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"Because it's a discussion forums sweetie, not a "let's all agree and nod chat room". The point is that everybody is different. I couldn't REALLY care any less. Same as any other person/people talk to me that I don't find attractive in that way. I just move along. But you can't help but see that, in this life style, it's common. We often hit Xtasia, and watch from the side lines when we get there. Usually it's "she's fit, he's really punching above his weight!" Or "she's fit, that guy can't be with her, he's twice her age!". Love knows no boundaries. I believe in that. But when your in a sexual relationship in a hobby/activity (swinging) that's mostly about sex, you have to ask why a 18 year old would be interested in a 55 year old man. It's just wrong. If course I he sits back and let's her do what she wants, then that tell you a totally different story about them. It just boggles my mind! I don't lose sleep over it, but like I said before, it's not one or two people, it's usually the majority from what we see when out, and that's really our "options" on who to swing with. We don't "take one for the team", because we are both partners in this. So why would I sleep with an old man who has money, just because he has a fit girl on his arm? I'm above that. C x" well the oldies and the uglies are obviously doing something right if their pulling the young fitties | |||
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"We are too busy having fun when out to worry bout who, what or why! If we fund people attractive n chemistry there, then age differences and what not ,dont come into it. We have age limits as a rough guide but very fluid with it! Yes i know i said I would hush earlier... Cldnt help it!!! Haha... Ps ... Worth mentioning also that those in age difference relationships dont actually give two hoots what others think and why should they... Seems to bother others more than those in it? " | |||
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"One thing we find more and more often, both on the site and in clubs,is that most couples on here have a massive age difference. It's usually a younger girl with a far, far older guy. That's not a huge problem of courses, it just makes it very odd... It's something I've never understood. We get requests from amazingly sexy twenty year olds who have a 50 year old partner? Is this common to other people too? Is there a reason or this? Another thing we see is that a lot of couples just quite simply do not match! Sexy woman with mess of a man!! It's always awkward to be out and get chatted to by them and think "yeah she's heaven but you... Ugh... UGH!". It just doesn't compute! Of course love knows no bounds but when she looks like a model and he has no teeth... Boggles our minds!" And would I be right in thinking that when you check these couples profiles out on here, they have 'Not looking for single guys' | |||
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"Im just wondering how the Op knows thse guys have no teeth, or are they generalising, maybe thats why they dont get it, just saying " at ' our ' grand age of 50 ( me soon too!) its a well known fact that we soak our teeth over night in domestos and sometimes forget ( memory loss n all that) to put em back in! Add that to the ' mess ' that we are all in, perhaps we should be put into suspended animation as clearly to some , we are not worthy! we couldn't possibly still look after ourselves and.... ** whispers ** have sex! , just who would find us attractive! shock horror! Lmfao ... | |||
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"We don't hang out anywhere, we're just girls who fall in love the same way as anyone else, most of us don't notice the age gap, its other people who do " | |||
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"We had this same conversation bout the age thing and the mrs said how come im getting worse end of deal lol you get younger pretty girls but I get the old men. I think when a couple chooses us they both getting good deal regardless of age as we equally attractive or like to think that anyway." | |||
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"We had this same conversation bout the age thing and the mrs said how come im getting worse end of deal lol you get younger pretty girls but I get the old men. I think when a couple chooses us they both getting good deal regardless of age as we equally attractive or like to think that anyway." And modest, too I'm kidding. Nothing wrong with being content with yourself. | |||
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"Although the op has given a more extreme example , it can be the case , and I guess we are all judgemental to a degree . Fat women with buff guys , short men with tall girls etc...... And being a couple with an age gap , I guess there may be others who judge us . We met and fell in love a year before looking to swing , and have now been together 4 and a half years . Happily married for over 2 years now . And whatever anyone else may think , it's our happiness together that matters far more than other people's opinion on whether we are suited ! " | |||
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"Not sure, but I'd prefer 10-20 years older than me. I seem to be more compatible with those older than younger. Plus they wear suits better " Hello! | |||
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"Maybe just Maybe these "Younger " Women realise that some of the old toothless fogies know how to treat their Women. Nette and i have a life outside of the swinging scene and would still have a life if it ended tomorrow, We do what we do because we BOTH enjoy it, She loves sex and i get a big kick out of knowing shes getting it and the day she thinks shes taking one for the Team is the day we stop. Gummy Gimp " lol | |||
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"Maybe just Maybe these "Younger " Women realise that some of the old toothless fogies know how to treat their Women. Nette and i have a life outside of the swinging scene and would still have a life if it ended tomorrow, We do what we do because we BOTH enjoy it, She loves sex and i get a big kick out of knowing shes getting it and the day she thinks shes taking one for the Team is the day we stop. Gummy Gimp " | |||
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"There is 24 year between us There is also about 7/8 stones, much less head hair, far worse eyesight and in many peoples eyes probably a huge contrast altogether. BUT (and it's a big one), it works, FOR US, and that remains the salient point here. The passing thoughts and comments of others are of no consequence. Why it works ? Who knows. It just does. Why try and over analyse it ? It was an initial attraction and a meeting of bodies in which we experienced a meeting of minds, personality and circumstance. We are blessed. " I envy you your happiness. Dont let it slip away as I and so many others do | |||
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"There is 24 year between us There is also about 7/8 stones, much less head hair, far worse eyesight and in many peoples eyes probably a huge contrast altogether. BUT (and it's a big one), it works, FOR US, and that remains the salient point here. The passing thoughts and comments of others are of no consequence. Why it works ? Who knows. It just does. Why try and over analyse it ? It was an initial attraction and a meeting of bodies in which we experienced a meeting of minds, personality and circumstance. We are blessed. " Here here we have been together 25 years and as much in love now as we were when we first met we may not look like the perfect couple (but what is perfect) and to be honest who cares what others think we are perfect to us that's all that counts in my eyes | |||
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"It just means more women are having to take one for team lol " | |||
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"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful." I assure you I am not grateful for the attention of a younger person. I am, however, happy to accept the love of one person who just happens to be younger. | |||
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"I think what surprises me the most about this type of thread is that the originate on the idea of "conformity", yet this lifestyle we choose is non conformist. So surely, anyone with a degree of intelligence, beyond the superficial would understand their moronic question "why don't non-conformist, conform?" It is after all self explanatory. I apologise if this seems to be rude or derogatory, but that seems to be the "flavour" of this thread. .. " Totally agree with that | |||
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"I think that this question is like many others which involve the 'sexual self' There are 6 billion people on the planet and every single one of us looks at sex in our own unique way! With the advent of the internet, sex is now more than ever, used as a marketing tool and a sales tool! In the past it was used by religious zealots to extol and justify the sanctity of marriage (still is today) It was used to make us feel guilty and dirty by puritans who believed that mastuerbation, sex before marriage and passionate sex were all mortal sins!! It's still used today as an indicator of whether a woman is a 'slag' or a 'fridge' whether a man is as 'stud' or a 'wimp' etc ... all these mixed messages are fed to us by people trying to 'control' our attitudes towards sex and sexual practices! Why? Because they want you to behave in a certain way! Why? Because it fits you into their own 'demographic' which in turn makes you easier to peddle their wares to .. be that clothes, cars, hairstyles or religion! There will ALWAYS be someone on the outside to judge what you are doing within the physical side of a relationship (which is why 99% of swingers don't tell their friends and family) someone will always try to impart their conditioning or guilt or opinion on you! Ignore them! WE ARE SWINGERS! We are all unique, sexual adventurers that by our very nature are willing to fly in the face of convention and follow our sexual fantasies and desires! This age gap question, along with a myriad of other 'outside the norm' sexual practices will always provoke debate and discussion .. BUT! Lets just remember that there isn't many people on this site that will quite happily tell their family and friends about what they get up to ..why? ...... Because they will judge you! Make you feel like you are doing something wrong or something that requires very dubious morals ....but we all know different don't we? we are a little more enlightened around sexual activities, which is why we shouldn't be judging these couples! If you are going to swing with a couple, then surely it's down to whether you find them attractive! Pure and simple! The age as no relevance to anybody other than those looking to judge! I have personally played with all sorts of ages and if someone is sexy ... then they're sexy! I will also say that I haven't noticed a lot of couples with big age differences ... Perhaps the people that do are looking in a specific place or have narrow criteria .. who knows? but they may want to broaden their sights and see that people are sexy whatever age they are! " Totally agree with that, when we meet someone in a club we are really not bothered by their age, sure we have a preferance but if we get on with someone we are not bothered if they are 18 or 80. Reality is though it doesn't matter if you out in the real world or in the swinging one there are always people who will want to judge and discriminate. | |||
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"I think that this question is like many others which involve the 'sexual self' There are 6 billion people on the planet and every single one of us looks at sex in our own unique way! With the advent of the internet, sex is now more than ever, used as a marketing tool and a sales tool! In the past it was used by religious zealots to extol and justify the sanctity of marriage (still is today) It was used to make us feel guilty and dirty by puritans who believed that mastuerbation, sex before marriage and passionate sex were all mortal sins!! It's still used today as an indicator of whether a woman is a 'slag' or a 'fridge' whether a man is as 'stud' or a 'wimp' etc ... all these mixed messages are fed to us by people trying to 'control' our attitudes towards sex and sexual practices! Why? Because they want you to behave in a certain way! Why? Because it fits you into their own 'demographic' which in turn makes you easier to peddle their wares to .. be that clothes, cars, hairstyles or religion! There will ALWAYS be someone on the outside to judge what you are doing within the physical side of a relationship (which is why 99% of swingers don't tell their friends and family) someone will always try to impart their conditioning or guilt or opinion on you! Ignore them! WE ARE SWINGERS! We are all unique, sexual adventurers that by our very nature are willing to fly in the face of convention and follow our sexual fantasies and desires! This age gap question, along with a myriad of other 'outside the norm' sexual practices will always provoke debate and discussion .. BUT! Lets just remember that there isn't many people on this site that will quite happily tell their family and friends about what they get up to ..why? ...... Because they will judge you! Make you feel like you are doing something wrong or something that requires very dubious morals ....but we all know different don't we? we are a little more enlightened around sexual activities, which is why we shouldn't be judging these couples! If you are going to swing with a couple, then surely it's down to whether you find them attractive! Pure and simple! The age as no relevance to anybody other than those looking to judge! I have personally played with all sorts of ages and if someone is sexy ... then they're sexy! I will also say that I haven't noticed a lot of couples with big age differences ... Perhaps the people that do are looking in a specific place or have narrow criteria .. who knows? but they may want to broaden their sights and see that people are sexy whatever age they are! --------------------------------------- Totally agree with that, when we meet someone in a club we are really not bothered by their age, sure we have a preference but if we get on with someone we are not bothered if they are 18 or 80. Reality is though it doesn't matter if you out in the real world or in the swinging one there are always people who will want to judge and discriminate." ---------------------------------------- And here lies the true problem! Its not about the couple with the age difference, its about the rest of us that judge them! We should all take a moment before judging someone based on their sexual preferences and actually remember that your 'judgement' is more a reflection of your attitude than anything else! | |||
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"I think that this question is like many others which involve the 'sexual self' There are 6 billion people on the planet and every single one of us looks at sex in our own unique way! With the advent of the internet, sex is now more than ever, used as a marketing tool and a sales tool! In the past it was used by religious zealots to extol and justify the sanctity of marriage (still is today) It was used to make us feel guilty and dirty by puritans who believed that mastuerbation, sex before marriage and passionate sex were all mortal sins!! It's still used today as an indicator of whether a woman is a 'slag' or a 'fridge' whether a man is as 'stud' or a 'wimp' etc ... all these mixed messages are fed to us by people trying to 'control' our attitudes towards sex and sexual practices! Why? Because they want you to behave in a certain way! Why? Because it fits you into their own 'demographic' which in turn makes you easier to peddle their wares to .. be that clothes, cars, hairstyles or religion! There will ALWAYS be someone on the outside to judge what you are doing within the physical side of a relationship (which is why 99% of swingers don't tell their friends and family) someone will always try to impart their conditioning or guilt or opinion on you! Ignore them! WE ARE SWINGERS! We are all unique, sexual adventurers that by our very nature are willing to fly in the face of convention and follow our sexual fantasies and desires! This age gap question, along with a myriad of other 'outside the norm' sexual practices will always provoke debate and discussion .. BUT! Lets just remember that there isn't many people on this site that will quite happily tell their family and friends about what they get up to ..why? ...... Because they will judge you! Make you feel like you are doing something wrong or something that requires very dubious morals ....but we all know different don't we? we are a little more enlightened around sexual activities, which is why we shouldn't be judging these couples! If you are going to swing with a couple, then surely it's down to whether you find them attractive! Pure and simple! The age as no relevance to anybody other than those looking to judge! I have personally played with all sorts of ages and if someone is sexy ... then they're sexy! I will also say that I haven't noticed a lot of couples with big age differences ... Perhaps the people that do are looking in a specific place or have narrow criteria .. who knows? but they may want to broaden their sights and see that people are sexy whatever age they are! --------------------------------------- Totally agree with that, when we meet someone in a club we are really not bothered by their age, sure we have a preference but if we get on with someone we are not bothered if they are 18 or 80. Reality is though it doesn't matter if you out in the real world or in the swinging one there are always people who will want to judge and discriminate. ---------------------------------------- And here lies the true problem! Its not about the couple with the age difference, its about the rest of us that judge them! We should all take a moment before judging someone based on their sexual preferences and actually remember that your 'judgement' is more a reflection of your attitude than anything else! " We are all entitled to think what we like though, just because others don't like it doesn't mean we are wrong. | |||
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"I think that this question is like many others which involve the 'sexual self' There are 6 billion people on the planet and every single one of us looks at sex in our own unique way! With the advent of the internet, sex is now more than ever, used as a marketing tool and a sales tool! In the past it was used by religious zealots to extol and justify the sanctity of marriage (still is today) It was used to make us feel guilty and dirty by puritans who believed that mastuerbation, sex before marriage and passionate sex were all mortal sins!! It's still used today as an indicator of whether a woman is a 'slag' or a 'fridge' whether a man is as 'stud' or a 'wimp' etc ... all these mixed messages are fed to us by people trying to 'control' our attitudes towards sex and sexual practices! Why? Because they want you to behave in a certain way! Why? Because it fits you into their own 'demographic' which in turn makes you easier to peddle their wares to .. be that clothes, cars, hairstyles or religion! There will ALWAYS be someone on the outside to judge what you are doing within the physical side of a relationship (which is why 99% of swingers don't tell their friends and family) someone will always try to impart their conditioning or guilt or opinion on you! Ignore them! WE ARE SWINGERS! We are all unique, sexual adventurers that by our very nature are willing to fly in the face of convention and follow our sexual fantasies and desires! This age gap question, along with a myriad of other 'outside the norm' sexual practices will always provoke debate and discussion .. BUT! Lets just remember that there isn't many people on this site that will quite happily tell their family and friends about what they get up to ..why? ...... Because they will judge you! Make you feel like you are doing something wrong or something that requires very dubious morals ....but we all know different don't we? we are a little more enlightened around sexual activities, which is why we shouldn't be judging these couples! If you are going to swing with a couple, then surely it's down to whether you find them attractive! Pure and simple! The age as no relevance to anybody other than those looking to judge! I have personally played with all sorts of ages and if someone is sexy ... then they're sexy! I will also say that I haven't noticed a lot of couples with big age differences ... Perhaps the people that do are looking in a specific place or have narrow criteria .. who knows? but they may want to broaden their sights and see that people are sexy whatever age they are! --------------------------------------- Totally agree with that, when we meet someone in a club we are really not bothered by their age, sure we have a preference but if we get on with someone we are not bothered if they are 18 or 80. Reality is though it doesn't matter if you out in the real world or in the swinging one there are always people who will want to judge and discriminate. ---------------------------------------- And here lies the true problem! Its not about the couple with the age difference, its about the rest of us that judge them! We should all take a moment before judging someone based on their sexual preferences and actually remember that your 'judgement' is more a reflection of your attitude than anything else! We are all entitled to think what we like though, just because others don't like it doesn't mean we are wrong." ---------------------------------------- There is no right and wrong! It's a question of semantics and ultimately a persons moral compass! Personally I prefer to see people as being happy and content human beings first, rather than make a judgement based on superficial differences that effect no one except the person making them! | |||
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"One thing we find more and more often, both on the site and in clubs,is that most couples on here have a massive age difference. It's usually a younger girl with a far, far older guy. That's not a huge problem of courses, it just makes it very odd... It's something I've never understood. We get requests from amazingly sexy twenty year olds who have a 50 year old partner? Is this common to other people too? Is there a reason or this? Another thing we see is that a lot of couples just quite simply do not match! Sexy woman with mess of a man!! It's always awkward to be out and get chatted to by them and think "yeah she's heaven but you... Ugh... UGH!". It just doesn't compute! Of course love knows no bounds but when she looks like a model and he has no teeth... Boggles our minds! So how come, in this lifestyle, this is so common do you think? We have no problem with these people, at all, but it can't be just is that's seen this? C xx" Opposites attract.... I like younger men and women. | |||
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"On a sexual level I think the older man/younger woman and older woman/younger man relationships make sense. I've yet to meet a guy of around my age who can match my sex drive now I'm older and so I've started to be more open to younger guys on here. But whether a relationship with a younger guy would work on every other level, I'm not so sure." ---------------------------------------- Good point! You, along with all the other people that prefer the older/younger relationship, each have your reasons! It's no one else's concern to try and second guess them! In this lifestyle, if you appear as a couple then you should be appraised as a couple! If one part of a couple doesn't appeal then move along Who IS sure about any relationship working? It's always a leap of faith! | |||
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"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful." Speechless!!!! | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older." Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds! | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!" Have heard others say the same though. | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds! Have heard others say the same though." Well what is it that must be wrong with them, examples please we are all ears here! | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds! Have heard others say the same though. Well what is it that must be wrong with them, examples please we are all ears here!" could be anything. | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds!" Cor that's quite a rude way of telling someone you don't agree with what they're saying. | |||
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"So based on that supposition someone could think there was something wrong with a single person on the swinging scene. But we don't think that way it's all about open mindedness and acceptance and that's where we along with others stand." ---------------------------------------- Well said! Thats the reason we only meet people such as yourselves! A genuine, natural and honest couple equals a sexy, relaxed and candid couple! and that's the type of people we want to meet! | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds! Cor that's quite a rude way of telling someone you don't agree with what they're saying." ---------------------------------------- Well to be fair, you don't expect to find that kind of ignorance on a site like this, but as Buddha once said 'be not afraid of casting pearls before swine' | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds! Cor that's quite a rude way of telling someone you don't agree with what they're saying. ---------------------------------------- Well to be fair, you don't expect to find that kind of ignorance on a site like this, but as Buddha once said 'be not afraid of casting pearls before swine' " Its only ignorant because you don't agree with it. | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds! Cor that's quite a rude way of telling someone you don't agree with what they're saying. ---------------------------------------- Well to be fair, you don't expect to find that kind of ignorance on a site like this, but as Buddha once said 'be not afraid of casting pearls before swine' " Stick around and prepare to be amazed! | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds! Cor that's quite a rude way of telling someone you don't agree with what they're saying. ---------------------------------------- Well to be fair, you don't expect to find that kind of ignorance on a site like this, but as Buddha once said 'be not afraid of casting pearls before swine' Stick around and prepare to be amazed! " Yes indeed. | |||
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"There is 24 year between us There is also about 7/8 stones, much less head hair, far worse eyesight and in many peoples eyes probably a huge contrast altogether. BUT (and it's a big one), it works, FOR US, and that remains the salient point here. The passing thoughts and comments of others are of no consequence. Why it works ? Who knows. It just does. Why try and over analyse it ? It was an initial attraction and a meeting of bodies in which we experienced a meeting of minds, personality and circumstance. We are blessed. " exactly this! | |||
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"Me & Kim get turned down by couples because we are 50+ so there are barriers but we dont lose sleep. In the adult industry there are lots of couples with big ages differences so we are used to this, I prefer to work with ladies 40+ but if i'm paid to work with a 20yr old I will as its work. Even though my preference is for mature ladies I work with varying ages so if I was single who knows as I could be one of these old farts myself lol. People fall in love with a persons personality and looks sometimes go out the window because we all think our partners are sexy and attractive as we see whats inside." | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds! Cor that's quite a rude way of telling someone you don't agree with what they're saying. ---------------------------------------- Well to be fair, you don't expect to find that kind of ignorance on a site like this, but as Buddha once said 'be not afraid of casting pearls before swine' Its only ignorant because you don't agree with it." It's ignorance because it's ignorance! ... my views whether I agree or not does nor alter the fact that the statement that 'there must be something wrong with them' only contains conjecture, supposition and Ignorance! And i'm afraid your statement 'Its only ignorant because you don't agree with it' is quite frankly ignorant !!! | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds! Have heard others say the same though." An intelligent theory behind your assumption then!! Just for the record, Sam is 22 years younger than me, beautiful, incredibly intelligent and a perfectly well rounded and warm human being ...... In our 4 years together the only thing I have found 'wrong' with her is her inability to use a hoover!!!! | |||
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"I think it is other peoples buisness who they choose to be with. If you look in and think " oh they don't suit" that is your opinion, not the couples, and that is all that matters. Her" Yep! I have friends with age gaps from 25 years to no gap at all and the age difference is no indicator of success of the relationship. | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older." really?? Can assure you there is nothing " wrong" with my partner lol ... Or is it different if the woman is older? Or the age gap between the two ... when being judged? What is acceptable then? | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. Wow, your ignorance knows no bounds! Have heard others say the same though. An intelligent theory behind your assumption then!! Just for the record, Sam is 22 years younger than me, beautiful, incredibly intelligent and a perfectly well rounded and warm human being ...... In our 4 years together the only thing I have found 'wrong' with her is her inability to use a hoover!!!! " pmsl i know how to use a hoover but it would be pointless showing her as she is missing attachments that are needed m8 lol | |||
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"most of the time its because the man has got more money or is more generous than a younger guy." Well if that's the reason he's here, he backed the wrong horse pickin me | |||
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"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience? Just an observation, I am very observant. must be true then! " probably is quite a lot of the time. | |||
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"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience? Just an observation, I am very observant. I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !! " it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things. | |||
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"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience? Just an observation, I am very observant. I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !! it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things." It doesn't take a genius to just make up an opinion with no evidence to back it up, you're right. Being with an older man doesn't automatically indicate lack of self esteem. Why on earth would it? Lots of women find older men appealing. You're being incredibly judgmental in assuming older men can't possibly be attractive, just like the OP. | |||
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"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience? Just an observation, I am very observant. I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !! it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things. as I am also very observant in certain matters and do I detect a slight streak of racism in yourself mrs carlsberg ?" er, don't you mean ageism. | |||
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"most of the time its because the man has got more money or is more generous than a younger guy." That is a sweeping generalisation and a bit unfair. | |||
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"its like people on here are always saying though people aren't any different to anyone else, they still judge others for one reason or another." Everyone judges. It's funny when people can't admit they judge... or think it's ok when they do but it's so terrible when other people do it. | |||
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"I think it is other peoples buisness who they choose to be with. If you look in and think " oh they don't suit" that is your opinion, not the couples, and that is all that matters. Her Yep! I have friends with age gaps from 25 years to no gap at all and the age difference is no indicator of success of the relationship. " That is it, if they are happy, that is all that matters. Her | |||
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"its like people on here are always saying though people aren't any different to anyone else, they still judge others for one reason or another. Everyone judges. It's funny when people can't admit they judge... or think it's ok when they do but it's so terrible when other people do it. " | |||
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"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience? Just an observation, I am very observant. I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !! it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things. as I am also very observant in certain matters and do I detect a slight streak of racism in yourself mrs carlsberg ? er, don't you mean ageism." err,no racism was the right word as i "observed" on your profile it says no blacks or asians ? now I could go down the same road and use the "it dont take a genious to work it out,and most dont like to acknowledge it" arguments you have been using on this thread about age differences but I wont I will just leave it there ok him | |||
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"Wher do I find me one of these hot 20 yr olds then ? I am a 'mess' of an older guy girls...come get me " pmsl | |||
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"ok so this is the shallow end of the pool! as it seems that this is just about Young girls being with older guys who are in "your" opinion not fit to date the girl in the profile right????..... OOOOKKKKKKAAAAYYYYY.... just move on if you dont like all that you see. some couples may find this thread really offensive as we do as nobody owes anyone on here an explanation for their choice of partners... with that said, i think its time for a sharp exit " | |||
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"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience? Just an observation, I am very observant. I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !! it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things. as I am also very observant in certain matters and do I detect a slight streak of racism in yourself mrs carlsberg ? er, don't you mean ageism. err,no racism was the right word as i "observed" on your profile it says no blacks or asians ? now I could go down the same road and use the "it dont take a genious to work it out,and most dont like to acknowledge it" arguments you have been using on this thread about age differences but I wont I will just leave it there ok him" | |||
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"ok so this is the shallow end of the pool! as it seems that this is just about Young girls being with older guys who are in "your" opinion not fit to date the girl in the profile right????..... OOOOKKKKKKAAAAYYYYY.... just move on if you dont like all that you see. some couples may find this thread really offensive as we do as nobody owes anyone on here an explanation for their choice of partners... with that said, i think its time for a sharp exit " well said | |||
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"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience? Just an observation, I am very observant. I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !! it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things. as I am also very observant in certain matters and do I detect a slight streak of racism in yourself mrs carlsberg ? er, don't you mean ageism. err,no racism was the right word as i "observed" on your profile it says no blacks or asians ? now I could go down the same road and use the "it dont take a genious to work it out,and most dont like to acknowledge it" arguments you have been using on this thread about age differences but I wont I will just leave it there ok him" The last message I got was from a black man and he was rude so I thought I would just put no black or Asian men seeing as a lot of others do and as I have mentioned before our neighbours aren't used to seeing foreign people although I have met a couple of black men before. make of it what you will. | |||
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"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience? Just an observation, I am very observant. I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !! it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things. as I am also very observant in certain matters and do I detect a slight streak of racism in yourself mrs carlsberg ? er, don't you mean ageism. err,no racism was the right word as i "observed" on your profile it says no blacks or asians ? now I could go down the same road and use the "it dont take a genious to work it out,and most dont like to acknowledge it" arguments you have been using on this thread about age differences but I wont I will just leave it there ok him The last message I got was from a black man and he was rude so I thought I would just put no black or Asian men seeing as a lot of others do and as I have mentioned before our neighbours aren't used to seeing foreign people although I have met a couple of black men before. make of it what you will." so why haven't you got no whites either ? because I KNOW for a fact you will of received rude messages from them to . I am not judging you or actually accusing you of being a racist hun I am just showing you that "observing" does not give you an accurate picture. | |||
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"ok so this is the shallow end of the pool! as it seems that this is just about Young girls being with older guys who are in "your" opinion not fit to date the girl in the profile right????..... OOOOKKKKKKAAAAYYYYY.... just move on if you dont like all that you see. some couples may find this thread really offensive as we do as nobody owes anyone on here an explanation for their choice of partners... with that said, i think its time for a sharp exit " Very well said, thankyou | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. have you not said in the past that your husband is older than you? " Whats that got to do with it? | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. have you not said in the past that your husband is older than you? Whats that got to do with it?" well alot really seeing as you are judging others with your observations! Is why I asked you if you are talking from experience? | |||
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"when you see someone with a much younger partner you do tend to think there must be something wrong with them though, to be with someone so much older. have you not said in the past that your husband is older than you? Whats that got to do with it? well alot really seeing as you are judging others with your observations! Is why I asked you if you are talking from experience? " Yes probably. | |||
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"Ah so you would be the one with the low self esteem then, based on your logic and your words. " exactly this! Right I outta this thread now! | |||
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"Because it's a discussion forums sweetie, not a "let's all agree and nod chat room". The point is that everybody is different. I couldn't REALLY care any less. Same as any other person/people talk to me that I don't find attractive in that way. I just move along. But you can't help but see that, in this life style, it's common. We often hit Xtasia, and watch from the side lines when we get there. Usually it's "she's fit, he's really punching above his weight!" Or "she's fit, that guy can't be with her, he's twice her age!". Love knows no boundaries. I believe in that. But when your in a sexual relationship in a hobby/activity (swinging) that's mostly about sex, you have to ask why a 18 year old would be interested in a 55 year old man. It's just wrong. If course I he sits back and let's her do what she wants, then that tell you a totally different story about them. It just boggles my mind! I don't lose sleep over it, but like I said before, it's not one or two people, it's usually the majority from what we see when out, and that's really our "options" on who to swing with. We don't "take one for the team", because we are both partners in this. So why would I sleep with an old man who has money, just because he has a fit girl on his arm? I'm above that. C x" "You're above that"?! Young women with older guys is "just wrong"? | |||
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"Age is academic (within reason) if people find attraction in each other. Live and let live... " Yes it is and other people's relationships are their business unless abuse is taking place. | |||
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"Age is academic (within reason) if people find attraction in each other. Live and let live... Yes it is and other people's relationships are their business unless abuse is taking place. " | |||
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"Age is academic (within reason) if people find attraction in each other. Live and let live... Yes it is and other people's relationships are their business unless abuse is taking place. " yes it is but people also have a right to their opinion also. | |||
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"Age is academic (within reason) if people find attraction in each other. Live and let live... Yes it is and other people's relationships are their business unless abuse is taking place. yes it is but people also have a right to their opinion also." Yes they do and unless that opinion is offensive to someone they have a right to express it. However if an opinion might give offence it is sometimes worth considering Howe its expressed or even if it needs saying at all. The same goes when an opinion is challenged. | |||
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"Age is academic (within reason) if people find attraction in each other. Live and let live... Yes it is and other people's relationships are their business unless abuse is taking place. yes it is but people also have a right to their opinion also." Even about someone else's relationship when that person and their relationship is completely unknown to you?.... Really??? | |||
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"lot of young women who like much older men have very low self esteem and the older men treat them better because they are so grateful. are you talking from experience? Just an observation, I am very observant. I'd be quite interested in knowing what qualifies you to interpret your observations of someone else's relationship and come up with, they have low self esteem and that the men are just grateful! .... Have you studied psychology? been involved with research in to this? .... I am genuinely interested to know what your experience of these type of couples is !! it doesn't take a genious to work it out does it. just that some people don't like to acknowledge these things. It doesn't take a genius to just make up an opinion with no evidence to back it up, you're right. Being with an older man doesn't automatically indicate lack of self esteem. Why on earth would it? Lots of women find older men appealing. You're being incredibly judgmental in assuming older men can't possibly be attractive, just like the OP. " | |||
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"Where did I say I have an issue with old people? I have no issue, I dated a 40 year old man when I was 25. It's not an issue to me, it's just something I've noticed is more obvious in this area. What I was trying to say (later anyway) was more along the lines that we see the likes of Kelly Brook dating Albert Steptoe, and that's not just an age thing. Even worse when you see them treating the lady like shit, but they stick with them because they seem to be flashing their wallets, or so e other reason. We actually witnessed somebody a few weeks back get into a fight with their other half because they were about to go over and floor one older gent because of how nasty he was to people. I have never and will never mind an older person dating somebody younger. If it's legit, fair play. But there are limits when they are just there for money or what have you. But going back to my original point, was that in this area, it's more prevalent, which is quite strange. I know G fancies older women, and I do as well, but there's a difference between a milf and a nasty, controlling Albert Steptoe.... And sadly that's a type we've seen far too much. C x" It is probably more noticeable in a club environment than on the street. We have been mistaken for father & son on more than one occasion and are both happy with other people drawing that conclusion. Only in the relative 'safety' of certain scenes / clubs do we readily express the fact we are together Not because we are ashamed, not because we are afraid but purely because we feel within the confines of those environments it is easier to be affectionate and sexual with each other without aghast looks, judgement or finger pointing. From some of the posts here, we are naive to believe this to be the case. As I intimated in an earlier thread, it works for us which remains the salient point and the opinions of others are of little or no consequence. That said, we recognise that many people in the general public would be uncomfortable with us being together and, out of a respect for that and having no wish to 'rub peoples noses in it', we choose to only be 'close' in environments where it is appropriate for us to be and amongst people that are a little more forwardly thinking. At least in theory. | |||
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"Where did I say I have an issue with old people? I have no issue, I dated a 40 year old man when I was 25. It's not an issue to me, it's just something I've noticed is more obvious in this area. What I was trying to say (later anyway) was more along the lines that we see the likes of Kelly Brook dating Albert Steptoe, and that's not just an age thing. Even worse when you see them treating the lady like shit, but they stick with them because they seem to be flashing their wallets, or so e other reason. We actually witnessed somebody a few weeks back get into a fight with their other half because they were about to go over and floor one older gent because of how nasty he was to people. I have never and will never mind an older person dating somebody younger. If it's legit, fair play. But there are limits when they are just there for money or what have you. But going back to my original point, was that in this area, it's more prevalent, which is quite strange. I know G fancies older women, and I do as well, but there's a difference between a milf and a nasty, controlling Albert Steptoe.... And sadly that's a type we've seen far too much. C x" | |||
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"The huge age gap is not something we have noticed. Most have had a gap of 5-10 years at the most, which is nothing. As for not being evenly matched...Maybe that's what they find attractive, not everyone likes the same look/type. Or maybe they just loved their personality and company. Not everything is about looks. Well said " | |||
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"Because it's a discussion forums sweetie, not a "let's all agree and nod chat room". The point is that everybody is different. I couldn't REALLY care any less. Same as any other person/people talk to me that I don't find attractive in that way. I just move along. But you can't help but see that, in this life style, it's common. We often hit Xtasia, and watch from the side lines when we get there. Usually it's "she's fit, he's really punching above his weight!" Or "she's fit, that guy can't be with her, he's twice her age!". Love knows no boundaries. I believe in that. But when your in a sexual relationship in a hobby/activity (swinging) that's mostly about sex, you have to ask why a 18 year old would be interested in a 55 year old man. It's just wrong. If course I he sits back and let's her do what she wants, then that tell you a totally different story about them. It just boggles my mind! I don't lose sleep over it, but like I said before, it's not one or two people, it's usually the majority from what we see when out, and that's really our "options" on who to swing with. We don't "take one for the team", because we are both partners in this. So why would I sleep with an old man who has money, just because he has a fit girl on his arm? I'm above that. C x" Just wondering who do you actualy think you are to say that two consenting adults is " Just Wrong" | |||
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"Because it's a discussion forums sweetie, not a "let's all agree and nod chat room". The point is that everybody is different. I couldn't REALLY care any less. Same as any other person/people talk to me that I don't find attractive in that way. I just move along. But you can't help but see that, in this life style, it's common. We often hit Xtasia, and watch from the side lines when we get there. Usually it's "she's fit, he's really punching above his weight!" Or "she's fit, that guy can't be with her, he's twice her age!". Love knows no boundaries. I believe in that. But when your in a sexual relationship in a hobby/activity (swinging) that's mostly about sex, you have to ask why a 18 year old would be interested in a 55 year old man. It's just wrong. If course I he sits back and let's her do what she wants, then that tell you a totally different story about them. It just boggles my mind! I don't lose sleep over it, but like I said before, it's not one or two people, it's usually the majority from what we see when out, and that's really our "options" on who to swing with. We don't "take one for the team", because we are both partners in this. So why would I sleep with an old man who has money, just because he has a fit girl on his arm? I'm above that. C x" Just wondering who do you actualy think you are to say that two consenting adults is " Just Wrong" | |||
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"There is a surprising number of couples and fb's with big age gaps. It can be really nice when the two gel together nicely. Age is just a number and there are some very tidy older males and females. J" Well said !! | |||
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"Just wondering who do you actualy think you are to say that two consenting adults is " Just Wrong" " Me. That's who. And I have a right to my opinion just like everybody else. Deal with it. C x | |||
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"Where did I say I have an issue with old people? I have no issue, I dated a 40 year old man when I was 25. It's not an issue to me, it's just something I've noticed is more obvious in this area. What I was trying to say (later anyway) was more along the lines that we see the likes of Kelly Brook dating Albert Steptoe, and that's not just an age thing. Even worse when you see them treating the lady like shit, but they stick with them because they seem to be flashing their wallets, or so e other reason. We actually witnessed somebody a few weeks back get into a fight with their other half because they were about to go over and floor one older gent because of how nasty he was to people. I have never and will never mind an older person dating somebody younger. If it's legit, fair play. But there are limits when they are just there for money or what have you. But going back to my original point, was that in this area, it's more prevalent, which is quite strange. I know G fancies older women, and I do as well, but there's a difference between a milf and a nasty, controlling Albert Steptoe.... And sadly that's a type we've seen far too much. C x" Thanks for the clarification, certainly doesn't appear to be such an extreme view now, in fact I agree with much of your follow up | |||
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