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"Interesting. We are Asian but don't divulge any more beyond this through choice for personal reason. We are open minded as diversity is great once it is understood and stating a preference can limit opportunity to explore and learn. But ultimately everyone make a choice based on their own experiences and perceptions and some probably may not give much thought to the wording or may have omitted deliberately as a filter." Obviously sexual preferences can be wide or very narrow. If someone says "I prefer", my reaction is they would ideally want that but open to other suggestions. If they say "only", then that's what they want without any deviations. | |||
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"Over analysing either the choices or preferences of others is utterly pointless. Only they will know why they choose/prefer something over something else. A" well said. I think sometimes it's easier just to ask (message) that someone, then try to analyse. | |||
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"I have white, straight, single, local, tall men only on my profile because I use this site for fantasy playmates and that's my fantasy. If people with far too much time on their hands wish to read more into it than that, nothing I can do about that so I'll happily continue with my choices!" What's a "fantasy playmate" if I may enquire? | |||
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"One of the most, to my mind, misused words on Fab is the word 'preference'. Now I 'prefer' Caucasian women. That is NOT to say I won't meet black, Asian or Malaysian women etc. Just that I prefer them. I 'prefer' brunettes. That is not to say I can't find, or don't find, blondes or redheads attractive. I do. Jane is blonde! I prefer curves, long hair, big tits and so on. Basically, though, none of my preferences exclude anyone. We are all familiar with the assertion by those who say No Whites/Blacks/Asians or ONLY Whites/Blacks (never seen a profile saying only Asians) that it is their preference. Surely the exclusion makes it more of a personal choice rather than the usual preferences we all have? If someone says black men ONLY, why the 'only'? Does this mean that the person in question finds not one other man of any other race attractive? And how do you define 'black' anyway? If someone is mixed race (as another poster on another thread wondered) are they 'in' or 'out' when someone says blacks only? Surely a profile stating 'I prefer black men' is giving a preference - but not one which excludes others? So, when profiles state "Whites only," are they not providing others with their choice, rather than giving a preference? And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" Why is it sinister to only meet people you're attracted to? | |||
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"One of the most, to my mind, misused words on Fab is the word 'preference'. Now I 'prefer' Caucasian women. That is NOT to say I won't meet black, Asian or Malaysian women etc. Just that I prefer them. I 'prefer' brunettes. That is not to say I can't find, or don't find, blondes or redheads attractive. I do. Jane is blonde! I prefer curves, long hair, big tits and so on. Basically, though, none of my preferences exclude anyone. We are all familiar with the assertion by those who say No Whites/Blacks/Asians or ONLY Whites/Blacks (never seen a profile saying only Asians) that it is their preference. Surely the exclusion makes it more of a personal choice rather than the usual preferences we all have? If someone says black men ONLY, why the 'only'? Does this mean that the person in question finds not one other man of any other race attractive? And how do you define 'black' anyway? If someone is mixed race (as another poster on another thread wondered) are they 'in' or 'out' when someone says blacks only? Surely a profile stating 'I prefer black men' is giving a preference - but not one which excludes others? So, when profiles state "Whites only," are they not providing others with their choice, rather than giving a preference? And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps? Why is it sinister to only meet people you're attracted to? " If you are ONLY ever attracted to black men for example, are those people seriously saying they find NO white people, Asians, Malaysians etc attractive? If so, yes that could be sinister. Could be a sign that they are racist! Which is sinister! | |||
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"I have white, straight, single, local, tall men only on my profile because I use this site for fantasy playmates and that's my fantasy. If people with far too much time on their hands wish to read more into it than that, nothing I can do about that so I'll happily continue with my choices! What's a "fantasy playmate" if I may enquire? " I only meet for D/s play. My subs all fit what I'm looking for to enable me to fulfill my fantasy...I don't think I need to elaborate further. | |||
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"I have white, straight, single, local, tall men only on my profile because I use this site for fantasy playmates and that's my fantasy. If people with far too much time on their hands wish to read more into it than that, nothing I can do about that so I'll happily continue with my choices!" I don't share your preference but wholeheartedly agree with your opinion well said | |||
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"One of the most, to my mind, misused words on Fab is the word 'preference'. Now I 'prefer' Caucasian women. That is NOT to say I won't meet black, Asian or Malaysian women etc. Just that I prefer them. I 'prefer' brunettes. That is not to say I can't find, or don't find, blondes or redheads attractive. I do. Jane is blonde! I prefer curves, long hair, big tits and so on. Basically, though, none of my preferences exclude anyone. We are all familiar with the assertion by those who say No Whites/Blacks/Asians or ONLY Whites/Blacks (never seen a profile saying only Asians) that it is their preference. Surely the exclusion makes it more of a personal choice rather than the usual preferences we all have? If someone says black men ONLY, why the 'only'? Does this mean that the person in question finds not one other man of any other race attractive? And how do you define 'black' anyway? If someone is mixed race (as another poster on another thread wondered) are they 'in' or 'out' when someone says blacks only? Surely a profile stating 'I prefer black men' is giving a preference - but not one which excludes others? So, when profiles state "Whites only," are they not providing others with their choice, rather than giving a preference? And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps? Why is it sinister to only meet people you're attracted to? If you are ONLY ever attracted to black men for example, are those people seriously saying they find NO white people, Asians, Malaysians etc attractive? If so, yes that could be sinister. Could be a sign that they are racist! Which is sinister!" To you! There was a couple who posted they didn't meet black people. Not only didn't they meet black people they didn't meet anyone who had met black people and did forensic searches through verifications, checked and cross checked to ensure that no one they encountered had had any sexual contact with a black person: now that is sinister! Now I don't meet "disabled" men for example. If I were meeting for "vanilla" sex, if I fancied the person: hell yes, but I don't. I meet for "extreme" D/s play. My playroom is on the third floor. I have hooks and brackets etc...how I like to play would be a challenge and not fit how I want to play. There's nothing sinister in that! | |||
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"One of the most, to my mind, misused words on Fab is the word 'preference'. Now I 'prefer' Caucasian women. That is NOT to say I won't meet black, Asian or Malaysian women etc. Just that I prefer them. I 'prefer' brunettes. That is not to say I can't find, or don't find, blondes or redheads attractive. I do. Jane is blonde! I prefer curves, long hair, big tits and so on. Basically, though, none of my preferences exclude anyone. There was a couple who posted they didn't meet black people. Not only didn't they meet black people they didn't meet anyone who had met black people and did forensic searches through verifications, checked and cross checked to ensure that no one they encountered had had any sexual contact with a black person: now that is sinister! " Very sinister. Yes. But you are ok with the first part, i.e. that they didn't meet black people? Is that ok? | |||
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"I don't think sexual preference has anything to do with discrimination/racism. It's just how we are. I do prefer UK/European and Latin women, that's my personal preference. Saying that, I have seen different very attractive (to me) women, not necessarily fitting my preferences." Which was my original point. Now, why do you not post "ONLY UK/European and Latin women"? | |||
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"One of the most, to my mind, misused words on Fab is the word 'preference'. Now I 'prefer' Caucasian women. That is NOT to say I won't meet black, Asian or Malaysian women etc. Just that I prefer them. I 'prefer' brunettes. That is not to say I can't find, or don't find, blondes or redheads attractive. I do. Jane is blonde! I prefer curves, long hair, big tits and so on. Basically, though, none of my preferences exclude anyone. We are all familiar with the assertion by those who say No Whites/Blacks/Asians or ONLY Whites/Blacks (never seen a profile saying only Asians) that it is their preference. Surely the exclusion makes it more of a personal choice rather than the usual preferences we all have? If someone says black men ONLY, why the 'only'? Does this mean that the person in question finds not one other man of any other race attractive? And how do you define 'black' anyway? If someone is mixed race (as another poster on another thread wondered) are they 'in' or 'out' when someone says blacks only? Surely a profile stating 'I prefer black men' is giving a preference - but not one which excludes others? So, when profiles state "Whites only," are they not providing others with their choice, rather than giving a preference? And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" Actually, I think you are missing a point. For MANY people, sites like this are for fulfilling fantasies and desires, not for making mates (regardless of what the forumites have you think) and this is when a "choice" is simply that, it doesn't have to become an "ism" or anything. It simply means "For the use I want of this site, this is my preference and choice". Example (made up). We have a preference for short fat guys and have made a choice never to meet a black guy. You MAY interpret this as racism but perhaps it's just the bounds of our fantasy, to meet a short fat guy who isn't black? | |||
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"For the purposes of fab only I'm only interested in meeting black guys. From what you are saying that makes it a choice rather than a preference. ....But it isn't as straightforward as that. I'm not saying that i only find black guys attractive,as I'm married to a white guy, but for what i want on here,at this moment in time, is an attractive black guy or guys because that is my preference of the moment and therefore my choice. This is my fantasy life that is part of enhancing the sex life of me and my husband. Why should others concern themselves with that or get upset if i want to exclude those I'm not looking to have sex with? I think those that rummage through the verifications to check that people haven't met black people for example are taking things too far. I don't see how that could be anything other than racist." Ah, the first lady in my HOT LIST. As always, you are clever and thorough. Agree, mostly, but... how can a sexual preference be ONLY towards a person with a certain skin colour? | |||
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"Example (made up). We have a preference for short fat guys and have made a choice never to meet a black guy. You MAY interpret this as racism but perhaps it's just the bounds of our fantasy, to meet a short fat guy who isn't black?" What if you meet a person matching that criteria once, twice, etc. etc? Do you still get attached to that criteria only? | |||
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"For the purposes of fab only I'm only interested in meeting black guys. From what you are saying that makes it a choice rather than a preference. ....But it isn't as straightforward as that. I'm not saying that i only find black guys attractive,as I'm married to a white guy, but for what i want on here,at this moment in time, is an attractive black guy or guys because that is my preference of the moment and therefore my choice. This is my fantasy life that is part of enhancing the sex life of me and my husband. Why should others concern themselves with that or get upset if i want to exclude those I'm not looking to have sex with? I think those that rummage through the verifications to check that people haven't met black people for example are taking things too far. I don't see how that could be anything other than racist. Ah, the first lady in my HOT LIST. As always, you are clever and thorough. Agree, mostly, but... how can a sexual preference be ONLY towards a person with a certain skin colour?" Because that is what i want. ....at the moment. I'm not saying i only ever want to have sex with black guys ever again. Just at the moment i have a particular attraction for black guys so that is what will fulfil my needs. For now. | |||
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"I don't think sexual preference has anything to do with discrimination/racism. It's just how we are. I do prefer UK/European and Latin women, that's my personal preference. Saying that, I have seen different very attractive (to me) women, not necessarily fitting my preferences. Which was my original point. Now, why do you not post "ONLY UK/European and Latin women"?" Exactly I think some people have strong looks preferences (e.g. I want this tall/short, this colour, this complexion etc) Some others have more varied preferences, like myself. E.g. someone we could click with, intellectually interesting, pleasant, and good on the eye ) | |||
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"Example (made up). We have a preference for short fat guys and have made a choice never to meet a black guy. You MAY interpret this as racism but perhaps it's just the bounds of our fantasy, to meet a short fat guy who isn't black? What if you meet a person matching that criteria once, twice, etc. etc? Do you still get attached to that criteria only?" Maybe, maybe not. But the point is, it doesn't matter. it's also important to note that profiles can be changed. Just because you read wording A on Day 6, it doesn't mean it'll be there on Day 8. Everything on fab should be considered a state of flux. | |||
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"Because that is what i want. ....at the moment. I'm not saying i only ever want to have sex with black guys ever again. Just at the moment i have a particular attraction for black guys so that is what will fulfil my needs. For now." A star like you should always get what she wants. Me, you know who/what I am attracted to currently... that shape is just totally fantastic. | |||
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"Because that is what i want. ....at the moment. I'm not saying i only ever want to have sex with black guys ever again. Just at the moment i have a particular attraction for black guys so that is what will fulfil my needs. For now. A star like you should always get what she wants. Me, you know who/what I am attracted to currently... that shape is just totally fantastic." I can see why you chose your username Thank you x | |||
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"As I stated in another thread, having a preference for your own racial group is an innate trait. Why? Simple really. Assuming the OOA theory is correct humans dispersed from Africa some 40-100k years ago. What took place then was breeding within populations that eventually gave us groups of humans in geographicallocations with different phenotypes. With all those years of breeding comes a strong urge for the MAJORITY (note I did not say all) to prefer their own group, after all we need two Chinese people to have sex in order to make more Chinese people. Anything else is a fetish, and not everyone has that fetish. Stop brow beating and coercing everyone to participate in race mixing (by using the racist card) just because it's your fetish. " So why is an Irishman mixing with non-Irish? | |||
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"As I stated in another thread, having a preference for your own racial group is an innate trait. Why? Simple really. Assuming the OOA theory is correct humans dispersed from Africa some 40-100k years ago. What took place then was breeding within populations that eventually gave us groups of humans in geographicallocations with different phenotypes. With all those years of breeding comes a strong urge for the MAJORITY (note I did not say all) to prefer their own group, after all we need two Chinese people to have sex in order to make more Chinese people. Anything else is a fetish, and not everyone has that fetish. Stop brow beating and coercing everyone to participate in race mixing (by using the racist card) just because it's your fetish. So why is an Irishman mixing with non-Irish?" You think the Irish just grew out of the soil over there in Ireland or maybe just maybe my ancestors came from northern Europe. What do you think eh? | |||
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"Wondered when this question would arise. Our request is for mixed and black single men which is different to what we choose in "real life" as both of us don't pick who we want(ed) to be in a relationship of whatever kind with, however, it's different for here. Our rules are different, we're not looking for a relationship, acquitences we like but not relationships. I (him) want to see her with black or mixed race guys (black/white) why? Because this is the group I identify myself with personally...." So let me get this right, you are Black and by your own admission you identify with black people but you have a White wife and like to see her f%%ked only by other non Whites. No racial aspect to any of that at all is there | |||
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"Wondered when this question would arise. Our request is for mixed and black single men which is different to what we choose in "real life" as both of us don't pick who we want(ed) to be in a relationship of whatever kind with, however, it's different for here. Our rules are different, we're not looking for a relationship, acquitences we like but not relationships. I (him) want to see her with black or mixed race guys (black/white) why? Because this is the group I identify myself with personally.... So let me get this right, you are Black and by your own admission you identify with black people but you have a White wife and like to see her f%%ked only by other non Whites. No racial aspect to any of that at all is there " You're mistaken my friend. I said I identify myself with black and mixed race guys. I am mostly black with white English, brought up in a white English environment. Where did I say only non whites? In a one to one situation I like the aspect of identification as I cannot see myself having sex with her from, live, that is the draw for me/us in that scenario. In a couple scenario we don't mind at all as the reasons for that particular scenario are very different, perculiar you may say but that's how it is. Is there anything else you'd like me to clarify that you don't understand? More than happy to. | |||
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"Wondered when this question would arise. Our request is for mixed and black single men which is different to what we choose in "real life" as both of us don't pick who we want(ed) to be in a relationship of whatever kind with, however, it's different for here. Our rules are different, we're not looking for a relationship, acquitences we like but not relationships. I (him) want to see her with black or mixed race guys (black/white) why? Because this is the group I identify myself with personally.... So let me get this right, you are Black and by your own admission you identify with black people but you have a White wife and like to see her f%%ked only by other non Whites. No racial aspect to any of that at all is there You're mistaken my friend. I said I identify myself with black and mixed race guys. I am mostly black with white English, brought up in a white English environment. Where did I say only non whites? In a one to one situation I like the aspect of identification as I cannot see myself having sex with her from, live, that is the draw for me/us in that scenario. In a couple scenario we don't mind at all as the reasons for that particular scenario are very different, perculiar you may say but that's how it is. Is there anything else you'd like me to clarify that you don't understand? More than happy to. " But I am willing to bet that in these couple scenarios the majority of the time the woman just so happens to be another White woman. In those instances you will loosen up on your non White only mandate. | |||
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"As I stated in another thread, having a preference for your own racial group is an innate trait. Why? Simple really. Assuming the OOA theory is correct humans dispersed from Africa some 40-100k years ago. What took place then was breeding within populations that eventually gave us groups of humans in geographicallocations with different phenotypes. With all those years of breeding comes a strong urge for the MAJORITY (note I did not say all) to prefer their own group, after all we need two Chinese people to have sex in order to make more Chinese people. Anything else is a fetish, and not everyone has that fetish. Stop brow beating and coercing everyone to participate in race mixing (by using the racist card) just because it's your fetish. So why is an Irishman mixing with non-Irish? You think the Irish just grew out of the soil over there in Ireland or maybe just maybe my ancestors came from northern Europe. What do you think eh?" I think by your own statement, you said that our ancestors came from Africa. For procreation purposes we may (but not in all cases) be attracted to people that match our phenotypes. To cross the boundary for recreational sex is not a fetish, but a preference. It isn't being forced upon people. Race mixing as you so crudely put it would only occur outside of swinging. You are a product of race mixing, otherwise you would have grown out of the ground. Unless you are a red-headed, blue eyed pure Celt. | |||
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"In a one to one situation I like the aspect of identification as I cannot see myself having sex with her from, live, that is the draw for me/us in that scenario. In a couple scenario we don't mind at all as the reasons for that particular scenario are very different, perculiar you may say but that's how it is. " The point of any scenario is sex/erotica isn't it If the other half (who is actually having the sex) enjoys the sex and attention, what difference does a skin colour make? | |||
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"As I stated in another thread, having a preference for your own racial group is an innate trait. Why? Simple really. Assuming the OOA theory is correct humans dispersed from Africa some 40-100k years ago. What took place then was breeding within populations that eventually gave us groups of humans in geographicallocations with different phenotypes. With all those years of breeding comes a strong urge for the MAJORITY (note I did not say all) to prefer their own group, after all we need two Chinese people to have sex in order to make more Chinese people. Anything else is a fetish, and not everyone has that fetish. Stop brow beating and coercing everyone to participate in race mixing (by using the racist card) just because it's your fetish. So why is an Irishman mixing with non-Irish? You think the Irish just grew out of the soil over there in Ireland or maybe just maybe my ancestors came from northern Europe. What do you think eh? I think by your own statement, you said that our ancestors came from Africa. For procreation purposes we may (but not in all cases) be attracted to people that match our phenotypes. To cross the boundary for recreational sex is not a fetish, but a preference. It isn't being forced upon people. Race mixing as you so crudely put it would only occur outside of swinging. You are a product of race mixing, otherwise you would have grown out of the ground. Unless you are a red-headed, blue eyed pure Celt." I can't have a serious conversation with someone who has such a poor understand of evolution and European tribes. | |||
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"Wondered when this question would arise. Our request is for mixed and black single men which is different to what we choose in "real life" as both of us don't pick who we want(ed) to be in a relationship of whatever kind with, however, it's different for here. Our rules are different, we're not looking for a relationship, acquitences we like but not relationships. I (him) want to see her with black or mixed race guys (black/white) why? Because this is the group I identify myself with personally.... So let me get this right, you are Black and by your own admission you identify with black people but you have a White wife and like to see her f%%ked only by other non Whites. No racial aspect to any of that at all is there You're mistaken my friend. I said I identify myself with black and mixed race guys. I am mostly black with white English, brought up in a white English environment. Where did I say only non whites? In a one to one situation I like the aspect of identification as I cannot see myself having sex with her from, live, that is the draw for me/us in that scenario. In a couple scenario we don't mind at all as the reasons for that particular scenario are very different, perculiar you may say but that's how it is. Is there anything else you'd like me to clarify that you don't understand? More than happy to. But I am willing to bet that in these couple scenarios the majority of the time the woman just so happens to be another White woman. In those instances you will loosen up on your non White only mandate." Just stop with this already. We said we come into that scenario with non identifying aspects and already said it doesn't come into it, it's there in black and white. Now I have no idea whether the majority will be white depends upon who we click with. As for the mandate, again I will say it's an identification aspect that is brought to the mf meet with me watching, that's what is wanted from those meets, it may develop into other areas of our play it may not but that's what it is right now. If you're thinking that I get my kicks out of the fact I want to see just white women then you're barking up the wrong tree and waay off base. I think from our exchanges it shows, me anyway, that it really isn't possible to pigeon hole people, well not all, too many variants, wants, needs etc., but enjoying the way you're putting your assumptions together. Gotta love discussion and dialogue with the variety of angles that it comes from. | |||
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"In a one to one situation I like the aspect of identification as I cannot see myself having sex with her from, live, that is the draw for me/us in that scenario. In a couple scenario we don't mind at all as the reasons for that particular scenario are very different, perculiar you may say but that's how it is. The point of any scenario is sex/erotica isn't it If the other half (who is actually having the sex) enjoys the sex and attention, what difference does a skin colour make?" I'm identifying with the male in that scenario, you can't see how that could possibly work? Please say more than just it's a man fucking a woman. Thanks. | |||
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"The point of any scenario is sex/erotica isn't it If the other half (who is actually having the sex) enjoys the sex and attention, what difference does a skin colour make? I'm identifying with the male in that scenario, you can't see how that could possibly work? Please say more than just it's a man fucking a woman. Thanks." Of course it's not | |||
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"One of the most, to my mind, misused words on Fab is the word 'preference'. Now I 'prefer' Caucasian women. That is NOT to say I won't meet black, Asian or Malaysian women etc. Just that I prefer them. I 'prefer' brunettes. That is not to say I can't find, or don't find, blondes or redheads attractive. I do. Jane is blonde! I prefer curves, long hair, big tits and so on. Basically, though, none of my preferences exclude anyone. We are all familiar with the assertion by those who say No Whites/Blacks/Asians or ONLY Whites/Blacks (never seen a profile saying only Asians) that it is their preference. Surely the exclusion makes it more of a personal choice rather than the usual preferences we all have? If someone says black men ONLY, why the 'only'? Does this mean that the person in question finds not one other man of any other race attractive? And how do you define 'black' anyway? If someone is mixed race (as another poster on another thread wondered) are they 'in' or 'out' when someone says blacks only? Surely a profile stating 'I prefer black men' is giving a preference - but not one which excludes others? So, when profiles state "Whites only," are they not providing others with their choice, rather than giving a preference? And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps? Why is it sinister to only meet people you're attracted to? If you are ONLY ever attracted to black men for example, are those people seriously saying they find NO white people, Asians, Malaysians etc attractive? If so, yes that could be sinister. Could be a sign that they are racist! Which is sinister!" Cool then I am racist. In your eyes, not mine. | |||
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"I have white, straight, single, local, tall men only on my profile because I use this site for fantasy playmates and that's my fantasy. If people with far too much time on their hands wish to read more into it than that, nothing I can do about that so I'll happily continue with my choices!" | |||
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"Gotta love discussion and dialogue with the variety of angles that it comes from. Btw, Mrs is very sexy!! Like her" | |||
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" And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps? Why is it sinister to only meet people you're attracted to? If you are ONLY ever attracted to black men for example, are those people seriously saying they find NO white people, Asians, Malaysians etc attractive? If so, yes that could be sinister. Could be a sign that they are racist! Which is sinister! Cool then I am racist. In your eyes, not mine. " Dont worry I'm racist in their eyes too, not mine. I'm happy with my preference and enjoying myself seeing people I fancy and want | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there" How so?? | |||
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"As I stated in another thread, having a preference for your own racial group is an innate trait. Why? Simple really. Assuming the OOA theory is correct humans dispersed from Africa some 40-100k years ago. What took place then was breeding within populations that eventually gave us groups of humans in geographicallocations with different phenotypes. With all those years of breeding comes a strong urge for the MAJORITY (note I did not say all) to prefer their own group, after all we need two Chinese people to have sex in order to make more Chinese people. Anything else is a fetish, and not everyone has that fetish. Stop brow beating and coercing everyone to participate in race mixing (by using the racist card) just because it's your fetish. So why is an Irishman mixing with non-Irish? You think the Irish just grew out of the soil over there in Ireland or maybe just maybe my ancestors came from northern Europe. What do you think eh? I think by your own statement, you said that our ancestors came from Africa. For procreation purposes we may (but not in all cases) be attracted to people that match our phenotypes. To cross the boundary for recreational sex is not a fetish, but a preference. It isn't being forced upon people. Race mixing as you so crudely put it would only occur outside of swinging. You are a product of race mixing, otherwise you would have grown out of the ground. Unless you are a red-headed, blue eyed pure Celt. I can't have a serious conversation with someone who has such a poor understand of evolution and European tribes. " Likewise with someone who thinks inter-racial sex is about procreation and a fetish? | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so??" It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. | |||
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"I have white, straight, single, local, tall men only on my profile because I use this site for fantasy playmates and that's my fantasy. If people with far too much time on their hands wish to read more into it than that, nothing I can do about that so I'll happily continue with my choices! What's a "fantasy playmate" if I may enquire? " Maybe it's just that....a fantasy. The one verification is from a couple...reality. | |||
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"I have white, straight, single, local, tall men only on my profile because I use this site for fantasy playmates and that's my fantasy. If people with far too much time on their hands wish to read more into it than that, nothing I can do about that so I'll happily continue with my choices! What's a "fantasy playmate" if I may enquire? Maybe it's just that....a fantasy. The one verification is from a couple...reality." Are you referring to Miss_tress' post? That's really funny. Yes she just fantasises about meets. Same as me. ...You do know that people can hide their veri's..... right?! | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people." Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely? | |||
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" And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps? Why is it sinister to only meet people you're attracted to? If you are ONLY ever attracted to black men for example, are those people seriously saying they find NO white people, Asians, Malaysians etc attractive? If so, yes that could be sinister. Could be a sign that they are racist! Which is sinister! To you! There was a couple who posted they didn't meet black people. Not only didn't they meet black people they didn't meet anyone who had met black people and did forensic searches through verifications, checked and cross checked to ensure that no one they encountered had had any sexual contact with a black person: now that is sinister! " See? Sometimes this 'preference' can be sinister! | |||
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"I like white girls I like black girls I like Arab girls aswell I like tight girls I like stacked girls I like girls with a sugary smell I like Indian, Orient and US girls Girls from all around the world If she's sweet and smart and sexy, then she's just my kinda girl " But I wish they could all be Californian girls | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely?" so a woman like me is stating a choice not a preference, so your saying I'm excluding white men yes I am as like blackmen they are lush , so what do you think is right, I should meet white men although they are not what I'm attracted tothem, be accepted by all members of fab.thats like saying to a man who likes slim woman to fuck me as a preference choice isnt allowed.we all have to fuck anybody. no thankyou I will keep to my choice/preference as thats what I want | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely?" Ah ok so you mean it's just really the words preference and choice being used incorrecty? I did agree with the majority of your first post. But still kind of thinking that preference and choice are the same thing- on here at least. It was your final paragraph that I disagreed with- "And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" I don't think it's sinister. Its just sex. For example, I could 'exclude' -not want to meet- all people over 40, all black people and all Americans, French and bald men. Yes that's my choice but it's not sinister. And it's not ageism/ sexism/ racism/ etc. | |||
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" And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps? Why is it sinister to only meet people you're attracted to? If you are ONLY ever attracted to black men for example, are those people seriously saying they find NO white people, Asians, Malaysians etc attractive? If so, yes that could be sinister. Could be a sign that they are racist! Which is sinister! To you! There was a couple who posted they didn't meet black people. Not only didn't they meet black people they didn't meet anyone who had met black people and did forensic searches through verifications, checked and cross checked to ensure that no one they encountered had had any sexual contact with a black person: now that is sinister! See? Sometimes this 'preference' can be sinister!" In the example given I think that is indeed a bit sinister. Not choice or preference, just bloomin; weird! | |||
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"I like white girls I like black girls I like Arab girls aswell I like tight girls I like stacked girls I like girls with a sugary smell I like Indian, Orient and US girls Girls from all around the world If she's sweet and smart and sexy, then she's just my kinda girl But I wish they could all be Californian girls " With sun kissed skin so hot they'll melt your popsicle? | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely? Ah ok so you mean it's just really the words preference and choice being used incorrecty? I did agree with the majority of your first post. But still kind of thinking that preference and choice are the same thing- on here at least. It was your final paragraph that I disagreed with- "And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" I don't think it's sinister. Its just sex. For example, I could 'exclude' -not want to meet- all people over 40, all black people and all Americans, French and bald men. Yes that's my choice but it's not sinister. And it's not ageism/ sexism/ racism/ etc. " No. But if someone says "No Asians or Blacks", for example, it is sinister *if and only if* they won't meet them because they dislike - or even hate - them. Then it is sinister. And there will be people like that on here | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely? Ah ok so you mean it's just really the words preference and choice being used incorrecty? I did agree with the majority of your first post. But still kind of thinking that preference and choice are the same thing- on here at least. It was your final paragraph that I disagreed with- "And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" I don't think it's sinister. Its just sex. For example, I could 'exclude' -not want to meet- all people over 40, all black people and all Americans, French and bald men. Yes that's my choice but it's not sinister. And it's not ageism/ sexism/ racism/ etc. No. But if someone says "No Asians or Blacks", for example, it is sinister *if and only if* they won't meet them because they dislike - or even hate - them. Then it is sinister. And there will be people like that on here" There's lots of people I dislike, I just don't write it on my profile. I still won't meet them. Is it only sinister if they put it on their profile? | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely? Ah ok so you mean it's just really the words preference and choice being used incorrecty? I did agree with the majority of your first post. But still kind of thinking that preference and choice are the same thing- on here at least. It was your final paragraph that I disagreed with- "And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" I don't think it's sinister. Its just sex. For example, I could 'exclude' -not want to meet- all people over 40, all black people and all Americans, French and bald men. Yes that's my choice but it's not sinister. And it's not ageism/ sexism/ racism/ etc. No. But if someone says "No Asians or Blacks", for example, it is sinister *if and only if* they won't meet them because they dislike - or even hate - them. Then it is sinister. And there will be people like that on here There's lots of people I dislike, I just don't write it on my profile. I still won't meet them. Is it only sinister if they put it on their profile?" It is sinister if they exclude whole groups through hate - whether that is listed or not! | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely? Ah ok so you mean it's just really the words preference and choice being used incorrecty? I did agree with the majority of your first post. But still kind of thinking that preference and choice are the same thing- on here at least. It was your final paragraph that I disagreed with- "And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" I don't think it's sinister. Its just sex. For example, I could 'exclude' -not want to meet- all people over 40, all black people and all Americans, French and bald men. Yes that's my choice but it's not sinister. And it's not ageism/ sexism/ racism/ etc. No. But if someone says "No Asians or Blacks", for example, it is sinister *if and only if* they won't meet them because they dislike - or even hate - them. Then it is sinister. And there will be people like that on here There's lots of people I dislike, I just don't write it on my profile. I still won't meet them. Is it only sinister if they put it on their profile? It is sinister if they exclude whole groups through hate - whether that is listed or not!" Fair enough. | |||
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"For the purposes of fab only I'm only interested in meeting black guys. From what you are saying that makes it a choice rather than a preference. ....But it isn't as straightforward as that. I'm not saying that i only find black guys attractive,as I'm married to a white guy, but for what i want on here,at this moment in time, is an attractive black guy or guys because that is my preference of the moment and therefore my choice. This is my fantasy life that is part of enhancing the sex life of me and my husband. Why should others concern themselves with that or get upset if i want to exclude those I'm not looking to have sex with? I think those that rummage through the verifications to check that people haven't met black people for example are taking things too far. I don't see how that could be anything other than racist. Ah, the first lady in my HOT LIST. As always, you are clever and thorough. Agree, mostly, but... how can a sexual preference be ONLY towards a person with a certain skin colour? Because that is what i want. ....at the moment. I'm not saying i only ever want to have sex with black guys ever again. Just at the moment i have a particular attraction for black guys so that is what will fulfil my needs. For now." In a nutshell for me too. | |||
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"I have white, straight, single, local, tall men only on my profile because I use this site for fantasy playmates and that's my fantasy. If people with far too much time on their hands wish to read more into it than that, nothing I can do about that so I'll happily continue with my choices! What's a "fantasy playmate" if I may enquire? Maybe it's just that....a fantasy. The one verification is from a couple...reality." My verifications are hidden. I'm now part of a couple that attended a club and the hostess left me a verification mentioning my other half...and?!! | |||
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"This is one of the widest choice/preferences of fab that alot of people just cant get there head round.Its simple to me I changed my name a year ago and all my profile to assist me to find what I like and for them to find me, I go to two main interracial party's a month to meet blackmen, its what im attracted too, I had a white partner for 27yrs and he were aware I fancied blackmen as I would druel when eddie Murphy came on the telly lol when we both came on swinging scene he let me have my fantasy.now the fantasy has passed its just what I want, I like white men have many white male friends in the swinging scene ive met loads socially at clubs etc yes some I use to have sex with a year or so ago,while I was seeing what I really want. I just prefer the company of blackmen now and doubt I go back as I dont go weak at knees anymore for white men but I do when in company of blackmen x call me a racist if you like im just not attracted to white men anymore. " Hehe, racist! )))) I am the most sinister one here: I like black, mixed-race, Latin American (white, black or mixed) and some white men but not the majority of them, and Asian men leave me cold. I am a horrible woman. | |||
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"This is one of the widest choice/preferences of fab that alot of people just cant get there head round.Its simple to me I changed my name a year ago and all my profile to assist me to find what I like and for them to find me, I go to two main interracial party's a month to meet blackmen, its what im attracted too, I had a white partner for 27yrs and he were aware I fancied blackmen as I would druel when eddie Murphy came on the telly lol when we both came on swinging scene he let me have my fantasy.now the fantasy has passed its just what I want, I like white men have many white male friends in the swinging scene ive met loads socially at clubs etc yes some I use to have sex with a year or so ago,while I was seeing what I really want. I just prefer the company of blackmen now and doubt I go back as I dont go weak at knees anymore for white men but I do when in company of blackmen x call me a racist if you like im just not attracted to white men anymore. Hehe, racist! )))) I am the most sinister one here: I like black, mixed-race, Latin American (white, black or mixed) and some white men but not the majority of them, and Asian men leave me cold. I am a horrible woman." Why are you sinister? Are you left handed? | |||
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"This is one of the widest choice/preferences of fab that alot of people just cant get there head round.Its simple to me I changed my name a year ago and all my profile to assist me to find what I like and for them to find me, I go to two main interracial party's a month to meet blackmen, its what im attracted too, I had a white partner for 27yrs and he were aware I fancied blackmen as I would druel when eddie Murphy came on the telly lol when we both came on swinging scene he let me have my fantasy.now the fantasy has passed its just what I want, I like white men have many white male friends in the swinging scene ive met loads socially at clubs etc yes some I use to have sex with a year or so ago,while I was seeing what I really want. I just prefer the company of blackmen now and doubt I go back as I dont go weak at knees anymore for white men but I do when in company of blackmen x call me a racist if you like im just not attracted to white men anymore. Hehe, racist! )))) I am the most sinister one here: I like black, mixed-race, Latin American (white, black or mixed) and some white men but not the majority of them, and Asian men leave me cold. I am a horrible woman. Why are you sinister? Are you left handed?" Hehe, unfortunately not. Just too picky for some universalists who think people have time to meet everyone who contacts them. | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely? Ah ok so you mean it's just really the words preference and choice being used incorrecty? I did agree with the majority of your first post. But still kind of thinking that preference and choice are the same thing- on here at least. It was your final paragraph that I disagreed with- "And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" I don't think it's sinister. Its just sex. For example, I could 'exclude' -not want to meet- all people over 40, all black people and all Americans, French and bald men. Yes that's my choice but it's not sinister. And it's not ageism/ sexism/ racism/ etc. No. But if someone says "No Asians or Blacks", for example, it is sinister *if and only if* they won't meet them because they dislike - or even hate - them. Then it is sinister. And there will be people like that on here" Look the default position for the MAJORITY of the population is to prefer their own and not race mix. If you do, great for you but don't start this laughable straw man argument that it's "hate"if people don't share your fetish for it, ok buddy! | |||
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"This is one of the widest choice/preferences of fab that alot of people just cant get there head round.Its simple to me I changed my name a year ago and all my profile to assist me to find what I like and for them to find me, I go to two main interracial party's a month to meet blackmen, its what im attracted too, I had a white partner for 27yrs and he were aware I fancied blackmen as I would druel when eddie Murphy came on the telly lol when we both came on swinging scene he let me have my fantasy.now the fantasy has passed its just what I want, I like white men have many white male friends in the swinging scene ive met loads socially at clubs etc yes some I use to have sex with a year or so ago,while I was seeing what I really want. I just prefer the company of blackmen now and doubt I go back as I dont go weak at knees anymore for white men but I do when in company of blackmen x call me a racist if you like im just not attracted to white men anymore. Hehe, racist! )))) I am the most sinister one here: I like black, mixed-race, Latin American (white, black or mixed) and some white men but not the majority of them, and Asian men leave me cold. I am a horrible woman. Why are you sinister? Are you left handed? Hehe, unfortunately not. Just too picky for some universalists who think people have time to meet everyone who contacts them." Who said you should? | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely? Ah ok so you mean it's just really the words preference and choice being used incorrecty? I did agree with the majority of your first post. But still kind of thinking that preference and choice are the same thing- on here at least. It was your final paragraph that I disagreed with- "And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" I don't think it's sinister. Its just sex. For example, I could 'exclude' -not want to meet- all people over 40, all black people and all Americans, French and bald men. Yes that's my choice but it's not sinister. And it's not ageism/ sexism/ racism/ etc. No. But if someone says "No Asians or Blacks", for example, it is sinister *if and only if* they won't meet them because they dislike - or even hate - them. Then it is sinister. And there will be people like that on here Look the default position for the MAJORITY of the population is to prefer their own and not race mix. If you do, great for you but don't start this laughable straw man argument that it's "hate"if people don't share your fetish for it, ok buddy! " You misunderstood"buddy". I was saying that some who say (for example) "Whites only" will do so out of hate of other groups. But not all Some will. Some do. Perhaps you do? Do you? I am Caucasian and have already stated my PREFERENCE for Caucasian women! So, why have you had a pop at me? | |||
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"This is one of the widest choice/preferences of fab that alot of people just cant get there head round.Its simple to me I changed my name a year ago and all my profile to assist me to find what I like and for them to find me, I go to two main interracial party's a month to meet blackmen, its what im attracted too, I had a white partner for 27yrs and he were aware I fancied blackmen as I would druel when eddie Murphy came on the telly lol when we both came on swinging scene he let me have my fantasy.now the fantasy has passed its just what I want, I like white men have many white male friends in the swinging scene ive met loads socially at clubs etc yes some I use to have sex with a year or so ago,while I was seeing what I really want. I just prefer the company of blackmen now and doubt I go back as I dont go weak at knees anymore for white men but I do when in company of blackmen x call me a racist if you like im just not attracted to white men anymore. Hehe, racist! )))) I am the most sinister one here: I like black, mixed-race, Latin American (white, black or mixed) and some white men but not the majority of them, and Asian men leave me cold. I am a horrible woman." you know me I'm more sinister than you and im flipping left handed so no hope for me | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely? Ah ok so you mean it's just really the words preference and choice being used incorrecty? I did agree with the majority of your first post. But still kind of thinking that preference and choice are the same thing- on here at least. It was your final paragraph that I disagreed with- "And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" I don't think it's sinister. Its just sex. For example, I could 'exclude' -not want to meet- all people over 40, all black people and all Americans, French and bald men. Yes that's my choice but it's not sinister. And it's not ageism/ sexism/ racism/ etc. No. But if someone says "No Asians or Blacks", for example, it is sinister *if and only if* they won't meet them because they dislike - or even hate - them. Then it is sinister. And there will be people like that on here Look the default position for the MAJORITY of the population is to prefer their own and not race mix. If you do, great for you but don't start this laughable straw man argument that it's "hate"if people don't share your fetish for it, ok buddy! " I still don't grasp how it is a fetish | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely? Ah ok so you mean it's just really the words preference and choice being used incorrecty? I did agree with the majority of your first post. But still kind of thinking that preference and choice are the same thing- on here at least. It was your final paragraph that I disagreed with- "And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" I don't think it's sinister. Its just sex. For example, I could 'exclude' -not want to meet- all people over 40, all black people and all Americans, French and bald men. Yes that's my choice but it's not sinister. And it's not ageism/ sexism/ racism/ etc. No. But if someone says "No Asians or Blacks", for example, it is sinister *if and only if* they won't meet them because they dislike - or even hate - them. Then it is sinister. And there will be people like that on here Look the default position for the MAJORITY of the population is to prefer their own and not race mix. If you do, great for you but don't start this laughable straw man argument that it's "hate"if people don't share your fetish for it, ok buddy! I still don't grasp how it is a fetish " Get those brain cells working boyo, you can do it | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely? Ah ok so you mean it's just really the words preference and choice being used incorrecty? I did agree with the majority of your first post. But still kind of thinking that preference and choice are the same thing- on here at least. It was your final paragraph that I disagreed with- "And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" I don't think it's sinister. Its just sex. For example, I could 'exclude' -not want to meet- all people over 40, all black people and all Americans, French and bald men. Yes that's my choice but it's not sinister. And it's not ageism/ sexism/ racism/ etc. No. But if someone says "No Asians or Blacks", for example, it is sinister *if and only if* they won't meet them because they dislike - or even hate - them. Then it is sinister. And there will be people like that on here Look the default position for the MAJORITY of the population is to prefer their own and not race mix. If you do, great for you but don't start this laughable straw man argument that it's "hate"if people don't share your fetish for it, ok buddy! I still don't grasp how it is a fetish Get those brain cells working boyo, you can do it" Why haven't you stated the fact you only play with white people on your profile if you feel so strongly about it? | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely? Ah ok so you mean it's just really the words preference and choice being used incorrecty? I did agree with the majority of your first post. But still kind of thinking that preference and choice are the same thing- on here at least. It was your final paragraph that I disagreed with- "And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" I don't think it's sinister. Its just sex. For example, I could 'exclude' -not want to meet- all people over 40, all black people and all Americans, French and bald men. Yes that's my choice but it's not sinister. And it's not ageism/ sexism/ racism/ etc. No. But if someone says "No Asians or Blacks", for example, it is sinister *if and only if* they won't meet them because they dislike - or even hate - them. Then it is sinister. And there will be people like that on here Look the default position for the MAJORITY of the population is to prefer their own and not race mix. If you do, great for you but don't start this laughable straw man argument that it's "hate"if people don't share your fetish for it, ok buddy! I still don't grasp how it is a fetish Get those brain cells working boyo, you can do it Why haven't you stated the fact you only play with white people on your profile if you feel so strongly about it?" Maybe I race mix but I can understand why most don't, ever think of that eh? Someone with a particular fetish that doesn't coerce the whole planet into participating in it too. | |||
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"I googled the word fetish and my phone filters wouldn't accept it, I wanted to know if not wanting to fuck white men but wanting to fuck blackmen is a fetish, because I know I like it and plan on doing it this fri a preference/choice is what it is whether you want black/white blonde/brunette big boobs/little boobs slim/large there all types of people and some have a wider choice, while others like me have one choice of which has anough for me to get through im working through london as I speak, it neverending and hard work I just don't need any other preference " Something about you tells me you have been rejected by a lot of White men in the past. My spidey sense is tingling (laughter) | |||
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"I googled the word fetish and my phone filters wouldn't accept it, I wanted to know if not wanting to fuck white men but wanting to fuck blackmen is a fetish, because I know I like it and plan on doing it this fri a preference/choice is what it is whether you want black/white blonde/brunette big boobs/little boobs slim/large there all types of people and some have a wider choice, while others like me have one choice of which has anough for me to get through im working through london as I speak, it neverending and hard work I just don't need any other preference Something about you tells me you have been rejected by a lot of White men in the past. My spidey sense is tingling (laughter) " hehe your very amusing bit like you calling preferences a fetish x I would put my summary up but you mite think ooooh er she a right slapper that one on a swingers site | |||
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"The only people!e that are coming across as sinister is the op trying to read into something something that isnt there How so?? It's not sinister. It's choice. We don't have to fuck people we don't want to fuck. It's no-one else's business why we don't want to fuck certain people. Yes, it's choice. As I suggested above. I'm not saying it's sinister. I was playing devil's advocate. I was trying to highlight that the oft used line "it's my preference" is the wrong terminology. Where there is exclusion, preference is no longer the issue. I once posted that I prefer bareback - and was roundly castigated for it. Wrongly. We all, I suspect, PREFER bareback. When with a partner, all, or most, will bareback. They prefer it. I prefer brunettes - but find blondes etc attractive too! None of my preferences exclude. Hence they are preferences. But someone who says I ONLY meet x, y, z is not stating a preference. They are expressing a wish, stating what their choice is. Surely? Ah ok so you mean it's just really the words preference and choice being used incorrecty? I did agree with the majority of your first post. But still kind of thinking that preference and choice are the same thing- on here at least. It was your final paragraph that I disagreed with- "And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" I don't think it's sinister. Its just sex. For example, I could 'exclude' -not want to meet- all people over 40, all black people and all Americans, French and bald men. Yes that's my choice but it's not sinister. And it's not ageism/ sexism/ racism/ etc. No. But if someone says "No Asians or Blacks", for example, it is sinister *if and only if* they won't meet them because they dislike - or even hate - them. Then it is sinister. And there will be people like that on here Look the default position for the MAJORITY of the population is to prefer their own and not race mix. If you do, great for you but don't start this laughable straw man argument that it's "hate"if people don't share your fetish for it, ok buddy! I still don't grasp how it is a fetish Get those brain cells working boyo, you can do it Why haven't you stated the fact you only play with white people on your profile if you feel so strongly about it? Maybe I race mix but I can understand why most don't, ever think of that eh? Someone with a particular fetish that doesn't coerce the whole planet into participating in it too." Somehow I feel you don't. You believe it is a fetish as opposed to an informed choice that people want to make. You also serm to think that people are conspiring to make it happen everywhere. You smoking something special to bring on this paranoia? | |||
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"I googled the word fetish and my phone filters wouldn't accept it, I wanted to know if not wanting to fuck white men but wanting to fuck blackmen is a fetish, because I know I like it and plan on doing it this fri a preference/choice is what it is whether you want black/white blonde/brunette big boobs/little boobs slim/large there all types of people and some have a wider choice, while others like me have one choice of which has anough for me to get through im working through london as I speak, it neverending and hard work I just don't need any other preference Something about you tells me you have been rejected by a lot of White men in the past. My spidey sense is tingling (laughter) " WHAT?! I got a 24-hour ban for much less. | |||
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"I googled the word fetish and my phone filters wouldn't accept it, I wanted to know if not wanting to fuck white men but wanting to fuck blackmen is a fetish, because I know I like it and plan on doing it this fri a preference/choice is what it is whether you want black/white blonde/brunette big boobs/little boobs slim/large there all types of people and some have a wider choice, while others like me have one choice of which has anough for me to get through im working through london as I speak, it neverending and hard work I just don't need any other preference Something about you tells me you have been rejected by a lot of White men in the past. My spidey sense is tingling (laughter) WHAT?! I got a 24-hour ban for much less." ms curves that were a dig at me lol of which I cant say I took much notice, he seems to have gone UNLOS now | |||
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"One of the most, to my mind, misused words on Fab is the word 'preference'. Now I 'prefer' Caucasian women. That is NOT to say I won't meet black, Asian or Malaysian women etc. Just that I prefer them. I 'prefer' brunettes. That is not to say I can't find, or don't find, blondes or redheads attractive. I do. Jane is blonde! I prefer curves, long hair, big tits and so on. Basically, though, none of my preferences exclude anyone. We are all familiar with the assertion by those who say No Whites/Blacks/Asians or ONLY Whites/Blacks (never seen a profile saying only Asians) that it is their preference. Surely the exclusion makes it more of a personal choice rather than the usual preferences we all have? If someone says black men ONLY, why the 'only'? Does this mean that the person in question finds not one other man of any other race attractive? And how do you define 'black' anyway? If someone is mixed race (as another poster on another thread wondered) are they 'in' or 'out' when someone says blacks only? Surely a profile stating 'I prefer black men' is giving a preference - but not one which excludes others? So, when profiles state "Whites only," are they not providing others with their choice, rather than giving a preference? And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps? Why is it sinister to only meet people you're attracted to? If you are ONLY ever attracted to black men for example, are those people seriously saying they find NO white people, Asians, Malaysians etc attractive? If so, yes that could be sinister. Could be a sign that they are racist! Which is sinister! To you! There was a couple who posted they didn't meet black people. Not only didn't they meet black people they didn't meet anyone who had met black people and did forensic searches through verifications, checked and cross checked to ensure that no one they encountered had had any sexual contact with a black person: now that is sinister! Now I don't meet "disabled" men for example. If I were meeting for "vanilla" sex, if I fancied the person: hell yes, but I don't. I meet for "extreme" D/s play. My playroom is on the third floor. I have hooks and brackets etc...how I like to play would be a challenge and not fit how I want to play. There's nothing sinister in that!" Your playroom sounds very interesting. | |||
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"One of the most, to my mind, misused words on Fab is the word 'preference'. Now I 'prefer' Caucasian women. That is NOT to say I won't meet black, Asian or Malaysian women etc. Just that I prefer them. I 'prefer' brunettes. That is not to say I can't find, or don't find, blondes or redheads attractive. I do. Jane is blonde! I prefer curves, long hair, big tits and so on. Basically, though, none of my preferences exclude anyone. We are all familiar with the assertion by those who say No Whites/Blacks/Asians or ONLY Whites/Blacks (never seen a profile saying only Asians) that it is their preference. Surely the exclusion makes it more of a personal choice rather than the usual preferences we all have? If someone says black men ONLY, why the 'only'? Does this mean that the person in question finds not one other man of any other race attractive? And how do you define 'black' anyway? If someone is mixed race (as another poster on another thread wondered) are they 'in' or 'out' when someone says blacks only? Surely a profile stating 'I prefer black men' is giving a preference - but not one which excludes others? So, when profiles state "Whites only," are they not providing others with their choice, rather than giving a preference? And what does it say when your mindset excludes so many people? Have you gone from simply having a preference into suffering from something more sinister, an "ism" or stereotype, perhaps?" Time is short for some people and as they have a specific type they are looking for they are letting those who aren't aware. | |||
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"I googled the word fetish and my phone filters wouldn't accept it, I wanted to know if not wanting to fuck white men but wanting to fuck blackmen is a fetish, because I know I like it and plan on doing it this fri a preference/choice is what it is whether you want black/white blonde/brunette big boobs/little boobs slim/large there all types of people and some have a wider choice, while others like me have one choice of which has anough for me to get through im working through london as I speak, it neverending and hard work I just don't need any other preference Something about you tells me you have been rejected by a lot of White men in the past. My spidey sense is tingling (laughter) WHAT?! I got a 24-hour ban for much less. ms curves that were a dig at me lol of which I cant say I took much notice, he seems to have gone UNLOS now " Maybe he is still cable tied to a bed, covered in nutella and being enjoyed by his lady friend with a 14" strap on... | |||
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