FabSwingers.com forum: Sorry, need to rant a bit

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

tHIRD ATTEMPT

i have noticed that a lot of straight guys in a straight m/f couple seem to get their knickers in a knot if a m/f couple with a bi guy want to play with them,

But see if their wife is straight and the other woman is bi or bi curious the husbands love it.

Tonight i was reliably informed that BI CURIOUS when applied to a guy means he likes guys more than ladies but BI CURIOUS applied to a lady means she still likes the husband shagging her more than she likes women.

I cant understand why any straight husband would worry about whether the other guy was Bi or mot, all he should be worried about is satisfying the BI guys wife,

I know my husband who is BI CURIOUS has never even thought about a straight guy in a swap situation in any other way than the guy better treat me right and it really pisses me off that attitudes like this still prevail and people think just coz a guy is Bi or Bi Curious he will grab every cock in sight.

Bi guys respect boundaries just the same as everyone else. And lets face it, when a bi guy has sex with his partner, like we do almost every night then it suggests he does a good job of straight as well.

Just coz a guy is Bi Curious doesnt mean he is automatically going to hit on straight guys,

Now, having been told that Adam being Bi Curious means he likes boys more than girls, does this mean that the joker who said that is crap in bed OR HIS WIFE LIKES GIRLS MORE coz his wife is BI CURIOUS!!!

Good god, somehow I dont think ignorance is bliss.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't let it worry you, that's just one persons opinion, whether it's formed by lack of knowledge on the subject or through experience I don't know.

Have to say though, it's not always a case of the straight guy assuming the bi guy wont be able to keep his hands off him, but sometimes the woman (bi or straight) not liking the idea of 2 guys together. Sometimes it's a fear of STD's as it's thought guys playing with both sexes are a bigger threat. I'm not suggesting that's the actual case.

Point is, it's all about choice, if the thought of it (it being whatever sexual) turns us on then we go for it, if something puts us off then we don't, generally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What absolute poppycock

to me, bi curious means that someone has suddenly discovered they are attracted to the same sex, they then lose the term curious when they have had some experience and become bi sexual. However there are then different levels; some like to suck cock or have their cock sucked but dont want to fuck or be fucked, some like all aspects but still like women too, sometimes more than they like women, and the opposite. People also go through phases of maybe preferring one sex for a long time, then they meet someone and decide to swap for a while.

That goes for women too, i prefer men but am partial to a lovely pussy

but i did have several relationships with women till i met a nice gentleman

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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Dear OP

You are on a journey of discovery... and as you are already discovering… even though this is a site based around recreational sex, the people are just a mishmash of general society and therefore carry all the same baggage and misconceptions society in general have on the subject of sexuality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There will always be the blokes who think that if they even look at another blokes cock for more than three seconds that makes em gay and they are terrified of it they also think that if any bloke likes cock then that bloke has no self control at all and will have him on all fours humping away whether "ya likes it or not mate" lol

Good job that most blokes in the swinging world live in the real world and can cope with the fact that the bi male in their threesome/foursome aint gonna try it on with them lol xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hear hear! lol. we dont mind if a couple we met has a bi or straight male. we have met both, never had any problems with bi guys as we always make it perfectly clear that ger is straight and what the boundaries with regards to play are. what people do when we are not with them doesn't concern us as we always have safe sex. so whether they go with women, men or both we couldn't care less.
"There will always be the blokes who think that if they even look at another blokes cock for more than three seconds that makes em gay and they are terrified of it they also think that if any bloke likes cock then that bloke has no self control at all and will have him on all fours humping away whether "ya likes it or not mate" lol

Good job that most blokes in the swinging world live in the real world and can cope with the fact that the bi male in their threesome/foursome aint gonna try it on with them lol xx"

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By *entboy5Man
over a year ago

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I am orally and manualy bi, I would never do thids with just another guy, only with a couple, and only because at their request. My profile states that I am straight, because as far as I am concerned I am straight. When I am with a couple I am there for their pleasure and that is what I try to do, I don't get my kicks from the phyisical side of it, I get my pleasure from seeing the pleasure they are both getting from it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got to agree with 99% of what's already been said. Class rant by the way lol. What we find rude is this kind of line on peoples profile;

"We don't meet bisexual guys even if you say you can play straight. You're not. Get over it".

This is usually in bold capitals!!! While we appreciate the amateur psychological and sexual profiling I would imagine such people might eventually be happy to get any action at all. Such people have no worries about being penetrated by a bi guys cock as they're so far up their own arse there isn't room for anything else [unless they've got an arse like a wizards sleeve lol. So arrogant and so rude and consequently so unattractive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally don't have a problem with bi or bi-curious guys.Gay guys tend to be in general very entertaining with humour especially within the company of a straight guy with a sense of humour.

If you're gonna meet straight or bi etc,you're gonna talk about boundaries etc prior to meeting.

However it's all about personal preference and each to their own and having choice.

May be if some of the straight guys took a female to funny girls in Blackpool they may well find it a very humouress evening.

Bottom line is if a straight man is although shouldn't be is forced into something bi,by a bi guy during play,surely he could show he is a man and say "oi I don't think so" calmly and if that don't work "oi get out" or else !

That perhaps should be a very 0.0001 % occurence or less and people usually iron these things out before meeting.

I actually find it amusing when meeting a straight cpl playing straight then finding out that perhaps he was not as manly as he suggested,secretly has a crush on me as a man lol.

This subject has/is/always will be a "grey area" because there are probably alot that are bi or curious that are prepared to do anything to please their partner and not actually technically enjoying.There is those that are not ever involved in playing bi but mentally they are really getting a kick out of it,perhaps being turned on by the thought of the untouchable.

This site is about fun ???

The rants are off-putting to many people but it's better out in the open and can be constructive ??

No point boiling it up and exploding at the wrong time ???

Everybody should respect honesty but realistically it doesn't always happen.

Often a lot of respect is giving to people who are honest and should be.

However how many relationships have gone well,when one knows something about their partner,it perhaps keeps them together cause thay aint sure only 99%..... then the guy becomes a Man and admits whatever it is and she says "I wish you had not of told me" and ends it.

It happens,shit happens,it's life.....

It takes a man to stand in a changing room bollock naked who is straight and not feel threatened....

Takes respect to keep yourself covered aware that others may not wanna see you ...

The one that stands there with his towel hanging on his massive erection to cover it... takes all sorts !!

So what are people supposed to do to keep everyone happy ??? That will never happen .....

Surely though talk online for a bit if you feel things are going well,pick up the phone and bloody well phone them and ask to confirm, is gonna be as good as asking face to face and will save wasting time arranging a meeting.Which requires a lot of effort especially for those with children and other committments etc ...

Don't ya think the word Gay is used for an expression of just about everything other than it should be???

More often than not,when a woman refers to a man not being a man .... surely then he would be a lesbian ????

Technically you have to be man to be gay.

English is terrible really, so many meanings for one word you've just gotta talk about it to understand exactly where people are coming from

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By *it of fun cplCouple
over a year ago

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The one that gets me is that we have the male as bi curious and get guys wanting to meet and they say I am bi too but their profile states straight! Bi curious is just that..Curious

MrH would never meet a guy on a 1 to 1 basis but if we are all on the floor and a hand touches his cock he does not worry if it is a guy or girl.. just dont go near his bum !! lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It is about choice, cant ever take issue with that. std, well dont know, only play ultra safe and never researched it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Adam would never meet a guy one to one and he is bi curious, but i have left him alone in bed with a few and he said he didnt realise I had gone.

He doesnt worry about who touches his cock either, but no straight guy ever has.

We only play as a couple, and its young bi guys we sort of like the best, I get the best of both worlds, and so does both the guys.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Communication is the key.

I needed to rant a bit to get great input like your reply and having read what you have said I am glad I did rant.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Yep, I hadnt expected it here, and its not the first time nor the last I will admit I am a bit naive, and protective of MY MAN, and he is 100 percent MAN.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Oh god, I have done there replies all wrong, woops, no good at this, so sorry, you nwill all have to work out who I was speaking to, haha

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"There will always be the blokes who think that if they even look at another blokes cock for more than three seconds that makes em gay and they are terrified of it they also think that if any bloke likes cock then that bloke has no self control at all and will have him on all fours humping away whether "ya likes it or not mate" lol

Good job that most blokes in the swinging world live in the real world and can cope with the fact that the bi male in their threesome/foursome aint gonna try it on with them lol xx"

Exactly, couldnt have put it better myself

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Don't let it worry you, that's just one persons opinion, whether it's formed by lack of knowledge on the subject or through experience I don't know.

Point is, it's all about choice, if the thought of it (it being whatever sexual) turns us on then we go for it, if something puts us off then we don't, generally.

It is about choice, cant ever take issue with that. std, well dont know, only play ultra safe and never researched it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The one that gets me is that we have the male as bi curious and get guys wanting to meet and they say I am bi too but their profile states straight! Bi curious is just that..Curious

MrH would never meet a guy on a 1 to 1 basis but if we are all on the floor and a hand touches his cock he does not worry if it is a guy or girl.. just dont go near his bum !! lol "

Adam would never meet a guy one to one and he is bi curious, but i have left him alone in bed with a few and he said he didnt realise I had gone.

He doesnt worry about who touches his cock either, but no straight guy ever has.

We only play as a couple, and its young bi guys we sort of like the best, I get the best of both worlds, and so does both the guys.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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That goes for women too, i prefer men but am partial to a lovely pussy

Same here, want directions to our humble abode.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Dear OP

Yep, I hadnt expected it here, and its not the first time nor the last I will admit I am a bit naive, and protective of MY MAN, and he is 100 percent MAN.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I am orally and manualy bi, I would never do thids with just another guy, only with a couple, and only because at their request. My profile states that I am straight, because as far as I am concerned I am straight. When I am with a couple I am there for their pleasure and that is what I try to do, I don't get my kicks from the phyisical side of it, I get my pleasure from seeing the pleasure they are both getting from it. "

You sound like our kind of guy and much like Adam. Lucky couples who you meet.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Personally don't have a problem with bi or bi-curious guys.Gay guys tend to be in general very entertaining with humour especially within the company of a straight guy with a sense of humour.

If you're gonna meet straight or bi etc,you're gonna talk about boundaries etc prior to meeting.

However it's all about personal preference and each to their own and having choice.

May be if some of the straight guys took a female to funny girls in Blackpool they may well find it a very humouress evening.

That perhaps should be a very 0.0001 % occurence or less and people usually iron these things out before meeting.

I actually find it amusing when meeting a straight cpl playing straight then finding out that perhaps he was not as manly as he suggested,secretly has a crush on me as a man lol.

This site is about fun ???

The rants are off-putting to many people but it's better out in the open and can be constructive ??

No point boiling it up and exploding at the wrong time ???

Everybody should respect honesty but realistically it doesn't always happen.

Often a lot of respect is giving to people who are honest and should be.

It happens,shit happens,it's life.....

It takes a man to stand in a changing room bollock naked who is straight and not feel threatened....

Takes respect to keep yourself covered aware that others may not wanna see you ...

The one that stands there with his towel hanging on his massive erection to cover it... takes all sorts !!

So what are people supposed to do to keep everyone happy ??? That will never happen .....

Don't ya think the word Gay is used for an expression of just about everything other than it should be???

More often than not,when a woman refers to a man not being a man .... surely then he would be a lesbian ????

Technically you have to be man to be gay.

English is terrible really, so many meanings for one word you've just gotta talk about it to understand exactly where people are coming from

Communication is the key.

I needed to rant a bit to get great input like your reply and having read what you have said I am glad I did rant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Communication is the key.

I needed to rant a bit to get great input like your reply and having read what you have said I am glad I did rant.

Hi everyone

This is my first post but hopefully not my last,I have read with interest all the replies on this topic and having had friends who are either bi of fully gay, i can agree with everything that has been said in reponse to your rant.

I have not had first hand experience of swinging with a bi/bi courious male as part of a couple yet but i would hope that i would react well should a hand stray lol

I have always found male's who are either bi /bi courious or gay have a whicked sense of humour but always respectfull of a straight males feelings.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Communication is the key.

I needed to rant a bit to get great input like your reply and having read what you have said I am glad I did rant.

Hi everyone

I have always found male's who are either bi /bi courious or gay have a whicked sense of humour but always respectfull of a straight males feelings."

Thats what I have always found as well, no doubt about that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Prey, do we not always need to rant from time to time?

Would we normal if we didn't?

Paddy x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Prey, do we not always need to rant from time to time?

Would we normal if we didn't?

Paddy x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nice rant

we are all born bi , just takes some people more time to accept it than others, those that never do only ever see one side of life

boring lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Got to agree with 99% of what's already been said. Class rant by the way lol. What we find rude is this kind of line on peoples profile;

"We don't meet bisexual guys even if you say you can play straight. You're not. Get over it".

Gosh thats a rude comment to put on ones profile isnt it? Perhaps its them that need to get over their arrogance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"nice rant

we are all born bi , just takes some people more time to accept it than others, those that never do only ever see one side of life

boring lol "

Nope quite right, i didnt discover i liked ladies till i was about 43 and it answers why i looked at women in the manner i did over the years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"nice rant

we are all born bi , just takes some people more time to accept it than others, those that never do only ever see one side of life

boring lol "

You're opinion...quite like the view from my side of the fence!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it lets you know who controls the account

no bi men, even if playing straight, Bi or straight women welcome = man controls the account.

But i'm sure most have noticed how many straight men(on profile)are happy to have some bi fun.

I would think it's a physical attraction (and a bit of personality) for sex and fun. I'm sure everyone chats about the sort of fun they want when meeting...

There are plenty of profiles on here and other sites where you can meet people who like the same fun with similar views and attitudes as yourself.

No point in trying to get a square peg in a round hole...

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By *woBiTwoCouple
over a year ago

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No point in trying to get a square peg in a round hole...

... oh, I don't know... could be fun trying!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"it lets you know who controls the account

no bi men, even if playing straight, Bi or straight women welcome = man controls the account.

But i'm sure most have noticed how many straight men(on profile)are happy to have some bi fun.

I would think it's a physical attraction (and a bit of personality) for sex and fun. I'm sure everyone chats about the sort of fun they want when meeting...

There are plenty of profiles on here and other sites where you can meet people who like the same fun with similar views and attitudes as yourself.

No point in trying to get a square peg in a round hole...

I can tell you for sure that you are not right with your reckoning on who controls the profile.

It's as presumptious as the OP's mention that bi guys always much prefer guys.

Both are poop.

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By *woBiTwoCouple
over a year ago

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Both are poop."

.. that a technical phrase, Shaga?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can tell you for sure that you are not right with your reckoning on who controls the profile.

It's as presumptious as the OP's mention that bi guys always much prefer guys.

Both are poop."

Do you speak for all or just you

Having read many posts, and it seems I can think what I like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"tHIRD ATTEMPT

i have noticed that a lot of straight guys in a straight m/f couple seem to get their knickers in a knot if a m/f couple with a bi guy want to play with them,

But see if their wife is straight and the other woman is bi or bi curious the husbands love it.

I cant understand why any straight husband would worry about whether the other guy was Bi or mot, all he should be worried about is satisfying the BI guys wife,

Just coz a guy is Bi Curious doesnt mean he is automatically going to hit on straight guys,

Good god, somehow I dont think ignorance is bliss."

WELL SAID!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can tell you for sure that you are not right with your reckoning on who controls the profile.

It's as presumptious as the OP's mention that bi guys always much prefer guys.

Both are poop.

Do you speak for all or just you

Having read many posts, and it seems I can think what I like

doesn't matter who I speak for, fact is it's not always the guy that prefers to share playtime with a straight guy.

But, as you say, if it's easier to believe it's the straight guy that refused you and not the woman then I wont spoil your day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both are poop.

.. that a technical phrase, Shaga?

well, if we talk out of our arses then yes I think it can pass as a technical term.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"nice rant

we are all born bi , just takes some people more time to accept it than others, those that never do only ever see one side of life

boring lol "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"nice rant

we are all born bi , just takes some people more time to accept it than others, those that never do only ever see one side of life

boring lol

I thought the same.

Next they'l be telling us we all originate from Adam and Eve.

It's funny how open minded now seems to mean must play with bi guys no matter your personal preference, it used to mean we are considerate of other people's preference.

Feckin biggots

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"nice rant

we are all born bi , just takes some people more time to accept it than others, those that never do only ever see one side of life

boring lol

I thought the same.

Next they'l be telling us we all originate from Adam and Eve.

It's funny how open minded now seems to mean must play with bi guys no matter your personal preference, it used to mean we are considerate of other people's preference.

Feckin biggots

I always find it a big insult that when people say I am bi really and just don't know my true sexuality yet.

I think I should be the judge of that.

Imagine the outcry if we said all bi people are not really bi, they are just pretending to be bi because it seems a fashionable thing to do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

great thread.. I have put bisexual in my profile and it amazes me how many "straight" guys message me.

As many of you say I am respectful of boundaries and if a guy is straight that that not a problem.. more fun for thw lady

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