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By *icentious OP Couple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

I know i shouldn't...

I know it's against the good Doctors orders...

I know I should have taken Med's

But I couldn't help it.

Been chatting, as one does, about role play and one was suggested that had a Stockholm syndrome scenario, (there was another thread similar to this, I couldn't find it).

It got me wondering if bondage between consenting adults had elements of the syndrome, as in allowing non-cognitive boundaries to be explored and the byproduct this realises.

Perhaps it's time to go back to the Doc's.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Can you explain what you mean?

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By *icentious OP Couple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"Can you explain what you mean?"

Knew I should have thought this through....

Stockholm syndrome was a term developed ofter a hostage situation, it's where traumatic bonding creates emotional empathy towards the one in control, which in turn, creates a need.

If I remember rightly, the theory is based in Freud's thinking, around the ego's need for balance.

The syndrome, in my head, would explain a few things, like empathy in pushing boundaries, plus to a degree the sub drop.

But hey, as I said I haven't been taking the Meds.

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

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I find its the trust exchange that intensifies the bond.

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By *icentious OP Couple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"Can you explain what you mean?

Knew I should have thought this through....

Stockholm syndrome was a term developed ofter a hostage situation, it's where traumatic bonding creates emotional empathy towards the one in control, which in turn, creates a need.

If I remember rightly, the theory is based in Freud's thinking, around the ego's need for balance.

The syndrome, in my head, would explain a few things, like empathy in pushing boundaries, plus to a degree the sub drop.

But hey, as I said I haven't been taking the Meds.

Sorry I should have added, the ego's need for balance between the I.d. and the super ego.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

So you are saying the act of submitting creates an emotional bond to the dom, or do you mean reinforces?

I guess the more you come to trust someone the more emotional bond there will be. From the subs point of view. From the doms, perhaps it is being trusted.

I'm not experienced in the scene enough to say.

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By *icentious OP Couple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

What I'm thinking is that the person who is being controlled is being pushed away from day to day values into what Freud called the Id, the area of immediate gratification with no morality.

When the situation is finished and the super ego (day to day morality) kicks back in, a by-product of the ego's balancing of the pleasure/day to day morality is a form of empathy (label) to the controller.

Now trust would be aligned to how far the controller could push the person in to an Id frame.

Well for me.

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

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In my experience- the trust that has been grown is enhanced and intensified during a scene. The bond seems to just get stronger. How it feels to me is the trust and respect, and the giving and accepting is what shapes and strenthens the tie between two people and their unique chemistry.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

I am greatly out of my depth in this conversation.

When I let my b/f pin me down and do all sorts of filthy things to me at the weekend I did find I thought about it a lot the next few days. I do want to do it all again when my bum recovers and a lot of my thoughts are taken up with that.

But if I see a great gig I think about that a lot and sometimes go to see the band later on the tour.

But my overall taste in music remains reasonably static and I don't think my morality has changed either just because my b/f pinned me down and pee'd when he was in me.

Am I not getting the point? Perhaps you could simplify it and take out the big words for thickies like me.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I think diagonally. It's why I'm either ahead of the curve or hopelessly behind. It also explains why I live in a surreal universe.

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By *icentious OP Couple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Mmmm, when we are born our mental system is based on survival, instant gratification, I want it and I want it now (the Id).

Round the age of 4 to 7 social values start impacting on us to suppress this need it now instinct (well in some anyway), this is called the superego (if you follow Freud's thinking)

Out of the battle between, I want it now and social value acceptance the ego develops to keep both in check

Now, what would happen if social values (super ego) became too restricting almost imploding a persons world and the ego didn't know how to deal with this.

If some external force controlled the breaking of the superego's hold by forcing a pleasurable Id situation, how would the ego respond to this?

Equally when the superego took hold again, what would the persons response be?

Just left side thoughts.

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