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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

One thing we find more and more often, both on the site and in clubs,is that most couples on here have a massive age difference. It's usually a younger girl with a far, far older guy. That's not a huge problem of courses, it just makes it very odd... It's something I've never understood. We get requests from amazingly sexy twenty year olds who have a 50 year old partner? Is this common to other people too? Is there a reason or this?

Another thing we see is that a lot of couples just quite simply do not match! Sexy woman with mess of a man!! It's always awkward to be out and get chatted to by them and think "yeah she's heaven but you... Ugh... UGH!". It just doesn't compute! Of course love knows no bounds but when she looks like a model and he has no teeth... Boggles our minds!

So how come, in this lifestyle, this is so common do you think? We have no problem with these people, at all, but it can't be just is that's seen this? C xx

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By *anda4001Couple
over a year ago

Norfolk

That is a really good point!

We've had the same situation as what you have described. Beautiful girls and much older unattractive men.

It makes you wander whether they met through swinging or met before hand. You don't tend to see many couples like that walking around in day to day life though... So god knows..??

Maybe the older guy/younger girl fetish is more prominent than I think.

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By *o new WinksMan
over a year ago

BSE

Wher do I find me one of these hot 20 yr olds then ?

I am a 'mess' of an older guy girls...come get me

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

Oh my! I really will hush! Yeap nawty step will give me piles! Lol

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By *aughty2foryouCouple
over a year ago

Devon/Cornwall

As a couple with an age difference (although a smaller one than 50 years ) we have noticed something similar in terms of level of attractiveness. We have spoken to quite a few couples where one is more attractive than the other. Guess it goes to show that it's not just beauty that comes into it, but a whole host of things. We do hope people find us both attractive though...but then who doesn't!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure, but I'd prefer 10-20 years older than me. I seem to be more compatible with those older than younger. Plus they wear suits better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Age dosn't matter but in couples u have to find both attractive, I've heard summers couple's talk about 'taking one for the team'

Fuck that!

Seems like there's loads of lovely women with fellas playing way above their league

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By *o new WinksMan
over a year ago

BSE

I reiterate...I am a semi pro old git looking for a premiership newly post-teen to sign on.

Contract may include playing away when my libido is sadly blown away by your hormone levels.

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

The huge age gap is not something we have noticed. Most have had a gap of 5-10 years at the most, which is nothing.

As for not being evenly matched...Maybe that's what they find attractive, not everyone likes the same look/type. Or maybe they just loved their personality and company. Not everything is about looks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have an age gap of 29 years and 5 days but I'd say we're an unusual couple all together. We met the normal sort of way, I worked with his sister, we met and pretty much fell in love immediately, got engaged in less than a month at Christmas and I moved in a week later. We only started this kind of thing about 2 weeks ago.

We do get funny looks in the street and people often make cruel comments. Ironically its me (the 22 year old) who it doesn't bother because I don't really see the difference and Mick that it upsets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im just wondering how the Op knows thse guys have no teeth, or are they generalising, maybe thats why they dont get it, just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yeah I had noticed, was wondering is that why they are swingers because the older man isn't enough for his younger partner.

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By *reedy_for_funCouple
over a year ago

My House

Actually I think we're a little bit opposite. I often look at the man I think "wow, yummy" while the OH wouldn't touch the female with a barge pole.

But to your post in general. The older guy might have a great personality, treat her well and not just as a sex object. He may have a steady income, he may be kind, gentle and devoted. He may stimulate the parts that aren't connected to her sex organs because after all, relationships aren't all physical are they?

You don't know the reasons why she's with that older, uglier guy as you call him. It may be a match made in heaven for both of them. She may get all she wants physically from other, younger guys and girls (maybe that's why they swing anyway) but would never be interested in having a relationship with them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have noticed it the other way round too, fit guys with women they can do far batter, there is a guy who goes to a club i use who is lush and with a woman he really could do better with physically but when its a life partner people go for more than looks, plus i guess all because we look at someone and think they aren't attractive that does not mean they see them the same, they could be looking at us and think the same

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I don't know why people concern themselves with other peoples relationships to be honest, I don't know why people don't just concentrate on their own. If your not attracted to a couple move on to one you do find attractive

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Because it's a discussion forums sweetie, not a "let's all agree and nod chat room". The point is that everybody is different.

I couldn't REALLY care any less. Same as any other person/people talk to me that I don't find attractive in that way. I just move along.

But you can't help but see that, in this life style, it's common. We often hit Xtasia, and watch from the side lines when we get there. Usually it's "she's fit, he's really punching above his weight!" Or "she's fit, that guy can't be with her, he's twice her age!".

Love knows no boundaries. I believe in that. But when your in a sexual relationship in a hobby/activity (swinging) that's mostly about sex, you have to ask why a 18 year old would be interested in a 55 year old man. It's just wrong. If course I he sits back and let's her do what she wants, then that tell you a totally different story about them. It just boggles my mind! I don't lose sleep over it, but like I said before, it's not one or two people, it's usually the majority from what we see when out, and that's really our "options" on who to swing with. We don't "take one for the team", because we are both partners in this. So why would I sleep with an old man who has money, just because he has a fit girl on his arm? I'm above that. C x

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Because it's a discussion forums sweetie, not a "let's all agree and nod chat room". The point is that everybody is different.

I couldn't REALLY care any less. Same as any other person/people talk to me that I don't find attractive in that way. I just move along.

But you can't help but see that, in this life style, it's common. We often hit Xtasia, and watch from the side lines when we get there. Usually it's "she's fit, he's really punching above his weight!" Or "she's fit, that guy can't be with her, he's twice her age!".

Love knows no boundaries. I believe in that. But when your in a sexual relationship in a hobby/activity (swinging) that's mostly about sex, you have to ask why a 18 year old would be interested in a 55 year old man. It's just wrong. If course I he sits back and let's her do what she wants, then that tell you a totally different story about them. It just boggles my mind! I don't lose sleep over it, but like I said before, it's not one or two people, it's usually the majority from what we see when out, and that's really our "options" on who to swing with. We don't "take one for the team", because we are both partners in this. So why would I sleep with an old man who has money, just because he has a fit girl on his arm? I'm above that. C x"

well the oldies and the uglies are obviously doing something right if their pulling the young fitties

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By *ench and StripeCouple
over a year ago

Stenalees

Such a broad range if opinions in this thread. Let's throw my take into the ring. Swinging as a hobby or lifestyle is somewhat in outside so cities norms. Most people who swing are probably much less likely to bow to the society peer pressure. In thus case you will see couples who have actively sought out partners based on personal preference rather than the disire to conform. Look around at your non swinging friends I bet a good proportion are in bad or poor relationships. Age gap couples have decided this is what I want in a partner and gone out and found it. As opposed to the peer point of I feel I need a partner to be complete. Not all couples are like this but I bet everyone here knows at least 2 couples that will fall apart.

Good luck to them all and we are happy that meet all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have a big age gap between us. We met through friends and have been happily married for 11 years. We have been in this lifestyle for a while now and love it. My hubby is happy to watch or join in so we don't have much of a problem with the single men. Couples are awkward because of the age difference but we understand this and its not a necessity.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

We are too busy having fun when out to worry bout who, what or why! If we fund people attractive n chemistry there, then age differences and what not ,dont come into it. We have age limits as a rough guide but very fluid with it! Yes i know i said I would hush earlier... Cldnt help it!!! Haha... Ps ... Worth mentioning also that those in age difference relationships dont actually give two hoots what others think and why should they... Seems to bother others more than those in it?

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

far more important is where do these hot 20yo ladies who like older guys hang out(note book and pen poised)

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"We are too busy having fun when out to worry bout who, what or why! If we fund people attractive n chemistry there, then age differences and what not ,dont come into it. We have age limits as a rough guide but very fluid with it! Yes i know i said I would hush earlier... Cldnt help it!!! Haha... Ps ... Worth mentioning also that those in age difference relationships dont actually give two hoots what others think and why should they... Seems to bother others more than those in it? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We don't hang out anywhere, we're just girls who fall in love the same way as anyone else, most of us don't notice the age gap, its other people who do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"One thing we find more and more often, both on the site and in clubs,is that most couples on here have a massive age difference. It's usually a younger girl with a far, far older guy. That's not a huge problem of courses, it just makes it very odd... It's something I've never understood. We get requests from amazingly sexy twenty year olds who have a 50 year old partner? Is this common to other people too? Is there a reason or this?

Another thing we see is that a lot of couples just quite simply do not match! Sexy woman with mess of a man!! It's always awkward to be out and get chatted to by them and think "yeah she's heaven but you... Ugh... UGH!". It just doesn't compute! Of course love knows no bounds but when she looks like a model and he has no teeth... Boggles our minds!"

And would I be right in thinking that when you check these couples profiles out on here, they have 'Not looking for single guys'

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia


"Im just wondering how the Op knows thse guys have no teeth, or are they generalising, maybe thats why they dont get it, just saying "
at ' our ' grand age of 50 ( me soon too!) its a well known fact that we soak our teeth over night in domestos and sometimes forget ( memory loss n all that) to put em back in! Add that to the ' mess ' that we are all in, perhaps we should be put into suspended animation as clearly to some , we are not worthy! we couldn't possibly still look after ourselves and.... ** whispers ** have sex! , just who would find us attractive! shock horror! Lmfao ...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On the teeth aspect, seriously, this one guy had no front teeth, was about 7 foot tall, bald, about 7 stone and at least 55. He was with a girl who was no older than 25' perfect skin, amazing body, looked like a model. We had the "pleasure" of watching them, to which he never let her anywhere without him, she only played with him, he was hung like a snail (about 4inches) and constantly grabbed her arm and never let her walk around. This man in particular SHOUTED at his lady friend when she dared go dance. This man looked like a grandfather who was ill.... But he paid for drinks for them both and loads of people all night.

Doesn't take much to see what's so "sexy" to her there. It's sad really

I know not everybody is like that, but I could never be with somebody for those sorts of reasons C x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We had this same conversation bout the age thing and the mrs said how come im getting worse end of deal lol you get younger pretty girls but I get the old men. I think when a couple chooses us they both getting good deal regardless of age as we equally attractive or like to think that anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't hang out anywhere, we're just girls who fall in love the same way as anyone else, most of us don't notice the age gap, its other people who do "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We had this same conversation bout the age thing and the mrs said how come im getting worse end of deal lol you get younger pretty girls but I get the old men. I think when a couple chooses us they both getting good deal regardless of age as we equally attractive or like to think that anyway."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Although the op has given a more extreme example , it can be the case , and I guess we are all judgemental to a degree .

Fat women with buff guys , short men with tall girls etc......

And being a couple with an age gap , I guess there may be others who judge us .

We met and fell in love a year before looking to swing , and have now been together 4 and a half years . Happily married for over 2 years now .

And whatever anyone else may think , it's our happiness together that matters far more than other people's opinion on whether we are suited !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We had this same conversation bout the age thing and the mrs said how come im getting worse end of deal lol you get younger pretty girls but I get the old men. I think when a couple chooses us they both getting good deal regardless of age as we equally attractive or like to think that anyway."

And modest, too

I'm kidding. Nothing wrong with being content with yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Although the op has given a more extreme example , it can be the case , and I guess we are all judgemental to a degree .

Fat women with buff guys , short men with tall girls etc......

And being a couple with an age gap , I guess there may be others who judge us .

We met and fell in love a year before looking to swing , and have now been together 4 and a half years . Happily married for over 2 years now .

And whatever anyone else may think , it's our happiness together that matters far more than other people's opinion on whether we are suited !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure, but I'd prefer 10-20 years older than me. I seem to be more compatible with those older than younger. Plus they wear suits better "

Hello!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting topic, haven't met many couples at all like that, most couples have been evenly matched age and looks wise, maybe subconsciously haven't seeked those types out though?

But many couples like the OP has said are like this on here and many times have only pictures of the young women on their profiles with lots of guys with them but not their partner.

Have seen much younger sub women with older dom guys though alot on the fet scene. (daddy issues alot of them have )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe just Maybe these "Younger " Women realise that some of the old toothless fogies know how to treat their Women.

Nette and i have a life outside of the swinging scene and would still have a life if it ended tomorrow, We do what we do because we BOTH enjoy it, She loves sex and i get a big kick out of knowing shes getting it and the day she thinks shes taking one for the Team is the day we stop.

Gummy Gimp

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia


"Maybe just Maybe these "Younger " Women realise that some of the old toothless fogies know how to treat their Women.

Nette and i have a life outside of the swinging scene and would still have a life if it ended tomorrow, We do what we do because we BOTH enjoy it, She loves sex and i get a big kick out of knowing shes getting it and the day she thinks shes taking one for the Team is the day we stop.

Gummy Gimp

"

lol

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

Me & Kim get turned down by couples because we are 50+ so there are barriers but we dont lose sleep.

In the adult industry there are lots of couples with big ages differences so we are used to this, I prefer to work with ladies 40+ but if i'm paid to work with a 20yr old I will as its work.

Even though my preference is for mature ladies I work with varying ages so if I was single who knows as I could be one of these old farts myself lol.

People fall in love with a persons personality and looks sometimes go out the window because we all think our partners are sexy and attractive as we see whats inside.

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


"Maybe just Maybe these "Younger " Women realise that some of the old toothless fogies know how to treat their Women.

Nette and i have a life outside of the swinging scene and would still have a life if it ended tomorrow, We do what we do because we BOTH enjoy it, She loves sex and i get a big kick out of knowing shes getting it and the day she thinks shes taking one for the Team is the day we stop.

Gummy Gimp

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It just means more women are having to take one for team lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is 24 year between us

There is also about 7/8 stones, much less head hair, far worse eyesight and in many peoples eyes probably a huge contrast altogether.

BUT (and it's a big one), it works, FOR US, and that remains the salient point here.

The passing thoughts and comments of others are of no consequence.

Why it works ?

Who knows. It just does. Why try and over analyse it ?

It was an initial attraction and a meeting of bodies in which we experienced a meeting of minds, personality and circumstance.

We are blessed.

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By *o new WinksMan
over a year ago

BSE


"There is 24 year between us

There is also about 7/8 stones, much less head hair, far worse eyesight and in many peoples eyes probably a huge contrast altogether.

BUT (and it's a big one), it works, FOR US, and that remains the salient point here.

The passing thoughts and comments of others are of no consequence.

Why it works ?

Who knows. It just does. Why try and over analyse it ?

It was an initial attraction and a meeting of bodies in which we experienced a meeting of minds, personality and circumstance.

We are blessed. "

I envy you your happiness. Dont let it slip away as I and so many others do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is 24 year between us

There is also about 7/8 stones, much less head hair, far worse eyesight and in many peoples eyes probably a huge contrast altogether.

BUT (and it's a big one), it works, FOR US, and that remains the salient point here.

The passing thoughts and comments of others are of no consequence.

Why it works ?

Who knows. It just does. Why try and over analyse it ?

It was an initial attraction and a meeting of bodies in which we experienced a meeting of minds, personality and circumstance.

We are blessed. "

Here here we have been together 25 years and as much in love now as we were when we first met we may not look like the perfect couple (but what is perfect) and to be honest who cares what others think we are perfect to us that's all that counts in my eyes

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

my playmates are all ages .. all younger than me .. i think they re very attractive .. they think i look good too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It just means more women are having to take one for team lol "

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By *aveandkate35Couple
over a year ago

telford

I really wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

In this "lifestyle" your always going to meet couples where you're not attracted to both. Just move on. Like someone said above, why try and analyse it. It works for them.

Get and talk to these people though - I'm not suggesting you play with them or anyone that makes you gag! - but we've often found couples & singles can go up and down in attractiveness very quickly once they open their mouths. Until you do speak there is just 1 aspect you're rating them on.

There is a couple who frequent a club we go to, who are both physically attractive, good looking, great bodies - both of them. However in under 10 seconds of speaking they managed to become the couple we avoid the most now when we're in there. I can't see them in any other way than repulsive.

I'm just saying it can, within reason, work the other way too.

I'm pretty sure escorts take clients to clubs too as experiences so it may have been that too?

D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im 19 and wouldnt let age bother me. As long as they respect me and we bond together

lifes too short to care what people think!

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By *ovkid66Man
over a year ago

Warwick

I am a 48 year old man, with a 21 year old girl friend. I have often questioned her as to what I have and wouldn't she be happier with someone her own age. I have all my own hair and teeth. 6'4" tall, Fairly slim. I am not rich, just a normal guy really. Her answer is always the same. I'm nicer than most guys her own age, not stuck up or pushy, and I treat her right and make her laugh. Maybe this is down to life experiences. I really don't know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful."

I assure you I am not grateful for the attention of a younger person.

I am, however, happy to accept the love of one person who just happens to be younger.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

most of the time its because the man has got more money or is more generous than a younger guy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have a fairly large age gap and although I was on the scene when we got together I left to concentrate on my relationship with Mo, she chased me and though I have asked why she just says "because your you".

She knew I had been a swinger and wanted to know what it's all about so we went to chameleons and have never looked back.

Mo does have a thing for older people she feels they have a better attitude to the scene and are generally nicer in and out of the sack. The though of some 20 something slim muscular guy with a big cock is totally off putting to her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think what surprises me the most about this type of thread is that the originate on the idea of "conformity", yet this lifestyle we choose is non conformist.

So surely, anyone with a degree of intelligence, beyond the superficial would understand their moronic question "why don't non-conformist, conform?" It is after all self explanatory.

I apologise if this seems to be rude or derogatory, but that seems to be the "flavour" of this thread. ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think what surprises me the most about this type of thread is that the originate on the idea of "conformity", yet this lifestyle we choose is non conformist.

So surely, anyone with a degree of intelligence, beyond the superficial would understand their moronic question "why don't non-conformist, conform?" It is after all self explanatory.

I apologise if this seems to be rude or derogatory, but that seems to be the "flavour" of this thread. .. "

Totally agree with that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our age gap, altho not large, is tother way round.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think that this question is like many others which involve the 'sexual self'

There are 6 billion people on the planet and every single one of us looks at sex in our own unique way!

With the advent of the internet, sex is now more than ever, used as a marketing tool and a sales tool! In the past it was used by religious zealots to extol and justify the sanctity of marriage (still is today)

It was used to make us feel guilty and dirty by puritans who believed that mastuerbation, sex before marriage and passionate sex were all mortal sins!!

It's still used today as an indicator of whether a woman is

a 'slag' or a 'fridge' whether a man is as 'stud' or a 'wimp' etc ... all these mixed messages are fed to us by people trying to 'control' our attitudes towards sex and sexual practices!

Why? Because they want you to behave in a certain way!

Why? Because it fits you into their own 'demographic' which in turn makes you easier to peddle their wares to .. be that clothes, cars, hairstyles or religion!

There will ALWAYS be someone on the outside to judge what you are doing within the physical side of a relationship (which is why 99% of swingers don't tell their friends and family) someone will always try to impart their conditioning or guilt or opinion on you! Ignore them!

WE ARE SWINGERS! We are all unique, sexual adventurers that by our very nature are willing to fly in the face of convention and follow our sexual fantasies and desires!

This age gap question, along with a myriad of other 'outside the norm' sexual practices will always provoke debate and discussion .. BUT! Lets just remember that there isn't many people on this site that will quite happily tell their family and friends about what they get up to ..why? ...... Because they will judge you! Make you feel like you are doing something wrong or something that requires very dubious morals ....but we all know different don't we? we are a little more enlightened around sexual activities, which is why we shouldn't be judging these couples!

If you are going to swing with a couple, then surely it's down to whether you find them attractive! Pure and simple! The age as no relevance to anybody other than those looking to judge! I have personally played with all sorts of ages and if someone is sexy ... then they're sexy!

I will also say that I haven't noticed a lot of couples with big age differences ... Perhaps the people that do are looking in a specific place or have narrow criteria .. who knows? but they may want to broaden their sights and see that people are sexy whatever age they are!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its like people on here are always saying though people aren't any different to anyone else, they still judge others for one reason or another.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think that this question is like many others which involve the 'sexual self'

There are 6 billion people on the planet and every single one of us looks at sex in our own unique way!

With the advent of the internet, sex is now more than ever, used as a marketing tool and a sales tool! In the past it was used by religious zealots to extol and justify the sanctity of marriage (still is today)

It was used to make us feel guilty and dirty by puritans who believed that mastuerbation, sex before marriage and passionate sex were all mortal sins!!

It's still used today as an indicator of whether a woman is

a 'slag' or a 'fridge' whether a man is as 'stud' or a 'wimp' etc ... all these mixed messages are fed to us by people trying to 'control' our attitudes towards sex and sexual practices!

Why? Because they want you to behave in a certain way!

Why? Because it fits you into their own 'demographic' which in turn makes you easier to peddle their wares to .. be that clothes, cars, hairstyles or religion!

There will ALWAYS be someone on the outside to judge what you are doing within the physical side of a relationship (which is why 99% of swingers don't tell their friends and family) someone will always try to impart their conditioning or guilt or opinion on you! Ignore them!

WE ARE SWINGERS! We are all unique, sexual adventurers that by our very nature are willing to fly in the face of convention and follow our sexual fantasies and desires!

This age gap question, along with a myriad of other 'outside the norm' sexual practices will always provoke debate and discussion .. BUT! Lets just remember that there isn't many people on this site that will quite happily tell their family and friends about what they get up to ..why? ...... Because they will judge you! Make you feel like you are doing something wrong or something that requires very dubious morals ....but we all know different don't we? we are a little more enlightened around sexual activities, which is why we shouldn't be judging these couples!

If you are going to swing with a couple, then surely it's down to whether you find them attractive! Pure and simple! The age as no relevance to anybody other than those looking to judge! I have personally played with all sorts of ages and if someone is sexy ... then they're sexy!

I will also say that I haven't noticed a lot of couples with big age differences ... Perhaps the people that do are looking in a specific place or have narrow criteria .. who knows? but they may want to broaden their sights and see that people are sexy whatever age they are!

"

Totally agree with that, when we meet someone in a club we are really not bothered by their age, sure we have a preferance but if we get on with someone we are not bothered if they are 18 or 80.

Reality is though it doesn't matter if you out in the real world or in the swinging one there are always people who will want to judge and discriminate.

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over a year ago


"I think that this question is like many others which involve the 'sexual self'

There are 6 billion people on the planet and every single one of us looks at sex in our own unique way!

With the advent of the internet, sex is now more than ever, used as a marketing tool and a sales tool! In the past it was used by religious zealots to extol and justify the sanctity of marriage (still is today)

It was used to make us feel guilty and dirty by puritans who believed that mastuerbation, sex before marriage and passionate sex were all mortal sins!!

It's still used today as an indicator of whether a woman is

a 'slag' or a 'fridge' whether a man is as 'stud' or a 'wimp' etc ... all these mixed messages are fed to us by people trying to 'control' our attitudes towards sex and sexual practices!

Why? Because they want you to behave in a certain way!

Why? Because it fits you into their own 'demographic' which in turn makes you easier to peddle their wares to .. be that clothes, cars, hairstyles or religion!

There will ALWAYS be someone on the outside to judge what you are doing within the physical side of a relationship (which is why 99% of swingers don't tell their friends and family) someone will always try to impart their conditioning or guilt or opinion on you! Ignore them!

WE ARE SWINGERS! We are all unique, sexual adventurers that by our very nature are willing to fly in the face of convention and follow our sexual fantasies and desires!

This age gap question, along with a myriad of other 'outside the norm' sexual practices will always provoke debate and discussion .. BUT! Lets just remember that there isn't many people on this site that will quite happily tell their family and friends about what they get up to ..why? ...... Because they will judge you! Make you feel like you are doing something wrong or something that requires very dubious morals ....but we all know different don't we? we are a little more enlightened around sexual activities, which is why we shouldn't be judging these couples!

If you are going to swing with a couple, then surely it's down to whether you find them attractive! Pure and simple! The age as no relevance to anybody other than those looking to judge! I have personally played with all sorts of ages and if someone is sexy ... then they're sexy!

I will also say that I haven't noticed a lot of couples with big age differences ... Perhaps the people that do are looking in a specific place or have narrow criteria .. who knows? but they may want to broaden their sights and see that people are sexy whatever age they are!

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Totally agree with that, when we meet someone in a club we are really not bothered by their age, sure we have a preference but if we get on with someone we are not bothered if they are 18 or 80.

Reality is though it doesn't matter if you out in the real world or in the swinging one there are always people who will want to judge and discriminate."

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And here lies the true problem! Its not about the couple with the age difference, its about the rest of us that judge them! We should all take a moment before judging someone based on their sexual preferences and actually remember that your 'judgement' is more a reflection of your attitude than anything else!

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over a year ago

It is harder to find couples that we are both attracted to but there are plenty out there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think that this question is like many others which involve the 'sexual self'

There are 6 billion people on the planet and every single one of us looks at sex in our own unique way!

With the advent of the internet, sex is now more than ever, used as a marketing tool and a sales tool! In the past it was used by religious zealots to extol and justify the sanctity of marriage (still is today)

It was used to make us feel guilty and dirty by puritans who believed that mastuerbation, sex before marriage and passionate sex were all mortal sins!!

It's still used today as an indicator of whether a woman is

a 'slag' or a 'fridge' whether a man is as 'stud' or a 'wimp' etc ... all these mixed messages are fed to us by people trying to 'control' our attitudes towards sex and sexual practices!

Why? Because they want you to behave in a certain way!

Why? Because it fits you into their own 'demographic' which in turn makes you easier to peddle their wares to .. be that clothes, cars, hairstyles or religion!

There will ALWAYS be someone on the outside to judge what you are doing within the physical side of a relationship (which is why 99% of swingers don't tell their friends and family) someone will always try to impart their conditioning or guilt or opinion on you! Ignore them!

WE ARE SWINGERS! We are all unique, sexual adventurers that by our very nature are willing to fly in the face of convention and follow our sexual fantasies and desires!

This age gap question, along with a myriad of other 'outside the norm' sexual practices will always provoke debate and discussion .. BUT! Lets just remember that there isn't many people on this site that will quite happily tell their family and friends about what they get up to ..why? ...... Because they will judge you! Make you feel like you are doing something wrong or something that requires very dubious morals ....but we all know different don't we? we are a little more enlightened around sexual activities, which is why we shouldn't be judging these couples!

If you are going to swing with a couple, then surely it's down to whether you find them attractive! Pure and simple! The age as no relevance to anybody other than those looking to judge! I have personally played with all sorts of ages and if someone is sexy ... then they're sexy!

I will also say that I haven't noticed a lot of couples with big age differences ... Perhaps the people that do are looking in a specific place or have narrow criteria .. who knows? but they may want to broaden their sights and see that people are sexy whatever age they are!

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Totally agree with that, when we meet someone in a club we are really not bothered by their age, sure we have a preference but if we get on with someone we are not bothered if they are 18 or 80.

Reality is though it doesn't matter if you out in the real world or in the swinging one there are always people who will want to judge and discriminate.

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And here lies the true problem! Its not about the couple with the age difference, its about the rest of us that judge them! We should all take a moment before judging someone based on their sexual preferences and actually remember that your 'judgement' is more a reflection of your attitude than anything else! "

We are all entitled to think what we like though, just because others don't like it doesn't mean we are wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think that this question is like many others which involve the 'sexual self'

There are 6 billion people on the planet and every single one of us looks at sex in our own unique way!

With the advent of the internet, sex is now more than ever, used as a marketing tool and a sales tool! In the past it was used by religious zealots to extol and justify the sanctity of marriage (still is today)

It was used to make us feel guilty and dirty by puritans who believed that mastuerbation, sex before marriage and passionate sex were all mortal sins!!

It's still used today as an indicator of whether a woman is

a 'slag' or a 'fridge' whether a man is as 'stud' or a 'wimp' etc ... all these mixed messages are fed to us by people trying to 'control' our attitudes towards sex and sexual practices!

Why? Because they want you to behave in a certain way!

Why? Because it fits you into their own 'demographic' which in turn makes you easier to peddle their wares to .. be that clothes, cars, hairstyles or religion!

There will ALWAYS be someone on the outside to judge what you are doing within the physical side of a relationship (which is why 99% of swingers don't tell their friends and family) someone will always try to impart their conditioning or guilt or opinion on you! Ignore them!

WE ARE SWINGERS! We are all unique, sexual adventurers that by our very nature are willing to fly in the face of convention and follow our sexual fantasies and desires!

This age gap question, along with a myriad of other 'outside the norm' sexual practices will always provoke debate and discussion .. BUT! Lets just remember that there isn't many people on this site that will quite happily tell their family and friends about what they get up to ..why? ...... Because they will judge you! Make you feel like you are doing something wrong or something that requires very dubious morals ....but we all know different don't we? we are a little more enlightened around sexual activities, which is why we shouldn't be judging these couples!

If you are going to swing with a couple, then surely it's down to whether you find them attractive! Pure and simple! The age as no relevance to anybody other than those looking to judge! I have personally played with all sorts of ages and if someone is sexy ... then they're sexy!

I will also say that I haven't noticed a lot of couples with big age differences ... Perhaps the people that do are looking in a specific place or have narrow criteria .. who knows? but they may want to broaden their sights and see that people are sexy whatever age they are!

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Totally agree with that, when we meet someone in a club we are really not bothered by their age, sure we have a preference but if we get on with someone we are not bothered if they are 18 or 80.

Reality is though it doesn't matter if you out in the real world or in the swinging one there are always people who will want to judge and discriminate.

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And here lies the true problem! Its not about the couple with the age difference, its about the rest of us that judge them! We should all take a moment before judging someone based on their sexual preferences and actually remember that your 'judgement' is more a reflection of your attitude than anything else!

We are all entitled to think what we like though, just because others don't like it doesn't mean we are wrong."

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There is no right and wrong! It's a question of semantics and ultimately a persons moral compass!

Personally I prefer to see people as being happy and content human beings first, rather than make a judgement based on superficial differences that effect no one except the person making them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On a sexual level I think the older man/younger woman and older woman/younger man relationships make sense. I've yet to meet a guy of around my age who can match my sex drive now I'm older and so I've started to be more open to younger guys on here.

But whether a relationship with a younger guy would work on every other level, I'm not so sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From our stand point the age 'thing' is only an issue if you make it one! I'm 50 this year but certainly don't consider that turning 50 will suddenly make me a 'mess', indeed we've seen numerous 20's and 30's couples who match the OP's description, age had nothing to do with it!

Despite (!) our age difference we are blissfully happy, recently married and most people take us as we are, sadly there will always be a few who think we're odd!!

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

Need to know basis


"One thing we find more and more often, both on the site and in clubs,is that most couples on here have a massive age difference. It's usually a younger girl with a far, far older guy. That's not a huge problem of courses, it just makes it very odd... It's something I've never understood. We get requests from amazingly sexy twenty year olds who have a 50 year old partner? Is this common to other people too? Is there a reason or this?

Another thing we see is that a lot of couples just quite simply do not match! Sexy woman with mess of a man!! It's always awkward to be out and get chatted to by them and think "yeah she's heaven but you... Ugh... UGH!". It just doesn't compute! Of course love knows no bounds but when she looks like a model and he has no teeth... Boggles our minds!

So how come, in this lifestyle, this is so common do you think? We have no problem with these people, at all, but it can't be just is that's seen this? C xx"

Opposites attract.... I like younger men and women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On a sexual level I think the older man/younger woman and older woman/younger man relationships make sense. I've yet to meet a guy of around my age who can match my sex drive now I'm older and so I've started to be more open to younger guys on here.

But whether a relationship with a younger guy would work on every other level, I'm not so sure."

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Good point!

You, along with all the other people that prefer the older/younger relationship, each have your reasons!

It's no one else's concern to try and second guess them!

In this lifestyle, if you appear as a couple then you should be appraised as a couple! If one part of a couple doesn't appeal then move along

Who IS sure about any relationship working? It's always a leap of faith!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful."

Speechless!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older."

Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older.

Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!"

Have heard others say the same though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older.

Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!

Have heard others say the same though."

Well what is it that must be wrong with them, examples please we are all ears here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older.

Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!

Have heard others say the same though.

Well what is it that must be wrong with them, examples please we are all ears here!"

could be anything.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older.

Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!"

Cor that's quite a rude way of telling someone you don't agree with what they're saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So based on that supposition someone could think there was something wrong with a single person on the swinging scene.

But we don't think that way it's all about open mindedness and acceptance and that's where we along with others stand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So based on that supposition someone could think there was something wrong with a single person on the swinging scene.

But we don't think that way it's all about open mindedness and acceptance and that's where we along with others stand."

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Well said! Thats the reason we only meet people such as yourselves!

A genuine, natural and honest couple equals a sexy, relaxed and candid couple! and that's the type of people we want to meet!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older.

Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!

Cor that's quite a rude way of telling someone you don't agree with what they're saying."

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Well to be fair, you don't expect to find that kind of ignorance on a site like this, but as Buddha once said 'be not afraid of casting pearls before swine'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older.

Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!

Cor that's quite a rude way of telling someone you don't agree with what they're saying.

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Well to be fair, you don't expect to find that kind of ignorance on a site like this, but as Buddha once said 'be not afraid of casting pearls before swine' "

Its only ignorant because you don't agree with it.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older.

Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!

Cor that's quite a rude way of telling someone you don't agree with what they're saying.

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Well to be fair, you don't expect to find that kind of ignorance on a site like this, but as Buddha once said 'be not afraid of casting pearls before swine' "

Stick around and prepare to be amazed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older.

Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!

Cor that's quite a rude way of telling someone you don't agree with what they're saying.

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Well to be fair, you don't expect to find that kind of ignorance on a site like this, but as Buddha once said 'be not afraid of casting pearls before swine'

Stick around and prepare to be amazed! "

Yes indeed.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia


"There is 24 year between us

There is also about 7/8 stones, much less head hair, far worse eyesight and in many peoples eyes probably a huge contrast altogether.

BUT (and it's a big one), it works, FOR US, and that remains the salient point here.

The passing thoughts and comments of others are of no consequence.

Why it works ?

Who knows. It just does. Why try and over analyse it ?

It was an initial attraction and a meeting of bodies in which we experienced a meeting of minds, personality and circumstance.

We are blessed. "

exactly this!

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia


"Me & Kim get turned down by couples because we are 50+ so there are barriers but we dont lose sleep.

In the adult industry there are lots of couples with big ages differences so we are used to this, I prefer to work with ladies 40+ but if i'm paid to work with a 20yr old I will as its work.

Even though my preference is for mature ladies I work with varying ages so if I was single who knows as I could be one of these old farts myself lol.

People fall in love with a persons personality and looks sometimes go out the window because we all think our partners are sexy and attractive as we see whats inside."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older.

Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!

Cor that's quite a rude way of telling someone you don't agree with what they're saying.

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Well to be fair, you don't expect to find that kind of ignorance on a site like this, but as Buddha once said 'be not afraid of casting pearls before swine'

Its only ignorant because you don't agree with it."

It's ignorance because it's ignorance! ... my views whether I agree or not does nor alter the fact that the statement that 'there must be something wrong with them' only contains conjecture, supposition and Ignorance! And i'm afraid your statement 'Its only ignorant because you don't agree with it' is quite frankly ignorant !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older.

Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!

Have heard others say the same though."

An intelligent theory behind your assumption then!!

Just for the record, Sam is 22 years younger than me, beautiful, incredibly intelligent and a perfectly well rounded and warm human being ...... In our 4 years together the only thing I have found 'wrong' with her is her inability to use a hoover!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it is other peoples buisness who they choose to be with.

If you look in and think " oh they don't suit" that is your opinion, not the couples, and that is all that matters.

Her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think some couples are totally happy and long term etc, so they may just be life partners who have had their own attraction - which some people may think there is one or another who are out of their league etc.

Others may have met on here and are more interested in being part of a couple who attend clubs etc.

Regardless, couples can do what they like and I guess there's alot of choice for some, and not a lot for others - preferences over circumstances I say.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"I think it is other peoples buisness who they choose to be with.

If you look in and think " oh they don't suit" that is your opinion, not the couples, and that is all that matters.

Her"

Yep!

I have friends with age gaps from 25 years to no gap at all and the age difference is no indicator of success of the relationship.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older."
really?? Can assure you there is nothing " wrong" with my partner lol ... Or is it different if the woman is older? Or the age gap between the two ... when being judged? What is acceptable then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it is down to the people in the relationship as to what suits them and what there happy with. It is not for others to judge or think they know what makes 2 people happy together.

I so want to put I personally think the OP HAS got a problem/hangup over this which is why they started the thread in the first place,but alas I promised the mrs i wouldn't make waves and not mention that point of view on here.

him

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful."
are you talking from experience?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm 27 and I just find myself attracted to men in their late 30s/early 40s

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older.

Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!

Have heard others say the same though.

An intelligent theory behind your assumption then!!

Just for the record, Sam is 22 years younger than me, beautiful, incredibly intelligent and a perfectly well rounded and warm human being ...... In our 4 years together the only thing I have found 'wrong' with her is her inability to use a hoover!!!! "

pmsl i know how to use a hoover but it would be pointless showing her as she is missing attachments that are needed m8 lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience? "

Just an observation, I am very observant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"most of the time its because the man has got more money or is more generous than a younger guy."

Well if that's the reason he's here, he backed the wrong horse pickin me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant."

I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !!

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant."

must be true then!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a young male, an experienced older woman is very attractive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant. must be true then! "

probably is quite a lot of the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant. must be true then!

probably is quite a lot of the time."

carlsberg ?

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

lMFAO oh my!

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

Looks aren't the number one thing for a lot of people. That's your answer.

And really, a 'mess' of a guy? How nice of you. Really sounds like you don't have a problem with these kind of relationships...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant.

I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !! "

it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I count my blessings everyday that I managed to pull a lady who loves my for who I am and not what I look like.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant.

I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !!

it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things."

It doesn't take a genius to just make up an opinion with no evidence to back it up, you're right.

Being with an older man doesn't automatically indicate lack of self esteem. Why on earth would it? Lots of women find older men appealing.

You're being incredibly judgmental in assuming older men can't possibly be attractive, just like the OP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant.

I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !!

it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things."

as I am also very observant in certain matters and do I detect a slight streak of racism in yourself mrs carlsberg ?

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By *lackbirdtimestwoWoman
over a year ago

birmingham

For me an older guy offers experience, wisdom, great conversation and usually a wealth of life experience,, I find them incredible interesting and in turn very sexy.

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By *rs and mr sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

Boldon

There is a large age gap between me and the OH, we met through this site - it started as just a lift to a mutual gathering - by the time we got there, we felt we had been together for a lifetime and people thought we were an established couple. The OH didn't think for one minute that we would still be together after 3 years and planning our wedding as my profile suggested he was out of my age range etc but as age is just a number and love ignores numbers, we don't think about it - he is everything I have looked for, he is kind, considerate and looks after me, takes care of all my needs and I wouldn't be without him - and no, when we used to chat online and even when he picked me up - I couldn't see the wonderful future ahead. We have virtually stopped the swinging side of things as we satisfy each other but we wouldn't leave the site as love the social side of things and sometimes there is a couple out there that pique our interest enough to still want to play but for now, I'm keeping my man to myself - neither of us consider ourselves god's gift so people either want us both or not at all, I'd be offended if someone was playing with either one of us as taking one for the team.

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By *rs and mr sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

Boldon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant.

I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !!

it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things.

as I am also very observant in certain matters and do I detect a slight streak of racism in yourself mrs carlsberg ?"

er, don't you mean ageism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"most of the time its because the man has got more money or is more generous than a younger guy."

That is a sweeping generalisation and a bit unfair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"its like people on here are always saying though people aren't any different to anyone else, they still judge others for one reason or another."

Everyone judges. It's funny when people can't admit they judge... or think it's ok when they do but it's so terrible when other people do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it is other peoples buisness who they choose to be with.

If you look in and think " oh they don't suit" that is your opinion, not the couples, and that is all that matters.

Her

Yep!

I have friends with age gaps from 25 years to no gap at all and the age difference is no indicator of success of the relationship. "

That is it, if they are happy, that is all that matters.

Her

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By *entkevMan
over a year ago

Dover

The only thing that matters is the personality, the physical & mental connection and that you're happy.

If you ever meet anyone/couple and you dont like what you see... regardless of age... then guess what... you DONT have to have sex with them.

A polite retreat will survice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"its like people on here are always saying though people aren't any different to anyone else, they still judge others for one reason or another.

Everyone judges. It's funny when people can't admit they judge... or think it's ok when they do but it's so terrible when other people do it. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant.

I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !!

it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things.

as I am also very observant in certain matters and do I detect a slight streak of racism in yourself mrs carlsberg ?

er, don't you mean ageism."

err,no racism was the right word as i "observed" on your profile it says no blacks or asians ? now I could go down the same road and use the "it dont take a genious to work it out,and most dont like to acknowledge it" arguments you have been using on this thread about age differences but I wont I will just leave it there ok

him

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By *razymadlunaticsCouple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

ok so this is the shallow end of the pool! as it seems that this is just about Young girls being with older guys who are in "your" opinion not fit to date the girl in the profile right????..... OOOOKKKKKKAAAAYYYYY.... just move on if you dont like all that you see. some couples may find this thread really offensive as we do as nobody owes anyone on here an explanation for their choice of partners...

with that said, i think its time for a sharp exit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't mind a granny with the age gap lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no money or looks but I have love for and from a wonderful woman for those that don't understand that I have pity purely because the can never have experience the overwhelming power of true love.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wher do I find me one of these hot 20 yr olds then ?

I am a 'mess' of an older guy girls...come get me "

pmsl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ok so this is the shallow end of the pool! as it seems that this is just about Young girls being with older guys who are in "your" opinion not fit to date the girl in the profile right????..... OOOOKKKKKKAAAAYYYYY.... just move on if you dont like all that you see. some couples may find this thread really offensive as we do as nobody owes anyone on here an explanation for their choice of partners...

with that said, i think its time for a sharp exit "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have no money or looks but I have love for and from a wonderful woman for those that don't understand that I have pity purely because the can never have experience the overwhelming power of true love."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant.

I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !!

it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things.

as I am also very observant in certain matters and do I detect a slight streak of racism in yourself mrs carlsberg ?

er, don't you mean ageism.

err,no racism was the right word as i "observed" on your profile it says no blacks or asians ? now I could go down the same road and use the "it dont take a genious to work it out,and most dont like to acknowledge it" arguments you have been using on this thread about age differences but I wont I will just leave it there ok

him"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ok so this is the shallow end of the pool! as it seems that this is just about Young girls being with older guys who are in "your" opinion not fit to date the girl in the profile right????..... OOOOKKKKKKAAAAYYYYY.... just move on if you dont like all that you see. some couples may find this thread really offensive as we do as nobody owes anyone on here an explanation for their choice of partners...

with that said, i think its time for a sharp exit "

well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant.

I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !!

it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things.

as I am also very observant in certain matters and do I detect a slight streak of racism in yourself mrs carlsberg ?

er, don't you mean ageism.

err,no racism was the right word as i "observed" on your profile it says no blacks or asians ? now I could go down the same road and use the "it dont take a genious to work it out,and most dont like to acknowledge it" arguments you have been using on this thread about age differences but I wont I will just leave it there ok

him"

The last message I got was from a black man and he was rude so I thought I would just put no black or Asian men seeing as a lot of others do and as I have mentioned before our neighbours aren't used to seeing foreign people although I have met a couple of black men before. make of it what you will.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant.

I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !!

it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things.

as I am also very observant in certain matters and do I detect a slight streak of racism in yourself mrs carlsberg ?

er, don't you mean ageism.

err,no racism was the right word as i "observed" on your profile it says no blacks or asians ? now I could go down the same road and use the "it dont take a genious to work it out,and most dont like to acknowledge it" arguments you have been using on this thread about age differences but I wont I will just leave it there ok

him

The last message I got was from a black man and he was rude so I thought I would just put no black or Asian men seeing as a lot of others do and as I have mentioned before our neighbours aren't used to seeing foreign people although I have met a couple of black men before. make of it what you will."

so why haven't you got no whites either ? because I KNOW for a fact you will of received rude messages from them to . I am not judging you or actually accusing you of being a racist hun I am just showing you that "observing" does not give you an accurate picture.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there are a lot more white men on here that's why.

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By *razymadlunaticsCouple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ok so this is the shallow end of the pool! as it seems that this is just about Young girls being with older guys who are in "your" opinion not fit to date the girl in the profile right????..... OOOOKKKKKKAAAAYYYYY.... just move on if you dont like all that you see. some couples may find this thread really offensive as we do as nobody owes anyone on here an explanation for their choice of partners...

with that said, i think its time for a sharp exit "

Very well said, thankyou

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia


"ok so this is the shallow end of the pool! as it seems that this is just about Young girls being with older guys who are in "your" opinion not fit to date the girl in the profile right????..... OOOOKKKKKKAAAAYYYYY.... just move on if you dont like all that you see. some couples may find this thread really offensive as we do as nobody owes anyone on here an explanation for their choice of partners...

with that said, i think its time for a sharp exit "

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older."
have you not said in the past that your husband is older than you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. have you not said in the past that your husband is older than you? "

Whats that got to do with it?

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. have you not said in the past that your husband is older than you?

Whats that got to do with it?"

well alot really seeing as you are judging others with your observations! Is why I asked you if you are talking from experience?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. have you not said in the past that your husband is older than you?

Whats that got to do with it? well alot really seeing as you are judging others with your observations! Is why I asked you if you are talking from experience? "

Yes probably.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah so you would be the one with the low self esteem then, based on your logic and your words.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia


"Ah so you would be the one with the low self esteem then, based on your logic and your words. "
exactly this! Right I outta this thread now!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Because it's a discussion forums sweetie, not a "let's all agree and nod chat room". The point is that everybody is different.

I couldn't REALLY care any less. Same as any other person/people talk to me that I don't find attractive in that way. I just move along.

But you can't help but see that, in this life style, it's common. We often hit Xtasia, and watch from the side lines when we get there. Usually it's "she's fit, he's really punching above his weight!" Or "she's fit, that guy can't be with her, he's twice her age!".

Love knows no boundaries. I believe in that. But when your in a sexual relationship in a hobby/activity (swinging) that's mostly about sex, you have to ask why a 18 year old would be interested in a 55 year old man. It's just wrong. If course I he sits back and let's her do what she wants, then that tell you a totally different story about them. It just boggles my mind! I don't lose sleep over it, but like I said before, it's not one or two people, it's usually the majority from what we see when out, and that's really our "options" on who to swing with. We don't "take one for the team", because we are both partners in this. So why would I sleep with an old man who has money, just because he has a fit girl on his arm? I'm above that. C x"

"You're above that"?!

Young women with older guys is "just wrong"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ah so you would be the one with the low self esteem then, based on your logic and your words. "

Quite low self esteem when I got married yes and I have noticed it with others who are with older partners as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Age is academic (within reason) if people find attraction in each other.

Live and let live...

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Age is academic (within reason) if people find attraction in each other.

Live and let live... "

Yes it is and other people's relationships are their business unless abuse is taking place.

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By *razymadlunaticsCouple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough


"Age is academic (within reason) if people find attraction in each other.

Live and let live...

Yes it is and other people's relationships are their business unless abuse is taking place. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Age is academic (within reason) if people find attraction in each other.

Live and let live...

Yes it is and other people's relationships are their business unless abuse is taking place. "

yes it is but people also have a right to their opinion also.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Age is academic (within reason) if people find attraction in each other.

Live and let live...

Yes it is and other people's relationships are their business unless abuse is taking place.

yes it is but people also have a right to their opinion also."

Yes they do and unless that opinion is offensive to someone they have a right to express it. However if an opinion might give offence it is sometimes worth considering Howe its expressed or even if it needs saying at all. The same goes when an opinion is challenged.

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By *razymadlunaticsCouple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough


"Age is academic (within reason) if people find attraction in each other.

Live and let live...

Yes it is and other people's relationships are their business unless abuse is taking place.

yes it is but people also have a right to their opinion also."

Even about someone else's relationship when that person and their relationship is completely unknown to you?.... Really???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't hang out anywhere, we're just girls who fall in love the same way as anyone else, most of us don't notice the age gap, its other people who do "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience?

Just an observation, I am very observant.

I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !!

it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things.

It doesn't take a genius to just make up an opinion with no evidence to back it up, you're right.

Being with an older man doesn't automatically indicate lack of self esteem. Why on earth would it? Lots of women find older men appealing.

You're being incredibly judgmental in assuming older men can't possibly be attractive, just like the OP.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Where did I say I have an issue with old people? I have no issue, I dated a 40 year old man when I was 25. It's not an issue to me, it's just something I've noticed is more obvious in this area. What I was trying to say (later anyway) was more along the lines that we see the likes of Kelly Brook dating Albert Steptoe, and that's not just an age thing. Even worse when you see them treating the lady like shit, but they stick with them because they seem to be flashing their wallets, or so e other reason. We actually witnessed somebody a few weeks back get into a fight with their other half because they were about to go over and floor one older gent because of how nasty he was to people.

I have never and will never mind an older person dating somebody younger. If it's legit, fair play. But there are limits when they are just there for money or what have you.

But going back to my original point, was that in this area, it's more prevalent, which is quite strange. I know G fancies older women, and I do as well, but there's a difference between a milf and a nasty, controlling Albert Steptoe.... And sadly that's a type we've seen far too much. C x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Where did I say I have an issue with old people? I have no issue, I dated a 40 year old man when I was 25. It's not an issue to me, it's just something I've noticed is more obvious in this area. What I was trying to say (later anyway) was more along the lines that we see the likes of Kelly Brook dating Albert Steptoe, and that's not just an age thing. Even worse when you see them treating the lady like shit, but they stick with them because they seem to be flashing their wallets, or so e other reason. We actually witnessed somebody a few weeks back get into a fight with their other half because they were about to go over and floor one older gent because of how nasty he was to people.

I have never and will never mind an older person dating somebody younger. If it's legit, fair play. But there are limits when they are just there for money or what have you.

But going back to my original point, was that in this area, it's more prevalent, which is quite strange. I know G fancies older women, and I do as well, but there's a difference between a milf and a nasty, controlling Albert Steptoe.... And sadly that's a type we've seen far too much. C x"

It is probably more noticeable in a club environment than on the street.

We have been mistaken for father & son on more than one occasion and are both happy with other people drawing that conclusion.

Only in the relative 'safety' of certain scenes / clubs do we readily express the fact we are together

Not because we are ashamed, not because we are afraid but purely because we feel within the confines of those environments it is easier to be affectionate and sexual with each other without aghast looks, judgement or finger pointing.

From some of the posts here, we are naive to believe this to be the case.

As I intimated in an earlier thread, it works for us which remains the salient point and the opinions of others are of little or no consequence.

That said, we recognise that many people in the general public would be uncomfortable with us being together and, out of a respect for that and having no wish to 'rub peoples noses in it', we choose to only be 'close' in environments where it is appropriate for us to be and amongst people that are a little more forwardly thinking.

At least in theory.

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By *ilver_medallistMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

Ideally I would like a 48 yr old woman but I would settle for 2 24 year olds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Where did I say I have an issue with old people? I have no issue, I dated a 40 year old man when I was 25. It's not an issue to me, it's just something I've noticed is more obvious in this area. What I was trying to say (later anyway) was more along the lines that we see the likes of Kelly Brook dating Albert Steptoe, and that's not just an age thing. Even worse when you see them treating the lady like shit, but they stick with them because they seem to be flashing their wallets, or so e other reason. We actually witnessed somebody a few weeks back get into a fight with their other half because they were about to go over and floor one older gent because of how nasty he was to people.

I have never and will never mind an older person dating somebody younger. If it's legit, fair play. But there are limits when they are just there for money or what have you.

But going back to my original point, was that in this area, it's more prevalent, which is quite strange. I know G fancies older women, and I do as well, but there's a difference between a milf and a nasty, controlling Albert Steptoe.... And sadly that's a type we've seen far too much. C x"

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Ideally I would like a 48 yr old woman but I would settle for 2 24 year olds "

Haha, very good!

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By *rneilMan
over a year ago

rochester and pembrokshire


"The huge age gap is not something we have noticed. Most have had a gap of 5-10 years at the most, which is nothing.

As for not being evenly matched...Maybe that's what they find attractive, not everyone likes the same look/type. Or maybe they just loved their personality and company. Not everything is about looks.

Well said

"

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By *rneilMan
over a year ago

rochester and pembrokshire


"The huge age gap is not something we have noticed. Most have had a gap of 5-10 years at the most, which is nothing.

As for not being evenly matched...Maybe that's what they find attractive, not everyone likes the same look/type. Or maybe they just loved their personality and company. Not everything is about looks.

Well said

"

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By *rneilMan
over a year ago

rochester and pembrokshire


"Because it's a discussion forums sweetie, not a "let's all agree and nod chat room". The point is that everybody is different.

I couldn't REALLY care any less. Same as any other person/people talk to me that I don't find attractive in that way. I just move along.

But you can't help but see that, in this life style, it's common. We often hit Xtasia, and watch from the side lines when we get there. Usually it's "she's fit, he's really punching above his weight!" Or "she's fit, that guy can't be with her, he's twice her age!".

Love knows no boundaries. I believe in that. But when your in a sexual relationship in a hobby/activity (swinging) that's mostly about sex, you have to ask why a 18 year old would be interested in a 55 year old man. It's just wrong. If course I he sits back and let's her do what she wants, then that tell you a totally different story about them. It just boggles my mind! I don't lose sleep over it, but like I said before, it's not one or two people, it's usually the majority from what we see when out, and that's really our "options" on who to swing with. We don't "take one for the team", because we are both partners in this. So why would I sleep with an old man who has money, just because he has a fit girl on his arm? I'm above that. C x"

Just wondering who do you actualy think you are to say that two consenting adults is " Just Wrong"

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By *rneilMan
over a year ago

rochester and pembrokshire


"Because it's a discussion forums sweetie, not a "let's all agree and nod chat room". The point is that everybody is different.

I couldn't REALLY care any less. Same as any other person/people talk to me that I don't find attractive in that way. I just move along.

But you can't help but see that, in this life style, it's common. We often hit Xtasia, and watch from the side lines when we get there. Usually it's "she's fit, he's really punching above his weight!" Or "she's fit, that guy can't be with her, he's twice her age!".

Love knows no boundaries. I believe in that. But when your in a sexual relationship in a hobby/activity (swinging) that's mostly about sex, you have to ask why a 18 year old would be interested in a 55 year old man. It's just wrong. If course I he sits back and let's her do what she wants, then that tell you a totally different story about them. It just boggles my mind! I don't lose sleep over it, but like I said before, it's not one or two people, it's usually the majority from what we see when out, and that's really our "options" on who to swing with. We don't "take one for the team", because we are both partners in this. So why would I sleep with an old man who has money, just because he has a fit girl on his arm? I'm above that. C x"

Just wondering who do you actualy think you are to say that two consenting adults is " Just Wrong"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a surprising number of couples and fb's with big age gaps. It can be really nice when the two gel together nicely. Age is just a number and there are some very tidy older males and females. J

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By *ex God and Sex KittenCouple
over a year ago

Planet kitten, North East usually but occasionally South as well

For us age is just a number, other people seem to be more concerned over it than we ever will be. People can think what they like about our relationship and how it works, but what's important is that it works for US. We are happy and that's all that matters.

If we offend anyone else then that's their problem.

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By *iverscuMan
over a year ago

Berkshire

Fuck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a surprising number of couples and fb's with big age gaps. It can be really nice when the two gel together nicely. Age is just a number and there are some very tidy older males and females. J"

Well said !!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Just wondering who do you actualy think you are to say that two consenting adults is " Just Wrong" "

Me. That's who. And I have a right to my opinion just like everybody else. Deal with it. C x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Where did I say I have an issue with old people? I have no issue, I dated a 40 year old man when I was 25. It's not an issue to me, it's just something I've noticed is more obvious in this area. What I was trying to say (later anyway) was more along the lines that we see the likes of Kelly Brook dating Albert Steptoe, and that's not just an age thing. Even worse when you see them treating the lady like shit, but they stick with them because they seem to be flashing their wallets, or so e other reason. We actually witnessed somebody a few weeks back get into a fight with their other half because they were about to go over and floor one older gent because of how nasty he was to people.

I have never and will never mind an older person dating somebody younger. If it's legit, fair play. But there are limits when they are just there for money or what have you.

But going back to my original point, was that in this area, it's more prevalent, which is quite strange. I know G fancies older women, and I do as well, but there's a difference between a milf and a nasty, controlling Albert Steptoe.... And sadly that's a type we've seen far too much. C x"

Thanks for the clarification, certainly doesn't appear to be such an extreme view now, in fact I agree with much of your follow up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Funnily enough, our last meet was with a guy in his late fourties and his girlfriend in her early twenties.

As it happens though, my hubby is younger than me ..... (back of the net)

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