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"If gay men are supposed to like men, they why the hell do they act like women. " I can't for the life of me why guys would want to be like women ... Kirsty xxx xxx | |||
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"Real men. If one thing utterly fucks me off it's screaming queen types. I *do not* get it. If gay men are supposed to like men, they why the hell do they act like women. " My son is gay and proud.. And he doesnt act like a woman! Not all gay men do as you put it! | |||
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"Real men. If one thing utterly fucks me off it's screaming queen types. I *do not* get it. If gay men are supposed to like men, they why the hell do they act like women. My son is gay and proud.. And he doesnt act like a woman! Not all gay men do as you put it!" Screaming queens?!! Nice! | |||
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"Real men. If one thing utterly fucks me off it's screaming queen types. I *do not* get it. If gay men are supposed to like men, they why the hell do they act like women. " mass generalisation or what?? Sheesh! | |||
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"Real men. If one thing utterly fucks me off it's screaming queen types. I *do not* get it. If gay men are supposed to like men, they why the hell do they act like women. My son is gay and proud.. And he doesnt act like a woman! Not all gay men do as you put it! Screaming queens?!! Nice! " Thats what i thought.. There is nothing like steriotyping people.. Took a lot of courage for my son to come out to his family and friends,when i see comments like that makes me mad. | |||
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"ok, we're going on about gay men, so why has the OP, put this under a Bisexual header " Nope I asked what type of men bisexual guys were attracted to ... I am interested to know if being bisexual may effect what kind of men they prefer as opposed to gay men. I wonder if being attracted to females and men means bisexual guys may prefer T-Girls who present a degree of femininity .... effeminate men (screaming queens in some cases perhaps) .... or if they just like straight acting guys. Kirsty xxx xxx | |||
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"Real men. If one thing utterly fucks me off it's screaming queen types. I *do not* get it. If gay men are supposed to like men, they why the hell do they act like women. My son is gay and proud.. And he doesnt act like a woman! Not all gay men do as you put it! Screaming queens?!! Nice! Thats what i thought.. There is nothing like steriotyping people.. Took a lot of courage for my son to come out to his family and friends,when i see comments like that makes me mad." To be fair to Englandandportugal here .... the way I read his post is not labelling all gay men as screaming queens ... but rather he doesn't understand the section of the gay community that do exude a large degree of campness .... It does take a great degree of courage to come out to friends and family and it's good to see that your son has your support .... Kirsty xxx xxx | |||
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"Real men. If one thing utterly fucks me off it's screaming queen types. I *do not* get it. If gay men are supposed to like men, they why the hell do they act like women. My son is gay and proud.. And he doesnt act like a woman! Not all gay men do as you put it! Screaming queens?!! Nice! Thats what i thought.. There is nothing like steriotyping people.. Took a lot of courage for my son to come out to his family and friends,when i see comments like that makes me mad. To be fair to Englandandportugal here .... the way I read his post is not labelling all gay men as screaming queens ... but rather he doesn't understand the section of the gay community that do exude a large degree of campness .... It does take a great degree of courage to come out to friends and family and it's good to see that your son has your support .... Kirsty xxx xxx " Nowhere in my post did I state it referred to all gay men - it was the term "screaming queens" I didn't like. | |||
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"We from my point of view its more about cock than anything else im not attracted to guys but if a cock is there in the sexual situation then i enjoy playing. Im not sure if that makes me bi but its what i like. So if a guys manly or effeminate it makes no differance. " What he says. Dan too. Don't stand aroundin bars thinking 'he's fit' but in good old fashioned MFM/MMF/FMM Bi group thang Dan enjoys cock & pussy & tits & bums &..........filthy bugger. Literally lol | |||
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"Do you prefer your men to be real men or something more effeminate ... ? Are you actually attracted to men or just the concept of cock .... ? Kirsty xxx xxx" in reply to the OP ,in my case i would say just the concept of cock, there isn't a guy i have ever seen, in real life of even famous as in film, TV stars or what ever that i would say i fancy in the slightest, in every day life i have never meet or looked at a guy and thought "wouldn't mind a bit with him" or anything like that, the bi thing with me is a have a fair few fantasy's (don't we all) and a few of them involve cock, a cock attached to a normal acting man | |||
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"I really don’t understand why people have to confuse sexuality with character type! A male may be anything from Macho/Masculine to Sugar-plumb-fairy but in fact this doesn’t say anything about his sexuality but of course people will ‘assume’! Totally agree with you there There are transvestites who are 100% heterosexual, there are gays who are celibate, just about every and any combination one might think of exists. The same applies to females, character wise they may be anything from very feminine to Tomboy, it says NOTHING about their sexuality as you will find straight, bisexual and gay in all variations. Typically in the swinging hobby bisexual means hetero-flexible, meaning that they are only interested in the same sex – when its in a sexual context. Its not rocket science, just stop pigeonholing people. When you meet a person, either you like them or you don’t, simple really. If you like or dislike a person because of their sexuality then maybe you’re in the wrong hobby." | |||
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"I really don’t understand why people have to confuse sexuality with character type! A male may be anything from Macho/Masculine to Sugar-plumb-fairy but in fact this doesn’t say anything about his sexuality but of course people will ‘assume’! There are transvestites who are 100% heterosexual, there are gays who are celibate, just about every and any combination one might think of exists. The same applies to females, character wise they may be anything from very feminine to Tomboy, it says NOTHING about their sexuality as you will find straight, bisexual and gay in all variations. Typically in the swinging hobby bisexual means hetero-flexible, meaning that they are only interested in the same sex – when its in a sexual context. Its not rocket science, just stop pigeonholing people. When you meet a person, either you like them or you don’t, simple really. If you like or dislike a person because of their sexuality then maybe you’re in the wrong hobby." You're assuming all swingers play the same! I play with straight sub men who yearn to be dominated and used for my pleasure. The look of horror, the colour drain from their face as I show them what is in store for them is a major turn on for me. A bi guy is happy at the thought, robbing me of the thrill of his fear and humiliation. That's what works for me and my playmates, it's not about disliking someone because of their sexuality, their sexuality means they don't react in a way that pleases me, and I'm doing what pleases me! | |||
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"If gay men are supposed to like men, they why the hell do they act like women. I can't for the life of me why guys would want to be like women ... Kirsty xxx xxx" me neither, but we met this cracker and I am glad we did. | |||
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" I wonder if being attracted to females and men means bisexual guys may prefer T-Girls who present a degree of femininity .... Kirsty xxx xxx" I know a T Girl I quite fancy, and the degree of femininity is quite awesome and I wouldnt want to see that stripped away at all. | |||
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" The look of horror, the colour drain from their face as I show them what is in store for them is a major turn on for me. A bi guy is happy at the thought, robbing me of the thrill of his fear and humiliation. " Do you make them watch Loose Women .... ? Kirsty xxx xxx | |||
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" It has nothing to do with looks (although for me if you look my old headmaster you have scored lol!) " Do I look like your old Headmaster ....? Kirsty xxx xxx | |||
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" The look of horror, the colour drain from their face as I show them what is in store for them is a major turn on for me. A bi guy is happy at the thought, robbing me of the thrill of his fear and humiliation. Do you make them watch Loose Women .... ? Kirsty xxx xxx" That would be taking bdsm a step too far! | |||
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" Do I look like your old Headmaster ....? Kirsty xxx xxx" Hun - he wishes Actually he probably wishes he was alive as the old bugger no doubt is pushing up the daisies now - no doubt perving young cock somewhere in heaven/hell x | |||
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" Do I look like your old Headmaster ....? Kirsty xxx xxx Hun - he wishes Actually he probably wishes he was alive as the old bugger no doubt is pushing up the daisies now - no doubt perving young cock somewhere in heaven/hell x " Sigh .... oh well, at least I can hold onto my chastity. Kirsty xxx xxx | |||
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"I don't see the appeal of Gloryholes at all." nor me...someone with a nice warm mouth is inviting, until he takes a knife and slashes my cock off. yu kinda lose the moment then. | |||
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"lol, do crossdressers and transsexuals find that its mostly bi lads rather than gay lads that fancy them I wonder?" Oh No ... They are all "straight" ... So they tell me .... Generally, bisexual guys .... often married and who are exploring a "secret" desire ... Hence the question on this site .... as opposed to a transgendered orientated site where the answer (so far at least) has been different. Gay guys just don't get T-Girls ... and can sometimes be more aggressive in expressing their distaste than straight guys ... Kirsty xxx xxx | |||
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"Doesn’t heterosexual mean exactly that??? Didn’t know heterosexuals enjoyed bisexual experiences, regardless of how at ease they are with their sexuality. " Then you don't know as much as you thought you did. And you've learned something. So it's been a good day. | |||
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" But the only thing i've learned is that everyone who is at ease with their sexuality seems to be straight so are all bisexuals really straight and hiding behind the bi label " Erm - work out the double negative in that statement, and then come back with which bit you want answered. | |||
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"the second part will do are all bisexuals really straight and just hiding behind the bi label" Well, in a nutshell, yes and no. It depends on who your bisexual is, whether they regard, recognise or use bisexuality as a 'label' and how much definition of themselves they take from their sexual preferences on any given day. So yes, your bisexual COULD be straight but hiding behind the bi label. Or indeed the reverse. Why? You'd need to ask the bisexual in question. | |||
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"Have we been here before? " In the words of famous funksters The Average White Band - 'Let's go round again'. | |||
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"the second part will do are all bisexuals really straight and just hiding behind the bi label Well, in a nutshell, yes and no. It depends on who your bisexual is, whether they regard, recognise or use bisexuality as a 'label' and how much definition of themselves they take from their sexual preferences on any given day. So yes, your bisexual COULD be straight but hiding behind the bi label. Or indeed the reverse. Why? You'd need to ask the bisexual in question. " I’m genuinely intrigued as to why 3 labels cover bisexually within swinging, I just don’t like over complicating things, and agree not everyone likes labels, but why not choose one that best describes them? Buy the way, did I tell you I’m a virgin, well except when the mood takes me | |||
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"It all seems very complicated where for us it is quite simple We both love to play with women and we also love to have a willy to play with iideally doing a double bj... Does that make us bi or just adaptable.. Not sure, bi suits us as long as we play... " That's all well and good. But you HAVE to choose a label. It's the law, dontcha know?? And once you've chosen your label you HAVE to stick to it - no changing your mind or going back, no keeping the receipt just in case. What would happen if everyone just did what they felt like when they were in the mood for it, but didnt bother if they didnt feel like it? It would be chaos i tell you, chaos... | |||
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"Doesn’t heterosexual mean exactly that??? Didn’t know heterosexuals enjoyed bisexual experiences, regardless of how at ease they are with their sexuality. " No i dont think it does mean that. The way I look at it both myself and my guy are heterosexual. In real life we are not attracted to the same sex, neither would be ever get into a full time relationship with a member of the same sex. When we go to the club we leave our real life and respectability at the door and we enter the murky world of swinging. Here we can be whatever we want and we can try new things out. Cos ive licked pussy, doesnt make me a lesbian, not does it make me bisexual either, i would never be interested in a relationship with a woman outside the club. To us its shedding those labels that society put on us. | |||
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"Doesn’t heterosexual mean exactly that??? Didn’t know heterosexuals enjoyed bisexual experiences, regardless of how at ease they are with their sexuality. No i dont think it does mean that. The way I look at it both myself and my guy are heterosexual. In real life we are not attracted to the same sex, neither would be ever get into a full time relationship with a member of the same sex. When we go to the club we leave our real life and respectability at the door and we enter the murky world of swinging. Here we can be whatever we want and we can try new things out. Cos ive licked pussy, doesnt make me a lesbian, not does it make me bisexual either, i would never be interested in a relationship with a woman outside the club. To us its shedding those labels that society put on us. " The labels on here are for here though, not real life, was genuinely interested because as a heterosexual myself and someone who also swings, I don’t relate performing oral on the same sex as something heterosexuals do. Is it the stigma that’s attached to it? As noticed the female is happily labelled as bi curious but the male straight. Please feel free to tell me to shut up | |||
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"time to bring up HETRO-FLEXIBLE again haha i really want to spread this word. it means your attracted to the opposite sex physically and emotionally so you will only have relationships with the opposite sex however you feel you can play with your own sex if you like just for fun well thats the simple way off explaining it" Great word but doesn't that just mean bisexual?? Definiton • Bisexuality is sexual behavior or an orientation involving physical or romantic attraction to both males and females. | |||
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"Well, I'm 99% straight. But every now and then I like to receive anal from a guy. I don't find men attractive at all & I'm not effeminate. I'm essentially a straight man with an interesting little quirk. It's just a shame there are so many women who turn me down & hold it against me just because that 1% in me likes to receive anal from a guy every once or twice a year... " m8 your very new to the site(unless you have been on before) I am sure it will pick up for you soon or were you on about women in the none swinging world | |||
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"I know what you meen but people meen different things with bisexual, if somebody asked me was i bi I would say yes but explain what i stated when explaining hetro-flexible, the reason i put hetro-flexible on my profile is so people know i will only play with the same sex on rare occasion and I do not find them rommanticly attractive etc etc some people know the term but not many, so I put it on my profile so people can ask about it people tend to put bi-curious on thier profile when they mean this alot off the time, however to me bi-curious means you havent yet had a bi experiance and you want to try before you decide so having this extra word on people's profiles may help" Heteexible eh? I'd be the same. I think I will use that now myself | |||
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"m8 your very new to the site(unless you have been on before) I am sure it will pick up for you soon or were you on about women in the none swinging world" Well, I've already been with 1 person on the site (a female). But I come across so many women (whether they're from the swinging world or not) who get turned off when they see 'Bi Guy', so I have to list myself as straight just to be in with a chance. | |||
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"horses for courses everyones different! wot some people find a kink others find the norm ! im a trysexual kindof guy myself im a builder i have a good physique i play footy and shower with 22 guys do i find it horny? nope ! but in a 3sum situation would i play with a cock !? well why not life is all about learning and experments! does that make me bi? gay? who knows who cares im just out for fun! " That's a good attitude to have -similar to me. | |||
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"but thier are lots of women who like bi guys Waves hand in the air...ME..... " Wow! That's great!!! | |||
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"ok, we're going on about gay men, so why has the OP, put this under a Bisexual header " cos antiquated swinging "morals" now think that bi is ok for women and is even desirable, but not yet got their "giving heads" around bi men. SIMPLES | |||
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"Ourselves and many people we know have no problem with gay/bi guys. However,we all fail to understand why,if a guy is sexually attracted to other guys do they go for effeminate guys,transisters or T girls. Is it maybe because they have issues with their feelings and meeting this kind of guy eases their conscience? Similarly,Trace is genuinely bi and sexually attracted to other women. The only women she's attracted to though are feminine ones. We can't understand some gay(the dike variety)women who dress and behave like guys,wear no make up and have close cropped hair. They're usually partnered by a carbon copy and seem to be a race appart. Surely they may as well have a relationship with a guy. If they love women,why not go for one who exudes femininity? It's a funny old world! XXXX" CERTAINLY bldy is ... my head hurts | |||
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"It all seems very complicated where for us it is quite simple We both love to play with women and we also love to have a willy to play with iideally doing a double bj... Does that make us bi or just adaptable.. Not sure, bi suits us as long as we play... That's all well and good. But you HAVE to choose a label. It's the law, dontcha know?? And once you've chosen your label you HAVE to stick to it - no changing your mind or going back, no keeping the receipt just in case. What would happen if everyone just did what they felt like when they were in the mood for it, but didnt bother if they didnt feel like it? It would be chaos i tell you, chaos... " imagine ... tut | |||
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