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By *adybee77 OP   Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)

masturbate?

After a comment on another thread about being a serial masturbater... I just wondered how often everyone else does.

Today has been 4 times, and I'll likely play again at bedtime. I'm usually around 6 - 8 times a day but today was busy...

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

Fuck sake!... That lost unproductive hours!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really, really rarely. Haven't yet at all this year.

I'd rather just meet up with one of my regular FBs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Alone never,with or for a man a few times a year maybe

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By *adybee77 OP   Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)

Ok, I now feel like a complete weirdo... I have a very high sex drive... I honestly get grouchy if I don't have some form of relief.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"masturbate?

After a comment on another thread about being a serial masturbater... I just wondered how often everyone else does.

Today has been 4 times, and I'll likely play again at bedtime. I'm usually around 6 - 8 times a day but today was busy... "

I hope my comment didn't cause you any offense. It was only meant to be a light-hearted joke. I do apologise.

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By *adybee77 OP   Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)


"masturbate?

After a comment on another thread about being a serial masturbater... I just wondered how often everyone else does.

Today has been 4 times, and I'll likely play again at bedtime. I'm usually around 6 - 8 times a day but today was busy...

I hope my comment didn't cause you any offense. It was only meant to be a light-hearted joke. I do apologise."

Not offended but it did make me wonder...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"masturbate?

After a comment on another thread about being a serial masturbater... I just wondered how often everyone else does.

Today has been 4 times, and I'll likely play again at bedtime. I'm usually around 6 - 8 times a day but today was busy...

I hope my comment didn't cause you any offense. It was only meant to be a light-hearted joke. I do apologise.

Not offended but it did make me wonder..."

I'm glad. It really doesn't make you a weirdo at all. Frankly, I'd be doing it that often if I had the energy to do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am just wanking once a day, usually about 1am as I am going to bed, it helps you too sleep better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The more sex I get the more I do it.

Not. Getting. Any. Right. Now.

Pfffft

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By *adybee77 OP   Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)


"The more sex I get the more I do it.

Not. Getting. Any. Right. Now.

Pfffft "

I know that feeling... but roll on next week... 150 miles drive, and it'll be catch up time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"masturbate?

After a comment on another thread about being a serial masturbater... I just wondered how often everyone else does.

Today has been 4 times, and I'll likely play again at bedtime. I'm usually around 6 - 8 times a day but today was busy... "
beautiful lady

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2 or 3 times a day here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tend to go through phases, most days it's a couple of times, but there have been a lot of days where it's been 4 or 5 for a while. I'm on a drive to reduce It as I think it's a bit addictive and got out of hand (oops!, no pun intended there honestly, lol) and I don't get much work done.

I'm hoping I can restrict cummming to when I'm with women or couples.....if I can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the very least twice a day....puts a smile on my face first thing and helps me fall asleep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Far too much than is good for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

when ever we want lol that's our answer nothing to be ashamed of

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"when ever we want lol that's our answer nothing to be ashamed of

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By *yLittleMushroomIndeedMan
over a year ago

Lowestoft

every 2 to 3 days, but only once this year with someone, really need some more fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out of interest, for those that masturbate regularly, is it habit/routine driven? (Ie oooh I fancy a good orgasm induced dopamine hit lets have a play). Or more situational driven? (Ie oooh this film/book/fab forum chat/postmans's hot and got me feeling horny lets have a play). Or are you just damn horny all the time regardless? (Ie oooh I'm awake lets have a play)

For me its the situational driven....if its a Saturday and I'm having a staying in reading Jilly Cooper kind of day that gets me feeling frisky and D's not around then A LOT...but unless something tickles my fancy not at all.

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By *adybee77 OP   Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)


"Out of interest, for those that masturbate regularly, is it habit/routine driven? (Ie oooh I fancy a good orgasm induced dopamine hit lets have a play). Or more situational driven? (Ie oooh this film/book/fab forum chat/postmans's hot and got me feeling horny lets have a play). Or are you just damn horny all the time regardless? (Ie oooh I'm awake lets have a play)

For me its the situational driven....if its a Saturday and I'm having a staying in reading Jilly Cooper kind of day that gets me feeling frisky and D's not around then A LOT...but unless something tickles my fancy not at all. "

Most of the time, I'm just damn horny. Some of the time its situational, and other times its directly related to my current lover - texts, images, phone calls (we're 150 miles apart)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Out of interest, for those that masturbate regularly, is it habit/routine driven? (Ie oooh I fancy a good orgasm induced dopamine hit lets have a play). Or more situational driven? (Ie oooh this film/book/fab forum chat/postmans's hot and got me feeling horny lets have a play). Or are you just damn horny all the time regardless? (Ie oooh I'm awake lets have a play)

For me its the situational driven....if its a Saturday and I'm having a staying in reading Jilly Cooper kind of day that gets me feeling frisky and D's not around then A LOT...but unless something tickles my fancy not at all. "

for me it's habit! plus my work colleague is hot hot hot!

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By *ordic36Man
over a year ago

Manchester


"The more sex I get the more I do it.

Not. Getting. Any. Right. Now.

Pfffft "

You're kidding, right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Out of interest, for those that masturbate regularly, is it habit/routine driven? (Ie oooh I fancy a good orgasm induced dopamine hit lets have a play). Or more situational driven? (Ie oooh this film/book/fab forum chat/postmans's hot and got me feeling horny lets have a play). Or are you just damn horny all the time regardless? (Ie oooh I'm awake lets have a play)

For me its the situational driven....if its a Saturday and I'm having a staying in reading Jilly Cooper kind of day that gets me feeling frisky and D's not around then A LOT...but unless something tickles my fancy not at all.

Most of the time, I'm just damn horny. Some of the time its situational, and other times its directly related to my current lover - texts, images, phone calls (we're 150 miles apart) "

Ahh yeah, I must admit having naughty text conversations all day can have me squirming! I say lucky you...sure there must be health benefits to multiple daily orgasms lol.

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By *adybee77 OP   Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)


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Ahh yeah, I must admit having naughty text conversations all day can have me squirming! I say lucky you...sure there must be health benefits to multiple daily orgasms lol."

Not sure about health benefits - but it sure makes me smiley

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Ahh yeah, I must admit having naughty text conversations all day can have me squirming! I say lucky you...sure there must be health benefits to multiple daily orgasms lol.

Not sure about health benefits - but it sure makes me smiley "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The more sex I get the more I do it.

Not. Getting. Any. Right. Now.

Pfffft

You're kidding, right?"

Nope. Not kidding. Only wish I was!

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By *reedy_for_funCouple
over a year ago

My House

Couple of times a week if I'm lucky.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fuck sake!... That lost unproductive hours!

"

And many Duracell batteries

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As and when I need - as with most people.....its a release

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok, I now feel like a complete weirdo... I have a very high sex drive... I honestly get grouchy if I don't have some form of relief. "

No your not I am the same as you.

I gave a very high sex drive. I am horny before sex and even worse after sex. Andy can bang the shit out of me for an hour and within 10 mins got my wand out x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mostly oncea day in shower might miss a day every now and then few days to make orgasm more intense or if know iam having sex soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At least twice a day, if I'm horny then a couple more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I was with my ex we never had sex, so it was 3 or 4 times a day. Now we are getting it regular I havent got time to masturbate!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I'm getting no sex 6 times a day, can be more. Its can be someone perfume that can set me off and I can't forcus until I've had a little play !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At least once a day or twice if I am off.

Lol better than going to the gym

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

We both openly masturbates most days mid morning it,s up to the other one to join in i will get a suck and wank on Jane,s boob,s she will get a nice licking and finishers with her rabbit. Then shower out for a couple of hour,s back home might have full sex it,s so hard being retired enjoying our selves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"masturbate?

After a comment on another thread about being a serial masturbater... I just wondered how often everyone else does.

Today has been 4 times, and I'll likely play again at bedtime. I'm usually around 6 - 8 times a day but today was busy... "

Would love to come and watch . I tend to wank once everyother day at the minute. Sometimes can be couple of times a day too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The more sex I get the more I do it.

Not. Getting. Any. Right. Now.

Pfffft

You're kidding, right?

Nope. Not kidding. Only wish I was! "

This is criminal

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

Since becoming pregnant i cant seem to keep my hands off myself im at it every chance i get unless the OH is home to put his hands on me instead, unfortunately he works away a lot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Four times on Saturday, but usually it's once or twice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2/3 times a day. If I've a day off with nothing to do the number definitely rises. I'm always horny haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wen i was 17 id play 10 to 15 a day was sooo bad specially for a girl id even play in toilets out shopin xxt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now obly about 5 times a week sex most nights lol x

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By *aith boyMan
over a year ago

Worthing


"Wen i was 17 id play 10 to 15 a day was sooo bad specially for a girl id even play in toilets out shopin xxt"

wow !!... sooo horny to kwno that you do this in the public toilets!!.. i was always doing that when i was younger reading the stories.. i wanked at least 3 times a day from when i started.. now when ever im in here....

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Ok, I now feel like a complete weirdo... I have a very high sex drive... I honestly get grouchy if I don't have some form of relief. "

No need for anyone to feel like a weirdo because their sex drive is different to another persons

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By *adybee77 OP   Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)


"Ok, I now feel like a complete weirdo... I have a very high sex drive... I honestly get grouchy if I don't have some form of relief.

No need for anyone to feel like a weirdo because their sex drive is different to another persons "

Thanks

Oh and for everyone who feels the need to PM, its ok - you can reply on the post

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By *he_batmanMan
over a year ago

Gotham


"masturbate?

After a comment on another thread about being a serial masturbater... I just wondered how often everyone else does.

Today has been 4 times, and I'll likely play again at bedtime. I'm usually around 6 - 8 times a day but today was busy... "

Daily at least once. Can't help it sometimes a wank is more satisfying than sex lol xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wen i was 17 id play 10 to 15 a day was sooo bad specially for a girl id even play in toilets out shopin xxt

wow !!... sooo horny to kwno that you do this in the public toilets!!.. i was always doing that when i was younger reading the stories.. i wanked at least 3 times a day from when i started.. now when ever im in here...."
lol yh iv always had a high sex drive but oddly iv had guys break up with me cos i get grumpy if i go a few days lol x

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By *ivilizedkinkCouple
over a year ago

harrow

It depends on how horny im feeling anything from once to six times a day or if the other half is around to help me out lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Once a day would be average for me. If I have a lazy day with the house to myself then probably more, if I have to be at work really early then probably not at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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No need for anyone to feel like a weirdo because their sex drive is different to another persons "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Normally twice a day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not often enough though sharing is more fun

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Every couple of days but I don't wank for a few days before a meet. I like to be able to offer several full loads.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1 - 2 times a day.

X

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Once a day if I don't need to be at work early. More if I'm not at work at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every couple of days but I don't wank for a few days before a meet. I like to be able to offer several full loads. "

I try to stick to the same tactic, but usually fail miserably. I have little-to-no willpower.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A bit too much lately. But, that's only because i like to empty myself and have found myself all alone lol

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By *jeibm2012Man
over a year ago

manchester nr piccadilly

Daily on average I'd say. I'd prefer to wank less and have sex more often, but I don't deprive myself of that warm trembly feeling just cos I'm alone :D

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains


"masturbate?

After a comment on another thread about being a serial masturbater... I just wondered how often everyone else does.

Today has been 4 times, and I'll likely play again at bedtime. I'm usually around 6 - 8 times a day but today was busy... "

How do you fit all that in? I wouldn't have time I'm usually once or twice a week at most!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your are not at all weird. I have to masturbate when I'm bored. That can be at work sometimes, when I like the look of the woman I'm working for, I go off and have a wank, in HER house.

Now that's weird.

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By *adybee77 OP   Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)


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How do you fit all that in? I wouldn't have time I'm usually once or twice a week at most!"

I only work part time - and its mainly evenings, so when my son is at school.

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By *rtemisiaWoman
over a year ago

Norwich


"masturbate?

After a comment on another thread about being a serial masturbater... I just wondered how often everyone else does.

Today has been 4 times, and I'll likely play again at bedtime. I'm usually around 6 - 8 times a day but today was busy... "

Usually once a day but four times on Saturday!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wonders whether some would fit into the sex addict category ?

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By *adybee77 OP   Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)


"Wonders whether some would fit into the sex addict category ? "

Why a sex addict? I can go without - I just prefer not to. Its not getting in the way of my every day life, and I am happy.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Everyday. How often depends how I'm feeling but always before I fall asleep. I enjoy masterbating in front of my fb to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wonders whether some would fit into the sex addict category ?

Why a sex addict? I can go without - I just prefer not to. Its not getting in the way of my every day life, and I am happy."

Googles AA - most common excuse given lol

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By *adybee77 OP   Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)


"Wonders whether some would fit into the sex addict category ?

Why a sex addict? I can go without - I just prefer not to. Its not getting in the way of my every day life, and I am happy.

Googles AA - most common excuse given lol"

Always nice to talk to someone so non-judgemental on fab, thank you for that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok, I now feel like a complete weirdo... I have a very high sex drive... I honestly get grouchy if I don't have some form of relief. "

I'm the same lol, you're not a weirdo :p I'm terrible while the Mr is at work

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

The Wild Wetness

Well I'm a bit of a wanker too. But it tends to be more a night time fixture for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wonders whether some would fit into the sex addict category ?

Why a sex addict? I can go without - I just prefer not to. Its not getting in the way of my every day life, and I am happy.

Googles AA - most common excuse given lol

Always nice to talk to someone so non-judgemental on fab, thank you for that. "

And those non touchy people with a sense of humour lol

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By *omtdhMan
over a year ago

IOM

Masturbation is a natural form of self-satisfaction but as said earlier, it is better to share. I masturbate daily, but sometimes until I can’t take anymore then have a rest. Especially when I feel like a Monk… well we all have our dirty habits. It’s a wonderful experience. Keep up the good work! lol xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought I had some kind of addiction.... Looks like I'm safe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"masturbate?

After a comment on another thread about being a serial masturbater... I just wondered how often everyone else does.

Today has been 4 times, and I'll likely play again at bedtime. I'm usually around 6 - 8 times a day but today was busy... "

That's perfectly normal to me. If I'm not getting sex from meets, I usually knock at least one out a day. If not two. Three if I've got a day off to myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

About 5 times a day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I .honestly can't remember the last time I did it, it's been a very long Time,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The more sex I get the more I do it.

Not. Getting. Any. Right. Now.

Pfffft

You're kidding, right?

Nope. Not kidding. Only wish I was! "

Bumblebee how are you not getting enough at the moment. Your inbox must be bursting xxx

Anyway I try not to master ate and save myself but that is easily broken and has been onany occasions, especially reading some of these threads x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not as much as I used to,

It's been over 2 weeks since I last had one,

I prefer to watch porn having a little play but stopping before I cum, I like the visual/mental effect as well as the physical

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By *ordic36Man
over a year ago

Manchester


"The more sex I get the more I do it.

Not. Getting. Any. Right. Now.

Pfffft

You're kidding, right?

Nope. Not kidding. Only wish I was! "
It doesnt compute. You are woman in her prime and you do not get any? You are swinger and you dont get any? Youre the bi female..the mythical unicorn everyone wants to have, and youre on fab and you dont get any? And you do not live on deserted island either. It makes no sense. Im missing something very important here.

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By *adybee77 OP   Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)


"The more sex I get the more I do it.

Not. Getting. Any. Right. Now.

Pfffft

You're kidding, right?

Nope. Not kidding. Only wish I was! It doesnt compute. You are woman in her prime and you do not get any? You are swinger and you dont get any? Youre the bi female..the mythical unicorn everyone wants to have, and youre on fab and you dont get any? And you do not live on deserted island either. It makes no sense. Im missing something very important here. "

So because a female is on here, she must be getting banged like a barn door in a gale? Ever thought there is nothing on here that appeals? I very rarely meet via fab - nothing to do with geography and everything to do with self respect, and not just meeting for the sake of it.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

The Wild Wetness


"The more sex I get the more I do it.

Not. Getting. Any. Right. Now.

Pfffft

You're kidding, right?

Nope. Not kidding. Only wish I was! It doesnt compute. You are woman in her prime and you do not get any? You are swinger and you dont get any? Youre the bi female..the mythical unicorn everyone wants to have, and youre on fab and you dont get any? And you do not live on deserted island either. It makes no sense. Im missing something very important here.

So because a female is on here, she must be getting banged like a barn door in a gale? Ever thought there is nothing on here that appeals? I very rarely meet via fab - nothing to do with geography and everything to do with self respect, and not just meeting for the sake of it."

Should I read into that. That those who do meet via fab and get banged like a barn door have no self respect.

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By *adybee77 OP   Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)


"The more sex I get the more I do it.

Not. Getting. Any. Right. Now.

Pfffft

You're kidding, right?

Nope. Not kidding. Only wish I was! It doesnt compute. You are woman in her prime and you do not get any? You are swinger and you dont get any? Youre the bi female..the mythical unicorn everyone wants to have, and youre on fab and you dont get any? And you do not live on deserted island either. It makes no sense. Im missing something very important here.

So because a female is on here, she must be getting banged like a barn door in a gale? Ever thought there is nothing on here that appeals? I very rarely meet via fab - nothing to do with geography and everything to do with self respect, and not just meeting for the sake of it.

Should I read into that. That those who do meet via fab and get banged like a barn door have no self respect."

Nope just means they are finding people that appeal to them. I have no doubt busier couples and people still have self respect, it was about meeting people who don't suit my requirements not about numbers.

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By *ordic36Man
over a year ago

Manchester


"The more sex I get the more I do it.

Not. Getting. Any. Right. Now.

Pfffft

You're kidding, right?

Nope. Not kidding. Only wish I was! It doesnt compute. You are woman in her prime and you do not get any? You are swinger and you dont get any? Youre the bi female..the mythical unicorn everyone wants to have, and youre on fab and you dont get any? And you do not live on deserted island either. It makes no sense. Im missing something very important here.

So because a female is on here, she must be getting banged like a barn door in a gale? Ever thought there is nothing on here that appeals? I very rarely meet via fab - nothing to do with geography and everything to do with self respect, and not just meeting for the sake of it."
Easy easy. You dont have to bite someones head off just because he asked a question.

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By *adybee77 OP   Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)


"The more sex I get the more I do it.

Not. Getting. Any. Right. Now.

Pfffft

You're kidding, right?

Nope. Not kidding. Only wish I was! It doesnt compute. You are woman in her prime and you do not get any? You are swinger and you dont get any? Youre the bi female..the mythical unicorn everyone wants to have, and youre on fab and you dont get any? And you do not live on deserted island either. It makes no sense. Im missing something very important here.

So because a female is on here, she must be getting banged like a barn door in a gale? Ever thought there is nothing on here that appeals? I very rarely meet via fab - nothing to do with geography and everything to do with self respect, and not just meeting for the sake of it. Easy easy. You dont have to bite someones head off just because he asked a question."

That really was not biting your head off - that was just a reply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Three or four times a day

Keeps the muscles nice n tight

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By *bandAbCouple
over a year ago

lanarkshire.

Usually twice a day depends on mood

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains


"

How do you fit all that in? I wouldn't have time I'm usually once or twice a week at most!

I only work part time - and its mainly evenings, so when my son is at school. "

Oh that's fair enough, if I ever get time off work and don't have studying to do, I can spend hours in bed having a play

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

3 times today so far, feeling horny at work ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thought I had some kind of addiction.... Looks like I'm safe "
Me too

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"Really, really rarely. Haven't yet at all this year.

I'd rather just meet up with one of my regular FBs."

The same goes for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Loads

I only have sex every couple of months or so so I wank a hell of a lot

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

The Wild Wetness


"

So because a female is on here, she must be getting banged like a barn door in a gale? Ever thought there is nothing on here that appeals? I very rarely meet via fab - nothing to do with geography and everything to do with self respect, and not just meeting for the sake of it.

Should I read into that. That those who do meet via fab and get banged like a barn door have no self respect.

Nope just means they are finding people that appeal to them. I have no doubt busier couples and people still have self respect, it was about meeting people who don't suit my requirements not about numbers."

I was just teasing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends how how horny I am... So far today, once!

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"Three or four times a day

Keeps the muscles nice n tight "

Oh that's a great excuse.....not that I need one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tend to find myself logging into the cam rooms on here, sticking my cam on and wanking for hours and hours, but not letting myself cum. can get so so horny when your just desperate to cum. am i on my own here?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wanking is good for the heart I heard

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