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"Seems a lot of people now are charging "contributions " if you wanna meet them in a hotel or gangbang £30 each guy when you invite 30 guys and you say it's only to cover your expenses !!! Is it prostitution disguised as swinging ? " you always have the radical option of "not going"... after all no one is pointing a gun to your head making you do anything you dont want to.... you don't want to jump thru those hoops.... dont!!!! | |||
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"That is my point the single guys were solely invited to make money ,surely the motive for swinging is pleasure but if you do it just to make money it should be called something else " yes of course. | |||
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"Seems a lot of people now are charging "contributions " if you wanna meet them in a hotel or gangbang £30 each guy when you invite 30 guys and you say it's only to cover your expenses !!! Is it prostitution disguised as swinging ? " Or it could be that only 3 will turn up and the room cost £90 | |||
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"Seems a lot of people now are charging "contributions " if you wanna meet them in a hotel or gangbang £30 each guy when you invite 30 guys and you say it's only to cover your expenses !!! Is it prostitution disguised as swinging ? " Yes | |||
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"Average price for a single in clubs is between £40 - £50" Is it? Do you go to clubs then? | |||
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"Unfortunately swinging is no different to any other walk of life where scamming is concerned. People will always find opportunities to make money. When reading profiles you will notice references to being spoilt. Xxxx wsnts a sugar daddy to buy me nice things. Its a form of escorting and prostitution. Id like to see this as prohibited in the site rules and anyone using these terms banned. I notice one femsle fabber write defending this recently stating if men wsnt her to smell and dress nice they should pay. What about the zguys who dress smart and also dress nice its same for both parties. Fabs is about people with simlar interests meeting for free not people trying to make money " Pretty sure it is against site rules and could nt agree more with the rest of your post | |||
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"Average price for a single in clubs is between £40 - £50 Is it? Do you go to clubs then? " I was going to say never been as expensive as that in any club I have been to... (as normal admission... not the one off admission and membership) | |||
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"Unfortunately swinging is no different to any other walk of life where scamming is concerned. People will always find opportunities to make money. When reading profiles you will notice references to being spoilt. Xxxx wsnts a sugar daddy to buy me nice things. Its a form of escorting and prostitution. Id like to see this as prohibited in the site rules and anyone using these terms banned. I notice one femsle fabber write defending this recently stating if men wsnt her to smell and dress nice they should pay. What about the zguys who dress smart and also dress nice its same for both parties. Fabs is about people with simlar interests meeting for free not people trying to make money Pretty sure it is against site rules and could nt agree more with the rest of your post " but if people have that little respect for themselves... and think with the cocks instead of their heads... and decide to pay the money... more fool them..... thats not just on the person advertising... thats also on the people that are prepared to pay! like I said... no one is holding a gun to their heads making them do anything.. | |||
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"Do guys not pay more at clubs ? " Does that make it any different? A guy can go to a club and spend all night there socialising with lots of people,using the facilities,having the opportunity to play with a few people A slot for a gangbang in a hotel room along with many other men can't be compared to a night at a club Asking for stupid amounts of money to be fucked and disguising it as covering 'expenses' for a £60 travelodge or premier Inn is prostitution | |||
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"Seems a lot of people now are charging "contributions " if you wanna meet them in a hotel or gangbang £30 each guy when you invite 30 guys and you say it's only to cover your expenses !!! Is it prostitution disguised as swinging ? " . As no one is compelled to attend I don't see the issue. If you don't want to pay thirty pounds just ignore the advert . Hotel rooms can be expensive and couples inviting guys are giving them pleasure . In any event no one knows how many will turn up. If no one they are out of pocket. You can of course avoid all these charges by providing accommodation for them at your place | |||
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"I ve done a recent cross reference between this site and a well known escort site and found an awful lot of people using both .Also found a couple on here using pics of their male playing with a much younger escort girl ,not being judgemental but it was an eye opener " . If people are using both sites does it matter? You can simply ignore their request . Out of interest what technique did you use to do your cross referencing . I am assuming you could not download the profiles from both sites and do a data match, and as such any matching process would have to be manual. | |||
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"Do guys not pay more at clubs ? " yes possibly, but they also get many more facilities and meet more people | |||
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"I am one of those girls that have done swinging and escorting but I don't involve the two in eachother it's completely different, escorting is paid and is their time, whatever they want or enjoy to do basically, where as swinging is for me, I can choose who & when and what I want to enjoy, if I meet people off fab I wouldn't dream of charging them I have done gangbangs on fab that have all been free so please don't assume that a girl who does escorting can't swing the same as everyone else, I do agree there is people on here trying to make money but don't judge everyone as we aren't all the same. X" see that as totally acceptable | |||
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"I am one of those girls that have done swinging and escorting but I don't involve the two in eachother it's completely different, escorting is paid and is their time, whatever they want or enjoy to do basically, where as swinging is for me, I can choose who & when and what I want to enjoy, if I meet people off fab I wouldn't dream of charging them I have done gangbangs on fab that have all been free so please don't assume that a girl who does escorting can't swing the same as everyone else, I do agree there is people on here trying to make money but don't judge everyone as we aren't all the same. X" . I have done male escorting. On a simplistic basis you are providing a service and will usually need to be available at an hours notice and through the night. In addition you will need to be able to pass the attitude test and perform to the couples requirements. The fees earned will only cover your expenses . Advertising is very expensive . Quite a few clients have become regulars who I see free of charge . If advertising on fab you are doing so because you enjoy meets and clearly cannot charge. Escorts can also enjoy their work. Thre couples who I see regularly made a one off investment . Paid for their first meet and all other meets free. Some of the comments that they have about what other escorts attempted to charge them are interesting. | |||
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"Average price for a single in clubs is between £40 - £50 Is it? Do you go to clubs then? " Single guys do pay either the same as a couples or slightly more in clubs but we have noticed clubs charging up to £75 for single guys and they have "working girls" on hand to accommodate the single guys. This in my opinion is one step away from a brothel, and not a swingers club. As many have said the idea of swinging is fun and choices, not being party to prostitution, however you pretty it up. | |||
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"I guess it gives guys who can't get a meet a chance to get laid " It's not guaranteed sex. Women can still say no | |||
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"Seems a lot of people now are charging "contributions " if you wanna meet them in a hotel or gangbang £30 each guy when you invite 30 guys and you say it's only to cover your expenses !!! Is it prostitution disguised as swinging ? " Agreed Anything over and above the cost of hotel and snacks should be given straight back to those attending. It's not like setting a meet up is that hard, or uses excessive resources. If you keep any profits, you are making sex a business. The business of sex = prostitution. | |||
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"Average price for a single in clubs is between £40 - £50 Is it? Do you go to clubs then? Single guys do pay either the same as a couples or slightly more in clubs but we have noticed clubs charging up to £75 for single guys and they have "working girls" on hand to accommodate the single guys. This in my opinion is one step away from a brothel, and not a swingers club. As many have said the idea of swinging is fun and choices, not being party to prostitution, however you pretty it up." We have been to quite a few clubs and never seen a working girl, would be interested to know where you have been... | |||
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"OP are there any charges for people attending your parties?" Haha Good question | |||
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"I am one of those girls that have done swinging and escorting but I don't involve the two in eachother it's completely different, escorting is paid and is their time, whatever they want or enjoy to do basically, where as swinging is for me, I can choose who & when and what I want to enjoy, if I meet people off fab I wouldn't dream of charging them I have done gangbangs on fab that have all been free so please don't assume that a girl who does escorting can't swing the same as everyone else, I do agree there is people on here trying to make money but don't judge everyone as we aren't all the same. X" | |||
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"the way I cold heartedly bluntly look at this is this... would you pay 30 quid to have sex with someone with for example, a card in a telephone box... or an advert in the newspaper.... nope??? then why would you pay the same 30 quid to then be part of this sort of meet... and then complain that it is some sort of business...... as others have said... you have choices... no one said "do it or die!"... no one force people into making that decision... so is the principle you are made at... because if it is... vote with your feet and walk!!" | |||
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"Average price for a single in clubs is between £40 - £50" eureka's is £20 friday,£30 saturday for a single male/ couple its less than most organised partys charge | |||
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"Eureka is not really a swingers club. It's a naturist or at best exhibitionists club. " Oh dear I have been doing it all wrong when ive been to parties there if thats the case | |||
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"Eureka is not really a swingers club. It's a naturist or at best exhibitionists club. Oh dear I have been doing it all wrong when ive been to parties there if thats the case" oops same here | |||
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"Oh and 1 other point it was once pointed out to me about some cpls on here also being on AW . But like that lady says one is business and one is pleasure" We used to use AW back in the day, we were still swingers, back in those days it was some business some pleasure, these days it's always pleasure x | |||
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"I am one of those girls that have done swinging and escorting but I don't involve the two in eachother it's completely different, escorting is paid and is their time, whatever they want or enjoy to do basically, where as swinging is for me, I can choose who & when and what I want to enjoy, if I meet people off fab I wouldn't dream of charging them I have done gangbangs on fab that have all been free so please don't assume that a girl who does escorting can't swing the same as everyone else, I do agree there is people on here trying to make money but don't judge everyone as we aren't all the same. X. I have done male escorting. On a simplistic basis you are providing a service and will usually need to be available at an hours notice and through the night. In addition you will need to be able to pass the attitude test and perform to the couples requirements. The fees earned will only cover your expenses . Advertising is very expensive . Quite a few clients have become regulars who I see free of charge . If advertising on fab you are doing so because you enjoy meets and clearly cannot charge. Escorts can also enjoy their work. Thre couples who I see regularly made a one off investment . Paid for their first meet and all other meets free. Some of the comments that they have about what other escorts attempted to charge them are interesting. " I'm not wishing to sound judgmental Patrick (far from it), but your profile looks to me like you're blatantly touting for business. I'm surprised you've gotten away with it! I'm sure you're very good at what you do, but considering the there are literally thousands of horny single blokes on here, I'm astonished that you get any response at all! Anyway, good luck to ya! | |||
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"It can not compare with abfab radlett pleasures in kent. Main action is dancing naked. Swinging is secondary but I guess people can have different impressions about the same place " I must remember my tutu so I can shake my naked tush when I go there again abfabs/kestrals are simalar to eureka radlett and pleasures are just party venues and like clubs have outlays to pay. yes we are moving of the subject as its private partys and private gangbangs that men are paying 30ish when ten guys could pay a fiver and there outlay would be paid.it is all wrong and thats why I prefer to go to organised partys/clubs not private ones | |||
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"I am one of those girls that have done swinging and escorting but I don't involve the two in eachother it's completely different, escorting is paid and is their time, whatever they want or enjoy to do basically, where as swinging is for me, I can choose who & when and what I want to enjoy, if I meet people off fab I wouldn't dream of charging them I have done gangbangs on fab that have all been free so please don't assume that a girl who does escorting can't swing the same as everyone else, I do agree there is people on here trying to make money but don't judge everyone as we aren't all the same. X" Well said... | |||
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"I am one of those girls that have done swinging and escorting but I don't involve the two in eachother it's completely different, escorting is paid and is their time, whatever they want or enjoy to do basically, where as swinging is for me, I can choose who & when and what I want to enjoy, if I meet people off fab I wouldn't dream of charging them I have done gangbangs on fab that have all been free so please don't assume that a girl who does escorting can't swing the same as everyone else, I do agree there is people on here trying to make money but don't judge everyone as we aren't all the same. X Well said..." | |||
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"Eureka is not really a swingers club. It's a naturist or at best exhibitionists club. Oh dear I have been doing it all wrong when ive been to parties there if thats the case oops same here " and again here! | |||
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"Seems a lot of people now are charging "contributions " if you wanna meet them in a hotel or gangbang £30 each guy when you invite 30 guys and you say it's only to cover your expenses !!! Is it prostitution disguised as swinging ? . As no one is compelled to attend I don't see the issue. If you don't want to pay thirty pounds just ignore the advert . Hotel rooms can be expensive and couples inviting guys are giving them pleasure . In any event no one knows how many will turn up. If no one they are out of pocket. You can of course avoid all these charges by providing accommodation for them at your place " If I wanted to get a hotel room to get fucked in, I'd pay for it... | |||
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"Thanks a lot to all who participated in this topic with their _iews and opinions. I guess a few people are managing to spoil the whole swinging scene. A few years back you never heard of people holding parties in their own homes and charging anyone who wants to attend. In my _iew if you want to host it's gonna be at your expense unless you hire a venue then everyone contributes " Fully agree with this. I have held several parties...next one Oct 18th. I have NEVER charged yet I provide condoms, soft drinks plus a few beers and couple of bottles of wine and I put on a decent buffet! I even have people staying over and I provide breakfast. Some people offer a contribution off their own bat but I never set a fee! | |||
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"There's a nice invite addie for a GB in Hendon from a couple for a second gb at the home address yes please am I acceptable the response it's £60 for a single male max 10 males - £600 Er Er am I just naive or what u decide or comment xx" If you paid the money to go then id say you were a bit stupid rather than naive | |||
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"There's a nice invite addie for a GB in Hendon from a couple for a second gb at the home address yes please am I acceptable the response it's £60 for a single male max 10 males - £600 Er Er am I just naive or what u decide or comment xx" again.... who held a gun to your head making you go........ so again is the principle you object to... or the price..... | |||
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"We once tried to arrange a gangbang on here, we said it would be £10 per guy, 21 guys put their names down, then someone reported us to admin saying we were trying to make money as we would get £210 for a £60 room. What the Knob head did not realise that on the day 3 turned up!! But to be fair to them they agreed to split the costs between them and we all had a great time. " So what would you have done if 21 guys had turned up? Charge them £2.85 each? | |||
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"We once tried to arrange a gangbang on here, we said it would be £10 per guy, 21 guys put their names down, then someone reported us to admin saying we were trying to make money as we would get £210 for a £60 room. What the Knob head did not realise that on the day 3 turned up!! But to be fair to them they agreed to split the costs between them and we all had a great time. " why set an arbitrary figure, why not just say that room costs to be shared.. 'knob head' was only reacting to what they saw, based on your posting.. we have had group meets and split it between us, in fact one guy had travelled a fair way so with his fuel costs we didn't count him in when we did.. | |||
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"If it is my fantasy or what I want then I should be the one to cover the costs surely, if I am the one asking for the guys to turn up then should it not be free?, it would be my choice to incure those costs, I think it is wrong to charge someone if it is what you want my opinion." | |||
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"The difference between these kinds of events is the 'guarantee' of sex. If the guys paying are guaranteed sex then we feel it's prostitution. Simple...." which is why I asked a lot of the guys is it the principle they are objecting to... or is it the cost? | |||
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"The difference between these kinds of events is the 'guarantee' of sex. If the guys paying are guaranteed sex then we feel it's prostitution. Simple...." Admin think the same....so for anyone who you thinking is charging for guaranteed sex, please report and let Admin check it out. | |||
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"We once tried to arrange a gangbang on here, we said it would be £10 per guy, 21 guys put their names down, then someone reported us to admin saying we were trying to make money as we would get £210 for a £60 room. What the Knob head did not realise that on the day 3 turned up!! But to be fair to them they agreed to split the costs between them and we all had a great time. " . I often wonder what motivates people to report items such as this to admin. All you were doing was covering you costs .Glad the three who attended covered your losses. | |||
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"There's a nice invite addie for a GB in Hendon from a couple for a second gb at the home address yes please am I acceptable the response it's £60 for a single male max 10 males - £600 Er Er am I just naive or what u decide or comment xx" .Your calculations do depend on how many turn up. In any event no one is compelled to attend any of these events. | |||
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"The difference between these kinds of events is the 'guarantee' of sex. If the guys paying are guaranteed sex then we feel it's prostitution. Simple.... Admin think the same....so for anyone who you thinking is charging for guaranteed sex, please report and let Admin check it out. " Do we report for expensive house parties too... | |||
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"We once tried to arrange a gangbang on here, we said it would be £10 per guy, 21 guys put their names down, then someone reported us to admin saying we were trying to make money as we would get £210 for a £60 room. What the Knob head did not realise that on the day 3 turned up!! But to be fair to them they agreed to split the costs between them and we all had a great time. . I often wonder what motivates people to report items such as this to admin. All you were doing was covering you costs .Glad the three who attended covered your losses. " In the case of this thread the OP obviously wanted to knobble any other parties & advertise his own. If he felt threatened or upset by costs he should contact admin not try for cheap advertising...pot kettle black springs to mind & I'm sure admin would agree. | |||
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"The difference between these kinds of events is the 'guarantee' of sex. If the guys paying are guaranteed sex then we feel it's prostitution. Simple.... Admin think the same....so for anyone who you thinking is charging for guaranteed sex, please report and let Admin check it out. Do we report for expensive house parties too..." Anything you think is excessive I would yes. | |||
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