FabSwingers.com forum: Swingers & Safety

By *ethot69 OP Couple
over a year ago

Merseyside

You must all know the traditional impression of the swinger - e.g. reckless sex-mad lunatics, a social group prevalent with STD's due to a "car keys in a bowl" mentality to wife swapping.

But, honestly, we've been swinging for some time (a fifth of our life, bizarrely xD) and what we've found again and again is that the vast majority of swingers are exceptionally conscious of sexual health - in fact, we'd argue far more aware than the general public.

There's a thorough understanding of pretty much every STD you care to mention throughout the entire community and what can be done to all but negate the chance of infection, as well as a good understanding of the GUM clinic facilities available to them.

Compare this to "vanilla" clubbing and such, where one night stands occur under the influence of alcohol at all ages with people lacking even the rudimentaries of sexual health. The spread of chlamydia amongst todays youth shows the lack of understanding.

So the point is - do we swingers get an unfair rap for the lifestyle we lead? Whilst understanding that this lifestyle is not exactly conventional and would never be mainstream, we feel that sometimes the issue is swept under the rug and gathers a lot of misunderstanding.

T & L x

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By *lumsy colinMan
over a year ago

basingstoke

what a great posting thing is you have sort of said it all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think all life styles that are unconventional are judged incorrectly. Its lack of knowledge of the lifestyle that causes misconceptions. For example glenn is vegan so people instantly assume he has a very restrictive diet and does not get enough protein, but like your point regarding STD's in the swinging world as a vege and a vegan we are far more aware of what we put in our body and what we do with it.

Unfortunately there are so many small minded people in the world unwilling to learn i think incorrect views and opinions on a lifestyle such as swinging will always remain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was beginning to think no-one had anything interesting to say, something to get ones teeth into and here we go at last

I saw the car keys in a bowl on Sexcetera the other night, brilliant idea though one might end up with someone they dont really want, fun for a private party though.

On another note, the lack of understanding or i should say, erring on the sale of newspapers, my local rag totally ill-reported the idea of opening a swingers club in Gloucester so it was doomed before it had even opened

shame cos it was fabulous inside

I think swinging is a lot safer than meeting some stranger in a nightclub and taking him home or going to his, you've no idea whether he will or wont play safe, being d*unk doesnt help the situation either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think its rather unfair to single out the youth of today when sti rates in the over 45's are at a higher rate than 18-25 yr olds. between 1996 and 2003.

Between 1996 and 2003 the numbers of infections identified in younger age groups rose 97 per cent during the same time those identified in the over 45s rose 127 percent.

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By *ethot69 OP Couple
over a year ago

Merseyside

"i think its rather unfair to single out the youth of today when sti rates in the over 45's are at a higher rate than 18-25 yr olds. between 1996 and 2003.

Between 1996 and 2003 the numbers of infections identified in younger age groups rose 97 per cent during the same time those identified in the over 45s rose 127 percent.

We're 25 too

It's not a case of a pair of old people trashing the youth :P

Fair enough though, but I think I can explain that. The older generation were brought up in a world of relative sexual freedom. The STD pandemic is a recent thing (sure STD's existed in 1960 but nowhere near the same as they are today). As such, the understanding hasn't been instilled from youth so the increase in STD's in that age group is no surprise.

What is surprising in a way is that the younger generation by and large just completely ignore the massive amount of advice and facilities granted to them.

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By *eakcoupleCouple
over a year ago

peak district

The older generation were brought up in a world of relative sexual freedom. The STD pandemic is a recent thing (sure STD's existed in 1960 but nowhere near the same as they are today). As such, the understanding hasn't been instilled from youth so the increase in STD's in that age group is no surprise.

Think this is correct - when we were younger condoms were seen as just a rather unattractive form of birth control; many girls took the pill and loved the freedom it gave. For the first time it was OK to have sex when you wanted and with whoever you wanted, and we both did just that! The sort of message you got in those days from parents was 'don't get pregnant' or 'don't make a girl pregnant' not 'don't catch anything'.

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By *-and-KCouple
over a year ago

Back of Beyond

Thosde involved are far more concerned about the health implications than as you say, 'the one night stand'

But we are never going to be accepted in the mainstream, not because we are deviant, but because they fail to understand. Be that women or men, they immediately feel threatened once you mention you are a swinger, not directly, but they think you may make a move for their partner in some way.

As to being accepted by local councils, I feel envy for those people who live in city's and towns with club facilities.

I thought about opening premises in Hull, even went down the road of contacts with police, public health etc. The concensus was I would never be granted a license to open a club. Clubs are now classed as sexual establishments, just like sex shops and whilst there are a couple in Hull, the council is trying to close them down as 'unwholesome'!!

Sex shops and other establishments like them have nowadays to conform to bylaws formulated to make sure they can't operate! For instance, 1 complaint from an individual about premises results in a full investigation, the costs of which can be passed on to the shop or club!

Think about that, mr smith at number 12 complains about anything, they investigate, you pay the bill. Week after mr jones at number 14 complains,,,well you get the picture!

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