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"That's up to yourself but unless its reciprocated I'd question what kind of person was making the demands. On the face of it it sounds very materialistic and like they're saying "I'm so special and fantastic that you must make tributes" " Yes maybe they do but cant blame them for trying and some men don't mind so its ok. | |||
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"I had a lady text me just as I was leaving home to drive to her house for a meet...... She asked me to stop off at a cash-point as she needed "to borrow £90 to pay her car tax"!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300." Why would you buy condoms? If a guy doesn't turn up with them, he doesn't get to play, end of | |||
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"if you are daft enough, SOME people will take them." quick change there ![]() | |||
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"I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300. Why would you buy condoms? If a guy doesn't turn up with them, he doesn't get to play, end of" Because I've got a latex allergy and can't risk somebody using a latex one. And I'm dead horny. If he doesn't have one and I really want to I do. Simples. Also I only really meet married men who don't want to be discovered by having condoms on them or at home. | |||
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"I wish I could expand on some of the profiles, but one basically labels a lot of people on the site as being 'cheapskates', with a note that 'if you think you can just roll up for a play, empty handed, (you should) forget it'. Just found that very odd! ![]() At least they have it on their profile so you can avoid ![]() | |||
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"Asking for gifts/drinks/lingerie ect is a piss take as far as I can see Is it a bad time to mention how much I love Bollinger darling? ![]() Lol... All out of Bolly dear, but two cases of DP 1996 in the cellar! Hic... ![]() | |||
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"I wish I could expand on some of the profiles, but one basically labels a lot of people on the site as being 'cheapskates', with a note that 'if you think you can just roll up for a play, empty handed, (you should) forget it'. Just found that very odd! ![]() It's immensely rude to go to someone's house and not take a gift . | |||
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"I wish I could expand on some of the profiles, but one basically labels a lot of people on the site as being 'cheapskates', with a note that 'if you think you can just roll up for a play, empty handed, (you should) forget it'. Just found that very odd! ![]() Thats a very different situation than being told you have to take something | |||
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"Asking for gifts/drinks/lingerie ect is a piss take as far as I can see Is it a bad time to mention how much I love Bollinger darling? ![]() ![]() DP in the cellar? filthy bugger ![]() | |||
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"Asking for gifts/drinks/lingerie ect is a piss take as far as I can see Is it a bad time to mention how much I love Bollinger darling? ![]() ![]() ![]() Trust you to pick up on that! ![]() | |||
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"Yes maybe they do but cant blame them for trying and some men don't mind so its ok." I can blame them. And I judge. As someone has already mentioned above, it is plain rude. "I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300." I think it is unreasonable for the guy to do so. With regards to you "Body Budget", worst excuse ever!!! I am an adult woman, I manage my own body, my own hair removal, my own finances, shame on me if I expected someone to contribute financially for making my own choices! It's not a parent-child relationship we are talking about here! I do swinging for me, for my own lust, and for my own satisfaction. No financial contributions needed, thank you! | |||
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"I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300. Why would you buy condoms? If a guy doesn't turn up with them, he doesn't get to play, end of" seriously, if I was arranging a meet and it was bickering about who was supplying condoms I'd give up on swinging. I have condoms they get put on the side, they get used, fuck pratting about about bloody condoms | |||
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"If a guy is real keen on me but too far away i may ask politely for some help with the petrol" OVER my dead body! Would never stoop so low! | |||
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"fuck pratting about about bloody condoms" Quote of the day ![]() | |||
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"If a guy is real keen on me but too far away i may ask politely for some help with the petrol OVER my dead body! Would never stoop so low!" Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel .... | |||
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"I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300." I spend over £300 a month on those things for myself whether im meeting or not. you cant put a price on looking nice n clean and well groomed. | |||
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"I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300." Then give it up if you don't like shelling out I don't expect you throw each outfit away after every meet,therefore its unlikely you buy a new one for every meet either Its meant to be fun not an exercise in who has spent more and who deserves more | |||
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"I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300. Then give it up if you don't like shelling out I don't expect you throw each outfit away after every meet,therefore its unlikely you buy a new one for every meet either Its meant to be fun not an exercise in who has spent more and who deserves more" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I've taken gifts before. never been gifted myself. Personally, imho, the man is the gift. " no youre doing it wrong. ![]() | |||
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"I've taken gifts before. never been gifted myself. Personally, imho, the man is the gift. no youre doing it wrong. ![]() Only done it three times. The gifting that is. Muffins, box of chocolates and a pricey box of latex free condoms because he is allergic and he still has them too. Won't be supplying condoms again. I guess I am yes, believe gullible is the word lol | |||
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"I've taken gifts before. never been gifted myself. Personally, imho, the man is the gift. no youre doing it wrong. ![]() Too nice for your own good listen to mother ![]() | |||
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"Have seen quite a few profiles lately asking for, (or should I say demanding) gifts to be brought along to a meeting. "something fizzy and not lemonade" "a bottle of something... and not milk" "chocolates" etc. What are your thoughts on this?" That's not right. These days an Amazon gift voucher is more suitable. | |||
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"surly if your invited into someones homes its good manners to bring a bottle of wine " Sure. But it's very bad manners for them to demand it. | |||
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"If a guy is real keen on me but too far away i may ask politely for some help with the petrol OVER my dead body! Would never stoop so low! Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel ...." There is a big difference between asking for money for petrol and them offering to pay for the hotel.... | |||
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"surly if your invited into someones homes its good manners to bring a bottle of wine Sure. But it's very bad manners for them to demand it." demand or ask though, and they can always say no if they don't think shes worth it or are too tight. ![]() | |||
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"surly if your invited into someones homes its good manners to bring a bottle of wine Sure. But it's very bad manners for them to demand it. demand or ask though, and they can always say no if they don't think shes worth it or are too tight. ![]() Demand/ask. ..either way, What sort of person asks strangers for gifts?? I find it mind boggling to say the least. | |||
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"surly if your invited into someones homes its good manners to bring a bottle of wine Sure. But it's very bad manners for them to demand it." yes well mannered gents wont have to be asked .i dont think its to much to expect when youve spent 2 hours getting ready .provide condoms , lube, poppers and even viagra if required and a warm place to play if a lady or tranny invited me round 4 sex i'd be happy to bring a bottle ..or even 2 | |||
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"If a guy is real keen on me but too far away i may ask politely for some help with the petrol OVER my dead body! Would never stoop so low! Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel .... There is a big difference between asking for money for petrol and them offering to pay for the hotel...." But surly if they want to meet and i can not afford the petrol i ask politely then the ball is in thier court . | |||
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"surly if your invited into someones homes its good manners to bring a bottle of wine Sure. But it's very bad manners for them to demand it. yes well mannered gents wont have to be asked .i dont think its to much to expect when youve spent 2 hours getting ready .provide condoms , lube, poppers and even viagra if required and a warm place to play if a lady or tranny invited me round 4 sex i'd be happy to bring a bottle ..or even 2" Viagra and poppers too. ![]() | |||
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"Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel ...." I've been thinking really, really hard for almost 50 minutes now. And I still can't come up with one, single reason why I should not pay half of the expenses. | |||
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"If a guy is real keen on me but too far away i may ask politely for some help with the petrol OVER my dead body! Would never stoop so low! Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel .... There is a big difference between asking for money for petrol and them offering to pay for the hotel.... But surly if they want to meet and i can not afford the petrol i ask politely then the ball is in thier court ." Then i would tell them that i can't meet. Simple. | |||
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"surly if your invited into someones homes its good manners to bring a bottle of wine Sure. But it's very bad manners for them to demand it. demand or ask though, and they can always say no if they don't think shes worth it or are too tight. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel .... I've been thinking really, really hard for almost 50 minutes now. And I still can't come up with one, single reason why I should not pay half of the expenses." Good for you . Honey i aint short on meets or men . if they are. Willing to pay my petrol or for a hotel well thats good . we are all here for sex. | |||
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"Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel .... I've been thinking really, really hard for almost 50 minutes now. And I still can't come up with one, single reason why I should not pay half of the expenses." I will give you a very good one. You have better uses for your money and would rather not meet than take away from your family. | |||
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"Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel .... I've been thinking really, really hard for almost 50 minutes now. And I still can't come up with one, single reason why I should not pay half of the expenses. Good for you . Honey i aint short on meets or men . if they are. Willing to pay my petrol or for a hotel well thats good . we are all here for sex. " Yes I'm here for sex, not someone to pay my expenses. It changes the dynamic for me, I wouldn't like it. But if it works for you and the men who pay to meet then crack on. | |||
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"Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel .... I've been thinking really, really hard for almost 50 minutes now. And I still can't come up with one, single reason why I should not pay half of the expenses. I will give you a very good one. You have better uses for your money and would rather not meet than take away from your family." Really?! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel .... I've been thinking really, really hard for almost 50 minutes now. And I still can't come up with one, single reason why I should not pay half of the expenses. I will give you a very good one. You have better uses for your money and would rather not meet than take away from your family. Really?! ![]() ![]() The choice is between things we can do without and things we can't. I personally do not want to see anyone enough to spend more than the cost of public transport. | |||
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"Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel .... I've been thinking really, really hard for almost 50 minutes now. And I still can't come up with one, single reason why I should not pay half of the expenses. I will give you a very good one. You have better uses for your money and would rather not meet than take away from your family. Really?! ![]() ![]() But you'd expect them to want to see you enough to ask them to do so? What about their family, if they have one? I agree, it's about things you can do without vs essentials. I'd quite like to buy all my food in waitrose, but I don't expect anyone to fund me to do it. | |||
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" I will give you a very good one. You have better uses for your money and would rather not meet than take away from your family." What about their family? What about if we don't have a family? | |||
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"Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel .... I've been thinking really, really hard for almost 50 minutes now. And I still can't come up with one, single reason why I should not pay half of the expenses. I will give you a very good one. You have better uses for your money and would rather not meet than take away from your family. Really?! ![]() ![]() I buy my food in Waitrose - they are the only ones who give a one-hour slot for deliveries. ![]() ![]() | |||
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" I will give you a very good one. You have better uses for your money and would rather not meet than take away from your family. What about their family? What about if we don't have a family?" They should plan their expenses, too. Do you really worry about all men in the world? ![]() | |||
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"Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel .... I've been thinking really, really hard for almost 50 minutes now. And I still can't come up with one, single reason why I should not pay half of the expenses. I will give you a very good one. You have better uses for your money and would rather not meet than take away from your family. Really?! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Well each to their own, it obviously works for you. It just doesn't sit right with me so I can't really relate to an attitude to expecting someone else to fund it all. (Sainsburys do one-hour delivery slots) | |||
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"I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300. I spend over £300 a month on those things for myself whether im meeting or not. you cant put a price on looking nice n clean and well groomed." How much?! ![]() | |||
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"I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300." Damn. I use about a tenners worth of soap from Lush per year and that's about it. And my best jeans are about four years old now. (Doesn't stop me getting laid.) | |||
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"I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300. Damn. I use about a tenners worth of soap from Lush per year and that's about it. And my best jeans are about four years old now. (Doesn't stop me getting laid.)" Whereas I'm quite high maintenance and spend a lot on clothes, makeup, lingerie etc, but I'd still never somehow seek to call that a 'cost' of meeting people for sex. I do those things for me, not because someone else requires it. The only costs 'required' are a bar of soap and a box of condoms. | |||
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"The only costs 'required' are a bar of soap and a box of condoms. " And it's amazing how many guys don't incur either ![]() | |||
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"Do you never get men offering to pay for a hotel .... I've been thinking really, really hard for almost 50 minutes now. And I still can't come up with one, single reason why I should not pay half of the expenses. I will give you a very good one. You have better uses for your money and would rather not meet than take away from your family. Really?! ![]() ![]() Sensible lady. ![]() | |||
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"The only costs 'required' are a bar of soap and a box of condoms. And it's amazing how many guys don't incur either ![]() Yep, but those guys don't get to meet me. | |||
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"I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300. I spend over £300 a month on those things for myself whether im meeting or not. you cant put a price on looking nice n clean and well groomed. How much?! ![]() nails, hair, wax, eyebrow tints, perfume stockings, lingerie it all adds up | |||
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"I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300. I spend over £300 a month on those things for myself whether im meeting or not. you cant put a price on looking nice n clean and well groomed. How much?! ![]() Its weird I do that for myself even if I don't meet for months ....... I spoil myself ok pamper myself for myself . I don't need to meet to do that. ![]() | |||
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"I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300. I spend over £300 a month on those things for myself whether im meeting or not. you cant put a price on looking nice n clean and well groomed. How much?! ![]() What do you look like if you're not meeting? | |||
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"I gave some one a memory stick of albums I hoped they would like. It sort of didn't work out, my fault. I am glad I gave them the gift of music. I know they will appreciate it and I hope they enjoy my choices ![]() That was a very thoughtful gift,I would have probably cried lol | |||
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"I gave some one a memory stick of albums I hoped they would like. It sort of didn't work out, my fault. I am glad I gave them the gift of music. I know they will appreciate it and I hope they enjoy my choices ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I've taken gifts before. never been gifted myself. Personally, imho, the man is the gift. no youre doing it wrong. ![]() ![]() I need all the help I can get. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Saw a womans status local to us, saying a bottle of vodka, and 20 ciggies if you want to meet, bet she got it too " Christ. Way to value yourself! I mean I'd at least make it a bottle of champagne and a box of finest cigars ![]() | |||
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"Some bonkers comments on this thread, I'm not judging anyone at all, just really struggling to understand / relate to some perspectives. " ![]() | |||
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"I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300. I spend over £300 a month on those things for myself whether im meeting or not. you cant put a price on looking nice n clean and well groomed. How much?! ![]() ![]() We can't all afford that or have a partner to pay for that. I contribute to my grandchildren's upbringing which will always come before sex. I spend £5 every couple of months on hair dye and very rarely I might buy replacement hold ups,which I hardly wear anyway. I don't spend much on myself for a meet as I can't. It hasn't stopped men wanting to see me again | |||
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"I had a lady text me just as I was leaving home to drive to her house for a meet...... She asked me to stop off at a cash-point as she needed "to borrow £90 to pay her car tax"!! ![]() Wtf!!! Wow how rude!! ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I've clearly missed a trick here. Im going to ask my next meet to bring me a 52" 3d telly (with glasses x2 and all wall brackets included) as a tribute." Sony or Toshiba? Just tell me which and I'm on my way ![]() | |||
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"I had a lady text me just as I was leaving home to drive to her house for a meet...... She asked me to stop off at a cash-point as she needed "to borrow £90 to pay her car tax"!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() had similar today "you can do anal but i need £50!!! ![]() | |||
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" Whereas I'm quite high maintenance and spend a lot on clothes, makeup, lingerie etc, but I'd still never somehow seek to call that a 'cost' of meeting people for sex. I do those things for me, not because someone else requires it. The only costs 'required' are a bar of soap and a box of condoms. " Same here, although I do mix some quality with not so expensive clothing, cosmetics not so. Love feeling a little special on a meet and the build up buying/selecting clothes is something we both enjoy along with the talk/pics between ourselves before a meet. It doesn't have to cost much, a small budget for play doesn't hurt plus we don't do clubs so don't have that expense. | |||
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"Have seen quite a few profiles lately asking for, (or should I say demanding) gifts to be brought along to a meeting. "something fizzy and not lemonade" "a bottle of something... and not milk" "chocolates" etc. What are your thoughts on this?" I would expect the guy to pay for the drinks, the dinner, the room, the bottle of Prosecco, the chocolates, the flowers. But hey, if you are skint then you have the choice of meeting someone for just a shag ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I had a lady text me just as I was leaving home to drive to her house for a meet...... She asked me to stop off at a cash-point as she needed "to borrow £90 to pay her car tax"!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Wow ![]() | |||
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"Have seen quite a few profiles lately asking for, (or should I say demanding) gifts to be brought along to a meeting. "something fizzy and not lemonade" "a bottle of something... and not milk" "chocolates" etc. What are your thoughts on this? I would expect the guy to pay for the drinks, the dinner, the room, the bottle of Prosecco, the chocolates, the flowers. But hey, if you are skint then you have the choice of meeting someone for just a shag ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hmmmm a shag that doesn't cost a lot or a shag that expects to be treated like a date? If I was a sensible guy on a swinging site I know what option i'd go for ![]() | |||
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"Have seen quite a few profiles lately asking for, (or should I say demanding) gifts to be brought along to a meeting. "something fizzy and not lemonade" "a bottle of something... and not milk" "chocolates" etc. What are your thoughts on this? I would expect the guy to pay for the drinks, the dinner, the room, the bottle of Prosecco, the chocolates, the flowers. But hey, if you are skint then you have the choice of meeting someone for just a shag ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() There's a world of difference available between a quickie down a dark alley and a paid-for date. I prefer a date type experience that we've shared the cost of. | |||
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"Have seen quite a few profiles lately asking for, (or should I say demanding) gifts to be brought along to a meeting. "something fizzy and not lemonade" "a bottle of something... and not milk" "chocolates" etc. What are your thoughts on this? I would expect the guy to pay for the drinks, the dinner, the room, the bottle of Prosecco, the chocolates, the flowers. But hey, if you are skint then you have the choice of meeting someone for just a shag ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() If your preference is for going Dutch on a date then you do that I have never done that, soooo, I don't do it ![]() | |||
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"Have seen quite a few profiles lately asking for, (or should I say demanding) gifts to be brought along to a meeting. "something fizzy and not lemonade" "a bottle of something... and not milk" "chocolates" etc. What are your thoughts on this? I would expect the guy to pay for the drinks, the dinner, the room, the bottle of Prosecco, the chocolates, the flowers. But hey, if you are skint then you have the choice of meeting someone for just a shag ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I share costs, unless I'm on expenses when I cover the hotel room and possibly a meal if I can get away with 2 meals at round about £40...I've never had a date where I expected the guy to pay for dinner, room, booze, chocs and flowers and I guess I never will as to me it would leave me feeling obligated to shag.- I should also say that Id never invite someone to my home from a long way away unless I'd already met or pretty much already decided to shag them on messages/calls only | |||
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"Yes maybe they do but cant blame them for trying and some men don't mind so its ok.I can blame them. And I judge. As someone has already mentioned above, it is plain rude. I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300. I think it is unreasonable for the guy to do so. With regards to you "Body Budget", worst excuse ever!!! I am an adult woman, I manage my own body, my own hair removal, my own finances, shame on me if I expected someone to contribute financially for making my own choices! It's not a parent-child relationship we are talking about here! I do swinging for me, for my own lust, and for my own satisfaction. No financial contributions needed, thank you!" Well said! ![]() | |||
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"I got bought a Kinder Egg once. And it was a blue one rather than pink so I got a robot, which I was well chuffed with. I bought the same guy a mug because it made me laugh. None of these were demands; if you ask for something it's not exactly a gift." I bought a Kinder egg the other day...it was great cos the last egg I bought was mean and kept calling me names ![]() | |||
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"Yes maybe they do but cant blame them for trying and some men don't mind so its ok.I can blame them. And I judge. As someone has already mentioned above, it is plain rude. I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy to buy a lady a drink. I mean, we buy the condoms, any lingerie and special clothes or shoes. There's also waxing, make up and hair. Men: have a shower. Turn up. I estimate a year's swinging had cost me over £300. I think it is unreasonable for the guy to do so. With regards to you "Body Budget", worst excuse ever!!! I am an adult woman, I manage my own body, my own hair removal, my own finances, shame on me if I expected someone to contribute financially for making my own choices! It's not a parent-child relationship we are talking about here! I do swinging for me, for my own lust, and for my own satisfaction. No financial contributions needed, thank you! Well said! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Have seen quite a few profiles lately asking for, (or should I say demanding) gifts to be brought along to a meeting. "something fizzy and not lemonade" "a bottle of something... and not milk" "chocolates" etc. What are your thoughts on this? I would expect the guy to pay for the drinks, the dinner, the room, the bottle of Prosecco, the chocolates, the flowers. But hey, if you are skint then you have the choice of meeting someone for just a shag ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So, do you feel obligated to strip and have sex when you go on a vanilla date where the guy pays for dinner, drinks, etc? I don't feel any such obligation on a vanilla date so why on Earth would I feel that I owe him something if I met him from here??? Same difference to me. But I am not asking him to do all of this. It is an expectation I grew up with. Maybe you did not and had to pay for your evenings out with your vanilla dates If he expects me to go halves on the room, etc, then I am not going to sit down and 'negotiate' with him. I'll just turn the key in the ignition and drive myself back home, alone ![]() | |||
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"I may be a bit thick, but I have never really understood the difference between a woman who says "give me £50 for sex" and one who says "buy me the following gifts, which cost £50 for sex". Except, perhaps, that one is being more honest with herself. Nevertheless, I refuse to judge either - each to their own - but neither are for us thanks. Mr ddc" Mr ddc...Fancy a fuck? The cats need worming and I could do with a bottle of Bucky...how's that sound? ![]() | |||
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" Mr ddc...Fancy a fuck? The cats need worming and I could do with a bottle of Bucky...how's that sound? ![]() Not so keen on wormy pussies, sorry ![]() | |||
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"I had a lady text me just as I was leaving home to drive to her house for a meet...... She asked me to stop off at a cash-point as she needed "to borrow £90 to pay her car tax"!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() i know cheek? i said ive got 25 can i put half in! ![]() | |||
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"Have seen quite a few profiles lately asking for, (or should I say demanding) gifts to be brought along to a meeting. "something fizzy and not lemonade" "a bottle of something... and not milk" "chocolates" etc. What are your thoughts on this? I would expect the guy to pay for the drinks, the dinner, the room, the bottle of Prosecco, the chocolates, the flowers. But hey, if you are skint then you have the choice of meeting someone for just a shag ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm not on a vanilla date as I don't do them...yes I would feel obligated which is why I posted and explained my personal opinion...if you're not asking him to do it but expecting it, as that's what you grew up with; how on earth is he supposed to know that is your expectation? If, as you say, you'd drive away...fair dos. I'm on a swinging site, looking for NSA sex, ergo my expectation is to share costs (unless as previously stated, I'm on expenses where my work funds the hotel)...it's whatever works for one person - I'd feel like a pro if I was expecting a guy to pay all the bills on a "date" which, if I didn't fancy him, would make me feel pressurised into shagging when I wasn't attracted | |||
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" Mr ddc...Fancy a fuck? The cats need worming and I could do with a bottle of Bucky...how's that sound? ![]() ![]() Picky, picky picky....that's you off my hotlist ![]() | |||
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"Well something on Fab surprises me every day, and today it's been this thread. I'm genuinely gobsmacked at how different so many women's attitude is to mine on this, and how some seem proud of making men pay or could suggest those of us who want to contribute its because we have to.. So it's true after all, I'm a fucking awesome catch, they don't even have to pay for it. " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Well something on Fab surprises me every day, and today it's been this thread. I'm genuinely gobsmacked at how different so many women's attitude is to mine on this, and how some seem proud of making men pay or could suggest those of us who want to contribute its because we have to.. So it's true after all, I'm a fucking awesome catch, they don't even have to pay for it. " That made me laugh! ![]() | |||
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"So it's true after all, I'm a fucking awesome catch ![]() ![]() Second that ![]() | |||
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"Have seen quite a few profiles lately asking for, (or should I say demanding) gifts to be brought along to a meeting. "something fizzy and not lemonade" "a bottle of something... and not milk" "chocolates" etc. What are your thoughts on this? I would expect the guy to pay for the drinks, the dinner, the room, the bottle of Prosecco, the chocolates, the flowers. But hey, if you are skint then you have the choice of meeting someone for just a shag ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() A guy paying for dinner and drinks on a date is quite different from him handing you £1500.00 for the rent on your Condo. Then you are a 'pro' But like I said; it is what you are used to. You are probably used to paying for your dates and are happy doing so. In which case, carry on I on the other hand, never took a guy out on a dinner date and paid for it; and I am not about to start now ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Have seen quite a few profiles lately asking for, (or should I say demanding) gifts to be brought along to a meeting. "something fizzy and not lemonade" "a bottle of something... and not milk" "chocolates" etc. What are your thoughts on this? I would expect the guy to pay for the drinks, the dinner, the room, the bottle of Prosecco, the chocolates, the flowers. But hey, if you are skint then you have the choice of meeting someone for just a shag ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it, as am I. would you like a hand putting your toys back in your pram? | |||
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"Have seen quite a few profiles lately asking for, (or should I say demanding) gifts to be brought along to a meeting. "something fizzy and not lemonade" "a bottle of something... and not milk" "chocolates" etc. What are your thoughts on this? I would expect the guy to pay for the drinks, the dinner, the room, the bottle of Prosecco, the chocolates, the flowers. But hey, if you are skint then you have the choice of meeting someone for just a shag ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() No thanks, I don't do 'prams'; double barrelled or otherwise; with or without the 'ciggie' drooping from my lips ![]() | |||
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" I on the other hand, never took a guy out on a dinner date and paid for it; and I am not about to start now ![]() ![]() I can only speak for myself on this one, but if we met on a date and you told me that, we probably wouldn't meet again. I have no problem sharing anything I own with someone or paying for them, but it's done out of thought and care on my part. Not because of expectation. As for the 'shag me' comment... I thought we're all consenting adults agreeing to shag each other. It's not a one way thing! ![]() | |||
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" I on the other hand, never took a guy out on a dinner date and paid for it; and I am not about to start now ![]() ![]() ![]() Rest assured, you don't have to worry about any of this at all ![]() | |||
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" Rest assured, you don't have to worry about any of this at all ![]() There is a God! ![]() | |||
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"If two people are meeting for mutual benefit then shared costs is fair. Anything else suggests uneven benefit. Or one is paying the other. That's prostitution. I'm not judging. Pay for sex, get paid for sex; just be admit to yourself that's what's happening. If you're still happy with it, keep doing it. Just don't expect others to agree with you. " That is how some guys want to see it. Those are not the type of guys I would meet A vanilla date is for "mutual benefit" too. And I guess you'd expect her to pay for her 'fair share' at McDonalds ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I wish I could expand on some of the profiles, but one basically labels a lot of people on the site as being 'cheapskates', with a note that 'if you think you can just roll up for a play, empty handed, (you should) forget it'. Just found that very odd! ![]() Personally I'd report them. | |||
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"I too am looking for NSA sex; but I am not about to start booking rooms and paying for those so that some guy can 'shag' me" Josie, is this genuinely how you see NSA sex, or are you exaggerating to try and make a point? Is the man always desperate? Is your time or body worth more than his? Do you not value yourself more than just something which is just paid to be shagged? | |||
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"I too am looking for NSA sex; but I am not about to start booking rooms and paying for those so that some guy can 'shag' me Josie, is this genuinely how you see NSA sex, or are you exaggerating to try and make a point? Is the man always desperate? Is your time or body worth more than his? Do you not value yourself more than just something which is just paid to be shagged? " I genuinely do not expect to 'go halves' on anything. This is not about NSA or NASA sex or whatever. It is how I have always been treated It is not a question of me valuing myself more than him. It is a question of me having an expectation that: - he will open the car door for me - walk on the traffic side of the side-walk with me - be behind me when going up on the escalator and ahead of me when coming down - carry the bags Now you may think that this is all very well in 'normal' life but this is a 'shag site' where some women will do it down the proverbial 'dark alley'. And maybe you are right But I don't have to go down to that level. When I get that desperate, I stick my vibrator's USB cable into my laptop and,,, problem solved ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Without getting personal, this is really quite a depressing thread. There are serious self-respect issues and possibly more on display here. I'm privileged to know professional, academic, intelligent women who would never dream of lowering themselves to being bought. ... and on that note I shall slip back out of this weird, depressing thread and try and find some people talking about fun things. " It seems to me that it is you with the self-respect issues. Nobody is saying that you have to buy anything. I am saying that I will not pay for a room, drinks, etc to have sex with a guy. To me, that is a serious lack of self-respect Skint single male swingers try and polish this up with 'equality'. What they are really saying is that they would, on a vanilla date, pay for the evening without any expectations but here, the women are just 'slags' who should pay their own way for a f**k. Lets be clear about that Yet, the same skint single male swingers have to fork out £20.00 for membership AND £60.00 for entrance fee at any swinger's clubs in and around London. And these places are literally crawling with them. What happened to 'equality' then? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Without getting personal, this is really quite a depressing thread. There are serious self-respect issues and possibly more on display here. I'm privileged to know professional, academic, intelligent women who would never dream of lowering themselves to being bought. ... and on that note I shall slip back out of this weird, depressing thread and try and find some people talking about fun things. It seems to me that it is you with the self-respect issues. Nobody is saying that you have to buy anything. I am saying that I will not pay for a room, drinks, etc to have sex with a guy. To me, that is a serious lack of self-respect Skint single male swingers try and polish this up with 'equality'. What they are really saying is that they would, on a vanilla date, pay for the evening without any expectations but here, the women are just 'slags' who should pay their own way for a f**k. Lets be clear about that Yet, the same skint single male swingers have to fork out £20.00 for membership AND £60.00 for entrance fee at any swinger's clubs in and around London. And these places are literally crawling with them. What happened to 'equality' then? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You have reworded what you said. You're starting to sound less like a commodity now which is good. I hope you continue to progress. x | |||
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"Without getting personal, this is really quite a depressing thread. There are serious self-respect issues and possibly more on display here. I'm privileged to know professional, academic, intelligent women who would never dream of lowering themselves to being bought. ... and on that note I shall slip back out of this weird, depressing thread and try and find some people talking about fun things. It seems to me that it is you with the self-respect issues. Nobody is saying that you have to buy anything. I am saying that I will not pay for a room, drinks, etc to have sex with a guy. To me, that is a serious lack of self-respect Skint single male swingers try and polish this up with 'equality'. What they are really saying is that they would, on a vanilla date, pay for the evening without any expectations but here, the women are just 'slags' who should pay their own way for a f**k. Lets be clear about that Yet, the same skint single male swingers have to fork out £20.00 for membership AND £60.00 for entrance fee at any swinger's clubs in and around London. And these places are literally crawling with them. What happened to 'equality' then? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So are you saying you expect the guy to pay everything with no share costs?.... | |||
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"Without getting personal, this is really quite a depressing thread. There are serious self-respect issues and possibly more on display here. I'm privileged to know professional, academic, intelligent women who would never dream of lowering themselves to being bought. ... and on that note I shall slip back out of this weird, depressing thread and try and find some people talking about fun things. It seems to me that it is you with the self-respect issues. Nobody is saying that you have to buy anything. I am saying that I will not pay for a room, drinks, etc to have sex with a guy. To me, that is a serious lack of self-respect Skint single male swingers try and polish this up with 'equality'. What they are really saying is that they would, on a vanilla date, pay for the evening without any expectations but here, the women are just 'slags' who should pay their own way for a f**k. Lets be clear about that Yet, the same skint single male swingers have to fork out £20.00 for membership AND £60.00 for entrance fee at any swinger's clubs in and around London. And these places are literally crawling with them. What happened to 'equality' then? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm not sure you will see him at a club hun, a quick glance at veris reveals you're not operating in the same sort of circles at all. And neither are you and I, so this thread all makes a lot more sense to me now. | |||
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"Without getting personal, this is really quite a depressing thread. There are serious self-respect issues and possibly more on display here. I'm privileged to know professional, academic, intelligent women who would never dream of lowering themselves to being bought. ... and on that note I shall slip back out of this weird, depressing thread and try and find some people talking about fun things. It seems to me that it is you with the self-respect issues. Nobody is saying that you have to buy anything. I am saying that I will not pay for a room, drinks, etc to have sex with a guy. To me, that is a serious lack of self-respect Skint single male swingers try and polish this up with 'equality'. What they are really saying is that they would, on a vanilla date, pay for the evening without any expectations but here, the women are just 'slags' who should pay their own way for a f**k. Lets be clear about that Yet, the same skint single male swingers have to fork out £20.00 for membership AND £60.00 for entrance fee at any swinger's clubs in and around London. And these places are literally crawling with them. What happened to 'equality' then? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Damn; did I type all of the above using the Plattdeutsch Codec??? ![]() | |||
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