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"too many people on here take sex, and themselves much too seriously. I don't want to meet people like that." | |||
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"too many people on here take sex, and themselves much too seriously. I don't want to meet people like that." I agree entirely. | |||
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"too many people on here take sex, and themselves much too seriously. I don't want to meet people like that. I agree entirely. " The more fun it is the more you enjoy it | |||
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"too many people on here take sex, and themselves much too seriously. I don't want to meet people like that. I can't think of anything worse than having sex with someone with no sense of humour,the atmosphere would bore me to death before the sex even began " | |||
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"For me sex is about passion. Naughtiest. Being promiscuous. Calling it fun or playing degrades it." ????? Sounds like someone is over thinking it? The whole site is here for like minded people to enjoy each other socially and sexually ? Without fun ! Surely there would be no attraction therefore no sex ? Unless your just here to collect notches then move on not really worrying about wether the other party/parties actually enjoyed the meet ? I don't know if this is a simplistic way of looking at this site but I have had fun without having sex but know that when I do have that pleasure there will be fun had by both parties ! | |||
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"For me sex is about passion. Naughtiest. Being promiscuous. Calling it fun or playing degrades it. ????? Sounds like someone is over thinking it? The whole site is here for like minded people to enjoy each other socially and sexually ? Without fun ! Surely there would be no attraction therefore no sex ? Unless your just here to collect notches then move on not really worrying about wether the other party/parties actually enjoyed the meet ? I don't know if this is a simplistic way of looking at this site but I have had fun without having sex but know that when I do have that pleasure there will be fun had by both parties !" Why do you have the urge to implying your way of thinking to others? Live and let other live. "Without fun surely there would be no attraction" wohoo. I say I don't like the terminology because it sounds so childish. Can I stay with my point of view, please? | |||
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"its a serious business, your dealing with emotions - but, it should be fun too of course otherwise whats the point ??" I keep emotions out of it. I can have a deep mental connection without getting emotional | |||
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"To me it's serious fun. Anyone who doesn't see the fun element of it is probably s omeone I am incompatible with. " Geez again. So sex always is about mutual pleasure, fun, etc. Just the terminology for some ppl (FOR ME, for the lady who OP referred to) "fun, playing" sounds like a kindergarten, and some ppl may be annoyed with it. Ok, it is my last post clarifying this subject, those of you who choose not to understand I am sure would remain at their positions. | |||
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"You are so right. It is fun and you never stop learning more. There should be a School. Xx let's start one lol " | |||
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"being naked is funny most people look funny in the nude even the slim fit ones. people look funny when they are having sex too. make funny faces and noises when they cum." | |||
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"Sex should always be fun and pleasurable for all. What's the point otherwise. " exactly that! | |||
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"Sex should always be fun and pleasurable for all. What's the point otherwise. exactly that! " oh yes indeedy! | |||
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"Serious sex?? Wtf is that?????" a contract and business attire tx | |||
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"To me it's serious fun. Anyone who doesn't see the fun element of it is probably s omeone I am incompatible with. Geez again. So sex always is about mutual pleasure, fun, etc. Just the terminology for some ppl (FOR ME, for the lady who OP referred to) "fun, playing" sounds like a kindergarten, and some ppl may be annoyed with it. Ok, it is my last post clarifying this subject, those of you who choose not to understand I am sure would remain at their positions. " The term 'for me' was not judgemental in any way. I did not refer to anyone else. I simply gave my perspective. You are entitled to your perspective. You are not entitled to be rude to those who's perspective is different to your own. Have fun! | |||
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"To me it's serious fun. Anyone who doesn't see the fun element of it is probably s omeone I am incompatible with. Geez again. So sex always is about mutual pleasure, fun, etc. Just the terminology for some ppl (FOR ME, for the lady who OP referred to) "fun, playing" sounds like a kindergarten, and some ppl may be annoyed with it. Ok, it is my last post clarifying this subject, those of you who choose not to understand I am sure would remain at their positions. " ???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Surely sex is supposed to be about MUTUAL pleasure unless one is indulging alone. You seem to think it is ok to voice your opinion but are very arrogant then in criticising others for doing the same simply because their opinion does not match your's. This is an open forum thus EVERYONE is entitled to express their own opinion. Just to clarify the dictionary definition of fun and play are: Fun: the enjoyment of pleasure, particularly in leisure activities. Play: engage in activity for enjoyment and recreation rather than a serious or practical purpose. That pretty much sums up what the majority of us expect sex to be I would guess. | |||
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"too many people on here take sex, and themselves much too seriously. I don't want to meet people like that." Me either. I like people who make me feel relaxed | |||
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" You seem to think it is ok to voice your opinion but are very arrogant then in criticising others for doing the same simply because their opinion does not match your's. " Oh really? Please be so kind and point where I did it. Only thing I was criticizing for, that ppl don't put any effort to understand other then theirs point of view. In fact, they are listening, and all what they are hearing it is what they want, what suits their arguments. For example I said in this thread that for some ppl (and for me, and seems for the woman OP was referring) terminology "playing, fun" is from kindergarten, and may be annoying sometimes. I also added that I am not doing big fuzz about it, and of course sex is about mutual pleasure, and is the wording (fun, playing) which I am disputing, no fun itself. In return I have received none single post which give me a hint that anyone understood this, some others even say that ppl here are so serious and I shouldn't be here on fabs. Well, after all of this, seriously, I don't expect u would understand me, but if you be so kind and point where I criticize ppl for their opinion I would be very much thankful. | |||
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" You seem to think it is ok to voice your opinion but are very arrogant then in criticising others for doing the same simply because their opinion does not match your's. Oh really? Please be so kind and point where I did it. Only thing I was criticizing for, that ppl don't put any effort to understand other then theirs point of view. In fact, they are listening, and all what they are hearing it is what they want, what suits their arguments. For example I said in this thread that for some ppl (and for me, and seems for the woman OP was referring) terminology "playing, fun" is from kindergarten, and may be annoying sometimes. I also added that I am not doing big fuzz about it, and of course sex is about mutual pleasure, and is the wording (fun, playing) which I am disputing, no fun itself. In return I have received none single post which give me a hint that anyone understood this, some others even say that ppl here are so serious and I shouldn't be here on fabs. Well, after all of this, seriously, I don't expect u would understand me, but if you be so kind and point where I criticize ppl for their opinion I would be very much thankful." Your post came across as rude and arrogant. Perhaps you didn't mean it to. | |||
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" Your post came across as rude and arrogant. Perhaps you didn't mean it to. " If I am explaining simple meter twice, and Pl choose not to understand, in fact they are impaling me what I didn't say (that sex should be serious??) and are rude to me (suggesting that I should live that site haven been just too polite) yes, I can be little harsh in wording. | |||
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" Your post came across as rude and arrogant. Perhaps you didn't mean it to. If I am explaining simple meter twice, and Pl choose not to understand, in fact they are impaling me what I didn't say (that sex should be serious??) and are rude to me (suggesting that I should live that site haven been just too polite) yes, I can be little harsh in wording. " You came across as rude in response to my original post. You may not have meant that. Yes, your wording is very harsh. You might want to consider reading your posts carefully before you send them. | |||
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"For me sex is about passion. Naughtiest. Being promiscuous. Calling it fun or playing degrades it." while I agree with you that sex is about passion, and being promiscuous...I personally also think it's loads of fun and thoroughly enjoy playing with like-minded people. To quote satinandpearls "Just to clarify the dictionary definition of fun and play are: Fun: the enjoyment of pleasure, particularly in leisure activities. Play: engage in activity for enjoyment and recreation rather than a serious or practical purpose."....no where in the defintions of the words "fun" and "play" is there any mention of childlike behaviour. Of course you are entitled to equate the words with kindergarten (although I find it somewhat ironic that you do not put "naughtiest" in the same category), but to my mind the vast number of people on Fab who use the words "fun" and "playing" suggests to me that the majority do not feel these terms degrade what they do. There is nothing childlike about swinging.....at the ripe old age of 54 years and 11 months I'm off on a swinging holiday in Spain on Monday - looking forward to fun and playing in the sun....and guess what....I'm taking my favourite toys with me!!!! | |||
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" You seem to think it is ok to voice your opinion but are very arrogant then in criticising others for doing the same simply because their opinion does not match your's. Oh really? Please be so kind and point where I did it. Only thing I was criticizing for, that ppl don't put any effort to understand other then theirs point of view. In fact, they are listening, and all what they are hearing it is what they want, what suits their arguments. For example I said in this thread that for some ppl (and for me, and seems for the woman OP was referring) terminology "playing, fun" is from kindergarten, and may be annoying sometimes. I also added that I am not doing big fuzz about it, and of course sex is about mutual pleasure, and is the wording (fun, playing) which I am disputing, no fun itself. In return I have received none single post which give me a hint that anyone understood this, some others even say that ppl here are so serious and I shouldn't be here on fabs. Well, after all of this, seriously, I don't expect u would understand me, but if you be so kind and point where I criticize ppl for their opinion I would be very much thankful." Your responses to the posts of both shyguy and DB9 queen came across as rude and implied that they were not also entitled to express their opinions and I found your comments in those terms offensive. If it was a misunderstanding then I apologise for that but it is clear that I was not the only one who misunderstood your posts or found them offensive. | |||
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" Your responses to the posts of both shyguy and DB9 queen came across as rude and implied that they were not also entitled to express their opinions and I found your comments in those terms offensive. " I didn't mean offend anyone, if I did my apologies. But as a offend person u r implying that I am criticizing anyone for his opinion, please, can u point where? Unless u think it is opinion of someone, that he knows better what do I mean. | |||
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"I'm just wondering if those who equate the word 'play' with the kindergarten I would ask: Do you PLAY tennis? Do you PLAY golf? Do you PLAY music? Etc. You catch my drift? Adults PLAY lots of things. Doesn't mean they are childish. If someone uses the terms which make you feel uncomfortable, don’t meet them. I don't meet people who use language I don't like. " Completely agree. Playing has a lot of meaning, not only playing in kindergarten, I am just not fond of that referring to sex act. I didn't say it makes me uncomfortable, I just prefer other, more sexy/sensual wording. And yes, I tend to meet ppl who have similar sense of taste and of wording. If someone write me "hey how about playing today evening", he won't get positive response. | |||
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"I'm just wondering if those who equate the word 'play' with the kindergarten I would ask: Do you PLAY tennis? Do you PLAY golf? Do you PLAY music? Etc. You catch my drift? Adults PLAY lots of things. Doesn't mean they are childish. If someone uses the terms which make you feel uncomfortable, don’t meet them. I don't meet people who use language I don't like. Completely agree. Playing has a lot of meaning, not only playing in kindergarten, I am just not fond of that referring to sex act. I didn't say it makes me uncomfortable, I just prefer other, more sexy/sensual wording. And yes, I tend to meet ppl who have similar sense of taste and of wording. If someone write me "hey how about playing today evening", he won't get positive response. " What wording, for you, is preferable? | |||
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" What wording, for you, is preferable? " Well, depends on circumstances and context. But it is planty to choose: fucking screwing having sex shaging .. and much more | |||
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" What wording, for you, is preferable? Well, depends on circumstances and context. But it is planty to choose: fucking screwing having sex shaging .. and much more " I thought you said sensual language? That's not sensual. Quite the reverse. It's quite crude. Lots of people like that kind of language and it's a turn on for many. But it is far from sensual. | |||
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" I thought you said sensual language? That's not sensual. Quite the reverse. It's quite crude. Lots of people like that kind of language and it's a turn on for many. But it is far from sensual. " Yep I like it crude at times and sensual at times. The point is there is no (I think?) sensual wording for intercorse except making love, which I dislike very much But u can use many sensual words to describe the act itself. | |||
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"For me sex is about passion. Naughtiest. Being promiscuous. Calling it fun or playing degrades it." I wouldnt say it degrades it but i agree with the passion and naughtyness aswell as being promiscuous as a better way to refer to it... because within those are the playful and fun aspect of sex... I do not want to feel like im having sex with a drill sergeant (unless of course i aaaaam having sex with a drill sergant) | |||
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"So, other than 'making love', what are the many sensual words you can use?" I am not writing an erotic novel, at least not in English, but if u ask for words which are close to my sensual side, here you have: passionate sensulal sapiosexual open-minded responsive | |||
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"So, other than 'making love', what are the many sensual words you can use? I am not writing an erotic novel, at least not in English, but if u ask for words which are close to my sensual side, here you have: passionate sensulal sapiosexual open-minded responsive" Right so how could you use those whilst arranging a meet? They aren't nouns or really any kind of synonym for sex. They're descriptions that's all. Personally, if it is someone I haven't ever met before I don't particularly like crude language. Guys only get to use such language with me when I know them better. Otherwise, play and fun do nicely for me. Anyone who thinks I'm being childish really doesn't know me and certainly hasn't noticed my age. In fact, if anyone did suggest I was childish for using such terms id feel bloody insulted. It is unnecessarily judgemental from people who have never met me. | |||
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"I don't expect anyone wanting to meet me to describe out hypothetical intercourse. Why? What for? But the wording he use referring to whatever can be sensual, crude, fun. And again - as much as I love having fun in many ways (in sexual and non sexual way) I find repulsive if someone describe sexual intercourse as "playing" "or " having fun". But it is not a deal breaker for me, there are so many other things to see if he is mine cup of tea." If you find it repulsive then that surely is a deal breaker? It's a pretty strong word. Well, as I say 'play' and 'fun' suit me right down to the ground. What others think of that is irrelevant to me. They aren't people I'm likely to meet. | |||
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"I think that for a non-native speaker the idiosyncracies of English euphemisms can be a little mystifying so not fair to crash in too hard I do think that "fun" seems to have it along with "play" vocabulary being more than acceptable " I didn't know that that woman you r refering to in your first post was non-native? | |||
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"I don't expect anyone wanting to meet me to describe out hypothetical intercourse. Why? What for? But the wording he use referring to whatever can be sensual, crude, fun. And again - as much as I love having fun in many ways (in sexual and non sexual way) I find repulsive if someone describe sexual intercourse as "playing" "or " having fun". But it is not a deal breaker for me, there are so many other things to see if he is mine cup of tea." seems the total norm in clubs etc ... 'Do you want to play/fancy playing or up for fun' is used loads in swinging clubs! And when couples playing together , its a good way to know all are happy to continue... And actually have some fun and play! all know it means fucking ... But to some ' up for a fuck? ' is not the done thing at all! especially at clubs . | |||
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"Did I show in any sentence I am not accepting others have other opinion? That's remind me that u accused me of "criticizing others for doing the same simply because their opinion does not match mine" and I asked you politely to show me where exactly? " Your repeated insistence implies exactly what I argued. All I stated was that whilst you feel very strongly one way you must equally accept others feel just as strongly the other. Personally, I don't give a flying bat's fart what others think. How they address it is their business. I don't get upset or offended by it. Everyone is different. And that's what makes the world a more interesting place. | |||
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"Defiantly. We can't be more different. As I do very much care what other ppl think, and who they are." My mistake then as you came across quite strongly. | |||
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"Defiantly. We can't be more different. As I do very much care what other ppl think, and who they are. My mistake then as you came across quite strongly. " So if someone is strong in his opinion that implies he don't care of others opinions? Everyone is entitle to have his own opinion of any subject he choose. And that what make ppl different, make them interesting. And basing on other ppl opinions I can learn something about them and that is the way how we get to now ppl. | |||
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"Defiantly. We can't be more different. As I do very much care what other ppl think, and who they are. My mistake then as you came across quite strongly. So if someone is strong in his opinion that implies he don't care of others opinions? Everyone is entitle to have his own opinion of any subject he choose. And that what make ppl different, make them interesting. And basing on other ppl opinions I can learn something about them and that is the way how we get to now ppl. " I was attempting to apologise. Don't understand why you are continuing to argue. | |||
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"Maybe I didn't understand you. But defiantly I didn't want to argue. " Fair enough. | |||
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"Yes I am aware it is club slang, but I DON'T LIKE IT. I am perfectly entitle to have my opinion, am I not? I don't like the vision of 'easy social sex' as if from Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. I prefer promiscuous, dirty, provocative side of it. I have been two times at swingers club and fortunately none address me like this - so many other ways to let girl know that you would like to fuck her." wow! Hold ya horses woman! Calm down! You give your opinions, others gives theirs ... You taking it mighty personal! Chill! you have expesses several times you dont like it... ( We get it!) It aint gonna be stopped being used so just accept that! Lol ps.. People will not address you like that at a swinging club! It wont happen! Manners n all that! | |||
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"My thoughts exactly, can you a single guy asking " are you up for a fuck" in a club/party situation? The lady or couple would run a mile lol." exactly! Just because people are swingers they do still have manners, respect and etiquette in appropriate sutuations | |||
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"Yes I am aware it is club slang, but I DON'T LIKE IT. I am perfectly entitle to have my opinion, am I not? I don't like the vision of 'easy social sex' as if from Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. I prefer promiscuous, dirty, provocative side of it. I have been two times at swingers club and fortunately none address me like this - so many other ways to let girl know that you would like to fuck her. wow! Hold ya horses woman! Calm down! You give your opinions, others gives theirs ... You taking it mighty personal! Chill! you have expesses several times you dont like it... ( We get it!) It aint gonna be stopped being used so just accept that! Lol ps.. People will not address you like that at a swinging club! It wont happen! Manners n all that! " Why so many emotions? Why should I hold my horses while I am walking? I know it is only internet and we don't see emotions of person who is writing but I am afraid u r adding lots of your owns to my post. And some post above ppl were saying, that in clubs ppl addressing like this to others (wanna play) and it is perfectly normal, and u r saying it is lack of manners, so I am confused. | |||
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"If a total stranger asks me for a fuck I am offended. They do not know me well enough to speak to me like that. Someone I know well - no problem and it's rather sexy. The difference between them is knowing someone. " Wanna fuck? | |||
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"If a total stranger asks me for a fuck I am offended. They do not know me well enough to speak to me like that. Someone I know well - no problem and it's rather sexy. The difference between them is knowing someone. Wanna fuck? " How very dare you! | |||
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"Yes I am aware it is club slang, but I DON'T LIKE IT. I am perfectly entitle to have my opinion, am I not? I don't like the vision of 'easy social sex' as if from Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. I prefer promiscuous, dirty, provocative side of it. I have been two times at swingers club and fortunately none address me like this - so many other ways to let girl know that you would like to fuck her. wow! Hold ya horses woman! Calm down! You give your opinions, others gives theirs ... You taking it mighty personal! Chill! you have expesses several times you dont like it... ( We get it!) It aint gonna be stopped being used so just accept that! Lol ps.. People will not address you like that at a swinging club! It wont happen! Manners n all that! Why so many emotions? Why should I hold my horses while I am walking? I know it is only internet and we don't see emotions of person who is writing but I am afraid u r adding lots of your owns to my post. And some post above ppl were saying, that in clubs ppl addressing like this to others (wanna play) and it is perfectly normal, and u r saying it is lack of manners, so I am confused. " no i am saying it is normal and the done thing in clubs , to ask if someone is up for fun, wants to play etc ..it is not the done thing to say " up for a fuck?'' '' fancy a shag'? Etc which is what you say you prefere... The clubs that we go to , no man/woman/ couple would say that... And always use the club etiquette , which works well and offends no one.( if someone said to us ' fancy a shag' that is lack of manners and repect) I am simply replying to the posts on a thread.... Adding my opinion as you are yours . | |||
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"If a total stranger asks me for a fuck I am offended. They do not know me well enough to speak to me like that. Someone I know well - no problem and it's rather sexy. The difference between them is knowing someone. " exactly! | |||
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"So u clearly misunderstood me (not the first time) as I was saying that fortunately I haven't been addressed in way I don't like and the discussion is all about (PLAY) I am not saying I would be offended, just fortunately ppl are more inventive. And there in more in a smile or way gays look at me etc." ""And again - as much as I love having fun in many ways (in sexual and non sexual way) I find repulsive if someone describe sexual intercourse as "playing" "or " having fun". ( your words! ) | |||
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" Oh my! Lmfao ...... Where' s the frigging pop corn! Damn! " Let's make love = let's build that IKEA wardrobe with hangers included. | |||
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" Oh my! Lmfao ...... Where' s the frigging pop corn! Damn! Let's make love = let's build that IKEA wardrobe with hangers included. " lmfao! Haha luv it! | |||
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" Oh my! Lmfao ...... Where' s the frigging pop corn! Damn! Let's make love = let's build that IKEA wardrobe with hangers included. lmfao! Haha luv it! " | |||
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