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"I think it is a matter of how comfortable the guy is with his sexuality. Am completely straight and have no sexual feelings to other males but I can admit if a guy is good looking. Have no problem with a guys bits n bobs being close to me and in a DP situation naturally they touch and is not a turn on for me but honestly doesn't phase me one bit. I personally think straight guys who are really uncomfortable with other guys in close proximity are afraid they might like it. . . But hey as you said can only speak from experience. " nods in agreement totally straight - comfortable round other blokes (even if they're bigger / trimmer than me) been to gang bangs & although I'm not sure I've probable had bi guys touch me etc but to be honest to me it's satisfying the Fem - if she's happy, I'm happy (see feedback from solo one(m) on my profile) | |||
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"God, I don't know any straight male swingers. " The ones that still believe they are straight are easy to spot ... they high five each other when they change positions. Kirsty xxx xxx | |||
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"God, I don't know any straight male swingers. The ones that still believe they are straight are easy to spot ... they high five each other when they change positions. Kirsty xxx xxx" ? hehe oh hell yeh! If a bloke sucks my cock & I don't feel stuble or see a bald head WTF does that make me bi 1 pussy 2 cocks am I bi? DP am I bi - not into stuff up my bum or cock in my face - nah! Comfortable with myself - out for fun fun fun lol | |||
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"God, I don't know any straight male swingers. The ones that still believe they are straight are easy to spot ... they high five each other when they change positions. Kirsty xxx xxx" The same men tend to be the ones who play team sports. You know "all boys together" type thing. Loads of male company. Loads of bonding and going to the gym. Showering naked with other men twice or thrice weekly. The kind of men who have "real" mates. The kind of men who tend to be a bit misogynistic and have difficulty with relationships. But they are not gay. Oh no. No way. Straight as a die, mate. And always REALLY keen to point that out. Jusy in case you thought.... But you didnt. Because they arent. No way. Nor do they understand the meaning of the word "repressed". Because they don't have a dictionary in the house. Because that would be a bit, well, gay... | |||
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"im not a man but i do have an opinion on this subject...if im allowed lol Now ive had many a 3sum with both 2 bi men and 2 straight men and i dont think many straight men are that comfy being to close to other men. take DP for example, i have got to the point i will only do DP with bi guys as ive had so many problems with straight guys during this act, some stopping cause they have said they dont feel comfy about it, some not being able to get hard etc one guy actually moved away cause the other guys leg was touching him, i think most straigh men are happy to have a 3sum with another guy so long as its stuff like spit roast where theres no contact but when it comes body contact thats another thing of course this dont apply to all straight men, i have no doubt at all 2 dozen straight men are now going to try and prove me wrong lol I can only speak from my experience tho" i consider myself straight, not even curious about play with another guy. i do have to agree with you, that some guys do take it to the extreme with regards to contact with other men, having witnessed it personally at one or two meets. as in everything else in this lifestyle you are going to come across anomolies, either out of ignorance or plain prejudice. some guys may believe you can catch bi-ness from the practice of dp, all i can say to them is you missing a wicked experience | |||
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"I have read more than one article suggesting everybody is bi or potentialy bi.Things like upbringing etc affect how straight or bi you admit to.For example, in prison, many many people have what would be considered gay sex, and when released, go "straight" again. Even some hardened criminals. " "hardened criminals" | |||
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"I have read more than one article suggesting everybody is bi or potentialy bi.Things like upbringing etc affect how straight or bi you admit to.For example, in prison, many many people have what would be considered gay sex, and when released, go "straight" again. Even some hardened criminals. "hardened criminals" " That's what you call a stiff sentence Kirsty xxx xxx | |||
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"So...when did being straight and having a preference to straight members of the opposite sex become a problem for others?!! People who have personal preferences - whether it be sexuality, religion etc annoy me when they try to press their point of view. Do what you like to who ever you like - allow others their choices. How dare the preferences of others be questioned!! How arrogant would I be to contact someone asking why they didn't want to play with a bbw when they had "slim female" sought on their profile. They need to explain it to me as pussy is pussy...right?!! Wrong!! Their choice! Get over yourselves some of you - you will NEVER be for everyone - concentrate on people who are looking for you, and side step those that are not!! Some people!! " | |||
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"I think it is a matter of how comfortable the guy is with his sexuality. Am completely straight and have no sexual feelings to other males but I can admit if a guy is good looking. Have no problem with a guys bits n bobs being close to me and in a DP situation naturally they touch and is not a turn on for me but honestly doesn't phase me one bit. I personally think straight guys who are really uncomfortable with other guys in close proximity are afraid they might like it. . . But hey as you said can only speak from experience. " You were making a great post until the last section. To the rest of the thread ...yet again we end up with people trying to over analyze and thinking straight people are somehow surpressing their sexuality or scared that a bi person will jump them if they get close enough. I won't justify to anyone why I KNOW I am straight just like any other person doesn't have to justify their sexuality with me, I just accept they are what they say they are and don't try to make out they are anything else. As for the original post, how can two straight men be straight if they are shagging each other? | |||
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"I think it is a matter of how comfortable the guy is with his sexuality. Am completely straight and have no sexual feelings to other males but I can admit if a guy is good looking. Have no problem with a guys bits n bobs being close to me and in a DP situation naturally they touch and is not a turn on for me but honestly doesn't phase me one bit. I personally think straight guys who are really uncomfortable with other guys in close proximity are afraid they might like it. . . But hey as you said can only speak from experience. You were making a great post until the last section. To the rest of the thread ...yet again we end up with people trying to over analyze and thinking straight people are somehow surpressing their sexuality or scared that a bi person will jump them if they get close enough. I won't justify to anyone why I KNOW I am straight just like any other person doesn't have to justify their sexuality with me, I just accept they are what they say they are and don't try to make out they are anything else. As for the original post, how can two straight men be straight if they are shagging each other?" I think you need to read into the orginal post, I am sure he is referring to the 2 straight males playing with a female not each other! | |||
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"So...when did being straight and having a preference to straight members of the opposite sex become a problem for others?!! People who have personal preferences - whether it be sexuality, religion etc annoy me when they try to press their point of view. Do what you like to who ever you like - allow others their choices. How dare the preferences of others be questioned!! How arrogant would I be to contact someone asking why they didn't want to play with a bbw when they had "slim female" sought on their profile. They need to explain it to me as pussy is pussy...right?!! Wrong!! Their choice! Get over yourselves some of you - you will NEVER be for everyone - concentrate on people who are looking for you, and side step those that are not!! Some people!! " Ok but how would it be any different in a one on one situation between a woman and a man if either of them was straight or bi? And comparing between bbw and slim is not a valid comparison really. This is a forum post and nothing about anyones arrogance | |||
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"I think it is a matter of how comfortable the guy is with his sexuality. Am completely straight and have no sexual feelings to other males but I can admit if a guy is good looking. Have no problem with a guys bits n bobs being close to me and in a DP situation naturally they touch and is not a turn on for me but honestly doesn't phase me one bit. I personally think straight guys who are really uncomfortable with other guys in close proximity are afraid they might like it. . . But hey as you said can only speak from experience. You were making a great post until the last section. To the rest of the thread ...yet again we end up with people trying to over analyze and thinking straight people are somehow surpressing their sexuality or scared that a bi person will jump them if they get close enough. I won't justify to anyone why I KNOW I am straight just like any other person doesn't have to justify their sexuality with me, I just accept they are what they say they are and don't try to make out they are anything else. As for the original post, how can two straight men be straight if they are shagging each other? I think you need to read into the orginal post, I am sure he is referring to the 2 straight males playing with a female not each other!" Yeah noticed that after I posted it but left it on anyway. Will go answer the OP now, as I think it has been lost as usual when bi people get mentioned. | |||
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"I'm interested to know what you guys feel I'm bi so its a BIG turn on to feel a man as a well as woman...when we are both inside and can all feel each other! but for a fully str8 guy, and i know you guys exist, whats the buzz? genuine question..." I can answer for the OH while he is at work as I know what he gets out of it. In a 3some situation his kicks have nothing to do with the other male, his turn on is watching me enjoying myself with two men or one man when he sits back and watches. I know this isn't in the question but will say it anyway....my kicks are having two men plus knowing he is enjoying it so much while watching me play with two men. | |||
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"I'm interested to know what you guys feel I'm bi so its a BIG turn on to feel a man as a well as woman...when we are both inside and can all feel each other! but for a fully str8 guy, and i know you guys exist, whats the buzz? genuine question... I can answer for the OH while he is at work as I know what he gets out of it. In a 3some situation his kicks have nothing to do with the other male, his turn on is watching me enjoying myself with two men or one man when he sits back and watches. I know this isn't in the question but will say it anyway....my kicks are having two men plus knowing he is enjoying it so much while watching me play with two men." That makes sense, as long as the other male doesn't get stage fright! | |||
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"I'm interested to know what you guys feel I'm bi so its a BIG turn on to feel a man as a well as woman...when we are both inside and can all feel each other! but for a fully str8 guy, and i know you guys exist, whats the buzz? genuine question... I can answer for the OH while he is at work as I know what he gets out of it. In a 3some situation his kicks have nothing to do with the other male, his turn on is watching me enjoying myself with two men or one man when he sits back and watches. I know this isn't in the question but will say it anyway....my kicks are having two men plus knowing he is enjoying it so much while watching me play with two men. That makes sense, as long as the other male doesn't get stage fright!" Of course.....but then anyone can get stage fright, whatever sexuality they are. Happily we havn't encountered that yet,but I am sure we will at some point. | |||
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"I have to say I agree with the OP about two guys. Ive had 2 guys touching me, i love two different hands, one touching my gspot, one touching my clit but on a normal night at Chams theres not many guys who will do it as they dont seem to want to brush against my guys hand. On bi night its different, men dont mind being touched, and that doesnt mean just the rude bits, but its not a problem if legs brush against each other. My guy is very comfortable with his sexuality and would describe himself as a straight male. He has however sucked guys by himself and with me and him sharing. I think its great that men can be confident enough to do this. Its only a position, it doesnt make you gay, swingings about living the fantasy and trying new things for us. I dont think he would go for full penetrative sex, well not at the moment, maybe in time he will. he will always be a straight male though. I tend to find on bi night that hands will touch any body part, male or female and it adds more spice and fun to the action. Its no worse than two women touching each other. " A very good point! I have had accidental brushes with a straight male, hasn't distracted me from the task in hand (or mouth!) Will say though, playing with a couple where the guy is bi, curious, bi playful, or just sexually flexible, it has felt more relaxed and fun, and of course you get the best of both! hehe And i to love to feel more than one set of hands on me! Not just hands i might add! | |||
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"I'm interested to know what you guys feel I'm bi so its a BIG turn on to feel a man as a well as woman...when we are both inside and can all feel each other! but for a fully str8 guy, and i know you guys exist, whats the buzz? genuine question..." What's the buzz if you're straight?! I would imagine quite similar if there was just you in there! Steve is dead straight, hasn't got a problem with DP and doesn't do it to get close to a cock, he does it for the pleasure of the lady and himself! Z | |||
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"Oh god not another straight bashing thread from the openly bi folks who all describe themselves as straight or bi curious in their profiles, shock horror, even worse when they start telling you everyone’s bi and it’s just that you haven’t tried it yet, or straight is boring and bi is double the fun, then wonder why people have preferences. " Calm down ...calm down ... It's only a commercial ... speaking for myself here ... any such comment is purley tongue in cheek. PS: I used to be straight ... Kirsty xxx xxx | |||
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"Oh god not another straight bashing thread from the openly bi folks who all describe themselves as straight or bi curious in their profiles, shock horror, even worse when they start telling you everyone’s bi and it’s just that you haven’t tried it yet, or straight is boring and bi is double the fun, then wonder why people have preferences. Calm down ...calm down ... It's only a commercial ... speaking for myself here ... any such comment is purley tongue in cheek. PS: I used to be straight ... Kirsty xxx xxx" I’m calm honest just winds me up when you here things like, do they think they’re going to be jumped on etc etc, they never think that on some occasions that exact thing may have just happened to someone. On a serious note, I wish I had a pound for every time I’ve been told that I’ve just not met the right person yet, or we’ll try and if you’re not comfortable we can stop when it gets to a conversing before arranging a meet. Unfortunately some folks just cannot grasp the fact some people are genuinely straight, which I kind of understand because most people with bi tendencies seem to hide behind the straight or bi curious labels, so I genuinely feel sorry for the genuine bisexuals out there when it comes to looking, as they probably don’t know if they’re coming or going (pardon the pun) Anyway back to the OP, its all about the lady getting pleasure | |||
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"So...when did being straight and having a preference to straight members of the opposite sex become a problem for others?!! People who have personal preferences - whether it be sexuality, religion etc annoy me when they try to press their point of view. Do what you like to who ever you like - allow others their choices. How dare the preferences of others be questioned!! How arrogant would I be to contact someone asking why they didn't want to play with a bbw when they had "slim female" sought on their profile. They need to explain it to me as pussy is pussy...right?!! Wrong!! Their choice! Get over yourselves some of you - you will NEVER be for everyone - concentrate on people who are looking for you, and side step those that are not!! Some people!! " here here | |||
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"im not a man but i do have an opinion on this subject...if im allowed lol Now ive had many a 3sum with both 2 bi men and 2 straight men and i dont think many straight men are that comfy being to close to other men. take DP for example, i have got to the point i will only do DP with bi guys as ive had so many problems with straight guys during this act, some stopping cause they have said they dont feel comfy about it, some not being able to get hard etc one guy actually moved away cause the other guys leg was touching him, i think most straigh men are happy to have a 3sum with another guy so long as its stuff like spit roast where theres no contact but when it comes body contact thats another thing of course this dont apply to all straight men, i have no doubt at all 2 dozen straight men are now going to try and prove me wrong lol I can only speak from my experience tho" I'm not bi, but find dp a major turn on, and nothing gets me harder than knowing the woman is enjoying having both her ass and pussy filled. | |||
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" I’m calm honest just winds me up when you here things like, do they think they’re going to be jumped on etc etc, they never think that on some occasions that exact thing may have just happened to someone. On a serious note, I wish I had a pound for every time I’ve been told that I’ve just not met the right person yet, or we’ll try and if you’re not comfortable we can stop when it gets to a conversing before arranging a meet. Unfortunately some folks just cannot grasp the fact some people are genuinely straight, which I kind of understand because most people with bi tendencies seem to hide behind the straight or bi curious labels, so I genuinely feel sorry for the genuine bisexuals out there when it comes to looking, as they probably don’t know if they’re coming or going (pardon the pun) " Someday perhaps, if we can find more people like you, the world will finally come round to accepting hetrosexuality is not just some disease but something you have to be. Someday if more people can be out and proud like you, be willing to parade in floats and demand equal rights for straights .... the general public will eventually attain some level of understanding and be able to see straightness as more than a perversion. It saddens me to think of opressed people like you ... struggling to cope with judgemental guys wanting to touch your goolies when you are trying to shag another man's wife .... It saddens me that people still believe electro-shock therapy, lobotomys and castration may cure you of your affliction. I may not understand your straightness but I do empathise with your plight ... I imagine it cannot help when your partner looks hot as she does ... it must be impossible to break the temptation .... Maybe society will accept your hetrosexuality, maybe not in our lifetime, but you must keep campaigning for the sake of your children, and their children beyond .... Be Straight and be proud ... Bisexual men are behind you all the way ... but I guess that brings no comfort to your soul .... Kirsty xxx xxx | |||
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"How very nice of you should have mentioned it was the fem who was typing, please don't assume all women have goolies thanks " Sorry force of habbit. Kirsty Xxx xxx | |||
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"I have to say I agree with the OP about two guys. Ive had 2 guys touching me, i love two different hands, one touching my gspot, one touching my clit but on a normal night at Chams theres not many guys who will do it as they dont seem to want to brush against my guys hand. On bi night its different, men dont mind being touched, and that doesnt mean just the rude bits, but its not a problem if legs brush against each other. My guy is very comfortable with his sexuality and would describe himself as a straight male. He has however sucked guys by himself and with me and him sharing. I think its great that men can be confident enough to do this. Its only a position, it doesnt make you gay, swingings about living the fantasy and trying new things for us. I dont think he would go for full penetrative sex, well not at the moment, maybe in time he will. he will always be a straight male though. I tend to find on bi night that hands will touch any body part, male or female and it adds more spice and fun to the action. Its no worse than two women touching each other. " Please excuse my ignorance but if a man enjoys oral play with another man does this not in some way make him bi? | |||
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"I have to say I agree with the OP about two guys. Ive had 2 guys touching me, i love two different hands, one touching my gspot, one touching my clit but on a normal night at Chams theres not many guys who will do it as they dont seem to want to brush against my guys hand. On bi night its different, men dont mind being touched, and that doesnt mean just the rude bits, but its not a problem if legs brush against each other. My guy is very comfortable with his sexuality and would describe himself as a straight male. He has however sucked guys by himself and with me and him sharing. I think its great that men can be confident enough to do this. Its only a position, it doesnt make you gay, swingings about living the fantasy and trying new things for us. I dont think he would go for full penetrative sex, well not at the moment, maybe in time he will. he will always be a straight male though. I tend to find on bi night that hands will touch any body part, male or female and it adds more spice and fun to the action. Its no worse than two women touching each other. Please excuse my ignorance but if a man enjoys oral play with another man does this not in some way make him bi?" Didn't you know? It's similar to not being gay but fucking a guy who is! R | |||
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"He has however sucked guys by himself and with me and him sharing. I dont think he would go for full penetrative sex, well not at the moment, maybe in time he will. he will always be a straight male though. " I fully agree that it is not good having to worry about someones leg brushing somone else and so on, but i am a little confused how the above equates to a straight male? | |||
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"Because we openly advertise as a bi couple seeking Bi guys or Bi couples only, it makes you wonder just how many straight guys are actually Bi, the reason I say this is: We recieve loads of mail same as most couples do with pictures of a sexy fem on there profile, yet over 70 % of mail recieved is from straight guys. When we mail back saying looking for Bi Guys only they nearly always get back to us telling us they are really bi but don,t want anyone to know. So ... as you say just how many straight guys are out there....the answer is not many. " i will agree with you on that one. i admit yes my profile says straight i do mention i am hetexible (bi playfull) on thier as i can see who has viewed my profile i notice that i got alot of straight men looking at me. you could say that its people checking verifications i have left but that wont count for most i dont think | |||
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"I have to say I agree with the OP about two guys. Ive had 2 guys touching me, i love two different hands, one touching my gspot, one touching my clit but on a normal night at Chams theres not many guys who will do it as they dont seem to want to brush against my guys hand. On bi night its different, men dont mind being touched, and that doesnt mean just the rude bits, but its not a problem if legs brush against each other. My guy is very comfortable with his sexuality and would describe himself as a straight male. He has however sucked guys by himself and with me and him sharing. I think its great that men can be confident enough to do this. Its only a position, it doesnt make you gay, swingings about living the fantasy and trying new things for us. I dont think he would go for full penetrative sex, well not at the moment, maybe in time he will. he will always be a straight male though. I tend to find on bi night that hands will touch any body part, male or female and it adds more spice and fun to the action. Its no worse than two women touching each other. Please excuse my ignorance but if a man enjoys oral play with another man does this not in some way make him bi? Didn't you know? It's similar to not being gay but fucking a guy who is! R" Surely that would depend on whether they only fucked gay guys? If they fucked women as well then that would fall into bi as I see it! | |||
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"My husband is straight, he has no interest in any sexual contact of any kind with a man. however, if in a play situation another mans leg accidentally brushes his, he is not going to jump out of his skin in horror. We have met couples in the past where the male is bi, as long as everyone knows in advance that male on male contact is NOT on the agenda, then what is the issue?" Exactly, its about guidelines and peoples comfort levels | |||
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"I have to say I agree with the OP about two guys. Ive had 2 guys touching me, i love two different hands, one touching my gspot, one touching my clit but on a normal night at Chams theres not many guys who will do it as they dont seem to want to brush against my guys hand. On bi night its different, men dont mind being touched, and that doesnt mean just the rude bits, but its not a problem if legs brush against each other. My guy is very comfortable with his sexuality and would describe himself as a straight male. He has however sucked guys by himself and with me and him sharing. I think its great that men can be confident enough to do this. Its only a position, it doesnt make you gay, swingings about living the fantasy and trying new things for us. I dont think he would go for full penetrative sex, well not at the moment, maybe in time he will. he will always be a straight male though. I tend to find on bi night that hands will touch any body part, male or female and it adds more spice and fun to the action. Its no worse than two women touching each other. Please excuse my ignorance but if a man enjoys oral play with another man does this not in some way make him bi? Didn't you know? It's similar to not being gay but fucking a guy who is! R Surely that would depend on whether they only fucked gay guys? If they fucked women as well then that would fall into bi as I see it! " It wasn't a serious comment. It's an old analogy based on the irony of the post in question. For example: He's had oral sex with guys and has considered penetrative sex with a male in the future but doesn't consider himself bi. R | |||
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"I have to say I agree with the OP about two guys. Ive had 2 guys touching me, i love two different hands, one touching my gspot, one touching my clit but on a normal night at Chams theres not many guys who will do it as they dont seem to want to brush against my guys hand. On bi night its different, men dont mind being touched, and that doesnt mean just the rude bits, but its not a problem if legs brush against each other. My guy is very comfortable with his sexuality and would describe himself as a straight male. He has however sucked guys by himself and with me and him sharing. I think its great that men can be confident enough to do this. Its only a position, it doesnt make you gay, swingings about living the fantasy and trying new things for us. I dont think he would go for full penetrative sex, well not at the moment, maybe in time he will. he will always be a straight male though. I tend to find on bi night that hands will touch any body part, male or female and it adds more spice and fun to the action. Its no worse than two women touching each other. Please excuse my ignorance but if a man enjoys oral play with another man does this not in some way make him bi? Didn't you know? It's similar to not being gay but fucking a guy who is! R Surely that would depend on whether they only fucked gay guys? If they fucked women as well then that would fall into bi as I see it! It wasn't a serious comment. It's an old analogy based on the irony of the post in question. For example: He's had oral sex with guys and has considered penetrative sex with a male in the future but doesn't consider himself bi. R" You'll drive yourself nuts trying to fathom some of the comments you read on these boards! | |||
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"I'm interested to know what you guys feel I'm bi so its a BIG turn on to feel a man as a well as woman...when we are both inside and can all feel each other! but for a fully str8 guy, and i know you guys exist, whats the buzz? genuine question... What's the buzz if you're straight?! I would imagine quite similar if there was just you in there! Steve is dead straight, hasn't got a problem with DP and doesn't do it to get close to a cock, he does it for the pleasure of the lady and himself! Z" seems us straight guys put the woman first - maybe that's how you tell lol were not selfish hehehe Hi 5 For Steve lol | |||
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"So...when did being straight and having a preference to straight members of the opposite sex become a problem for others?!! People who have personal preferences - whether it be sexuality, religion etc annoy me when they try to press their point of view. Do what you like to who ever you like - allow others their choices. How dare the preferences of others be questioned!! How arrogant would I be to contact someone asking why they didn't want to play with a bbw when they had "slim female" sought on their profile. They need to explain it to me as pussy is pussy...right?!! Wrong!! Their choice! Get over yourselves some of you - you will NEVER be for everyone - concentrate on people who are looking for you, and side step those that are not!! Some people!! " well said . i saw these comments and wondered what the hell i was seeing.(There are no straight men )lol what do you mean by that ?is it a problem now when a man points out that he is straight and not comfortable in some situations.I'M straight and not repressed in any way and not attracted to any male or anything of the same sex nature.I have done 3somes with me and another male and all my focus was on pleasing the woman and having fun.nothing else.if a guy bruhsed against my leg im fine if he strokes it thats a different story.then im not comfortable. | |||
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"I have to say I agree with the OP about two guys. Ive had 2 guys touching me, i love two different hands, one touching my gspot, one touching my clit but on a normal night at Chams theres not many guys who will do it as they dont seem to want to brush against my guys hand. On bi night its different, men dont mind being touched, and that doesnt mean just the rude bits, but its not a problem if legs brush against each other. My guy is very comfortable with his sexuality and would describe himself as a straight male. He has however sucked guys by himself and with me and him sharing. I think its great that men can be confident enough to do this. Its only a position, it doesnt make you gay, swingings about living the fantasy and trying new things for us. I dont think he would go for full penetrative sex, well not at the moment, maybe in time he will. he will always be a straight male though. I tend to find on bi night that hands will touch any body part, male or female and it adds more spice and fun to the action. Its no worse than two women touching each other. Please excuse my ignorance but if a man enjoys oral play with another man does this not in some way make him bi? Didn't you know? It's similar to not being gay but fucking a guy who is! R Surely that would depend on whether they only fucked gay guys? If they fucked women as well then that would fall into bi as I see it! It wasn't a serious comment. It's an old analogy based on the irony of the post in question. For example: He's had oral sex with guys and has considered penetrative sex with a male in the future but doesn't consider himself bi. R You'll drive yourself nuts trying to fathom some of the comments you read on these boards! " I'm confused here .did she say he considers himself to be straight?ok i think he needs to admit what he is and be proud of | |||
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"I have to say I agree with the OP about two guys. Ive had 2 guys touching me, i love two different hands, one touching my gspot, one touching my clit but on a normal night at Chams theres not many guys who will do it as they dont seem to want to brush against my guys hand. On bi night its different, men dont mind being touched, and that doesnt mean just the rude bits, but its not a problem if legs brush against each other. My guy is very comfortable with his sexuality and would describe himself as a straight male. He has however sucked guys by himself and with me and him sharing. I think its great that men can be confident enough to do this. Its only a position, it doesnt make you gay, swingings about living the fantasy and trying new things for us. I dont think he would go for full penetrative sex, well not at the moment, maybe in time he will. he will always be a straight male though. I tend to find on bi night that hands will touch any body part, male or female and it adds more spice and fun to the action. Its no worse than two women touching each other. Please excuse my ignorance but if a man enjoys oral play with another man does this not in some way make him bi? Didn't you know? It's similar to not being gay but fucking a guy who is! R Surely that would depend on whether they only fucked gay guys? If they fucked women as well then that would fall into bi as I see it! It wasn't a serious comment. It's an old analogy based on the irony of the post in question. For example: He's had oral sex with guys and has considered penetrative sex with a male in the future but doesn't consider himself bi. R" Who is the "he" thats being referred to here - as my post was quoted then maybe it was to my guy that you were referring? I didnt say he was considering penetrative sex, so i dont know where thats come from. I said he may want to in the future. He may not. Who knows. Im guessing. Everyone has different perceptions of bisexuality. I dont class myself or him as bisexual because I relate to my sexuality in the real world. Swinging is just a fantasy world. What i do there bears my real meaning to myself in the real world. I have licked other women. I have done so when im swinging. I have never have a relationship with a woman because I am not attracted to women as such. Yeah i think they look sexy but thats it. When im swinging, i may touch or lick a woman, its a spur of the moment thing, whilst I enjoy what im doing, its not something life changing that will alter my sexuality. If i stopped siwnging today then i would never ever touch or lick a woman again, that is why i dont class myself as bisexual. Ill go with the flow on whats happening on the night. My guy is the same. If he stopped swinging today, he wouldnt ever suck another guys cock or be interested sexually in men. He will always have relationships with women. thats why i dont label ourselves as bisexual. other people have different perceptions. If they have licked a woman once they will go out and say, yeah im bi now - well thats up to you what you think, but thats not the way I see it. We are not in denial, we are not ashamed, what happens on a swinging night, stays on the swinging night and has little bearing in my everyday life. | |||
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"I'm a bimale, self labelled. To me, being bi is when you'd take that sexual action outside of swinging and / or have a relationship with the same sex. When I'm not in a relationship, I don't know what sex my next relationship will be, and I don't care. To me, that means I'm bi." Here here (feel like clapping like im in the House of Commons). Thats what I meant, but you put it more eloquently than i did, i just used a hundred words | |||
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"It really seems to be a minefield here, with no one-size-fits-all answer to the "what's bi?" question. All this talk about relationships inside and outside of swinging etc just confuses us... as we see it, if you like any sexual activity with a same-sex partner, whether it's cock sucking or full anal for the guys, snogging or trib and pussy munching for the girls, then you're bi-sexual. End of. If you're thinking of trying it then you're bi-curious. What's the problem? " well said . | |||
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"It's even more complex than that. I was having a MMF threesome once. The guys leg brushed against my leg. When i woke up the next day i was gay. I had caught it off him. " You know you can get tablets for that? Proxysettlingantigay. | |||
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" The same men tend to be the ones who play team sports. You know "all boys together" type thing. Loads of male company. Loads of bonding and going to the gym. Showering naked with other men twice or thrice weekly. The kind of men who have "real" mates. The kind of men who tend to be a bit misogynistic and have difficulty with relationships. But they are not gay. Oh no. No way. Straight as a die, mate. And always REALLY keen to point that out. Jusy in case you thought.... But you didnt. Because they arent. No way. Nor do they understand the meaning of the word "repressed". Because they don't have a dictionary in the house. Because that would be a bit, well, gay..." haha funny | |||
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"Yes this is a swinging site and we are interested in meeting couples. They dont have to be bi, we are not essentially looking for bi, we are just looking to have fun with another couple. That does not mean we all have to be bi, so therefore thats why we havent advertised that. Our bi experiences have happened on a specific bi night at a club, it basically just happened. I am very proud of who i am, our profile states what we are looking for. If we were looking for same sex play all the time we would say it. I cant understand why it offends you so much. I can say on my profile what I like cant I!!! " It's certainly not offending me, each to their own and all that, but its certainly confusing me, there'e a huge difference, please don't mix up the two, or start throwing homophobic labels around just because someone asks why people who enjoy playing with the same sex say they are straight. Why do people get so uptight and defensive over being asked a simple question | |||
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"Beware us bimen! We are all effeminate queens and we meet couples only to get near a man, we wait patiently and then, when the moment is right you think we are aiming for wife and "SORRY SLIPPED (kinda nice tho eh?! EH!?!)". " Is THAT what those goggles are for?! | |||
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"Beware us bimen! We are all effeminate queens and we meet couples only to get near a man, we wait patiently and then, when the moment is right you think we are aiming for wife and "SORRY SLIPPED (kinda nice tho eh?! EH!?!)". Is THAT what those goggles are for?! " Indeed, one has a viewfinder to make it easier to discern passageways, and they are tinted so I can make the "mistake" | |||
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"Beware us bimen! We are all effeminate queens and we meet couples only to get near a man, we wait patiently and then, when the moment is right you think we are aiming for wife and "SORRY SLIPPED (kinda nice tho eh?! EH!?!)". Is THAT what those goggles are for?! Indeed, one has a viewfinder to make it easier to discern passageways, and they are tinted so I can make the "mistake"" SHHH!!! You're giving away all our "gay" secrets. Next you'll be telling them how we shag them in the ass when they're not expecting it and then swear them to secrecy. "Your wife didnt notice and I won't tell if you don't...but if you complain i'll tell everyone you ASKED for it and REALLY liked it..." | |||
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"How i see it, i have explained how i think of bisexuality and i know me and my man are not bisexual. We have had spur of the moment encounters with the same sex. I have explained this about 6 or 7 times on this site and people keep putting comments like "good luck with the denial". So its not just asking a question is it, i am answering the question with my views and im getting people coming back and telling me im wrong " Unfortunately it's the nature of some of the people on this forum to do this. | |||
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"How i see it, i have explained how i think of bisexuality and i know me and my man are not bisexual. We have had spur of the moment encounters with the same sex. I have explained this about 6 or 7 times on this site and people keep putting comments like "good luck with the denial". So its not just asking a question is it, i am answering the question with my views and im getting people coming back and telling me im wrong " It's not for us to change your opinion, but if is confusing to some (and I admit to being confused by your post) do you then think of maybe re wording your profile? You and your partner may find a lot more pleasurable meets from men who may 'in the spur of the moment' focus efforts on your partner? | |||
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" But i'm a big fat Gay - watched a local "pride" march last summer, think i caught it there. " Are you the only gay in the forums, then? | |||
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"Sensual have you forgotton how to use the quote button? You're confusing me and yes before you say I know it does'nt take a lot Oh im Bi I think I caught it from watching carry on films" I was trying to confine my comment to the relevant passage of text from the previous poster, rather than the whole thing. I aplogise profusely for my fussiness regarding my use of the English Language. It's a Gay thing. | |||
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" "if when you swing you play with both sexes then on here should you not dscribe yoursel as bi? What you would be in you private life is of no concern to members of a swingers site. SO your sexuality in daily life is not under scrutiny" Not necesarrily - Because as can be seen from various posts on this thread, people will interperate "straight", "bicurious", "bisexual" or "gay" in the way THEY want to. Which will not always (if ever) be the same as the way you interperet it yourself. And the reason that threads on the subject of male sexuality run longer than a Kenyan in an Olypic final is, primarily, fear. But i'm a big fat Gay - watched a local "pride" march last summer, think i caught it there. " Valid point but 'catching' of your sexulity remarks seem strange. Without wanting to appear rude, I do not think, and also hope thst nobody in the thread feared contracting this. You may simply enjoy playing with men when swinging and as many will not know you away from this site would then consider you to be gay. If in your private life you have a wife and kids, and picket fence outside to your neighbours you be a hetrosexual male. I rerspect your openess, but feel that we should all take a leaf out of your book and enjoy the pesona we create for ourselv es on here | |||
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"This often seems to happen in forums, someone asks a perfectly reasonable question and then some people seem to think that asking a question is an order, an insult or some convoluted way of trying to change their mind or saying that their way is wrong. FFS someone only asked a question that turns into a debate GREAT, that’s what forums are for. Why do some try and turn it into a fight!!! Don’t know about anyone else but I haven’t seen the phrase ‘You are wrong *insert username*’ in this thread so far. Human sexuality is a truly fascinating subject matter that even the top psychologist on the planet couldn’t provide all the answers to it, and so invoking a debate on the subject on a site like this may actually provide some real answers and insight. Long live freedom of speech… yeah right! " Couldn't have put it better myself!! Some people take every post personally and seem to want you to justify your own preferences. I don't care less what other people put on their profile, and if they're in denial about their sexuality that is also none of my business, however, it's the assumption that there's ambiguity surrounding other peoples sexuality just because they're not honest about theirs. Within swinging, outside swinging, every other Tuesday, months with "e" in them...I'm straight - why is THAT a problem for some?!! | |||
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" "if when you swing you play with both sexes then on here should you not dscribe yoursel as bi? What you would be in you private life is of no concern to members of a swingers site. SO your sexuality in daily life is not under scrutiny" Not necesarrily - Because as can be seen from various posts on this thread, people will interperate "straight", "bicurious", "bisexual" or "gay" in the way THEY want to. Which will not always (if ever) be the same as the way you interperet it yourself. And the reason that threads on the subject of male sexuality run longer than a Kenyan in an Olypic final is, primarily, fear. But i'm a big fat Gay - watched a local "pride" march last summer, think i caught it there. " You seem to have a thing about catching things! | |||
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" "if when you swing you play with both sexes then on here should you not dscribe yoursel as bi? What you would be in you private life is of no concern to members of a swingers site. SO your sexuality in daily life is not under scrutiny" Not necesarrily - Because as can be seen from various posts on this thread, people will interperate "straight", "bicurious", "bisexual" or "gay" in the way THEY want to. Which will not always (if ever) be the same as the way you interperet it yourself. And the reason that threads on the subject of male sexuality run longer than a Kenyan in an Olypic final is, primarily, fear. But i'm a big fat Gay - watched a local "pride" march last summer, think i caught it there. You seem to have a thing about catching things!" | |||
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"Hey everybody. Take some time and have a laugh with me. Go to the top of this thread. Read through the posts. Everytime you see "bicurious", "bisexual" or "gay" (or their abbreviations) - substitute them with "black", "asian", or "jewish". Oh and for "straight" substitute "racist" or "nazi" You get the idea. Go on, it'll be REALLY funny. Only it won't. I'm not Gay. I'm straight. But i'll suck a cock now again if it takes my fancy. It doesnt make me gay. It makes me more of a man than you. " It would be so easy to sweep this thread up, drop it into a word processor, automatically replace the words as you suggest and then paste it back in here… and then see how long it takes for me to get banned from the site! Although it won’t matter if I get banned as I doubt I’ll have access to FAB from a prison cell having been locked up for inciting racial hatred or something on a theme. | |||
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"Hey everybody. Take some time and have a laugh with me. Go to the top of this thread. Read through the posts. Everytime you see "bicurious", "bisexual" or "gay" (or their abbreviations) - substitute them with "black", "asian", or "jewish". Oh and for "straight" substitute "racist" or "nazi" You get the idea. Go on, it'll be REALLY funny. Only it won't. I'm not Gay. I'm straight. But i'll suck a cock now again if it takes my fancy. It doesnt make me gay. It makes me more of a man than you. " Wonders why when male sexuality - no matter what the guise is - it's always compared to racism at some point. As if picking and choosing when you suck cock is along the same lines of picking and choosing what colour your skin will be today!! Oh well...hmmm...since I'm on a swinging site at the moment..."tonight Matthew I want to be...oriental". | |||
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"I'm straight - why is THAT a problem for some?!! You freak. " I know, but I thought I'd be able to share that part of me with you all! | |||
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"Hey everybody. Take some time and have a laugh with me. Go to the top of this thread. Read through the posts. Everytime you see "bicurious", "bisexual" or "gay" (or their abbreviations) - substitute them with "black", "asian", or "jewish". Oh and for "straight" substitute "racist" or "nazi" You get the idea. Go on, it'll be REALLY funny. Only it won't. I'm not Gay. I'm straight. But i'll suck a cock now again if it takes my fancy. It doesnt make me gay. It makes me more of a man than you. Wonders why when male sexuality - no matter what the guise is - it's always compared to racism at some point. As if picking and choosing when you suck cock is along the same lines of picking ng what colour your skin will be today!! Oh well...hmmm...since I'm on a swinging site at the moment..."tonight Matthew I want to be...oriental". " | |||
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"Oh well...hmmm...since I'm on a swinging site at the moment..."tonight Matthew I want to be...oriental". " Ta daaaaaaa!!!!!! | |||
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"Why do we need to label ourselves? If you are straight and have some bi fun in the heat of the moment do you have to label yourself as bi? After that one off bi act are you now bi the rest of your life even if you never play with another member of the same sex? I describe myself as bi playful because with likeminded others i will play but if I want to, not because I have an uncontrollable need to have some cock!! I think you should be able to class yourself as what you want, like some say, freedom of speech. And what's wrong with some being able to dabble?" I may have missed one, but I haven't seen a post that says people can't "dabble". Some people seem confused - and it's not my place to unconfuse them, they are free to do what they want. My problem is those that seem confused seem help bent on trying to confuse the rest of us or suggest if you claim to be staight you're in denial. However, they of course are not in denial...completely letting the irony of the situation fly over their heads! Really, what people do or don't do is not my business...but I repeat...I'm straight...and I'm proud!! | |||
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"There are some real differing opinions on here, and I do not have a definate answer to this just my opinion. I will happily play in the same room or will be included in the act of pleasuing a lady at the same time as another man. During the act I do not welcome sexual contact with anotther man, and do not intend to physically satisfy or be satisfied by another man. I expect the scenario to be as pleasurable for the man if he is involved but would not suck, or entertain a mans cock for my own pleasure. If a potential meet depended on me doing so, I would kindly turn it down. If I did consider it, I would label myself as bi-curious, if I felt the urge to do it and did I would be bisexual, if I did it and decided to ignore playing with women I would be homosexual. We can't ignore labels when we rely on them for selection purposes. As we are merely focusing on the picture potrayed on here, and as swingers, if when you swing you play with both sexes then on here should you not dscribe yoursel as bi? What you would be in you private life is of no concern to members of a swingers site. SO your sexuality in daily life is not under scrutiny." Exactly......spot on! | |||
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"Hey everybody. Take some time and have a laugh with me. Go to the top of this thread. Read through the posts. Everytime you see "bicurious", "bisexual" or "gay" (or their abbreviations) - substitute them with "black", "asian", or "jewish". Oh and for "straight" substitute "racist" or "nazi" You get the idea. Go on, it'll be REALLY funny. Only it won't. I'm not Gay. I'm straight. But i'll suck a cock now again if it takes my fancy. It doesnt make me gay. It makes me more of a man than you. Wonders why when male sexuality - no matter what the guise is - it's always compared to racism at some point. As if picking and choosing when you suck cock is along the same lines of picking and choosing what colour your skin will be today!! Oh well...hmmm...since I'm on a swinging site at the moment..."tonight Matthew I want to be...oriental". " The point was, and is this; It's not what YOUR preferences are. They are your preferences and it's up to you what they are. It's how people (and i'm not suggesting you are one of them) treat people who have DIFFERENT preferences to their own which is at issue. Wanna be straigh?, Be straight. Wanna be bi? Be bi. Wanna be gay? Be gay. Wanna judge others because their preferences are different to yours and have a "pecking order" (pun not intended, but it ain't a bad one...) of sexual preferences? No thanks. | |||
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"Hey everybody. Take some time and have a laugh with me. Go to the top of this thread. Read through the posts. Everytime you see "bicurious", "bisexual" or "gay" (or their abbreviations) - substitute them with "black", "asian", or "jewish". Oh and for "straight" substitute "racist" or "nazi" You get the idea. Go on, it'll be REALLY funny. Only it won't. I'm not Gay. I'm straight. But i'll suck a cock now again if it takes my fancy. It doesnt make me gay. It makes me more of a man than you. Wonders why when male sexuality - no matter what the guise is - it's always compared to racism at some point. As if picking and choosing when you suck cock is along the same lines of picking and choosing what colour your skin will be today!! Oh well...hmmm...since I'm on a swinging site at the moment..."tonight Matthew I want to be...oriental". " fair point.think this guy is living in his own world.if you fancy sucking a cock now and then lol | |||
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"We have no problem whatsoever with other peoples sexuality,whether it be gay,bi,bi curious or straight. The problem we have is with people not being honest about it. All this "spur of the moment" twaddle is just that. I'm straight and because I'm straight there's nothing in the world that would induce me to suck or wank another guy on the "spur of the moment". Why do people feel the need to use "labels"? Simple,forget calling it "labels",how about just calling it "honesty"? Swinging is all about meeting people based on the honesty of the information supplied by others. If people aren't willing to be honest the whole concept fails. XXXX " thank you well said | |||
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""fair point.think this guy is living in his own world.if you fancy sucking a cock now and then" Better my world than yours my friend. Whats wrong with wanting to do something "now and then" as oppossed to all the time. Are there things you do in your life maybe a couple of times a year, and other thingfs your do every week? Why don't you do all of them all thre time then? Or the things you do a couple of times a year - why don't you just not do them atall, you're obviously not that into them? You seem to live your life in strange way - by your own definition. You should try "intelligence" now and then. " lol now you are taking it personal.attacking my intelligence is not the way to go .you should check your grammar when you are trying to make a point.from my intelligence and common knowledge that we all get an understanding from and where we get the definintions for bisexual ,straight ,homosexual.and the rest.it just seems as if some people want to put a twist on it to suite what they do and that i find can be confusing.lastly I was not pointing out the doing stuff now and then ,I was referring to what you were talking about doing now and then. its your life but since we are having a discussion lets discuss. | |||
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"There’s nothing worse than people being belittled for having a different opinion, think this has now gone past the discussion stage and entering the very personal stage." It's not personal, far from it. It's just not going anywhere unless we get the level of debate up to a certain standard. Which we won't. People being belittled for having a different opinion? Wouldnt that be like people being belittled for having a different sexual preferences? | |||
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