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"For us part of swinging is to do with physical attraction. I think it is a pretty normal thing not to be attracted to some people and to have a type. I feel so bad though saying no once face pics have been swapped, has anyone any advice/ gentle let down lines/ experience? " we just block and run...just kidding... we usually say something along the lines of, "on reflection, you're not for us" or tell them that although we've enjoyed their company, any future meets will be on a purely social basis | |||
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"In theory it sounds so easy but people get really defensive and I guess offended!! (Gulp)" Sone do, after all, you're basically saying to them, I don't find you attractive, but part of the game here is dealing with rejection, I'm afraid. If they don't deal well with it from strangers they've never met off the internet, imagine how they'd deal with real life situations and see it as a lucky escape... | |||
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"In theory it sounds so easy but people get really defensive and I guess offended!! (Gulp)" Yes I've had someone have a go as he didn't feel judging not to meet based on his face picture was right at all ![]() | |||
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"In theory it sounds so easy but people get really defensive and I guess offended!! (Gulp) Yes I've had someone have a go as he didn't feel judging not to meet based on his face picture was right at all ![]() But in fairness physical attraction is kind of important . It would be worse meeting and knowing that you weren't attracted on the first place. | |||
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"you could always try the ooooooooo you really look like my hubbies best mate it would just be to weird for me xxxx" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Just be polite and thanks but not what we're looking for perhaps....? " thats the only way | |||
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"Say no then block them. 50% of the men you say no to will reply with something horrible. Fragile ego's are a terrible thing!" I've been lucky, only ever had one abusive response to a thanks but no thanks, any other responses have been along the lines of thanks for replying which I just read ![]() | |||
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"Say no then block them. 50% of the men you say no to will reply with something horrible. Fragile ego's are a terrible thing! I've been lucky, only ever had one abusive response to a thanks but no thanks, any other responses have been along the lines of thanks for replying which I just read ![]() I'm glad for you! Obviously the men who contact you aer far more secure in themselves! I replied no to someone esterday but had to answer the phone before i could block them. I returned to a "You're fat anyway, wouldn't want to meet you" Cool story bro, tell it again. ![]() | |||
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"For me attraction don't mean anything as its just a shag ![]() I'm sure the women who have met you from here will be happy to hear that... | |||
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"Say no then block them. 50% of the men you say no to will reply with something horrible. Fragile ego's are a terrible thing! I've been lucky, only ever had one abusive response to a thanks but no thanks, any other responses have been along the lines of thanks for replying which I just read ![]() ![]() Jesus Christ...if you're fat then I'm the size of a house! I should add that I ignore a lot of messages if they haven't read my profile - I'd maybe get more abuse if I said no thanks to those folk | |||
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"For me attraction don't mean anything as its just a shag ![]() Any hole's a goal. ![]() | |||
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"For me attraction don't mean anything as its just a shag ![]() Yes your right there lol | |||
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"For me attraction don't mean anything as its just a shag ![]() ![]() And yes it is, its about scoring brownie points ![]() | |||
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"For us part of swinging is to do with physical attraction. I think it is a pretty normal thing not to be attracted to some people and to have a type. I feel so bad though saying no once face pics have been swapped, has anyone any advice/ gentle let down lines/ experience? " It is best in our opinion to never justify or explain but to simply thank them and say you've discussed it and won't be taking things any further. If after that people ask for reasons we usually block because it can only lead to upset. | |||
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"The way I feel about this is that swinging is a small world and it's possible you might bump into them at a club or party... I don't like making enemies... and I can't really see, beyond obvious stuff like beer bellies and comb overs etc, how you can tell if there's gonna be any physical attraction from a photo. Having helped out at auditions for a film, it amazed me how some ordinary looking people would suddenly look so incredible when plonked in front of a camera whilst really hot people just looked average. Being photogenic or not is unlikely to be a good measure of whether you're really sexy in the flesh imo. So I'd really only be blunt with people who were clearly unsexy... what were they thinking? The rest, I'd probably give the benefit of the doubt if they lived near enough. If they didn't look very promising and lived more than an hours drive away I'd probably tell them the drive is too far. Of course Mrs Passion might have more to say on this issue... she's a bit more clear about what she does and doesn't like... me? I'm happy exploring at this point ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm not entirely sure I understand your logic there? Turning people down makes them into enemies? So if we turned you down it would make you so unhappy that we couldn't share the same space? We've been to parties and met people we've had on our block list and all had a laugh about it...Some ended up unblocked and some didn't...We like to meet and play with grown ups, not people who take rejection personally like this is some kind of school playground and anyone who did behave in that way, we'd have had a lucky escape from. Just tell them, you're not for us and don't enter into any further dialogue, it generally works really well for us and you don't have to get into making fictional excuses that will probably come back and bite you on the arse in just the situation you describe.. | |||
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"In theory it sounds so easy but people get really defensive and I guess offended!! (Gulp)" In that case the problem is entirely theirs. The normal rules.of social engagement just don't apply in a situation where you are likely to be having sex with someone. | |||
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"I think that we are all a bit insecure I don't t know that anyone looks in the mirror to think damn I look hot, well not guys anyway, it just feels like a confirmation of what we already think when you get rejected but it's wrong to send nasty messages to anyone. Best just to say your not my type and block they will soon forget you anyway! " But surely we can all acknowledge that we can't be attractive to everyone and that if someone rejects us it doesn't mean we're unattractive......can't we? | |||
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"We have found a simple "Sorry not for us but good luck on Fab" works 95% of the time. ![]() same for us and if the 5% want to spit their dummies out well "thats life" ![]() | |||
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"For us part of swinging is to do with physical attraction. I think it is a pretty normal thing not to be attracted to some people and to have a type. I feel so bad though saying no once face pics have been swapped, has anyone any advice/ gentle let down lines/ experience? we just block and run...just kidding... we usually say something along the lines of, "on reflection, you're not for us" or tell them that although we've enjoyed their company, any future meets will be on a purely social basis" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Always just say, sorry not for us~have fun Never once had a "why not?" Reply and never had a nasty one apart from a "your loss !!" Which I was itching to reply to but had been blocked Oh well, never mind, jog on ![]() We love the "your loss" reply. I can never work out why it would be our loss if we're not interested! I guess it makes them feel better. | |||
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"Always just say, sorry not for us~have fun Never once had a "why not?" Reply and never had a nasty one apart from a "your loss !!" Which I was itching to reply to but had been blocked Oh well, never mind, jog on ![]() I know ![]() | |||
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"I'm not entirely sure I understand your logic there? Turning people down makes them into enemies? So if we turned you down it would make you so unhappy that we couldn't share the same space?" Of course not ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I'm not entirely sure I understand your logic there? Turning people down makes them into enemies? So if we turned you down it would make you so unhappy that we couldn't share the same space" Just what I was thinking lol ![]() | |||
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"I'm not entirely sure I understand your logic there? Turning people down makes them into enemies? So if we turned you down it would make you so unhappy that we couldn't share the same space Just what I was thinking lol ![]() Err well you don't need to think about it any longer as I just replied to it in the post above yours lol ![]() | |||
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"I'm not entirely sure I understand your logic there? Turning people down makes them into enemies? So if we turned you down it would make you so unhappy that we couldn't share the same space? Of course not ![]() ![]() ![]() They're not saying you're ugly, they're saying that you're not for them, if you can't tell the difference, you're going to get very battered self esteem wise if you jump to that conclusion every time someone turns you down... | |||
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"They're not saying you're ugly, they're saying that you're not for them, if you can't tell the difference, you're going to get very battered self esteem wise if you jump to that conclusion every time someone turns you down..." So you're chatting to someone... you seem to be getting along well and you seem nice and compatible... then you send them a picture of you both and all of a sudden it's "thanks but no thanks". What exactly do you think has gone on there? ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I'm not entirely sure I understand your logic there? Turning people down makes them into enemies? So if we turned you down it would make you so unhappy that we couldn't share the same space Just what I was thinking lol ![]() ![]() lol I know you did, but you know, just wanted to get in there as well ![]() | |||
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"There is a big difference between finding someone "ugly" or simply not being attracted to them. I'm sure there are many people who aren't attracted sexually to others but don't necessarily find them ugly." As I said in my first post, if we found them nice looking but potentially not attractive then we might still meet them if they were near enough. If not we'd say they were too far away. We would only say "no thanks" to people we clearly weren't attracted to (or they looked like psychos). You can phrase it as nicely as you want but the raw fact is that we'd find the idea of having sex with them to be repulsive or disturbing. Saying that to someone is pretty brutal lol ![]() ![]() | |||
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"They're not saying you're ugly, they're saying that you're not for them, if you can't tell the difference, you're going to get very battered self esteem wise if you jump to that conclusion every time someone turns you down... So you're chatting to someone... you seem to be getting along well and you seem nice and compatible... then you send them a picture of you both and all of a sudden it's "thanks but no thanks". What exactly do you think has gone on there? ![]() ![]() ![]() Nope...We think they don't want to fuck us, nothing more, nothing less...that they are no longer sexually attracted to us...then we move on...we're not ugly but we're not everyone's cup of tea and it doesn't bother us in the slightest. If they tried building some elaborate excuse that sounded implausible, we'd just think they were being a bit wet to be honest and move on again. This is not a past time for the faint of heart or low of self esteem.. Put it this way. I am not sexually attracted to brad Pitt...do I therefore think he's ugly? Well he clearly isn't...would I fuck him given the chance? nope...he's a bit too bland for my taste... | |||
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"If they tried building some elaborate excuse that sounded implausible, we'd just think they were being a bit wet to be honest and move on again. This is not a past time for the faint of heart or low of self esteem." I take it by this that you're inferring we're these things ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Colin Farrell doesn't do it for me but my daughter loves him. I would say no thank you Colin I don't feel any sexual attraction for you. Have a tissue to cry into " Lol reminds me of the old Harry Enfield sketch. "Colin Farrell, nice bloke and all. But if he was to sidle up to me and say 'how about one behind the bike sheds?' I'd say 'OI!!! NO!!!! Colin Farrell you can keep your highly paid and highly desired cock in your pants. It might go down well with the ladies in Hollywood but it is highly inappropriate to pull it out in my local Spar'" ![]() | |||
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"In theory it sounds so easy but people get really defensive and I guess offended!! (Gulp)" If these people get offended then .. 1) they should not be here. 2) it proves you made the correct choice. | |||
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"Say no then block them. 50% of the men you say no to will reply with something horrible. Fragile ego's are a terrible thing!" If your one of these men then disappear. This site/lifestyle isn't for you and your spoiling it for everyone else you weak ass bitches. It's unlikely you have what it takes to provide for a woman anyway. | |||
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"If they tried building some elaborate excuse that sounded implausible, we'd just think they were being a bit wet to be honest and move on again. This is not a past time for the faint of heart or low of self esteem. I take it by this that you're inferring we're these things ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh dear, you're jumping to some pretty big conclusions there now sunshine...but clearly if you'd rather lie to people and be lied to, then that's fine...you conduct your swinging life in your way and we'll conduct ours in ours...We don't try to upset people but we'd rather be clear from the start, it saves time and hurt feelings in the long run, from our experience... | |||
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"Colin Farrell doesn't do it for me but my daughter loves him. I would say no thank you Colin I don't feel any sexual attraction for you. Have a tissue to cry into " He did it for me climbing out of that pond dripping wet in P and P but otherwise I'm not interested. | |||
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"Colin Farrell doesn't do it for me but my daughter loves him. I would say no thank you Colin I don't feel any sexual attraction for you. Have a tissue to cry into He did it for me climbing out of that pond dripping wet in P and P but otherwise I'm not interested. " Psst...wrong Colin, sweetie... ![]() | |||
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" ...We don't try to upset people but we'd rather be clear from the start, it saves time and hurt feelings in the long run, from our experience..." Our experience bears that out too. Tactful truth in all things is the only way forward. | |||
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"Oh dear, you're jumping to some pretty big conclusions there now sunshine..." My apologies but I was only reading what you had written which was... "If they tried building some elaborate excuse that sounded implausible, we'd just think they were being a bit wet to be honest and move on again. This is not a past time for the faint of heart or low of self esteem." That definitely sounded like you were saying that someone who came up with excuses would be seen by you as wet. To be honest I'm not too sure where the whole 'faint of heart' and 'low of self esteem' comment comes from... it didn't really seem to have anything to do with the debate at hand ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Colin Farrell doesn't do it for me but my daughter loves him. I would say no thank you Colin I don't feel any sexual attraction for you. Have a tissue to cry into He did it for me climbing out of that pond dripping wet in P and P but otherwise I'm not interested. Psst...wrong Colin, sweetie... ![]() Bugger! So it is. I'm not sure what this other one looks like ![]() | |||
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"Say no then block them. 50% of the men you say no to will reply with something horrible. Fragile ego's are a terrible thing! If your one of these men then disappear. This site/lifestyle isn't for you and your spoiling it for everyone else you weak ass bitches. It's unlikely you have what it takes to provide for a woman anyway. " Well said! Sad some have to be abusive, these are probably the same people who moan that no one replies!! We always like to thank people who are abusive, thank them for confirming our decision not to meet was the correct one. If someone offered to buy you a drink and you politely declined, I wonder if you'd have abuse thrown at you??! Probably not but it seems its done on here a lot. | |||
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"Oh dear, you're jumping to some pretty big conclusions there now sunshine... My apologies but I was only reading what you had written which was... If they tried building some elaborate excuse that sounded implausible, we'd just think they were being a bit wet to be honest and move on again. This is not a past time for the faint of heart or low of self esteem. That definitely sounded like you were saying that someone who came up with excuses would be seen by you as wet. To be honest I'm not too sure where the whole 'faint of heart' and 'low of self esteem' comment comes from... it didn't really seem to have anything to do with the debate at hand ![]() ![]() I haven't accused you of anything...but suggested that working out the difference between someone not wanting to meet and someone finding you ugly may save you some issues with rejection in the future... | |||
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"I haven't accused you of anything...but suggested that working out the difference between someone not wanting to meet and someone finding you ugly may save you some issues with rejection in the future..." cool ![]() | |||
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"Say no then block them. 50% of the men you say no to will reply with something horrible. Fragile ego's are a terrible thing! I've been lucky, only ever had one abusive response to a thanks but no thanks, any other responses have been along the lines of thanks for replying which I just read ![]() ![]() "You are Fat????" You are lovely! He must be one of the few men turned on by pictures from Auchvitz! ![]() | |||
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"There is a big difference between finding someone "ugly" or simply not being attracted to them. I'm sure there are many people who aren't attracted sexually to others but don't necessarily find them ugly." Exactly so, I find the leap that many people make very strange. I would call few people ugly to be honest, it's a fairly ugly word to use. I am someone who doesn't find myself attracted to that many people, even people who the majority might consider good looking sometimes. Saying 'I am sorry, not for me' or 'not my type' makes no such judgement in my case, its just an honest answer. | |||
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"I usually say something tactful along the lines of "Oh my God, what a minger, I wouldn't touch you with a barge pole if my life depended on it and I'd been infected with a bug that made me permanently horny...please crawl back into whatever slimy hole you dragged yourself out of" . ." I get that one a lot hahaha ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Say no then block them. 50% of the men you say no to will reply with something horrible. Fragile ego's are a terrible thing! If your one of these men then disappear. This site/lifestyle isn't for you and your spoiling it for everyone else you weak ass bitches. It's unlikely you have what it takes to provide for a woman anyway. " I didn't think they could reply if they have been blocked so it is hard to work out where the 50% statistic comes from. | |||
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"Thanks but no thanks or Not for me at this time " It really is that simple isn't it. I know someone who in real life has difficulty saying no to invitations, they start to make up all sorts of excuses and in the long run actually cause more upset than if they had just said simply and politely "no thank you I'm busy". As I said before if people have difficulty accepting that a polite refusal is not a personal insult, a reflection on their good name or means that they are ugly the problem is entirely theirs. I think low self esteem is in part caused by people's inability to say no nicely and the need to constantly dress things up in order to appear nice the result is that when people encounter genuinely polite honesty they can't take it. | |||
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"Thanks but no thanks or Not for me at this time It really is that simple isn't it. I know someone who in real life has difficulty saying no to invitations, they start to make up all sorts of excuses and in the long run actually cause more upset than if they had just said simply and politely "no thank you I'm busy". As I said before if people have difficulty accepting that a polite refusal is not a personal insult, a reflection on their good name or means that they are ugly the problem is entirely theirs. I think low self esteem is in part caused by people's inability to say no nicely and the need to constantly dress things up in order to appear nice the result is that when people encounter genuinely polite honesty they can't take it. " Thank you...exactly what I was trying to say but put much more succinctly... ![]() | |||
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"I think low self esteem is in part caused by people's inability to say no nicely and the need to constantly dress things up in order to appear nice the result is that when people encounter genuinely polite honesty they can't take it." I don't think that sentence even reads let alone makes any sense. People with low self esteem try to make things sound nice when they're trying to say no and when they get a simple polite no in return they can't take it? That's just such a convoluted statement I can't see it relating to anything but a very few overly delicate people. It's like trying to string the words 'low self esteem' 'saying no nicely' and 'take rejection badly' into some kind of logical argument that sticks. I guess the thing about this thread is that some people are talking about saying no after a first message... we don't bother with that.. we just ignore and delete. Other people are talking about saying no after a rude message... we don't bother with that we delete and block. So the only kind of no we're talking about is that message you send after you've chatted for a bit and then see their photo and realise you're not attracted to them. That's why the focus of my input on this thread has been about trying to say no without making it obvious that you don't find them attractive. My suggestion was that receiving a "no you're ugly" and a "no thanks", after seeing the photo, add up to almost the same thing. We saw thaie photo and didn't like what we saw. I'll concede that the latter is better than the former. Indeed it can be done very politely, perhaps wishing them luck, and is the approach I've taken up to now. But as I don't usually make it my business to go round commenting on people's looks, I just liked Shocksandmissus suggestion as a way of giving someone a simple, understandable, unconvoluted, excuse rather than giving them cause to feel crap about themselves. The thing that seems to have emerged is that others read a lot more into their rejections than we do. Some of you seem to have pretty low opinions of people who make excuses. Which is a shame... as their excuses may be absolutely real and valid. In the end a no is a no. Who cares why? It can be said rudely and nastily. Or it can be said politely. In that regard we're all in agreement as to which we'd rather do ![]() | |||
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"I think low self esteem is in part caused by people's inability to say no nicely and the need to constantly dress things up in order to appear nice the result is that when people encounter genuinely polite honesty they can't take it. I don't think that sentence even reads let alone makes any sense. People with low self esteem try to make things sound nice when they're trying to say no and when they get a simple polite no in return they can't take it? That's just such a convoluted statement I can't see it relating to anything but a very few overly delicate people. It's like trying to string the words 'low self esteem' 'saying no nicely' and 'take rejection badly' into some kind of logical argument that sticks. " That would be because you've misunderstood my meaning. | |||
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"A simple sorry your not our type or not into the same things will suffice, it's not all about physical attraction from pictures for us, it's about the chat and a connection, if someone asks us for face pics as am opening gambit, kind of puts me off, I know time is short etc but I would rather play with a not so good looking couple who are lovely people than a stunning couple who had no personality or ugly on the inside. So only rarely do I base my decision to say no on pics x Helen" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I thought this was a site for adults. I am amazed that some 'adults' are so afraid of saying "no thank you" they would rather just ignore or block. It's a bit pathetic really. " But people are like that in real life too, they will go out of their way to avoid saying no to people. Is it a British thing? | |||
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"I thought this was a site for adults. I am amazed that some 'adults' are so afraid of saying "no thank you" they would rather just ignore or block. It's a bit pathetic really. But people are like that in real life too, they will go out of their way to avoid saying no to people. Is it a British thing? " True. Could be. | |||
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"They're not saying you're ugly, they're saying that you're not for them, if you can't tell the difference, you're going to get very battered self esteem wise if you jump to that conclusion every time someone turns you down... So you're chatting to someone... you seem to be getting along well and you seem nice and compatible... then you send them a picture of you both and all of a sudden it's "thanks but no thanks". What exactly do you think has gone on there? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"For me attraction don't mean anything as its just a shag ![]() Maybe we should just lie there then if its just a shag.......lol | |||
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"I thought this was a site for adults. I am amazed that some 'adults' are so afraid of saying "no thank you" they would rather just ignore or block. It's a bit pathetic really. " I'm not too sure if you're referring to my remarks about blocking someone who sends an abusive post... I'm guessing not ![]() ![]() | |||
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"if I can say No at job inter_iews, No to time off for people, No to my family at times... I can say No to strangers for sex at the blink of an eye" The title of the thread is about how you say no... not whether you can say no. Nobody on here is lacking the balls to say no so you're not gonna win any medals there lol ![]() ![]() | |||
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"if I can say No at job inter_iews, No to time off for people, No to my family at times... I can say No to strangers for sex at the blink of an eye The title of the thread is about how you say no... not whether you can say no. Nobody on here is lacking the balls to say no so you're not gonna win any medals there lol ![]() ![]() I think you will find ' a few do struggle to say no'... people have said they have gone through with meets rather than say no... easy.. no thanks, I am not attracted to you.. I wish you well. | |||
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"if I can say No at job inter_iews, No to time off for people, No to my family at times... I can say No to strangers for sex at the blink of an eye The title of the thread is about how you say no... not whether you can say no. Nobody on here is lacking the balls to say no so you're not gonna win any medals there lol ![]() ![]() Yes I have read with horror tales of people usually women who have had.sex with people they aren't attracted to because they don't like to say no or because when they have made an excuse the person has questioned it. This is one of the reasons I believe that a straight no thank you without embellishment should be the accepted norm. | |||
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"if I can say No at job inter_iews, No to time off for people, No to my family at times... I can say No to strangers for sex at the blink of an eye The title of the thread is about how you say no... not whether you can say no. Nobody on here is lacking the balls to say no so you're not gonna win any medals there lol ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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