will not really go without as there are lots of horny guy's on here that will readily jump at the chance to get to know you so don't take peoples negative comments to much to heart I will prolly get a little more flak from this posting as I have before but hay that's life hehehehehehehe!!!!! best of luck in your search. | |||
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"There is nothing I can come back with, but..... I want sex, but don't wanna leave my hubby and he doesn't want me to leave. Simple as that! to me that's a very fair point as my reasons are similar " fair point???? to who? the hubby she is cheating on?? i am sure her hubby wont say thats a fair point LMAO | |||
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"There is nothing I can come back with, but..... I want sex, but don't wanna leave my hubby and he doesn't want me to leave. Simple as that! to me that's a very fair point as my reasons are similar fair point???? to who? the hubby she is cheating on?? i am sure her hubby wont say thats a fair point LMAO" Maybe he would maybe he would not but to slate someone who is making her/his own decisions in life without really knowing them in my eyes is wrong also. He would have to be really green not to realise that his wife/partner has feelings and needs too and if he cannot will not provide for those needs for whatever reason then even if she loves him it will happen in the end. The only thing I would say is better to keep it quiet and all behind closed doors than to be seen out by friends or people who know you both. And yes I have been on the receiving end of a partner that has enjoyed extra activities without my knowledge LoL but at least they had the good manners to keep it quiet and not go out on the town showing off. On Another note I have yet to meet a woman who in the past has been cheated on that will accept that at least part of what happened was her said because she in some way was neglecting her man or trying to make all of the rules, and reading some of the responses in these forums it seems to be a case of woman power and men will do what they are told LoL. Now that I have lit the touch paper I will stand back and watch the fireworks hehehehehehehe!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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"yea big man, you have the balls to front it out behind a computer screen and put your views accross but you aint got the balls tell your wife you have no respect for her and are fucking behind her back. now thats what i call a real man!" ;) | |||
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" On Another note I have yet to meet a woman who in the past has been cheated on that will accept that at least part of what happened was her said because she in some way was neglecting her man or trying to make all of the rules, and reading some of the responses in these forums it seems to be a case of woman power and men will do what they are told LoL. " I have an answer typed out for that.... Do you know what? That kind of drivel doesn't even deserve an answer. If you have to justify YOUR cheating by blaming YOUR wife....... then you are with the wrong wife. | |||
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"proves my point!!! its my life and i made that choice!! Kitty we have had our run ins in the past, but would never dream of attacking u for the way u live your life now now, u stated about respect and stuff and i just wondered why the only person u are disrespecting is the person who you made vows to. what makes her less important for u to cheat on and disrespect but u speak onpenly about respecting people on a swingers site. its not an attack its a quiestion" call me stupid but wheres the question in that???? | |||
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"proves my point!!! its my life and i made that choice!! what about your wifes choice? she made vows with you vows to be faithful. the only choice u made was to marry your wife then you choose to ignore your vows so your not very good at makeing choices are you?" and u have never made a wrong choice in your life??? yes i made the decision to cheat! | |||
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"yea big man, you have the balls to front it out behind a computer screen and put your views accross but you aint got the balls tell your wife you have no respect for her and are fucking behind her back. now thats what i call a real man!" The number of guys I have had message me and "been honest" up front and told me they are married. I've said Thanks but no thanks - not interested in married guys. But can we still chat??? FFS!!! Ask your wife..... Go Kitty!!!!! | |||
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