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"Nope...but then we don't look to meet them. I actually think from my observation and the ones we do know and invite to our parties, that the knob heads and the whiners make it easier for the good guys to stand out and just quietly get on with being outstanding..." Voilà! Touché!  | |||
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X" 90 Percent arseholes/wanabees/adulterers ..the other 10 percent are ok | |||
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"I would say the majority ruin it for the few genuinely nice and respectful single males.....just my opinion "This | |||
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X90 Percent arseholes/wanabees/adulterers ..the other 10 percent are ok" I would like to officially out myself in the 90% category then. | |||
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"Yes I'm with you it spoils it for the ten present such as my self and a couple of other I know I'm not exactly a looking but I'm very genuine and honest and No should mean No guys "Its too hard to determine who the 10 percent are...so we dont bother | |||
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"Nope...but then we don't look to meet them. I actually think from my observation and the ones we do know and invite to our parties, that the knob heads and the whiners make it easier for the good guys to stand out and just quietly get on with being outstanding..." I totally agree with this! | |||
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"No I don't think they are! The good one's stand out trust me, and are easy to spot! The bad one's are also very easy to spot by just looking at my home page, with their disgusting crude and in the main disrespectful status messages along with cock pic after cock pic "And the sad thing is...they just cant see the wood through the trees,we find the majority just see women as a fuck and nothing else whilst a lot of them dont even have sex with their own wives and they treat her like shit whilst describing themselves in a profile as honest genuine and respectfull  | |||
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"No I don't think they are! The good one's stand out trust me, and are easy to spot! The bad one's are also very easy to spot by just looking at my home page, with their disgusting crude and in the main disrespectful status messages along with cock pic after cock pic And the sad thing is...they just cant see the wood through the trees,we find the majority just see women as a fuck and nothing else whilst a lot of them dont even have sex with their own wives and they treat her like shit whilst describing themselves in a profile as honest genuine and respectfull "Sounds exactly like my home page! | |||
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"I would say the majority ruin it for the few genuinely nice and respectful single males.....just my opinion "Agreed. | |||
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"I would say the majority ruin it for the few genuinely nice and respectful single males.....just my opinion
Agreed. "We'll second that | |||
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"I would say the majority ruin it for the few genuinely nice and respectful single males.....just my opinion
Agreed.
We'll second that " oooooo I do like getting agreed with.....doesn't happen often lol lol  | |||
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"The only person that spoils it for anyone is yourself, no one else spoils it for you, you are only accountable for your own actions no one elses." | |||
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"No I don't think they are! The good one's stand out trust me, and are easy to spot! The bad one's are also very easy to spot by just looking at my home page, with their disgusting crude and in the main disrespectful status messages along with cock pic after cock pic "This!
No single guy fucks things up for any other - it's a myth - or an excuse used by some guys to justify a lack of interest/responses/success.
Every single guy is responsible for his own actions. Nobody elses. His actions reflect on himself, Other peoples actions reflect them.
The sooner single guys realise this and focus on themselves the sooner they find life on here easier, more enjoyable and more interesting.
Those that don't realise this? They will go on blaming others when a little self reflection would make the world of difference.
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"No I don't think they are! The good one's stand out trust me, and are easy to spot! The bad one's are also very easy to spot by just looking at my home page, with their disgusting crude and in the main disrespectful status messages along with cock pic after cock pic
This!
No single guy fucks things up for any other - it's a myth - or an excuse used by some guys to justify a lack of interest/responses/success.
Every single guy is responsible for his own actions. Nobody elses. His actions reflect on himself, Other peoples actions reflect them.
The sooner single guys realise this and focus on themselves the sooner they find life on here easier, more enjoyable and more interesting.
Those that don't realise this? They will go on blaming others when a little self reflection would make the world of difference.
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"No I don't think they are! The good one's stand out trust me, and are easy to spot! The bad one's are also very easy to spot by just looking at my home page, with their disgusting crude and in the main disrespectful status messages along with cock pic after cock pic
This!
No single guy fucks things up for any other - it's a myth - or an excuse used by some guys to justify a lack of interest/responses/success.
Every single guy is responsible for his own actions. Nobody elses. His actions reflect on himself, Other peoples actions reflect them.
The sooner single guys realise this and focus on themselves the sooner they find life on here easier, more enjoyable and more interesting.
Those that don't realise this? They will go on blaming others when a little self reflection would make the world of difference.
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"There are a high percentage of single guys on here that spoil it for the rest of us. Probably why I dont message people for meets etc just general banter and a giggle. As I see it if someone reads my profile likes what they see they can send me a message or a wink. If not hey I still got the forums." | |||
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"I actually think the majority of blokes on here are fine, with the minority being the arseholes. My reasoning is that I only meet single men for sex and over the years have met a lot on here. In the 4 years I have been a member on here I have been stood up about 4 or 5 times. OK, that's still too many (its not nice being sat on your todd while your phone call goes straight to message), but surely that's a physical demonstration that they turn up more often than not. "See, I don't get not turning up for sex... Sex is great and not particularly scary.... It puzzles me. | |||
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"I actually think the majority of blokes on here are fine, with the minority being the arseholes. My reasoning is that I only meet single men for sex and over the years have met a lot on here. In the 4 years I have been a member on here I have been stood up about 4 or 5 times. OK, that's still too many (its not nice being sat on your todd while your phone call goes straight to message), but surely that's a physical demonstration that they turn up more often than not.
See, I don't get not turning up for sex... Sex is great and not particularly scary....
It puzzles me. "I suspect its because its me  | |||
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"I've been swinging for 6yrs and only ever been let down once. I am however very very fussy and wade through a lot of crap to choose good meets "And that's the magic rule. If people don't vet their choices carefully (I don't mean getting a private detective though), and just met the first 'wanna suck' message, then they will get a somewhat skewed opinion of the blokes on here. | |||
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"I've been swinging for 6yrs and only ever been let down once. I am however very very fussy and wade through a lot of crap to choose good meets
And that's the magic rule. If people don't vet their choices carefully (I don't mean getting a private detective though), and just met the first 'wanna suck' message, then they will get a somewhat skewed opinion of the blokes on here."Couldn't agree more | |||
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"The white knights are on a charge here,bum sucking a plenty "As usual. Predictable as sunrise. | |||
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X" sure..... if you based your life on stereotypes and generalisations... but in the real world... nah! my success or lack of isn't determined by someone else... and others are not determined by me.. that thinking to me is just lazy and leaves you blamesless and puts it all else... oh woe... sometimes the hardest thing to do is look in the mirror and say "what can I do better?" | |||
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X" In economics they would equate this to a simple 'supply an demand' formula. Unfortunately us single guys are plentiful in supply, therefore, undervalued on sites like this. I have had so many couples and female timewasters on here but the fellas don't moan about it because they are undervalued and can't afford to moan about it!!! The truth hurts ladies and couples! | |||
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"I actually think the majority of blokes on here are fine, with the minority being the arseholes. My reasoning is that I only meet single men for sex and over the years have met a lot on here. In the 4 years I have been a member on here I have been stood up about 4 or 5 times. OK, that's still too many (its not nice being sat on your todd while your phone call goes straight to message), but surely that's a physical demonstration that they turn up more often than not.
See, I don't get not turning up for sex... Sex is great and not particularly scary....
It puzzles me. "Depends who you're meeting though
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"I don't think the dickheads spoil anything for the people I do actually want to meet, but it probably makes me a lot quicker with the delete and blocks than I would be otherwise. " ^^^I agree! A lot is about applying common sense! Just a shame a lot of men blame it on the 'other guys!' | |||
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X" I think its a lot more than 1 or 2. Sadly its a good 50% spoiling it for the rest! | |||
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X" They certainly over estimate themselves, not under estimate, every guy on here is 100% genuine, will definitely show, is VWE, haha, truth is the majority, have average cocks, a wife at home, no intention of showing up, & prefer to wank off to cams, rather than enjoy the real thing, I mean why else wouldn't you show to a meet with my wife? | |||
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"No I don't think they are! The good one's stand out trust me, and are easy to spot! The bad one's are also very easy to spot by just looking at my home page, with their disgusting crude and in the main disrespectful status messages along with cock pic after cock pic
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No single guy fucks things up for any other - it's a myth - or an excuse used by some guys to justify a lack of interest/responses/success.
Every single guy is responsible for his own actions. Nobody elses. His actions reflect on himself, Other peoples actions reflect them.
The sooner single guys realise this and focus on themselves the sooner they find life on here easier, more enjoyable and more interesting.
Those that don't realise this? They will go on blaming others when a little self reflection would make the world of difference.
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X sure..... if you based your life on stereotypes and generalisations... but in the real world... nah! my success or lack of isn't determined by someone else... and others are not determined by me.. that thinking to me is just lazy and leaves you blamesless and puts it all else... oh woe... sometimes the hardest thing to do is look in the mirror and say "what can I do better?" "Ah , the stereotypical and generalised answer yet again . In truth , of course the 1 or 2 spoil it for the rest because the genuine guy often has to jump through hoops because of the dreamers and time wasters out there . I woukd guess 50% of the site are not really here to meet . And since single guys are a very high % it's inevitable they will be chastised more than other groups . It's a statistical certainty . For every single guy who actually turns up , there are more often than not , 2 more who say they will but have no intention of doing so . So we have to always have a back up plan , and our distrust grows . So should we blame our selection process ? We couldn't be more genuine , having never failed to show for a meet . It's not complicated , we advertise a meet , select the fella , and keep our fingers crossed that he will show ! If it weren't for the guys who let people down we wouldn't have to be so sceptical and genuine guys would have a much better time ! | |||
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"No. I take each man on his own merits not because he's been elevated by other's bad actions. No one can spoil it for you, but you yourself." oh so true .
In fact the idiots etc only serve to make the decent guys shine brighter. .
It's akin to panning for gold .load of rubbish to shift through , but you see that glint and you know you got a gem! | |||
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"Not if you know how to read a profile, I can usually tell who's genuine and not " I doubt that very much, they are all so eager & genuine, until push comes to shove, | |||
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X" Not just single guys, women & couples are equally as bad, without so much as a cancellation or anything, so don't feel the guys are all to blame, there are lots of fantasists on this & indeed All swinging sites, | |||
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"Yes I do, definitely! I know a few very good single guys who even I have prejudged on the basis of how I have seen one or two single men act before, who certainly don't belong in the swinging world or on this site. " Yes this has occasionally been a problem for me also but you can usually tell the genuine ones who have a few veris and good pics and profile. | |||
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X" I don't think we are under estimated - just over represented on a place like this. As a result, there will be a few 'bad eggs' amongst us - a small percentage of us can impact on a large percentage of the other groups (women, couples etc) so their perceptions can be altered. Thankfully, a lot of people are able to out the bad and get on with the good | |||
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X sure..... if you based your life on stereotypes and generalisations... but in the real world... nah! my success or lack of isn't determined by someone else... and others are not determined by me.. that thinking to me is just lazy and leaves you blamesless and puts it all else... oh woe... sometimes the hardest thing to do is look in the mirror and say "what can I do better?"
Ah , the stereotypical and generalised answer yet again .
In truth , of course the 1 or 2 spoil it for the rest because the genuine guy often has to jump through hoops because of the dreamers and time wasters out there .
I woukd guess 50% of the site are not really here to meet . And since single guys are a very high % it's inevitable they will be chastised more than other groups . It's a statistical certainty .
For every single guy who actually turns up , there are more often than not , 2 more who say they will but have no intention of doing so . So we have to always have a back up plan , and our distrust grows .
So should we blame our selection process ?
We couldn't be more genuine , having never failed to show for a meet . It's not complicated , we advertise a meet , select the fella , and keep our fingers crossed that he will show !
If it weren't for the guys who let people down we wouldn't have to be so sceptical and genuine guys would have a much better time !
"Minus the personal shot at Fabio's answer, this definitely describes our experiences with single males from the site as well. I dont know if "ruin" is the proper word for it, but we are most certainly more guarded and ask harder questions and have become a lot firmer and quicker to ignore or block because of it. Thats not a knock on single males, just the reality of our experiences here thus far. It is still a wonderful tool for finding like-minded people sometimes, which is plenty good for us. | |||
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"I would say the majority ruin it for the few genuinely nice and respectful single males.....just my opinion "Disagree entirely!! I find VERY few guys rude or objectionable! Most are lovely. I'm straight - so for me there'd be absolutely no point being on fab if there were no single guys!! Xxx | |||
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"I would say the majority ruin it for the few genuinely nice and respectful single males.....just my opinion
Disagree entirely!! I find VERY few guys rude or objectionable! Most are lovely. I'm straight - so for me there'd be absolutely no point being on fab if there were no single guys!! Xxx"Same for us | |||
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X sure..... if you based your life on stereotypes and generalisations... but in the real world... nah! my success or lack of isn't determined by someone else... and others are not determined by me.. that thinking to me is just lazy and leaves you blamesless and puts it all else... oh woe... sometimes the hardest thing to do is look in the mirror and say "what can I do better?"
Ah , the stereotypical and generalised answer yet again .
In truth , of course the 1 or 2 spoil it for the rest because the genuine guy often has to jump through hoops because of the dreamers and time wasters out there .
I woukd guess 50% of the site are not really here to meet . And since single guys are a very high % it's inevitable they will be chastised more than other groups . It's a statistical certainty .
For every single guy who actually turns up , there are more often than not , 2 more who say they will but have no intention of doing so . So we have to always have a back up plan , and our distrust grows .
So should we blame our selection process ?
We couldn't be more genuine , having never failed to show for a meet . It's not complicated , we advertise a meet , select the fella , and keep our fingers crossed that he will show !
If it weren't for the guys who let people down we wouldn't have to be so sceptical and genuine guys would have a much better time !
Minus the personal shot at Fabio's answer, this definitely describes our experiences with single males from the site as well. I dont know if "ruin" is the proper word for it, but we are most certainly more guarded and ask harder questions and have become a lot firmer and quicker to ignore or block because of it. Thats not a knock on single males, just the reality of our experiences here thus far. It is still a wonderful tool for finding like-minded people sometimes, which is plenty good for us. "
I agree the no-shows and time wasters make you screen single men more thoroughly than before but that can hardly be interpreted as "ruining" it for us.
It just means the selection process is more stringent, and that is no bad thing, nor should it disadvantage the genuine single guys. | |||
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X" The only person who spoils things for me on here,,, would be me if others judge me by others actions that's not something I can control so I don't worry about it | |||
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X sure..... if you based your life on stereotypes and generalisations... but in the real world... nah! my success or lack of isn't determined by someone else... and others are not determined by me.. that thinking to me is just lazy and leaves you blamesless and puts it all else... oh woe... sometimes the hardest thing to do is look in the mirror and say "what can I do better?"
Ah , the stereotypical and generalised answer yet again .
In truth , of course the 1 or 2 spoil it for the rest because the genuine guy often has to jump through hoops because of the dreamers and time wasters out there .
I woukd guess 50% of the site are not really here to meet . And since single guys are a very high % it's inevitable they will be chastised more than other groups . It's a statistical certainty .
For every single guy who actually turns up , there are more often than not , 2 more who say they will but have no intention of doing so . So we have to always have a back up plan , and our distrust grows .
So should we blame our selection process ?
We couldn't be more genuine , having never failed to show for a meet . It's not complicated , we advertise a meet , select the fella , and keep our fingers crossed that he will show !
If it weren't for the guys who let people down we wouldn't have to be so sceptical and genuine guys would have a much better time !
Minus the personal shot at Fabio's answer, this definitely describes our experiences with single males from the site as well. I dont know if "ruin" is the proper word for it, but we are most certainly more guarded and ask harder questions and have become a lot firmer and quicker to ignore or block because of it. Thats not a knock on single males, just the reality of our experiences here thus far. It is still a wonderful tool for finding like-minded people sometimes, which is plenty good for us.
I agree the no-shows and time wasters make you screen single men more thoroughly than before but that can hardly be interpreted as "ruining" it for us.
It just means the selection process is more stringent, and that is no bad thing, nor should it disadvantage the genuine single guys. "if people want to jump thru extra hoops to get meets... thats up to then, if a couple told me to do something I wouldn't normally do in order to get a meet.... I would tell them which hoop they should jump thru!!! if couples want to then work on stereotypes and generalisations, that says more about them.... the truth is guys can find ways to stand up and stand out WITHOUT having to become a lackey, or kiss arse, or whatever.... sometimes it is the little things rather than the biggies... and to honest, i wouldn't change a single thing, because the arses now do stand out as much as the good guys..... so should you blame your selection process.... as much as anything else!!! because if your selection process was infallable... you wouldn't have brought it up! it is as much on you as it is on me, or any other person.....
my selection process has gotten better thru time.... and that is as much on me working out "what am i after" and saying "what can i do to improve myself and my chances" | |||
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"I would say the majority ruin it for the few genuinely nice and respectful single males.....just my opinion "Very observant and so true | |||
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"Yeah, like the one I met on Monday who turned up again at my house uninvited this evening !" See ! Considerate and thoughtful too | |||
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"im a genuine single male on here and no mater what I send don't get no were lately my profile is ok not bad pics so im told but every message I send gets no were so its getting hard" So a lack of response is a turn on ? | |||
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"im a genuine single male on here and no mater what I send don't get no were lately my profile is ok not bad pics so im told but every message I send gets no were so its getting hard" don't let fabs be your only tool to meet people, combine it with club visits / party meets ~ you'll get your name out there, build up a social network & have fun at the same time.....simples! | |||
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"I find the last year there has been an influx of single guys that are time wasters , which makes it harder for single genuine guys even with good veris x" I don't subscribe to the theory that other people affect my chances of meeting, and wonder how it is that you would know if there has been an influx of single guys who are time-wasters...How have they wasted your time? | |||
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"Due to 1 or 2 spoiling it for the rest ? X" Yes, Although For us it's less underestimated,more untrusted. A promiscuous male will be regarded a stud, A promiscuous female a slut. with that in mind,it's perhaps understandable why for them, discretion is seen as less essential, than it is for almost every other swinging group. So while it's true, to stereotype, or tarr all single males with the same brush, is unfair, it is also the safest option. Maybe if they tried looking at things, from the perspective of the other swinging groups, would help them understand the reason,they are _iewed with so much mistrust,and caution.
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