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"I respect their choice to knock on my door, I respect my choice to open it, say no thanks and close it. I give them no more thought than that " This... | |||
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"Is it a hostess trolley with cake selection? " I'd convert for free cakes | |||
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"Is it a hostess trolley with cake selection? " Haha hostess trolley always makes me think of her lets do it song........beat me on the bottom with a woman's weekly..... Classic Victoria Woods | |||
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"We have a young, fit girl at work who, only works two days a week, so she can go door knocking and bothering people for three days a week What a waste She needs a club visit with me, I'd be knocking her back doors, I tell ya" who is the girl how old is she what job does she do and where and how much did you win i won £25 2 weeks ago not much lol but i dont win each week lol what did she look like | |||
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"When I was heavily pregnant some JW ladies knocked and asked "do you ever wonder how life got started?" , I looked at my stomach, smiled and replied "I think I know" I got blank states in response " lol thats not nice is it well its upto you end of the day you dont think theres a god then at all how did all thinks get on earth who made a car bus plants lol you think about more then come back to us on it | |||
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"My cousin is a Jehovah's Witness. I bumped into him at Radletts a few years ago. He was entangled with a blonde who was wearing nothing but leopard print heels over the dining room table when our eyes met. We've since crossed paths at numerous family funerals and we've yet to utter a word to each other since then. " hi is your cousin still a jehovah witness then what happend about the girl in lepard again who was that | |||
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"Is it a hostess trolley with cake selection? " be nice thats not nice is it grow up | |||
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"Is it a hostess trolley with cake selection? be nice thats not nice is it grow up " It was a really flippant comment, wasn't it? I've never heard about JW's and their trolleys and assumed they had taken to conversing with people in supermarket aisles. | |||
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"When I was heavily pregnant some JW ladies knocked and asked "do you ever wonder how life got started?" , I looked at my stomach, smiled and replied "I think I know" I got blank states in response lol thats not nice is it well its upto you end of the day you dont think theres a god then at all how did all thinks get on earth who made a car bus plants lol you think about more then come back to us on it " Sorry I don't understand. | |||
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"But what is the trolley thing" I'd like to know as well | |||
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"When I was heavily pregnant some JW ladies knocked and asked "do you ever wonder how life got started?" , I looked at my stomach, smiled and replied "I think I know" I got blank states in response lol thats not nice is it well its upto you end of the day you dont think theres a god then at all how did all thinks get on earth who made a car bus plants lol you think about more then come back to us on it " I can't get my head around the fact that for 1000's of years, there were lots of gods, Egyptian Ra and Set and Isis and all, Greek Zeus and Aphrodite, loads of Roman gods like Mars, etc. Then when Christianity got going, they decided that there was only one god. How could all those people have been so wrong for so long? I don't understand why a minority religion thinks it's right when for the majority of history, they weren't about. | |||
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"When I was heavily pregnant some JW ladies knocked and asked "do you ever wonder how life got started?" , I looked at my stomach, smiled and replied "I think I know" I got blank states in response lol thats not nice is it well its upto you end of the day you dont think theres a god then at all how did all thinks get on earth who made a car bus plants lol you think about more then come back to us on it I can't get my head around the fact that for 1000's of years, there were lots of gods, Egyptian Ra and Set and Isis and all, Greek Zeus and Aphrodite, loads of Roman gods like Mars, etc. Then when Christianity got going, they decided that there was only one god. How could all those people have been so wrong for so long? I don't understand why a minority religion thinks it's right when for the majority of history, they weren't about. " It sure is a puzzle. It seems that jokes aren't allowed either | |||
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"Is it a hostess trolley with cake selection? be nice thats not nice is it grow up " Can't see what's unpleasant about my comment, but each to their own. | |||
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"We have a young, fit girl at work who, only works two days a week, so she can go door knocking and bothering people for three days a week What a waste She needs a club visit with me, I'd be knocking her back doors, I tell ya who is the girl how old is she what job does she do and where and how much did you win i won £25 2 weeks ago not much lol but i dont win each week lol what did she look like " ?????! | |||
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"When I was heavily pregnant some JW ladies knocked and asked "do you ever wonder how life got started?" , I looked at my stomach, smiled and replied "I think I know" I got blank states in response lol thats not nice is it well its upto you end of the day you dont think theres a god then at all how did all thinks get on earth who made a car bus plants lol you think about more then come back to us on it I can't get my head around the fact that for 1000's of years, there were lots of gods, Egyptian Ra and Set and Isis and all, Greek Zeus and Aphrodite, loads of Roman gods like Mars, etc. Then when Christianity got going, they decided that there was only one god. How could all those people have been so wrong for so long? I don't understand why a minority religion thinks it's right when for the majority of history, they weren't about. " They are all wrong, there is, and has never been, a god. | |||
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"When I was heavily pregnant some JW ladies knocked and asked "do you ever wonder how life got started?" , I looked at my stomach, smiled and replied "I think I know" I got blank states in response lol thats not nice is it well its upto you end of the day you dont think theres a god then at all how did all thinks get on earth who made a car bus plants lol you think about more then come back to us on it I can't get my head around the fact that for 1000's of years, there were lots of gods, Egyptian Ra and Set and Isis and all, Greek Zeus and Aphrodite, loads of Roman gods like Mars, etc. Then when Christianity got going, they decided that there was only one god. How could all those people have been so wrong for so long? I don't understand why a minority religion thinks it's right when for the majority of history, they weren't about. They are all wrong, there is, and has never been, a god." In your opinion. | |||
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"thats not nice is it well its upto you end of the day you dont think theres a god then at all how did all thinks get on earth who made a car bus plants lol you think about more then come back to us on it " Really, where would you like me to start with this one? So there's an all powerful invisible Sky pixie who builds cars is there? They're not built in f_ctories by robots then? So why is it that cars have only been around for just over a hundred years, or is it simply a matter of he'd only just got around to it. Look, in all seriousness, as I said in a previous comment, I don't force my beliefs on other people. What anyone chooses to believe in is their choice and THEIRS ALONE Clearly, you don't agree, given your response to someone's comments about how they interacted with uninvited religious canvassers at her door, and to be fair, she had been asked a question and provided an amusing response that was based in FACTS The Bible is a work of Fiction. Scientific evidence proves how the Earth and the planets were formed, how life exists etc. The idea of some all powerful sentient being (or beings) dates back for millennia. The Egyptians had them, as did the Ancient Greeks and the Romans. These belief systems were established to provide some sort of explanation for phenomena that could not be explained. If you wish to believe in God, Krishna, Buddha or whatever, that is, of course, entirely up to you. As for me, I'll stick with scientific proof if you don't mind. | |||
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"thats not nice is it well its upto you end of the day you dont think theres a god then at all how did all thinks get on earth who made a car bus plants lol you think about more then come back to us on it Really, where would you like me to start with this one? So there's an all powerful invisible Sky pixie who builds cars is there? They're not built in f_ctories by robots then? So why is it that cars have only been around for just over a hundred years, or is it simply a matter of he'd only just got around to it. Look, in all seriousness, as I said in a previous comment, I don't force my beliefs on other people. What anyone chooses to believe in is their choice and THEIRS ALONE Clearly, you don't agree, given your response to someone's comments about how they interacted with uninvited religious canvassers at her door, and to be fair, she had been asked a question and provided an amusing response that was based in FACTS The Bible is a work of Fiction. Scientific evidence proves how the Earth and the planets were formed, how life exists etc. The idea of some all powerful sentient being (or beings) dates back for millennia. The Egyptians had them, as did the Ancient Greeks and the Romans. These belief systems were established to provide some sort of explanation for phenomena that could not be explained. If you wish to believe in God, Krishna, Buddha or whatever, that is, of course, entirely up to you. As for me, I'll stick with scientific proof if you don't mind." But that's just the problem. What they believe isn't really their choice. They are unduly influenced to believe whatever they're told, and threatened with expulsion and shunning if they don't agree. | |||
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"But that's just the problem. What they believe isn't really their choice. They are unduly influenced to believe whatever they're told, and threatened with expulsion and shunning if they don't agree." Yes. I would agree. I myself was raised as a Christian and brought up to believe in God. It is in Adult life that I began to question this which is why I now consider myself a practising Atheist I also took the concious decision NOT to have my children baptised. My 8 year old daughter currently believes in God - but she knows that I don't - and we respect each others choices. I don't even use the word's 'Jesus' or 'God' in everyday life. You know, like with OMG etc Probably why I feel quite strongly about religious nutcases leaving people the hell alone. | |||
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"The jehovash wittness what do you all think of them and doing this new thing on the trollys and when they knock on the door " As the comedian Dave Allen always said at the end of his shows " my your god go with you " I'd add ' shut the gate as you go ' | |||
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"But that's just the problem. What they believe isn't really their choice. They are unduly influenced to believe whatever they're told, and threatened with expulsion and shunning if they don't agree. Yes. I would agree. I myself was raised as a Christian and brought up to believe in God. It is in Adult life that I began to question this which is why I now consider myself a practising Atheist I also took the concious decision NOT to have my children baptised. My 8 year old daughter currently believes in God - but she knows that I don't - and we respect each others choices. I don't even use the word's 'Jesus' or 'God' in everyday life. You know, like with OMG etc Probably why I feel quite strongly about religious nutcases leaving people the hell alone." Now I don't want to be pedantic and you seem like a man who can argue his case so I'll risk it. You say you don't use words like Jesus or God as in OMG in every day life but you do use hell. To me that does seem slightly contradictory. | |||
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"The jehovash wittness what do you all think of them and doing this new thing on the trollys and when they knock on the door " Do you mean when they now stand on the street at 7 a.m with a trolley that holds all their promotional material in numerous languages? No problem with that as they don't stop people ( that I have seen ), when they knock on my door I say thank you, no thank, please don't knock again. | |||
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"I respect their choice to knock on my door" I bloody dont! I dont knock their door saying Id like to talk to you about reality so they have no right knocking on mine saying they wanna talk about fairy stories. They get the door shut in their face. My neighbors are actually door knocking jehovas but they dont do our road clearly they dont believe in shitting on their own doorstep lol | |||
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"Plenty of scientists are religious as well, being religious or scientific doesn't exclude you from another." I don't recall saying that Scientists can't be religious. I simply stated that my beliefs are based on scientific fact. You are of course absolutely correct. I've even heard the Magnificent Professor Stephen Hawking mention God. "Now I don't want to be pedantic and you seem like a man who can argue his case so I'll risk it. You say you don't use words like Jesus or God as in OMG in every day life but you do use hell. To me that does seem slightly contradictory." Very well spotted. My comment about them 'leaving them the hell alone' was deliberate. Normally I use 'heck' Just to clarify. OMG - Oh my goodness! I've got a lot better at not using religious based words like this, which can be quite difficult considering how certain phrases use them, and after around 40 years of using the English language it takes a little re-training of the mind. Sometimes I might find myself using a phrase that might contain the word 'God' in it perhaps, and instead of just saying it, I will usually stop, and consider another more suitable word. In the example you mentioned above though, I did actually deliberately choose my words given the context of the discussion | |||
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"Plenty of scientists are religious as well, being religious or scientific doesn't exclude you from another. I've got a friend who is a Jehovah's Witness and she invited me to her Kingdom Hall recently. I was very impressed. The families were all very quiet and disciplined, I'm more used to going to Mass where there is constant noise and the kids run around all over the place. Part of the reason why I stopped attending mass. It's a shame that Jehovah's Witness's seem to be thought of as weird, when every religion is weird in it's own way." Yes, it all seems very impressive at first. But it is a cult. The individuals are lovely, but they are highly controlled without even realising it, giving up their time, money and thinking ability to the organisation. They are not truly a religion, but rather a publishing company. Publishing literature full of misquotes, lies, misrepresentations and logical fallacies, all with a _iew to keeping them serving the organisation. They are coerced into refusing blood transfusions, their child abuse policy is flawed, higher education is actively discouraged, research outside of the organisation's literature is discouraged, most details of their lives are dictated. Do not be fooled by their outward appearance. The organisation is rotten, and it is their leader who are at fault, old men in New York who are on a power trip. | |||
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"I respect their choice to knock on my door I bloody dont! I dont knock their door saying Id like to talk to you about reality so they have no right knocking on mine saying they wanna talk about fairy stories. They get the door shut in their face. My neighbors are actually door knocking jehovas but they dont do our road clearly they dont believe in shitting on their own doorstep lol" Precisely! They have ventured on to your property uninvited to disturb your private life Actually, technically, they are in Breach of Article 8 of the 1998 Human Rights Act, but I won't go into that. What I stopped short of saying about having asked to be placed on their 'do not call' list is that, now that they have been specifically informed that they are not welcome, if they venture onto my property again, they will be guilty of trespassing. And I have actually looked into the technicalities of the law regarding trespassing. For example, if you post a notice at the front of your property prohibiting people form venturing onto or across your property, then, in the eyes of the law, they are considered to have been advised and therefore become guilty of trespassing if they choose to ignore it. | |||
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"When I was heavily pregnant some JW ladies knocked and asked "do you ever wonder how life got started?" , I looked at my stomach, smiled and replied "I think I know" I got blank states in response lol thats not nice is it well its upto you end of the day you dont think theres a god then at all how did all thinks get on earth who made a car bus plants lol you think about more then come back to us on it I can't get my head around the fact that for 1000's of years, there were lots of gods, Egyptian Ra and Set and Isis and all, Greek Zeus and Aphrodite, loads of Roman gods like Mars, etc. Then when Christianity got going, they decided that there was only one god. How could all those people have been so wrong for so long? I don't understand why a minority religion thinks it's right when for the majority of history, they weren't about. They are all wrong, there is, and has never been, a god. In your opinion. " It is my opinion but there has never been anything in any religion to suggest any of it is credible. Take away the religious element from any of the tales in any of the religious scripts and most people would say whatever. Most fairytales are not as outrageous. | |||
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"I respect their choice to knock on my door I bloody dont! I dont knock their door saying Id like to talk to you about reality so they have no right knocking on mine saying they wanna talk about fairy stories. They get the door shut in their face. My neighbors are actually door knocking jehovas but they dont do our road clearly they dont believe in shitting on their own doorstep lol Precisely! They have ventured on to your property uninvited to disturb your private life Actually, technically, they are in Breach of Article 8 of the 1998 Human Rights Act, but I won't go into that. What I stopped short of saying about having asked to be placed on their 'do not call' list is that, now that they have been specifically informed that they are not welcome, if they venture onto my property again, they will be guilty of trespassing. And I have actually looked into the technicalities of the law regarding trespassing. For example, if you post a notice at the front of your property prohibiting people form venturing onto or across your property, then, in the eyes of the law, they are considered to have been advised and therefore become guilty of trespassing if they choose to ignore it. " Garbage | |||
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" For example, if you post a notice at the front of your property prohibiting people form venturing onto or across your property, then, in the eyes of the law, they are considered to have been advised and therefore become guilty of trespassing if they choose to ignore it. Garbage " I'm not sure which part of the full quote you are referring to, but the part about trespass to land and implied permission to enter your land is good law. You can expressly prohibit this in certain cases and JW would fall within that. | |||
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"The jehovash wittness what do you all think of them and doing this new thing on the trollys and when they knock on the door " I was raised in that religion and left it first chance I got. If they come to my door now, I engage them in counter argument until their ears bleed! | |||
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"I have asked, on a couple of occasions, when they've knocked at my house, to be put on their 'Do not call on' list. Yes, they have one. They have knocked since but have been sternly informed that I have twice asked to be placed on this list and that they are not welcome to call again. Haven't had a knock from them recently I have no problem with people having beliefs. It is entirely their choice. What I do have a problem with is when they attempt to inflict those beliefs on others. " I asked the same thing two years ago. I politely said that i respect their beliefs but do not share them and ask only that they respect my right to do that by putting me on the do not knock list. Not temporarily, my mind will not change. I haven't had a knock since. | |||
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" For example, if you post a notice at the front of your property prohibiting people form venturing onto or across your property, then, in the eyes of the law, they are considered to have been advised and therefore become guilty of trespassing if they choose to ignore it. Garbage I'm not sure which part of the full quote you are referring to, but the part about trespass to land and implied permission to enter your land is good law. You can expressly prohibit this in certain cases and JW would fall within that. " Really ? And what happens if someone ignores this and enters your land ? | |||
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" For example, if you post a notice at the front of your property prohibiting people form venturing onto or across your property, then, in the eyes of the law, they are considered to have been advised and therefore become guilty of trespassing if they choose to ignore it. Garbage I'm not sure which part of the full quote you are referring to, but the part about trespass to land and implied permission to enter your land is good law. You can expressly prohibit this in certain cases and JW would fall within that. Really ? And what happens if someone ignores this and enters your land ? " They are liable in tort. You can sue them. My gaffer is doing a law degree and I read this stuff out to him. It's not the most dynamic way to pass the time, but it does tend to stick in my head. | |||
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" For example, if you post a notice at the front of your property prohibiting people form venturing onto or across your property, then, in the eyes of the law, they are considered to have been advised and therefore become guilty of trespassing if they choose to ignore it. Garbage I'm not sure which part of the full quote you are referring to, but the part about trespass to land and implied permission to enter your land is good law. You can expressly prohibit this in certain cases and JW would fall within that. Really ? And what happens if someone ignores this and enters your land ? They are liable in tort. You can sue them. My gaffer is doing a law degree and I read this stuff out to him. It's not the most dynamic way to pass the time, but it does tend to stick in my head. " Oh right does that mean it's civil law then | |||
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