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"not much difference surely in a mmff to a ffm,aslong as both guys are cool and the girls are bi/curious" ffm ffmm??? Yep, there's definitely a difference lol | |||
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"not much difference surely in a mmff to a ffm,aslong as both guys are cool and the girls are bi/curious ffm ffmm??? Yep, there's definitely a difference lol " lol....get out of it,ya know what i mean lol | |||
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"not much difference surely in a mmff to a ffm,aslong as both guys are cool and the girls are bi/curious ffm ffmm??? Yep, there's definitely a difference lol lol....get out of it,ya know what i mean lol" It's only one little letter I s'pose | |||
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"also your profile doesnt read like the fem half of the couple is really that interested as it cones across as being written by the male half Maybe thats just me but its how i percieve it and its no.fun for a bi fem playing with a woman thats doing it just to please her man. " | |||
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"not much difference surely in a mmff to a ffm,aslong as both guys are cool and the girls are bi/curious ffm ffmm??? Yep, there's definitely a difference lol lol....get out of it,ya know what i mean lol It's only one little letter I s'pose " exactly | |||
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"Every thread like this always ends up the same, with the same complaints. It's all so unremittingly negative. Perhaps there should be a thread celebrating those couples and single bi females on Fab who somehow manage to do the seemingly impossible - meet each other succesfully, and have a great time with all three playing together! No FF displays for the fellas, no performing seals, no pillow princesses pretending to be bi to fulfil a fantasy, just sexy people having filthy fun all round. " Hear hear I'd contribute to a thread like that | |||
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"met one lovely girl on a previous profile - and she did not want any male participation (which we were fine with). To be brutally honest, though, have given up looking on Fab for this now - just really don't seem to be many genuine girls about who actually MEET rather than just chat. That's just our experience - and we are definitely not rude or pushy when corresponding" I'm feeling the same | |||
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"I meet couples but all those I have engaged with have treated me as an equal part of the fun with my own needs or desires that they would like to fulfil as well as I theirs. Sadly many couples asume they have to do very little leg work and often have profile that demand more than they are prepared to give. Many also forget the safety aspect that us single girls have to consider. As much as I would love yo meet couples more often it is hard to find couole profiles that are bi female friendly, have public pics of both sides of the couple who are also willing to develop a connection with you. X" | |||
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"As a bi fem really wanting to meet..., i feel like im usually mailed with the view to be there to put on a girly show for the dude. Which is an instant turn off..., im a person not a source of entertainment or a plaything for a couple. Unfortunately these type of msgs r becoming more frequent. 'Its my mans birthday soon and his ultimate fantasy is to watch me with a girl, i want to arrange summit special, u up for it?' Ehhhhh , no. " Know what you mean x | |||
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"Every thread like this always ends up the same, with the same complaints. It's all so unremittingly negative. Perhaps there should be a thread celebrating those couples and single bi females on Fab who somehow manage to do the seemingly impossible - meet each other succesfully, and have a great time with all three playing together! No FF displays for the fellas, no performing seals, no pillow princesses pretending to be bi to fulfil a fantasy, just sexy people having filthy fun all round. " ^^ Also this. | |||
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"It seems to me that most women on here are bi or curious " So are modt men!! | |||
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"The biggest challenge most couples seem to overlook is that its about mutual attraction so she needs to find you both attractive first. Plus you generally most bi females feel safe playing at swinging clubs only." This. Totally my thoughts.. I would rather meet couples at a club, I just feel comfortable doing that and have expressed this to couples who were interested in me. My first veri was from a couple and I still enjoy playing with them. I even had fun with them and another two couples at a club | |||
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"As a bi fem really wanting to meet..., i feel like im usually mailed with the view to be there to put on a girly show for the dude. Which is an instant turn off..., im a person not a source of entertainment or a plaything for a couple. Unfortunately these type of msgs r becoming more frequent. 'Its my mans birthday soon and his ultimate fantasy is to watch me with a girl, i want to arrange summit special, u up for it?' Ehhhhh , no. " I can see were your coming from but for us thats not the case. I really am 100% bi. I love girl on girl play but I love my husband too and will not play unless he is at least there to watch or I would feel I was cheating on him. He has never been that into girl on girl he doesnt watch lesbian porn at all so its not his request to watch me and a lady its something I want/need but I just cant do it alone it would feel wrong and I wouldnt enjoy it | |||
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"As a bi fem really wanting to meet..., i feel like im usually mailed with the view to be there to put on a girly show for the dude. Which is an instant turn off..., im a person not a source of entertainment or a plaything for a couple. Unfortunately these type of msgs r becoming more frequent. 'Its my mans birthday soon and his ultimate fantasy is to watch me with a girl, i want to arrange summit special, u up for it?' Ehhhhh , no. I can see were your coming from but for us thats not the case. I really am 100% bi. I love girl on girl play but I love my husband too and will not play unless he is at least there to watch or I would feel I was cheating on him. He has never been that into girl on girl he doesnt watch lesbian porn at all so its not his request to watch me and a lady its something I want/need but I just cant do it alone it would feel wrong and I wouldnt enjoy it " I'm convinced. I totally understand what you're saying and respect that. You also seem to understand why it might be difficult finding someone. Good luck. x | |||
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"As a bi fem really wanting to meet..., i feel like im usually mailed with the view to be there to put on a girly show for the dude. Which is an instant turn off..., im a person not a source of entertainment or a plaything for a couple. Unfortunately these type of msgs r becoming more frequent. 'Its my mans birthday soon and his ultimate fantasy is to watch me with a girl, i want to arrange summit special, u up for it?' Ehhhhh , no. I can see were your coming from but for us thats not the case. I really am 100% bi. I love girl on girl play but I love my husband too and will not play unless he is at least there to watch or I would feel I was cheating on him. He has never been that into girl on girl he doesnt watch lesbian porn at all so its not his request to watch me and a lady its something I want/need but I just cant do it alone it would feel wrong and I wouldnt enjoy it I'm convinced. I totally understand what you're saying and respect that. You also seem to understand why it might be difficult finding someone. Good luck. x" Totally understand. I did try once and went out to meet a bi friend. We played a little but the guilt was too much even though I had his full permission. Its bad enough that he wont play on our meets but having him there filming or taking pics and enjoying the vids together afterwards makes me feel he is part of it all. But taking him completely out of it just kills it for me. So if that means its never going to happen so be it | |||
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" I can see were your coming from but for us thats not the case. I really am 100% bi. I love girl on girl play but I love my husband too and will not play unless he is at least there to watch or I would feel I was cheating on him. He has never been that into girl on girl he doesnt watch lesbian porn at all so its not his request to watch me and a lady its something I want/need but I just cant do it alone it would feel wrong and I wouldnt enjoy it " You see, for me personally I'm not interested in playing with people who think that playing alone with their partners knowledge is 'cheating'. It's just not what I personally want (I don't think it's bad, just no space for it in my life) and you may find that many other pretty open bi women are the same. If I was to meet a couple, and we got on really well, I'd like the opportunity to perhaps meet them in the future one on one AND together. Because you always like one half of the couple more, it's just human nature. | |||
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" I can see were your coming from but for us thats not the case. I really am 100% bi. I love girl on girl play but I love my husband too and will not play unless he is at least there to watch or I would feel I was cheating on him. He has never been that into girl on girl he doesnt watch lesbian porn at all so its not his request to watch me and a lady its something I want/need but I just cant do it alone it would feel wrong and I wouldnt enjoy it You see, for me personally I'm not interested in playing with people who think that playing alone with their partners knowledge is 'cheating'. It's just not what I personally want (I don't think it's bad, just no space for it in my life) and you may find that many other pretty open bi women are the same. If I was to meet a couple, and we got on really well, I'd like the opportunity to perhaps meet them in the future one on one AND together. Because you always like one half of the couple more, it's just human nature." We are very much in this together. Although he never plays we never I never play without him. So like I said if that means its never going to happen so be it I can live with that. I dont think its massively important that they like him or find him attractive because he doesnt play at all but I get that the playmate/s need to be comfortable with him being in the room. So I think we differ a bit from couples who both play because then you would need the attraction to both. One lady did say she would need attraction to him to despite him not playing. I didnt argue it with her but did find that strange. We had a couple like us come where there male just wanted to watch so I didnt care what he looked like as once I got going I forgot he was there but each person has their own needs and rules its what makes us all unique | |||
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"While FFM has an appeal, I would just like to meet a girl I can have fun alone with. It seems a lot of the couples profiles with bi girls won't meet alone or want some involvement from their guy. However I will not be it off and my search goes on Nat x " I'm not near you, but I don't meet singles from a couples profile, so if you want single ladies to meet, set up a single profile with filters set for ladies only. | |||
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"While FFM has an appeal, I would just like to meet a girl I can have fun alone with. It seems a lot of the couples profiles with bi girls won't meet alone or want some involvement from their guy. However I will not be it off and my search goes on Nat x I'm not near you, but I don't meet singles from a couples profile, so if you want single ladies to meet, set up a single profile with filters set for ladies only." Good advice. Thank you x | |||
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" We are very much in this together. Although he never plays we never I never play without him. So like I said if that means its never going to happen so be it I can live with that. I dont think its massively important that they like him or find him attractive because he doesnt play at all but I get that the playmate/s need to be comfortable with him being in the room. So I think we differ a bit from couples who both play because then you would need the attraction to both. " I think most women will just feel like a performing monkey with him in the room JUST watching. I'd be about a hundred times more willing to be involved with a couple who both wanted sex, but don't think I'd ever actually have a ff with a guy just watching. | |||
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" We are very much in this together. Although he never plays we never I never play without him. So like I said if that means its never going to happen so be it I can live with that. I dont think its massively important that they like him or find him attractive because he doesnt play at all but I get that the playmate/s need to be comfortable with him being in the room. So I think we differ a bit from couples who both play because then you would need the attraction to both. I think most women will just feel like a performing monkey with him in the room JUST watching. I'd be about a hundred times more willing to be involved with a couple who both wanted sex, but don't think I'd ever actually have a ff with a guy just watching." This for me too, I've turned down couples where he would only watch or only play with the female of the couple. | |||
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"I do understand that so Im well aware it may never happen. We've had couples were the wife will play with me while the hubby watches along with him thats fine by me. But him not being there just isnt gonna happen by my choice regardless of how that effects our chances." I used to really hate the idea of a guy just watching, performing seal type thing. But I now think it could work with the right people. Either 2 couples meeting and the guys just watching or MMF. Not sure what changed my mind but I think your (both of you) posts may have helped me see it differently. So thank you. | |||
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"One thing that we've noticed is that there is often the perception that the two women in an FFM are expected to perform for the man. What about the M and single bi F performing together for the fem of the couple? " I would enjoy that potentially. I've never been asked to do that though in all my years as a unicorn... | |||
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"One thing that we've noticed is that there is often the perception that the two women in an FFM are expected to perform for the man. What about the M and single bi F performing together for the fem of the couple? When we play with a single bi female it's all about equal sharing amongst the three of us, but it often starts with C, the fem, playing the voyeur. Don't people enjoy that?" You have a point. Where there are voyeurs and exhibitionists then these activities must/could be enjoyable Where, like myself who is neither an exhibitionist (apart from displaying photographs on my profile) or a voyeur, meeting a couple would only be for one reason; to have sex with both at the same time | |||
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"While FFM has an appeal, I would just like to meet a girl I can have fun alone with. It seems a lot of the couples profiles with bi girls won't meet alone or want some involvement from their guy. However I will not be it off and my search goes on Nat x I'm not near you, but I don't meet singles from a couples profile, so if you want single ladies to meet, set up a single profile with filters set for ladies only. Good advice. Thank you x " And i you do create a single's profile...i'd like to hear from you | |||
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"One thing that we've noticed is that there is often the perception that the two women in an FFM are expected to perform for the man. What about the M and single bi F performing together for the fem of the couple? When we play with a single bi female it's all about equal sharing amongst the three of us, but it often starts with C, the fem, playing the voyeur. Don't people enjoy that? You have a point. Where there are voyeurs and exhibitionists then these activities must/could be enjoyable Where, like myself who is neither an exhibitionist (apart from displaying photographs on my profile) or a voyeur, meeting a couple would only be for one reason; to have sex with both at the same time" Yes...but then it's self evident that people who don't like a thing won't like a thing. What is interesting is that where there is a voyeuristic element in FFM play, to whatever degree, it seems always accepted here that will comprise of the two fems for the male gaze, whereas in our experience, it has been a man and a woman for the female gaze. That hasn't prevented all three playing together, of course. It's lovely to mix these things up. | |||
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