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"ok to justify my question , i think a rubenesque lady is a size 14 , 16 or 18 but with a waist narrower than her hips large but still with shape , a sexy bbw (yes i have had great sex with a very big bbw and loved it ) is big all over , still yummy " I would think most womens waists are smaller than their hips. Im a size 18 and mine is,but not for much longer | |||
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"Personally I cant stand a world where skinny is an ok term but fat isnt." How do you mean? As in its ok to call a slim person skinny but not ok to call a fat person fat? | |||
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" How do you mean? As in its ok to call a slim person skinny but not ok to call a fat person fat?" Yes, that. Skinny is below average, fat is above averageif you like. If someone calls you skinny, noone cares. If someone calls you fat, the sky falls in and pigs fly. And because of that we have all these ridiculous euphemisms for being overweight. They bug me. Really. Hiding behind terms doesn't make things right. | |||
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"im fat, doesnt bother me " Good for you, everyone should be ok with themselves! | |||
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"im fat, doesnt bother me " i hate the term cuddly that's an instant deletion of a message for me im big and im not afraid of being called fat my waist is smaller than my hips and that's normal in m family | |||
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" How do you mean? As in its ok to call a slim person skinny but not ok to call a fat person fat? Yes, that. Skinny is below average, fat is above averageif you like. If someone calls you skinny, noone cares. If someone calls you fat, the sky falls in and pigs fly. And because of that we have all these ridiculous euphemisms for being overweight. They bug me. Really. Hiding behind terms doesn't make things right. " trouble is that 'fat' usually comes along with 'ugly cow' thin or 'skinny' women have lots of nice terms for them i have said on a previous post that i use the term bbw as an easy tag for people t see and decide if i am their thing or not i am very happy with my size and am having a figging ball on here lol | |||
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"If the twiglet rakesters have a problem with being called skinny they should make their own term up.... but remember to tell the companies which make skinny jeans to change the labels." Maybe they should make 'fat jeans' for use 'cuddlier' women | |||
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"If the twiglet rakesters have a problem with being called skinny they should make their own term up.... but remember to tell the companies which make skinny jeans to change the labels. Maybe they should make 'fat jeans' for use 'cuddlier' women " I'd sooner the focused on making jeans which actually fit the different shapes of fat women.... I don't really give a shit what they call them. | |||
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"thats what i am trying to clarify , some ladies as bbw are big bellied so from boobs down is about the same , i know my wife has no waist to speak of" So you're trying to pigeonhole people? Lots of luck... | |||
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"Don't like the term BBW myself, now rubenesque. There all sorts of body shapes from escapees from Belsen through average to Jabber the Hut with acronyms to be more pleasant or insulting depending on the mood. For thinner folks i find athletic a well over used acronym but its no big deal. Live and let live and try to get along without upsetting people is the name of the game surely. " I also find VWE a massively unjustified overused term on this site, just because it isnt tiny,it doesnt make it huge | |||
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"thats what i am trying to clarify , some ladies as bbw are big bellied so from boobs down is about the same , i know my wife has no waist to speak of So you're trying to pigeonhole people? Lots of luck..." i think i'm stuck in my pigeonhole - someone fetch the vaseline | |||
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"thats what i am trying to clarify , some ladies as bbw are big bellied so from boobs down is about the same , i know my wife has no waist to speak of So you're trying to pigeonhole people? Lots of luck... i think i'm stuck in my pigeonhole - someone fetch the vaseline " well, if you are stuck long enough...you would have a ruebenesque waist so would not be classed as a dreaded bbw...lol | |||
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"Personally I cant stand a world where skinny is an ok term but fat isnt." It is not what the OP is talking about but agree, call me skinny I will call you fat or obese, call me slim I will call you ample or larger. | |||
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"hi , i love ladies with curves as rubens painted them they were titled rubenesque but not bbw which implys big all over , now i love both but is bbw now being used in place or for different style of women ," Happy to class myself as fat cuddly bbw curvy or any other term thats used to describe over weight women thing is ist how u carry it off im a CONFIDANT VIBRANT BBW and im happy with who i am | |||
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"maybe the term should be 'real women'? real women are shapely, cuddly, more fun. i don't go for anorexic girls. however, did you see the cosmetic surgey programme on tv last night? very sad that so many women are not happy with their shape, and will spend thousands having bits cut off etc. " And there is the example, Anorexic is a medical condition, would you feel happy reading if someone said they don't play with spastics. To call anyone anorexic is as offensive as calling them fat slobs, grossers or whales. | |||
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"thats what i am trying to clarify , some ladies as bbw are big bellied so from boobs down is about the same , i know my wife has no waist to speak of" I'm a size 30 but have an hourglass figure. I have big boobs, a big belly, a big bum and big thighs but a relatively small waist. Which camp do I fit in?? Why do I need to fit into either? We use the term BBW on our profile to highlight the fact that, yes, I am above average when it comes to size and weight, it's a tag that is useful for easy identification. If someone doesn't like lumps, bumps and wobbly bits on their playmates they know to avoid us because I have plenty of all the above. But call me what you will, Rubenesque, BBW, SSBBW or just plain old fat, it doesn't change me as a person so what does it matter? If you like what you see then why should a tag make any difference? | |||
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"thats what i am trying to clarify , some ladies as bbw are big bellied so from boobs down is about the same , i know my wife has no waist to speak of I'm a size 30 but have an hourglass figure. I have big boobs, a big belly, a big bum and big thighs but a relatively small waist. Which camp do I fit in?? Why do I need to fit into either? We use the term BBW on our profile to highlight the fact that, yes, I am above average when it comes to size and weight, it's a tag that is useful for easy identification. If someone doesn't like lumps, bumps and wobbly bits on their playmates they know to avoid us because I have plenty of all the above. But call me what you will, Rubenesque, BBW, SSBBW or just plain old fat, it doesn't change me as a person so what does it matter? If you like what you see then why should a tag make any difference?" very well said would be a pretty sad world if we were all clones eh | |||
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" very well said would be a pretty sad world if we were all clones eh " It would indeed! And boring to boot | |||
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"maybe the term should be 'real women'? real women are shapely, cuddly, more fun. i don't go for anorexic girls. however, did you see the cosmetic surgey programme on tv last night? very sad that so many women are not happy with their shape, and will spend thousands having bits cut off etc. " Not sure id call it sad, just means some of us are really not comfortable with our shape at all and if i won the lottery, id be straight under the surgeons knife | |||
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"The problem is that this is the real world we live in and in the real world we all use tags, labels if not in speech in thought. Sometimes it's just for simplicity, much easier to call a man who likes to dress up as a woman a transvestite than saying "oh yes wotsit, he sometime dresses up as a woman" what is wrong with saying "wotsit is a transvestite" Gay, straight, bisexual, they are all tags and lables, you can't complete your site profile without tagging yourself, everyone here is tagged as a couple, a single, straight, bi-curious, bi-sexual, TS/TV etc. Then there are the personal descriptions, you have to lable yourself as slim, athletic, curvy, ample or large. Did you go to the corner shop today or use one of the Nationals to buy your shopping ? when looking for sugar in the nationals did you look for the aisle that said "frozen foods" or "vegetarian" or "fresh produce" Labels are just a way of making speech and life simple and not there to be-little anyone. " What a well thought through and valid point, that I cannot disagree with in the slightest. I guess I just don't want to knowingly label myself as anything in particular whilst trying to 'sell' myself. | |||
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"The problem is that this is the real world we live in and in the real world we all use tags, labels if not in speech in thought. Sometimes it's just for simplicity, much easier to call a man who likes to dress up as a woman a transvestite than saying "oh yes wotsit, he sometime dresses up as a woman" what is wrong with saying "wotsit is a transvestite" Gay, straight, bisexual, they are all tags and lables, you can't complete your site profile without tagging yourself, everyone here is tagged as a couple, a single, straight, bi-curious, bi-sexual, TS/TV etc. Then there are the personal descriptions, you have to lable yourself as slim, athletic, curvy, ample or large. Did you go to the corner shop today or use one of the Nationals to buy your shopping ? when looking for sugar in the nationals did you look for the aisle that said "frozen foods" or "vegetarian" or "fresh produce" Labels are just a way of making speech and life simple and not there to be-little anyone. What a well thought through and valid point, that I cannot disagree with in the slightest. I guess I just don't want to knowingly label myself as anything in particular whilst trying to 'sell' myself. " Unfortunately the labels are what attracts someone to a profile afterall if you didnt say whether you were slim or BBW, how would someone know whether to send you a message or not | |||
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"The problem is that this is the real world we live in and in the real world we all use tags, labels if not in speech in thought. Sometimes it's just for simplicity, much easier to call a man who likes to dress up as a woman a transvestite than saying "oh yes wotsit, he sometime dresses up as a woman" what is wrong with saying "wotsit is a transvestite" Gay, straight, bisexual, they are all tags and lables, you can't complete your site profile without tagging yourself, everyone here is tagged as a couple, a single, straight, bi-curious, bi-sexual, TS/TV etc. Then there are the personal descriptions, you have to lable yourself as slim, athletic, curvy, ample or large. Did you go to the corner shop today or use one of the Nationals to buy your shopping ? when looking for sugar in the nationals did you look for the aisle that said "frozen foods" or "vegetarian" or "fresh produce" Labels are just a way of making speech and life simple and not there to be-little anyone. What a well thought through and valid point, that I cannot disagree with in the slightest. I guess I just don't want to knowingly label myself as anything in particular whilst trying to 'sell' myself. Unfortunately the labels are what attracts someone to a profile afterall if you didnt say whether you were slim or BBW, how would someone know whether to send you a message or not" I clearly describe my size (dress), that I have lumps, bumps & marks on my body & that I am not a slim, cellulite free, model kind. I'm just a normal, everyday type of woman. Even as I write this now I'm realising I'm actually labelling myself as 'normal'! I do believe I need to take a step back and either think a little more about this or maybe not! | |||
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"I am fat as well...but I accept it and do consider myself to be a big beautiful woman so have no problems with using the term bbw.I too use the term for it to be easier when messaging people or when people look at my profile to say "oh, not attracted to larger women" or " maybe I will message her"...I don't see that I am hiding behind anything" Thst's pretty much my view too. People claim not to like labels, but sometimes you need them - how do you find out what you want. Little point contacting someone who later you find is a size 24 when you don't find women over a size 12 attractive! BBW is not a term I'd heard before going onto internet sites: or bi-curious for that matter! | |||
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"The problem is that this is the real world we live in and in the real world we all use tags, labels if not in speech in thought. Sometimes it's just for simplicity, much easier to call a man who likes to dress up as a woman a transvestite than saying "oh yes wotsit, he sometime dresses up as a woman" what is wrong with saying "wotsit is a transvestite" Gay, straight, bisexual, they are all tags and lables, you can't complete your site profile without tagging yourself, everyone here is tagged as a couple, a single, straight, bi-curious, bi-sexual, TS/TV etc. Then there are the personal descriptions, you have to lable yourself as slim, athletic, curvy, ample or large. Did you go to the corner shop today or use one of the Nationals to buy your shopping ? when looking for sugar in the nationals did you look for the aisle that said "frozen foods" or "vegetarian" or "fresh produce" Labels are just a way of making speech and life simple and not there to be-little anyone. " *Nods in total agreement* Well put! | |||
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"as i see it i,m just fat and if ppl out there dont like me its there loss do they honestly think fat women cant fuck like skinny women " I don't think that was the question! | |||
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"hi , i love ladies with curves as rubens painted them they were titled rubenesque but not bbw which implys big all over , now i love both but is bbw now being used in place or for different style of women ," OOOhhh....this topic always gets heated..I love the way the O.P has lit the blue touch paper and retired to a safe distance to watch the fireworks.. | |||
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" OOOhhh....this topic always gets heated..I love the way the O.P has lit the blue touch paper and retired to a safe distance to watch the fireworks.. " they always do.... its like a "drive by post"..... see.... there are what I call "pandora's box" topics that I won't go near for love nor money..... some people just can't help themselves...... | |||
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"as i see it i,m just fat and if ppl out there dont like me its there loss do they honestly think fat women cant fuck like skinny women I don't think that was the question! " No, the question wasn't are you comfortable in your skin or what label do you use, but any mention of BBW on here and thats the answers we end up with, whatever the question. | |||
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" OOOhhh....this topic always gets heated..I love the way the O.P has lit the blue touch paper and retired to a safe distance to watch the fireworks.. they always do.... its like a "drive by post"..... see.... there are what I call "pandora's box" topics that I won't go near for love nor money..... some people just can't help themselves......" LMAO..yep..we all have our favourite "Pandora"...pmsl..btw..when am I going to get my white hands round your BBC...hehe... | |||
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"as i see it i,m just fat and if ppl out there dont like me its there loss do they honestly think fat women cant fuck like skinny women " Nobody has said larger women are any less sexually appealing or able to please as slimmer women in fact more have said something to the contrary, what your actually saying is that you are abusive and non-caring about other peoples feelings, you have no qualms at being derogatory to people who are not the same as you hence calling them skinny rather than slim or petit or slim. Because you don't mind the use of the word fat or skinny everyone else has to accept it's use. That is your perogative, it's a free world you can abuse people in this Country, you can be hurtfull with remarks, words and comments and you can say such things in an open forum it's your opinion and your entitled to it. Strange though how we accept all personal insults as legal but when the abuse involves a racist word there is an explosion .... fat twat - legal, skinny twat - legal ... change it to Irish twat, black bastard, paki and your likely to end up in court. In truth none of the above insults are legal but I you don't get arrested for using personal insults only racist ones. Anyone know why that is ? | |||
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"as i see it i,m just fat and if ppl out there dont like me its there loss do they honestly think fat women cant fuck like skinny women Nobody has said larger women are any less sexually appealing or able to please as slimmer women in fact more have said something to the contrary, what your actually saying is that you are abusive and non-caring about other peoples feelings, you have no qualms at being derogatory to people who are not the same as you hence calling them skinny rather than slim or petit or slim. Because you don't mind the use of the word fat or skinny everyone else has to accept it's use. That is your perogative, it's a free world you can abuse people in this Country, you can be hurtfull with remarks, words and comments and you can say such things in an open forum it's your opinion and your entitled to it. Strange though how we accept all personal insults as legal but when the abuse involves a racist word there is an explosion .... fat twat - legal, skinny twat - legal ... change it to Irish twat, black bastard, paki and your likely to end up in court. In truth none of the above insults are legal but I you don't get arrested for using personal insults only racist ones. Anyone know why that is ?" Maybe because the majority of fat people including myself are fat through theyre own fault i.e i love food and cider and am not fond of the gym and most skinny people (your word not mine) are thin through choice (again,most not all) where as black people dont choose to be black etc. | |||
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"racism does seem to be one sided, mind irish twat isn't racist surely, offensive maybe. never heard of anybody being arrested for calling somebody a white honky either. one day we will have true equality but that day is a long way off yet." My personal thoughts exactly, I am totally against racism of any sort be it against people of a different colour to myself, different cultural beliefs, religious beliefs or people the same as me (Irish, Welsh, Americans, Scottish), but I am also against singling out people because of thier size, height, hairstyle, trend (goths etc). | |||
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"does anyone know where the saying bbw cmes from or where it started ?" Thats an easy one for wikipedia Rubens' "Venus at the Mirror""Big Beautiful Woman" (commonly abbreviated as BBW) is a neologism most frequently used in the context of affirmation of or sexual attraction to women who are above average weight. The terms "Big Beautiful Women" and "BBW" were coined by Carole Shaw in 1979, when she launched BBW Magazine, a fashion and lifestyle magazine for plus-size women.[1] | |||
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"as i see it i,m just fat and if ppl out there dont like me its there loss do they honestly think fat women cant fuck like skinny women Nobody has said larger women are any less sexually appealing or able to please as slimmer women in fact more have said something to the contrary, what your actually saying is that you are abusive and non-caring about other peoples feelings, you have no qualms at being derogatory to people who are not the same as you hence calling them skinny rather than slim or petit or slim. Because you don't mind the use of the word fat or skinny everyone else has to accept it's use. That is your perogative, it's a free world you can abuse people in this Country, you can be hurtfull with remarks, words and comments and you can say such things in an open forum it's your opinion and your entitled to it. Strange though how we accept all personal insults as legal but when the abuse involves a racist word there is an explosion .... fat twat - legal, skinny twat - legal ... change it to Irish twat, black bastard, paki and your likely to end up in court. In truth none of the above insults are legal but I you don't get arrested for using personal insults only racist ones. Anyone know why that is ?" Lets also look at another point, who decides what skinny is? Am I a size 12-14 deemed skinny and does that mean im crap in bed? I dont think so. Whilst BBW's are not my thing, yes they absolutely can look sexy and hot - theres a comedienne i could definitely go for if i thought she would have me | |||
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"as i see it i,m just fat and if ppl out there dont like me its there loss do they honestly think fat women cant fuck like skinny women" I can only speak from my own personl experiences but i dont think you can have sex as well when your big, i used to be a size 24 but lost over 7 stone and when to a size 10/12 ish and i can honestly say that sex was the biggest supprise for me in looseing weight, i had so much more stamina, i could bend better, get into possitions better and more comfy, having someone be able to throw me round the bed without causing themselves an injury was great lol i remember meetiing some guy and having sex stood up and him being able to reach cause my belly wasnt in the way lol and having guys pick me up during sex etc it was just so much better, i did fail in my mission to loose weight and but a bit back on and have gone back upto a size 14 and ive noticed a different where as sex just dont seem as comfy when you carry weight, my bellies started getting in the way again lol so ive gone back to weight watchers to shift the weight ive put back on lol but i can honestly say you can shag better when your thin that when your fat but having been at both ends of the scale i can say that because ive experiences both | |||
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"as i see it i,m just fat and if ppl out there dont like me its there loss do they honestly think fat women cant fuck like skinny women I can only speak from my own personl experiences but i dont think you can have sex as well when your big, i used to be a size 24 but lost over 7 stone and when to a size 10/12 ish and i can honestly say that sex was the biggest supprise for me in looseing weight, i had so much more stamina, i could bend better, get into possitions better and more comfy, having someone be able to throw me round the bed without causing themselves an injury was great lol i remember meetiing some guy and having sex stood up and him being able to reach cause my belly wasnt in the way lol and having guys pick me up during sex etc it was just so much better, i did fail in my mission to loose weight and but a bit back on and have gone back upto a size 14 and ive noticed a different where as sex just dont seem as comfy when you carry weight, my bellies started getting in the way again lol so ive gone back to weight watchers to shift the weight ive put back on lol but i can honestly say you can shag better when your thin that when your fat but having been at both ends of the scale i can say that because ive experiences both" Just a couple of things, firstly a big well done for losing weight Secondly i used to do a keep fit class and the tutor was at least a size 18 but had more stamina then me and i was only a 16 then Thirdly i know what you are saying about the tummy, i despise the look intensely that i get when i am on all fours for a 69 or behind only to look and see the ugly mummy tummy hanging down, just gross, dont understand why some people like a belly on women, its definitely not sexy at all | |||
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"Thirdly i know what you are saying about the tummy, i despise the look intensely that i get when i am on all fours for a 69 or behind only to look and see the ugly mummy tummy hanging down, just gross, dont understand why some people like a belly on women, its definitely not sexy at all " From a male perspective, by that point we're not seeing any belly...! ..hope that helps! | |||
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