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"Is there a wave of conservatism overtaking fab? Your thoughts please " No. | |||
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"Not that I've noticed. Do you mean the forums, or the photos, or the attitudes of the people you chat to? Forums, in the main. The forums don't seem a fair reflection on what's going on in the mainstream. For example, I recently saw a thread about Socials. To read the Forums, you'd think they were the norm. In reality, they are rare - at least in my and Jane's experience! That's just one example though " They're not rare at all...I don't really pay that much attention but there's one in York every 2 months, I think the Wakefield one is monthly...Hull has regular ones too...as does Newcastle... not all are necessarily advertised on forums... | |||
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"Not that I've noticed. Do you mean the forums, or the photos, or the attitudes of the people you chat to? Forums, in the main. The forums don't seem a fair reflection on what's going on in the mainstream. For example, I recently saw a thread about Socials. To read the Forums, you'd think they were the norm. In reality, they are rare - at least in my and Jane's experience! That's just one example though " And the forum attracts only a very small percentage of members...so couldn't really be seen as a representative sample... | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like" We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! " Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like" Yep. Plenty do just that. Plenty also just meet for fun with no socials prior to meeting. Plenty also just meet at clubs. Plenty also meet at house parties. There's no rules, no one size fits all and no right or wrong. Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it's not happening. A | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest?" Do you feel that's a good or bad thing? | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? Do you feel that's a good or bad thing?" It is a surprising, rather than good or bad, thing to find on a swingers site! That said it is invariably the Conservative crowd who fault find too readily and easily with others, which is disappointing Live and let live is more an attitude you would expect from swingers | |||
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"... Live and let live is more an attitude you would expect from swingers" You're joking?! | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest?" People doing things differently to you isn't 'conservatism' And one weak example is hardly indicative of a trend | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest?" Ah ok, gotcha now. Well I'm one of those who does like to meet someone for coffee or whatever first. That's mainly for me to see if I get on with them enough in real life to want to let my non- conservative side out and fuck them. I'm not sure if that makes me more or less boring and traditional and conservative than someone else but it works for me so I don't particularly care. I disagree that this is becoming more prevalent though, when I've seen questions about social meets first or not posted there's been a huge range of views expressed. Everyone works out what suits them so I'm sure there'll be people who do things the way you'd prefer. | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? People doing things differently to you isn't 'conservatism' And one weak example is hardly indicative of a trend" You only have to read about my barebacking thread to see how conservative attitudes are. Sadly the general condemnation means those who practice it often hide that fact and even tick the 'Safe Sex' option, for fear of being castigated. Just another example | |||
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"Are you meaning conservative with a small c or Conservative? Different things. " Not wholly unrelated, I would suggest! The two tend to go hand in hand | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? Do you feel that's a good or bad thing? It is a surprising, rather than good or bad, thing to find on a swingers site! That said it is invariably the Conservative crowd who fault find too readily and easily with others, which is disappointing Live and let live is more an attitude you would expect from swingers" I understand now. The point of this thread is because you feel that people have ganged up on you and you are finding myriad ways to point that out. I'm sorry you feel that way. Best wishes on your fab journey. | |||
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" those who practice it often hide that fact and even tick the 'Safe Sex' option, for fear of being castigated. Just another example " But that's exactly what you've done? Ticked the safe sex box and then started a thread telling everyone that you preferred bareback sex? | |||
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"Are you meaning conservative with a small c or Conservative? Different things. Not wholly unrelated, I would suggest! The two tend to go hand in hand " Not necessarily. Plenty of, for example, old Labour supporters with very traditional social attitudes and values which I'd suggest could be described as conservative. Is what your really describing judgemental, rather than conservative? | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? People doing things differently to you isn't 'conservatism' And one weak example is hardly indicative of a trend You only have to read about my barebacking thread to see how conservative attitudes are. Sadly the general condemnation means those who practice it often hide that fact and even tick the 'Safe Sex' option, for fear of being castigated. Just another example " Oh please... So 2 threads one on conservatism and one on cliques because a thread on a contentious issue didn't go your way So people practicing safe sex is conservatism? Seriously most people call it common sense | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? People doing things differently to you isn't 'conservatism' And one weak example is hardly indicative of a trend You only have to read about my barebacking thread to see how conservative attitudes are. Sadly the general condemnation means those who practice it often hide that fact and even tick the 'Safe Sex' option, for fear of being castigated. Just another example " I read it. I didn't see conservatism. I saw people acknowledging it exists and stating their preferences. Of course it happens. But as was said it's the responsibility of us all to look after ourselves - not others. I also find it ironic that you are so vocal about your preferences yet do as you accuse others of. But a tick in a box makes no difference to most. Common sense is a far more useful tool. A | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? Do you feel that's a good or bad thing? It is a surprising, rather than good or bad, thing to find on a swingers site! That said it is invariably the Conservative crowd who fault find too readily and easily with others, which is disappointing Live and let live is more an attitude you would expect from swingers I understand now. The point of this thread is because you feel that people have ganged up on you and you are finding myriad ways to point that out. I'm sorry you feel that way. Best wishes on your fab journey." (that's assuming I'm allowed to agree with someone else without being accused of ganging up on the OP) | |||
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"I agree. The amount of messages I get from Cameron, Portillo, Hague and that dodgy one is unreal. Very unreal in fact. " Is portillo conservative I thought he was into BBC nowadays. | |||
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"I agree. The amount of messages I get from Cameron, Portillo, Hague and that dodgy one is unreal. Very unreal in fact. Is portillo conservative I thought he was into BBC nowadays." Isn't nearly everyone on here into BBC, though? | |||
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"So we should all be barebacking and avoid socials as we are not real swingers otherwise. Personally I'll run my profile for me just like you run yours for you. Incidentally still no mention of barebacking on your profile and still lists safe sex as an interest. Will your next thread be about dishonest profiles?" Check my single profile. And be aware Jane and I will be using condoms at meets. Is that ok? | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? People doing things differently to you isn't 'conservatism' And one weak example is hardly indicative of a trend You only have to read about my barebacking thread to see how conservative attitudes are. Sadly the general condemnation means those who practice it often hide that fact and even tick the 'Safe Sex' option, for fear of being castigated. Just another example Oh please... So 2 threads one on conservatism and one on cliques because a thread on a contentious issue didn't go your way So people practicing safe sex is conservatism? Seriously most people call it common sense" No. You're wrong. I have been thinking the forum posters were a cliquey lot and quite conservative for quite some time | |||
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"So we should all be barebacking and avoid socials as we are not real swingers otherwise. Personally I'll run my profile for me just like you run yours for you. Incidentally still no mention of barebacking on your profile and still lists safe sex as an interest. Will your next thread be about dishonest profiles? Check my single profile. And be aware Jane and I will be using condoms at meets. Is that ok?" So I take it Jane won't fuck you bareback or swallow your cum seeing as you go bareback when meeting on your single profile? | |||
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"So we should all be barebacking and avoid socials as we are not real swingers otherwise. Personally I'll run my profile for me just like you run yours for you. Incidentally still no mention of barebacking on your profile and still lists safe sex as an interest. Will your next thread be about dishonest profiles? Check my single profile. And be aware Jane and I will be using condoms at meets. Is that ok? So I take it Jane won't fuck you bareback or swallow your cum seeing as you go bareback when meeting on your single profile?" What?????? Lol | |||
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"I don't know. I'm a political know nothing " You should run for president of fab then. | |||
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"So we should all be barebacking and avoid socials as we are not real swingers otherwise. Personally I'll run my profile for me just like you run yours for you. Incidentally still no mention of barebacking on your profile and still lists safe sex as an interest. Will your next thread be about dishonest profiles? Check my single profile. And be aware Jane and I will be using condoms at meets. Is that ok? So I take it Jane won't fuck you bareback or swallow your cum seeing as you go bareback when meeting on your single profile? What?????? Lol" What don't you understand? | |||
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"Is there a wave of conservatism overtaking fab? Your thoughts please " What do you mean by conservatism? Do you have some examples please? | |||
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"Is there a wave of conservatism overtaking fab? Your thoughts please What do you mean by conservatism? Do you have some examples please?" To many people with glasshouse extensions. Really fucking winds me up too. | |||
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"Is there a wave of conservatism overtaking fab? Your thoughts please What do you mean by conservatism? Do you have some examples please? To many people with glasshouse extensions. Really fucking winds me up too. " A | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? People doing things differently to you isn't 'conservatism' And one weak example is hardly indicative of a trend You only have to read about my barebacking thread to see how conservative attitudes are. Sadly the general condemnation means those who practice it often hide that fact and even tick the 'Safe Sex' option, for fear of being castigated. Just another example Oh please... So 2 threads one on conservatism and one on cliques because a thread on a contentious issue didn't go your way So people practicing safe sex is conservatism? Seriously most people call it common sense No. You're wrong. I have been thinking the forum posters were a cliquey lot and quite conservative for quite some time" Ok so give me some other examples of conservatism? Though I repeat my point that not agreeing with someone is not conservatism The forum accepts people of all genders all sexual persuasions, let's us talk about all manner of kink and sexual preferences, it allows debate on all manner of topics, little is censored, very little is taboo (unless it's illegal), moderation is almost always linked to behaviour not topic - so how is tge forum conservative? | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? People doing things differently to you isn't 'conservatism' And one weak example is hardly indicative of a trend You only have to read about my barebacking thread to see how conservative attitudes are. Sadly the general condemnation means those who practice it often hide that fact and even tick the 'Safe Sex' option, for fear of being castigated. Just another example Oh please... So 2 threads one on conservatism and one on cliques because a thread on a contentious issue didn't go your way So people practicing safe sex is conservatism? Seriously most people call it common sense No. You're wrong. I have been thinking the forum posters were a cliquey lot and quite conservative for quite some time Ok so give me some other examples of conservatism? Though I repeat my point that not agreeing with someone is not conservatism The forum accepts people of all genders all sexual persuasions, let's us talk about all manner of kink and sexual preferences, it allows debate on all manner of topics, little is censored, very little is taboo (unless it's illegal), moderation is almost always linked to behaviour not topic - so how is tge forum conservative?" Thought you didn't want to talk to me? | |||
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"So we should all be barebacking and avoid socials as we are not real swingers otherwise. Personally I'll run my profile for me just like you run yours for you. Incidentally still no mention of barebacking on your profile and still lists safe sex as an interest. Will your next thread be about dishonest profiles? Check my single profile. And be aware Jane and I will be using condoms at meets. Is that ok? So I take it Jane won't fuck you bareback or swallow your cum seeing as you go bareback when meeting on your single profile? What?????? Lol What don't you understand?" Why you think Jane won't let me fuck her bareback??? | |||
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"So we should all be barebacking and avoid socials as we are not real swingers otherwise. Personally I'll run my profile for me just like you run yours for you. Incidentally still no mention of barebacking on your profile and still lists safe sex as an interest. Will your next thread be about dishonest profiles? Check my single profile. And be aware Jane and I will be using condoms at meets. Is that ok? So I take it Jane won't fuck you bareback or swallow your cum seeing as you go bareback when meeting on your single profile? What?????? Lol What don't you understand? Why you think Jane won't let me fuck her bareback??? " Because you've just said you will both be wearing condoms at meets yet she lets you fuck her after going bareback with other women? Now why would she do that? Whats the difference? | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? People doing things differently to you isn't 'conservatism' And one weak example is hardly indicative of a trend You only have to read about my barebacking thread to see how conservative attitudes are. Sadly the general condemnation means those who practice it often hide that fact and even tick the 'Safe Sex' option, for fear of being castigated. Just another example " I think you find people conservative because they do not do barebacking. I think that is unfair, people weigh up the risks and decide that it isn't for them, either through experience or just general advice. Because they do not agree with your mindset does not make them 'squares' | |||
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"Are you meaning conservative with a small c or Conservative? Different things. Not wholly unrelated, I would suggest! The two tend to go hand in hand " Not at all in my opinion...Conservative and pretty uninhibited here | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? People doing things differently to you isn't 'conservatism' And one weak example is hardly indicative of a trend You only have to read about my barebacking thread to see how conservative attitudes are. Sadly the general condemnation means those who practice it often hide that fact and even tick the 'Safe Sex' option, for fear of being castigated. Just another example I think you find people conservative because they do not do barebacking. I think that is unfair, people weigh up the risks and decide that it isn't for them, either through experience or just general advice. Because they do not agree with your mindset does not make them 'squares' " You're wrong. It is their right to use protection and that's fair enough. It's conservative because of the castigation of those that bb. That simply means those that bb are loath to admit it. For example, my post asked for people to admit they bb when swinging. How many did? Count them! They were put off by the above attitudes. Simple as that | |||
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"I'm friends with a Conservative. " Throw her out? Where is my pitch fork? You can never get a good mob when you need one. | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? People doing things differently to you isn't 'conservatism' And one weak example is hardly indicative of a trend You only have to read about my barebacking thread to see how conservative attitudes are. Sadly the general condemnation means those who practice it often hide that fact and even tick the 'Safe Sex' option, for fear of being castigated. Just another example I think you find people conservative because they do not do barebacking. I think that is unfair, people weigh up the risks and decide that it isn't for them, either through experience or just general advice. Because they do not agree with your mindset does not make them 'squares' You're wrong. It is their right to use protection and that's fair enough. It's conservative because of the castigation of those that bb. That simply means those that bb are loath to admit it. For example, my post asked for people to admit they bb when swinging. How many did? Count them! They were put off by the above attitudes. Simple as that " Or they in fact don't! Simple as that too!! A | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? People doing things differently to you isn't 'conservatism' And one weak example is hardly indicative of a trend You only have to read about my barebacking thread to see how conservative attitudes are. Sadly the general condemnation means those who practice it often hide that fact and even tick the 'Safe Sex' option, for fear of being castigated. Just another example Oh please... So 2 threads one on conservatism and one on cliques because a thread on a contentious issue didn't go your way So people practicing safe sex is conservatism? Seriously most people call it common sense No. You're wrong. I have been thinking the forum posters were a cliquey lot and quite conservative for quite some time Ok so give me some other examples of conservatism? Though I repeat my point that not agreeing with someone is not conservatism The forum accepts people of all genders all sexual persuasions, let's us talk about all manner of kink and sexual preferences, it allows debate on all manner of topics, little is censored, very little is taboo (unless it's illegal), moderation is almost always linked to behaviour not topic - so how is tge forum conservative? Thought you didn't want to talk to me?" Not at all. Happy to discuss anything publicly in the forums | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like We hope this isn't the case . We are well known round here for not doing socials ! Plenty of other sites for meeting up for a coffee ! Precisely! Yet many were saying they had to meet for a coffee, chat etc for a first meet then meet again another time. Conservative, I'd suggest? People doing things differently to you isn't 'conservatism' And one weak example is hardly indicative of a trend You only have to read about my barebacking thread to see how conservative attitudes are. Sadly the general condemnation means those who practice it often hide that fact and even tick the 'Safe Sex' option, for fear of being castigated. Just another example I think you find people conservative because they do not do barebacking. I think that is unfair, people weigh up the risks and decide that it isn't for them, either through experience or just general advice. Because they do not agree with your mindset does not make them 'squares' You're wrong. It is their right to use protection and that's fair enough. It's conservative because of the castigation of those that bb. That simply means those that bb are loath to admit it. For example, my post asked for people to admit they bb when swinging. How many did? Count them! They were put off by the above attitudes. Simple as that " Put off by the attitudes? Or simply don't bareback? | |||
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" For example, my post asked for people to admit they bb when swinging. How many did? Count them! They were put off by the above attitudes. Simple as that Put off by the attitudes? Or simply don't bareback?" This is where the problem arose [pardon the pun] but the OP point blank refused to accept when people said they didn't/no longer have bareback sex | |||
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"Are you meaning conservative with a small c or Conservative? Different things. Not wholly unrelated, I would suggest! The two tend to go hand in hand Not at all in my opinion...Conservative and pretty uninhibited here " You're not alone either, in my experience | |||
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"what about those who on here are sometimes referred to as being members of the 'pc brigade'.. pinko lefty sandal wearing soft on crime do gooding liberals is another one.. who also disagree with the OP..? its bloody exclusion I tells ya.. " That's how my other half describes me! | |||
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"I'm friends with a Conservative. Throw her out? Where is my pitch fork? You can never get a good mob when you need one." She fancies Jeremy Clarkson too.... | |||
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"what about those who on here are sometimes referred to as being members of the 'pc brigade'.. pinko lefty sandal wearing soft on crime do gooding liberals is another one.. who also disagree with the OP..? its bloody exclusion I tells ya.. That's how my other half describes me! " tell him ty for the 'badge of honour'.. | |||
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"I'm friends with a Conservative. Throw her out? Where is my pitch fork? You can never get a good mob when you need one. She fancies Jeremy Clarkson too.... " fuck she needs help.. | |||
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"I think you find people conservative because they do not do barebacking. I think that is unfair, people weigh up the risks and decide that it isn't for them, either through experience or just general advice. Because they do not agree with your mindset does not make them 'squares' You're wrong. It is their right to use protection and that's fair enough. It's conservative because of the castigation of those that bb. That simply means those that bb are loath to admit it. For example, my post asked for people to admit they bb when swinging. How many did? Count them! They were put off by the above attitudes. Simple as that " No I am not wrong, people do not agree with you so you call them names. It's the equivalent of a man telling everyone a woman is frigid for not sleeping with him. You use the point that no one will openly admit that they bareback. People do not have to tell you the truth, it is their business, same as it's yours if you go bare. No one in their right mind is going to shout their private business just to support your viewpoint and you can not expect them too???? You need to understand that it is not socially acceptable to go bareback, same as it is not socially acceptable to smoke or use a phone when driving. By understanding this you show you respect someones right to make that decision, same as most will respect your right to live your sex life how you want. But again we are social animals, just because you have the right to live your sex life how you want doesn't mean that society will not judge you. But how do you not be judged...oh yes by keeping your private life private which feeds back to my point in the first paragraph. | |||
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"Is there a wave of conservatism overtaking fab? Your thoughts please What do you mean by conservatism? Do you have some examples please?" No reply OP? | |||
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"I'm friends with a Conservative. Throw her out? Where is my pitch fork? You can never get a good mob when you need one. She fancies Jeremy Clarkson too.... fuck she needs help.." Yup! | |||
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"I wouldn't arrange a proper meet (to have sex) without meeting them for a quick coffee social first. I have to see people in the flesh first before I decide if I'm going to sleep with them, need to see if I'm going to get on with them and also to confirm they are actually the person in their pictures. " | |||
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"I wouldn't arrange a proper meet (to have sex) without meeting them for a quick coffee social first. I have to see people in the flesh first before I decide if I'm going to sleep with them, need to see if I'm going to get on with them and also to confirm they are actually the person in their pictures. " | |||
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"Meant socials as in individual meets. People meeting for coffee and the like" We always have socials first...maybe it's about what you ask for from people? | |||
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