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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

We get a lot of single guy bashing threads, or so they tell us.

But equality lives

We have one thread running where a woman is (quite rightly) pleased to have found herself a 19 yr old TOYBOY.

Almost every reply is wishing her the best of fun with a rampant "go on my son"

No mention of his tender 19 years being here on a swingers site.

Then we have an 18 year old single fem asking for some advice and at least two people have condemned her for even being on the site, too young, get off the site is the cry.

Is this the 21st Century, are women equal, do we have binge drinking women, ladettes and liberated women who can make thier own minds up or is it like gravity and just a myth ?

BTW .... gravity is a myth - the earth sucks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In all honesty if i think back to when i was 18/19 I wasn't ready for sex in a loving relationship nevermind what psychological issues come with swinging. From my own experience I think 25 is the earliest age to be swinging. I was a late bloomer and am making up for it now! lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Is that for males or females or both

Isnt that what swinging is, sexual experimentation without the tangles of love and relationships and therefore isn't the safe environment of swingers clubs a great place to learn instead of the drug, fight, spiked drink laden nightclubs of the town centres ?

Isn't it good that younger people are now able to view sex without taking part in order to see what it's all about.

Is it not a good thing that young people can learn from us old gits in a safe environment, where our experience is available in forums and clubs, how many vanilla youngsters going to nightclubs can ask those kind of questions of so many experienced older people ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We get a lot of single guy bashing threads, or so they tell us.

But equality lives

We have one thread running where a woman is (quite rightly) pleased to have found herself a 19 yr old TOYBOY.

Almost every reply is wishing her the best of fun with a rampant "go on my son"

No mention of his tender 19 years being here on a swingers site.

Then we have an 18 year old single fem asking for some advice and at least two people have condemned her for even being on the site, too young, get off the site is the cry.

Is this the 21st Century, are women equal, do we have binge drinking women, ladettes and liberated women who can make thier own minds up or is it like gravity and just a myth ?

BTW .... gravity is a myth - the earth sucks "

rightly said hun, this site is still male oriented. Up the revolution yaaaay! xxxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In all honesty if i think back to when i was 18/19 I wasn't ready for sex in a loving relationship nevermind what psychological issues come with swinging. From my own experience I think 25 is the earliest age to be swinging. I was a late bloomer and am making up for it now! lol"

takes some effort to understand that subliminal moral coding and even then it seems we are limiting youngsters. Good luck to them as long as they stay safe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is that for males or females or both

Isnt that what swinging is, sexual experimentation without the tangles of love and relationships and therefore isn't the safe environment of swingers clubs a great place to learn instead of the drug, fight, spiked drink laden nightclubs of the town centres ?

Isn't it good that younger people are now able to view sex without taking part in order to see what it's all about.

Is it not a good thing that young people can learn from us old gits in a safe environment, where our experience is available in forums and clubs, how many vanilla youngsters going to nightclubs can ask those kind of questions of so many experienced older people ?"

I never thought of it like that before Jed.

I don't meet people who are younger than myself. This is simply because I've never once enjoyed sex with anyone younger than me. I'd never agree with them being advised to leave the site though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Your wise not to meet them, because it's "not your thing" but it is good to see that you support them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is that for males or females or both

Isnt that what swinging is, sexual experimentation without the tangles of love and relationships and therefore isn't the safe environment of swingers clubs a great place to learn instead of the drug, fight, spiked drink laden nightclubs of the town centres ?

Isn't it good that younger people are now able to view sex without taking part in order to see what it's all about.

Is it not a good thing that young people can learn from us old gits in a safe environment, where our experience is available in forums and clubs, how many vanilla youngsters going to nightclubs can ask those kind of questions of so many experienced older people ?"

Totally agree with you there Jed we have met many younger than us people and many of them have the attitude they want to get all their shagging out of the way before starting a proper relationship, the only issue some of them have had is trying to give up swinging when they have found that special someone but then that can be a problem whatever your age

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Age is just a number as long as over 18 ,,,,,,, woman or men and some of the younger people i have meet have been like a breath of fresh air to me no hang up s looking to please and just have a fun time. Just normal sexie people And thats what its about FUN . AGE IS IN THE HEAD. I maybe 40s but i feel 20s30s still. x kisses. jo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally, whilst trying very hard not to go off on a tangent, i passionately believe in live and let live, each to his/her own, everyone is entitled to live their life as they want without abuse from anyone else.

Its just that i feel young people should grow up "gracefully" learn by sleeping/dating their own age, trying new experiences not learning from some old woman or man. I do agree that some young people are wise beyond their years, and ive chatted with them online, the writing and the artwork was incredible, but really does that make them an adult? Does it mean that they can cope with the nuances of swinging? Not really, im not saying they shouldnt be here as they have every right to but id question an 18 or 19 yr olds motives. The 18 yr old girl could get to my age before coming as i did and ive not orgasmed yet, maybe she is trying to be like her peers, just like smoking, perhaps she thinks that we have it all when really we dont always.

As has been said on the forum about the 19 yr olds, young people should be out clubbing, smoking , drinking and growing up not swinging just to get laid

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By *ohjaneCouple
over a year ago

south staffs

My father said to me : When you want to aquire a new skill, you have to read about it, ask about it, be shown if possible and then practice it.

How can you fail to learn from people who have more experience than you ? How can you call fumbling in a dark car or doorway with someone who also doesn't have a clue, learning / growing up ?

That precise fumbling and not getting the good experienced input can put some youngsters off sex for real! (How do people get hang-ups and inhibitions ?)

I say that if a person, irrespective of their age or past experience, wants to learn what sex is about, then mixing with people who make it their "hobby" has got to be the way to go.

Jane x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In all honesty if i think back to when i was 18/19 I wasn't ready for sex in a loving relationship nevermind what psychological issues come with swinging. From my own experience I think 25 is the earliest age to be swinging. I was a late bloomer and am making up for it now! lol

takes some effort to understand that subliminal moral coding and even then it seems we are limiting youngsters. Good luck to them as long as they stay safe. "

I agree

when i think back to being 18/19 it was the psychological effects i couldnt cope with and often made the mistake of confusing lust with love. i think its great they can di-associate the two and realise that they are not mutually exclusive.

as long as they are staying safe i say, but i'd say that regardless of age or gender

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My father said to me : When you want to aquire a new skill, you have to read about it, ask about it, be shown if possible and then practice it.

How can you fail to learn from people who have more experience than you ? How can you call fumbling in a dark car or doorway with someone who also doesn't have a clue, learning / growing up ?

That precise fumbling and not getting the good experienced input can put some youngsters off sex for real! (How do people get hang-ups and inhibitions ?)

I say that if a person, irrespective of their age or past experience, wants to learn what sex is about, then mixing with people who make it their "hobby" has got to be the way to go.

Jane x"

I think your right i know i am a better lover now then when i was in my 20s ,, If younger people feel thay would like to open there mind and body up to sex i feel its better with me then paying for a woman to shag them ... I am free .. X JO XX

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By *andKCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk

Equality?

Man + Woman earn, Woman Spends = equality

come on all you married guys should know that!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Equality?

Man + Woman earn, Woman Spends = equality

come on all you married guys should know that!!! "

How about Man + Woman earn. Man gets 4 credit cards that woman doesn't know about racks up £40,000 of debt and Woman and kids loose their home while he goes off shagging a 20 yr old.

Suggest you think before you make sweeping statements

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apologies for last statement but makes my blood boil when people make statements like that. Men can be just as stupid about spending money as women can

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By *andKCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk


"Apologies for last statement but makes my blood boil when people make statements like that. Men can be just as stupid about spending money as women can"

Sorry I hit a raw nerve - if you look at the majority of my posts they are meant to be a little tongue in cheek. xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apologies for last statement but makes my blood boil when people make statements like that. Men can be just as stupid about spending money as women can

Sorry I hit a raw nerve - if you look at the majority of my posts they are meant to be a little tongue in cheek. xx"

No problem i probably over reacted anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Equality?

Man + Woman earn, Woman Spends = equality

come on all you married guys should know that!!!

How about Man + Woman earn. Man gets 4 credit cards that woman doesn't know about racks up £40,000 of debt and Woman and kids loose their home while he goes off shagging a 20 yr old.

Suggest you think before you make sweeping statements"

F*cking ell, and i thought my ex was bad but the debts he left me with were peanuts compared with that

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By *andKCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk


"Apologies for last statement but makes my blood boil when people make statements like that. Men can be just as stupid about spending money as women can

Sorry I hit a raw nerve - if you look at the majority of my posts they are meant to be a little tongue in cheek. xx

No problem i probably over reacted anyway. "

Should say K and I have been married 33 years this year and have had ups and downs you get 'wrong-uns' both male and female

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a strong believer that from an early age your sexual orientation is mapped out.

Age to me is just a number.

Becoming an adult is deemed by reaching 18 in most legal demographics.

Therefore each to there own I'd say.

Paddy xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a strong believer that from an early age your sexual orientation is mapped out.

Age to me is just a number.

Becoming an adult is deemed by reaching 18 in most legal demographics.

Therefore each to there own I'd say.

Paddy xx"

i never really understand the comment "age is a number"? Im 49, thats a number, 31 (the difference between me and an 18 yr old) is a number, 22 - my sons age, 24 - my daughters age, 25 - the age when anyone can drive a mazda, just illogical nonsense, so what does it mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At fast approaching 50 a 19 year old would have absolutely no appeal to me whatsover. I can get an ego boost from handsome, successful, erudite, fit men around my age...I prefer men to boys.

It would be nice to think teenagers would be out enjoying themself with friends instead of on sites like these, but there you go: they're not my children and I wont be meeting them so not something I spend my time thinking about.

Now...where are all the grown up subs?!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a strong believer that from an early age your sexual orientation is mapped out.

Age to me is just a number.

Becoming an adult is deemed by reaching 18 in most legal demographics.

Therefore each to there own I'd say.

Paddy xx

i never really understand the comment "age is a number"? Im 49, thats a number, 31 (the difference between me and an 18 yr old) is a number, 22 - my sons age, 24 - my daughters age, 25 - the age when anyone can drive a mazda, just illogical nonsense, so what does it mean?"

I'm with you on that one!

It's something people say when they are trying to please: along with "each to their own".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm all for equality, and live and let live as are most people on this site. Unfortunately as a parent I can't help but think, would I have been so if my daughter or son had been using this site at 18?

I think that's what runs through a lot of peoples heads, what we have done/seen ourselves and imagine our kids in those situations.

It's not that we dis/approve of younger people being here.

It's maybe them having the same knowledge as us and being afraid for them getting jaded with

'vanilla' sex at too early an age.

I know that may come across as very double standards but, as I said, as a parent I have a subconscious desire for my children to live happily ever after in a monogamous relationship... it's not a feeling I can change or control.

As such I tend to project those same feelings onto any young person in their late teens early twenties using this site.

I don't condemn or condone them being here, I just cannot play with them myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is it for years men have been having younger woman ,,, alot look at them think its fine ... but when its woman its not right ....... I think it fine look at modonna she out there having fun and looking good .. age to her dont come into it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm all for equality, and live and let live as are most people on this site. Unfortunately as a parent I can't help but think, would I have been so if my daughter or son had been using this site at 18?

I think that's what runs through a lot of peoples heads, what we have done/seen ourselves and imagine our kids in those situations.

It's not that we dis/approve of younger people being here.

It's maybe them having the same knowledge as us and being afraid for them getting jaded with

'vanilla' sex at too early an age.

I know that may come across as very double standards but, as I said, as a parent I have a subconscious desire for my children to live happily ever after in a monogamous relationship... it's not a feeling I can change or control.

As such I tend to project those same feelings onto any young person in their late teens early twenties using this site.

I don't condemn or condone them being here, I just cannot play with them myself.

"

Laine, you have expressed my thoughts exactly.

Well said x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it for years men have been having younger woman ,,, alot look at them think its fine ... but when its woman its not right ....... I think it fine look at modonna she out there having fun and looking good .. age to her dont come into it."

Women have always been judged, but often we have been our own worst enemies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a strong believer that from an early age your sexual orientation is mapped out.

Age to me is just a number.

Becoming an adult is deemed by reaching 18 in most legal demographics.

Therefore each to there own I'd say.

Paddy xx

i never really understand the comment "age is a number"? Im 49, thats a number, 31 (the difference between me and an 18 yr old) is a number, 22 - my sons age, 24 - my daughters age, 25 - the age when anyone can drive a mazda, just illogical nonsense, so what does it mean?"

If no one knew or delcared their age then we would go on attraction only. Simples.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My father said to me : When you want to aquire a new skill, you have to read about it, ask about it, be shown if possible and then practice it.

How can you fail to learn from people who have more experience than you ? How can you call fumbling in a dark car or doorway with someone who also doesn't have a clue, learning / growing up ?

That precise fumbling and not getting the good experienced input can put some youngsters off sex for real! (How do people get hang-ups and inhibitions ?)

I say that if a person, irrespective of their age or past experience, wants to learn what sex is about, then mixing with people who make it their "hobby" has got to be the way to go.

Jane x"

AND Historically this has always occurred.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Equality?

Man + Woman earn, Woman Spends = equality

come on all you married guys should know that!!! "

How about woman leaves d*unk husband, husband grabs business she built. Woman moves on has own money and credit cards agogo and does not need a man who makes sexist jokes. Marriage can be whatever you wish to make it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a strong believer that from an early age your sexual orientation is mapped out.

Age to me is just a number.

Becoming an adult is deemed by reaching 18 in most legal demographics.

Therefore each to there own I'd say.

Paddy xx

i never really understand the comment "age is a number"? Im 49, thats a number, 31 (the difference between me and an 18 yr old) is a number, 22 - my sons age, 24 - my daughters age, 25 - the age when anyone can drive a mazda, just illogical nonsense, so what does it mean?

I'm with you on that one!

It's something people say when they are trying to please: along with "each to their own"."

Dont forget the "i love older women" umm is that supposed to make me forget my values and jump into the sack with them

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm a strong believer that from an early age your sexual orientation is mapped out.

Age to me is just a number.

Becoming an adult is deemed by reaching 18 in most legal demographics.

Therefore each to there own I'd say.

Paddy xx

i never really understand the comment "age is a number"? Im 49, thats a number, 31 (the difference between me and an 18 yr old) is a number, 22 - my sons age, 24 - my daughters age, 25 - the age when anyone can drive a mazda, just illogical nonsense, so what does it mean?

I'm with you on that one!

It's something people say when they are trying to please: along with "each to their own".

Dont forget the "i love older women" umm is that supposed to make me forget my values and jump into the sack with them "

I guess it depends when and where it is said:

Tell a 17 year old in a bar he is too young to be there and it is a relevant number.

Tell a 48 year old man or woman that you find him/her attractive and she looks 38 and they will see it as a positive number

Tell a 21 year old male he is too young for you and he will see it as a negative number

Tell an 8 year old that they have severe arthritus or a 28 year old that they have altzhiemers and the number seems significant

In swinging we seem to use the term "age is just a number" to imply that we are looking for mutual attraction regardless of age, to that end it is a good thing to say, ok some say people look younger to get into pants/knickers, but surely there must be some attraction for them to want to do that in the first place ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a strong believer that from an early age your sexual orientation is mapped out.

Age to me is just a number.

Becoming an adult is deemed by reaching 18 in most legal demographics.

Therefore each to there own I'd say.

Paddy xx

i never really understand the comment "age is a number"? Im 49, thats a number, 31 (the difference between me and an 18 yr old) is a number, 22 - my sons age, 24 - my daughters age, 25 - the age when anyone can drive a mazda, just illogical nonsense, so what does it mean?

I'm with you on that one!

It's something people say when they are trying to please: along with "each to their own".

Dont forget the "i love older women" umm is that supposed to make me forget my values and jump into the sack with them

I guess it depends when and where it is said:

Tell a 17 year old in a bar he is too young to be there and it is a relevant number.

Tell a 48 year old man or woman that you find him/her attractive and she looks 38 and they will see it as a positive number

Tell a 21 year old male he is too young for you and he will see it as a negative number

Tell an 8 year old that they have severe arthritus or a 28 year old that they have altzhiemers and the number seems significant

In swinging we seem to use the term "age is just a number" to imply that we are looking for mutual attraction regardless of age, to that end it is a good thing to say, ok some say people look younger to get into pants/knickers, but surely there must be some attraction for them to want to do that in the first place ?"

People use "age is a number" ind the outside world but attraction thats exactly it, im not attracted to them because i dont want to be seen in public and have someone mistake them for one of my kids, thats just putting myself up for more bloody ridicule and as ive had that all my life, the hell would i do it on purpose.

Ive also grown up with the thought that when i was 20ish i went out with 20ish, when i was 30ish i went out with 30ish, and so forth, ive never been out with anyone much younger than me at all and i dont want to. Im not attracted to them and quite frankly, i abhor the thought, they are also the biggest group to make snide comments and jokes about me, shows how shallow and immature they truly are. I dont see that a 20 yr old has the maturity of a 40 yr old, for example, because if the truth be known, a 20 yr old hasnt had the life of a 40 yr old, therefore a 40 yr old has to come down to their level and thinks they are mature when really they are not. I want someone my own intellectual equal, experience etc etec, young people are not.

There ive said it, i despise younger vs older, i think its vile, i cant help it but as ive already said on here, each to his/her own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have 20s son and a girl i was married at 18 with family thay have grown up knowing all about me and there dad we are still married and happy... and i am open ,,, my mum and dad was swingers too and my Auties as i child i would sit on the steps and see it ,, keys in there day ,,,,,,, I am a normal woman I am not a perve. I go out with my KIDS I feel like one of them and its not me hiding from getting older i just dont see the age thing ... I am not there saying thay cant do this thay cant do that its there life and this is my life.... just feel happy around people all ages and ok to be seen with them too.

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By *andKCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk


"Equality?

Man + Woman earn, Woman Spends = equality

come on all you married guys should know that!!!

How about woman leaves d*unk husband, husband grabs business she built. Woman moves on has own money and credit cards agogo and does not need a man who makes sexist jokes. Marriage can be whatever you wish to make it."

blimey there are some women on here who get very upset over a JOKE' please look at my other posts!!!!! please look at what I said BOTH earn

I love women, been marrived 33 years and wouldn't be without K for anything in the world!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Equality?

Man + Woman earn, Woman Spends = equality

come on all you married guys should know that!!!

How about woman leaves d*unk husband, husband grabs business she built. Woman moves on has own money and credit cards agogo and does not need a man who makes sexist jokes. Marriage can be whatever you wish to make it.

blimey there are some women on here who get very upset over a JOKE' please look at my other posts!!!!! please look at what I said BOTH earn

I love women, been marrived 33 years and wouldn't be without K for anything in the world!"

Some of us know that but just remember, some of us have had a very bad experience with a man and its left some very bitter women around, personally, i know all men aint alcoholic losers, nor cradle snatchers, money grabbers ummm hang on thats policitians

shame you are so far away

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By *andKCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk

I travel a lot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I travel a lot "

hush you will have me blushing

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

All of you who don't want to meet people much younger than yourselves are 100% right not to do so.

Those of you who don't want to meet people old enough to be your parents or grand parents are 100% not to do so.

The thread isn't about telling people that they should ignore thier own personal criteria, it is about people trying to impose that on others, say you don't want to meet X because they are too old or too young is perfectly acceptable, but those telling X he or she shouldn't be on this site because they are too young or too old is 100% wrong, it is thier choice.

If everyone thought they were too young or too old nobody would meet them so it wouldn't be and issue anyway.

Having an age criteria is healthy but some people have tried to impose thier own opinions and will by telling people they should not be swinging at thier age and should not be on the site and that was my point for the thread

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By *andKCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk


"I travel a lot

hush you will have me blushing "

oh I love a blushing lady xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All of you who don't want to meet people much younger than yourselves are 100% right not to do so.

Those of you who don't want to meet people old enough to be your parents or grand parents are 100% not to do so.

The thread isn't about telling people that they should ignore thier own personal criteria, it is about people trying to impose that on others, say you don't want to meet X because they are too old or too young is perfectly acceptable, but those telling X he or she shouldn't be on this site because they are too young or too old is 100% wrong, it is thier choice.

If everyone thought they were too young or too old nobody would meet them so it wouldn't be and issue anyway.

Having an age criteria is healthy but some people have tried to impose thier own opinions and will by telling people they should not be swinging at thier age and should not be on the site and that was my point for the thread"

Well ive re-read all the posts and aside from the mention of the married guys bit, i cant see anyone against anyone being on here, yes some of us have strong opinions to which you seem to feel that we have imposed our opinions on others, when really we havent, its an emotive subject that will get people saying how they feel, but equally we are not against anyone being on here because of their age, merely questioning their reasoning behind it. Dont forget that some of us are parents and some didnt mind the thought of their kids being here, others dont want it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

jeds right its each to there own ..... We all cant be the same and like same things thats what makes us all diffrent....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

As I said in the first post the topic was brought up by comments in other threads over a period of time, at the moment there is a thread running where an 18year old girl has asked for advice, there are others similar, here is one reply to that thread

I think I'm about to have a rant so if you're easily offended look away now. 18. Swinging. What has she got to look forward to? Get off the site, go to a club and flirt the night away in a skirt your mother would cringe at and too much eye make up. Hell fire, do I need to remind folk that she's only 2 years above the national age for consent. And she's on a bloody sex site. I know I'll get lots of 'oh leave her alone' comments after this but I don't care. I could cry for the young girls (and lads) on here that think watch a couple of porn movies and think they can re create that in their own lives. Go out. Get d*unk. Smoke in the back garden and eat a pack of polo mints so your parents won't smell it on you. Make friends at college. Get laid the usual way. Leave this stuff to the one's that fucked it all up first time round and need something a little extra to get them going!

Whatever happened to innocence. Very sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am putting my hands up here.

I think nothing of an older lady having fun with a much younger guy, but I cringe when I see older guys chasing much younger girls.

dont know why, but I do.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Although my personal preference is not to see the young on here. Its their lives their above the age of consent and it has nothing to do with anyone, flipping heck i was doing what some class as swinging experiences from the age of 14 and im still here, not bitter and twisted and enjoying myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

jed your a father and seeing it from that and allso been in alot of clubs over time jed and seen all sorts ... 18 is not old i had a family at 18 and a house to run and a job ... she is finding herself and i hope she will learn who she can trust and who she cant as like you and i know there some strange people out there ,,,, jed you live with a lady in her 20s your 50s some may look at that as not the right thing its .... what make you happy in life and living it to the full ,,, and taking care not to become a victim of others hang-ups ..... its each to there own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As I said in the first post the topic was brought up by comments in other threads over a period of time, at the moment there is a thread running where an 18year old girl has asked for advice, there are others similar, here is one reply to that thread

I think I'm about to have a rant so if you're easily offended look away now. 18. Swinging. What has she got to look forward to? Get off the site, go to a club and flirt the night away in a skirt your mother would cringe at and too much eye make up. Hell fire, do I need to remind folk that she's only 2 years above the national age for consent. And she's on a bloody sex site. I know I'll get lots of 'oh leave her alone' comments after this but I don't care. I could cry for the young girls (and lads) on here that think watch a couple of porn movies and think they can re create that in their own lives. Go out. Get d*unk. Smoke in the back garden and eat a pack of polo mints so your parents won't smell it on you. Make friends at college. Get laid the usual way. Leave this stuff to the one's that fucked it all up first time round and need something a little extra to get them going!

Whatever happened to innocence. Very sad "

You've nothing to apologise for as its not offensive, its your opinion and you have every right to say it, and i agree.

I was chatting to a guy on here, seemed okay, arranged to meet in Asda, alls well, then he said his daughter was coming down, could we change the time, not a problem says i, then i get a text "can my mate come, he's fit and genuine"!! Now at 49 im old and experienced enough to know not to meet them but is an 18 yr old? Whilst people think its safer on her, really it isnt any safer than the outside world, so to speak. From my experience on a social network type site, guys will lie about their age to chat young girls up, then what??? Luckily these idiots request friendship from women like me, and i report them, specially if they are like the guy today who is 34 but has friends as young as 13 on his list

so like i said, not offensive at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Equality?

Man + Woman earn, Woman Spends = equality

come on all you married guys should know that!!!

How about woman leaves d*unk husband, husband grabs business she built. Woman moves on has own money and credit cards agogo and does not need a man who makes sexist jokes. Marriage can be whatever you wish to make it.

blimey there are some women on here who get very upset over a JOKE' please look at my other posts!!!!! please look at what I said BOTH earn

I love women, been marrived 33 years and wouldn't be without K for anything in the world!"

Well if you give it out, better be prepared ......

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The matter of older men with younger women or older women with younger men is a whole subject on its own.

I am talking about young people in the same age group being able to use this site (as is the rules) without being told to leave because they are too young, if you disagree with this rule and want to tell 18, 19 year olds to leave then perhaps you should conuslt the site owners to raise the membership age limit. You should not assume responsibility as site moderators, site owners, site police and tell them to leave.

By you I mean anyone to whom the cap fits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

jed i am reading this and i under stand thay are young ,,,, but thay have the right to be here its up to them ..... some at 18 are alot older then there years in there head and body....... I have only been with people in 20s but i found them to be like normal swingers its not love its just a bit of fun. I know when i was 18 i would hate people telling me what to do i was finding out things myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People use "age is a number" ind the outside world but attraction thats exactly it, im not attracted to them because i dont want to be seen in public and have someone mistake them for one of my kids, thats just putting myself up for more bloody ridicule and as ive had that all my life, the hell would i do it on purpose.

Ive also grown up with the thought that when i was 20ish i went out with 20ish, when i was 30ish i went out with 30ish, and so forth, ive never been out with anyone much younger than me at all and i dont want to. Im not attracted to them and quite frankly, i abhor the thought, they are also the biggest group to make snide comments and jokes about me, shows how shallow and immature they truly are. I dont see that a 20 yr old has the maturity of a 40 yr old, for example, because if the truth be known, a 20 yr old hasnt had the life of a 40 yr old, therefore a 40 yr old has to come down to their level and thinks they are mature when really they are not. I want someone my own intellectual equal, experience etc etec, young people are not.

There ive said it, i despise younger vs older, i think its vile, i cant help it but as ive already said on here, each to his/her own."

time itself is a man made tool, so by that theory age really is irrelevant.

i dont give a toss about someone judging me, unless i have to answer to them or unless i personally offend them. i find that no matter what i do or how i look, someone will think they have a right to comment/judge, so I will stick to pleasing myself first and foremost.

as for experience, my nephew at the age of 19 is in the army and has done two tours of iraq, by comparisson his uncle, my brother in law, has lived in his home town all his life and wont even go abroad on holidays, has worked for the same retail firm since leaving school and has his life in a stagnant routine and my sister was and ih his first and only love...so who there has the most experience....???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've read the posts Jed is referring to, and get the gist of what he means. The 18 yr old girl is being advised to get off the site and the 19 yr old is not. Where is the equality in that?

However the mention of the 19 yr old boy is in relation to an older woman meeting with him, I think that support there is for the older woman, which has long been less popular in societies eyes.

So perhaps the question of equality is being addressed in that way.. Women are as entitled

as men to now see younger without being condemned, which hasn't always been the case.

I do understand the double standards in both forum posts, but if we chip away at some of societies preconceptions perhaps others will follow. Xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She has a right to be here like he do ,,,,,,,, and its wronge of them to ask her to go ,, as i said i was married with a family at 18 .... I new what i was doing and with same man very happy why cant she be in control of her own life too . I never see that post i wish i had.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I must have missed something as I haven't seen where people have asked young people to leave!

I've seen people saying they find it sad, myself included, and not wishing to play with them.

I don't have enough hours in the day to mind my own business let alone other peoples!

My preference is to play with people my own age, it says so on my profile.

Extremes in ages don't work for me: just wish the young that contact me wouldn't!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did see post and know now what this is about ... and still i think she has a right to be here and the 19s too ,,, Thay can pick who thay wish to play with .. could be people in there 20s lots on this site.... and yes like all of us thay need to take care ,,,,and have a safey net ready ...if thay need to get out fast ... so that need to be in place before meets alone. jo xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

'Discrimination' - most see this as a strong word, few feel comfortable using it because it often attracts backlash, many use their oratory skills to hide their personal discriminatory feelings behind 'morals', some suggest that levels of discrimination are acceptable, most dislike it in all it's forms, but some are genuinely oblivious to the fact the points they make MAY be considered discriminatory. One thing is for certain, different generations have different values.

I wonder what someone would think if they were reading this or the other thread mentioned in 10 or 20 yrs time........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We all discriminate because we all choose who to play or not play with. The site has set basic ground rules which seem to be generally acceptable to all, if you don't like them go find another site with ones you do like.

It is legal to have sex at 16.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

All in all it has been a good discussion, some people for younger people being welcome in the world of swinging and some against, a true reflection of life in general where we all quite rightly have our own views and I believe some good opinions for and against.

I respect everyones view as being thier personal opinion and think it is good that we are able to voice those opinions in a thread that has been without any personal attacks that have sometimes slipped into threads that can be provocative in thier very nature.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We all discriminate because we all choose who to play or not play with. The site has set basic ground rules which seem to be generally acceptable to all, if you don't like them go find another site with ones you do like.

It is legal to have sex at 16."

I think most people on here are happy with the 'set basic ground rules' of the site, I don't think that's in question. Equally choice is a basic right we all have and should protect, I don't think that is in question either. I do however believe that to 'condemn' an 18 year old for legally using this site is age discrimination.

I choose not to meet young women, my choice may be seen as discriminatory, I don't agree, but I do think it's unfair to suggest people outside of my prefered age group should 'off doing other things'...... hey what do I know, just my opinion.

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