FabSwingers.com forum: Bareback sex

By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago

West London

Really? Really, really?

My mind is boggling a little bit

Up to you of course, but, really?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes ofcourse. I creamed few girls up to.. love it and owt is better

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

How about look after yourself, and leave others to there choices/preferences.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"How about look after yourself, and leave others to there choices/preferences."

Yup!!

Don't make such a big thing of it so people still show that they do it then you can make an informed decision on whether to meet them or not. The more people slate, ridicule, hound the barebackers the more underground it will go and you will never know who does it or not.

Another way to protect yourself o's to assume everyone does it so always play safe.

The only persons sexual health you can control is your own.

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

Well the op is well educated and cannot accom. Fairplay to him considering his wife and not doing bareback with whoever behind her back

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

People do all sorts of things on here that others find distasteful, honesty is the way forward so that all concerned know the facts and can proceed accordingly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Saw a profile recently on here which stated that he only accepted bareback sex and looking for selected couples and singles women to do it regularly with.

He may or not have been cleaned, but who's to say, his selected partners are??

Needless to say, soon moved onto the next profile.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Saw a profile recently on here which stated that he only accepted bareback sex and looking for selected couples and singles women to do it regularly with.

He may or not have been cleaned, but who's to say, his selected partners are??

Needless to say, soon moved onto the next profile.

That is exactly how honesty works though. He is clear in his intentions and requirements enabling you to make an informed choice. If people hide the fact that they don't use condoms (and many do) nobody can make an informed choice.

Incidentally condoms only make it safer there is more than one transmission route.

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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago

West London

Perhaps like wasn't judging. Perhaps I was wanting to find out why people want to do it.

Is that possible?

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

It's possible I suppose but looking st the OP not probable.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"Perhaps like wasn't judging. Perhaps I was wanting to find out why people want to do it.

Is that possible?

It feels nicer.

The number of single men we have met who claim that they only practice safe sex yet carry no condoms of their own and seem slightly taken aback when we produce our own is astounding. Lots of men expect couples to do bareback for some reason I think some of them think that couples will automatically be clear...in our experience anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always carry 2 in my wallet,

You never know

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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago

West London

I indulge my particular perversions for my own reasons and have stated them in my profile and am happy to discuss them with anyone who's interested.

I'm aware of the risks and handle them appropriately.

Perhaps I'm just a product of the big AIDS safe sex campaign of the 80s and 90s but I would like to know where that balance lies for people who want to indulge in unprotected see.

So anyone for some more constructive comments?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Perhaps like wasn't judging. Perhaps I was wanting to find out why people want to do it.

Is that possible?

It feels nicer.

Have to say yes it's quite fascinating how many don't carry or come prepared, we always have a selection ( infact just bought 60 on a special offer lol , all shapes, sizes and flavours ) the only person that can look after your health is yourself as long as you keep that in mind why worry what others do ?

And it's always funny how it's called "safe sex" the only safe sex is no sex ( actually sitting in a seperate room with no contact at all is the only safe sex ) people need to realise that even a condom doesn't protect from std's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Really? Really, really?

My mind is boggling a little bit

Up to you of course, but, really?"

People will they always have but threads like this just demonise it so people are less open about it and you could end up playing with people who do but keep quiet about it rather than being open and you could avoid.

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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago

West London

"Have to say yes it's quite fascinating how many don't carry or come prepared, we always have a selection ( infact just bought 60 on a special offer lol , all shapes, sizes and flavours ) the only person that can look after your health is yourself as long as you keep that in mind why worry what others do ?

Not worried, just curious, and I am learning that in the forums it not always safe to be several hundred miles away

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Even if i'm off to a social i always take my own, i like the brand i use and never want to be caught short the hardest thing is taking enough you never know how the night will go if there is more then one woman i put a new one on for each girl so i dont pass anything between them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bareback for me is only for gf's someone where its more like making love

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By *inkyNGotchaCouple
over a year ago

Staffs

It's funny how people associate safe sex with intercourse... Oral is by far a riskier transmission for so many things... The amount of pics on here with women giving head to 5 or 6 guys without condoms but insist on one for intercourse astounds me... Not judging.. Just saying...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always carry 2 in my wallet,

You never know

Wallet's not necessarily best place to keep them as could get repeatedly squeezed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Perhaps like wasn't judging. Perhaps I was wanting to find out why people want to do it.

Is that possible?

It feels nicer.

If they get checked regularly they can get big bags of condoms from the clinic/hospital...no reason to not have any

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's funny how people associate safe sex with intercourse... Oral is by far a riskier transmission for so many things... The amount of pics on here with women giving head to 5 or 6 guys without condoms but insist on one for intercourse astounds me... Not judging.. Just saying...

Does that mean you don't insist on them for full sex? your pictures show you giving oral and they are amazing pictures too. Just wondering. not judging. BTW your profile is erotic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So anyone for some more constructive comments?

I think your OP set a condescending rather than a curious tone!

I think the clue as to why people do it is calculated risk. All human contact involves risk of infection, and everyone decides what is an acceptable level of risk for the pleasure gained. It is not dissimilar to choosing to ejaculate in your wife or girlfriend despite the risk of pregnancy.

It is also a matter of frame of reference. For example, I am a very low-level player but I still had non-playing friends question my decision to give unprotected oral. People's comfort zone or perceived danger is different depending on their experiences. A lot of these decisions ride on moral judgement too, not just logic. For example - is it riskier to have condomed PIV/anal penetration but otherwise unrestricted sex with 12 partners, or to have bareback with one? There are no statistics on this, everyone has to decide for themselves.

But at the bottom of it - how much would it bother you if you did get infected? Most infections are treatable if not totally curable now. In general people tend to do a lot of reckless things for kicks (bungee jumping, anyone?). I think these same type of thrill-seekers choose to go for the maximum pleasure of skin-on-skin.

For the record, I use condoms even with my regular partners! Which makes me a very peculiar bareback apologist :P

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By *inkyNGotchaCouple
over a year ago

Staffs

"So anyone for some more constructive comments?

I think your OP set a condescending rather than a curious tone!

For the record, I use condoms even with my regular partners! Which makes me a very peculiar bareback apologist :P"

Great post!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I practise safe sexy times

But don't use protection for oral

I always have condoms in my bag

And am a regular up the clinic

I don't tend to play with many new people usually just regulars but even then you don't know what or who they been doing ha ha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The more people slate, ridicule, hound the barebackers the more underground it will go and you will never know who does it or not."

(Sorry, I have to argue both positions

) You've made a valid and interesting point. I am one of these people that daemonise barebackers. The reason for my dislike being that in my limited experience most of them (admittedly, mostly men) are so set on their ways that they constantly push for their agenda, even ridiculing me in reverse for being what they perceive to be as overly cautious.

"Bareback or boring?" that's someone's actual phrasing when asking to know my preference!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I indulge my particular perversions for my own reasons and have stated them in my profile and am happy to discuss them with anyone who's interested.

I'm aware of the risks and handle them appropriately.

Perhaps I'm just a product of the big AIDS safe sex campaign of the 80s and 90s but I would like to know where that balance lies for people who want to indulge in unprotected see.

So anyone for some more constructive comments?

also saves having to explain to your wife how you got a STI i suppose

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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago

West London

"also saves having to explain to your wife how you got a STI i suppose

That is a happy consequence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

See last weeks thread

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

STD,s are transmitted through ANY bodily fluids, lick your fingers after and during playing with a womans pussy is just as dangerous as bareback sex. Oral sex both ways is a far greater chance of catching something, at partys you don,t go wash your mouth out after licking pussy or sucking cock chances are you move on to someone else so spreading any diseases further. Its all about TRUST at the end of the day and regular check ups.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"STD,s are transmitted through ANY bodily fluids, lick your fingers after and during playing with a womans pussy is just as dangerous as bareback sex. Oral sex both ways is a far greater chance of catching something, at partys you don,t go wash your mouth out after licking pussy or sucking cock chances are you move on to someone else so spreading any diseases further. Its all about TRUST at the end of the day and regular check ups."

Do you mean there is a far greater chance of catching something via oral sex than via protected penetrative sex?

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Yes when bodily fluides are exchanged theres is a risk of catching a STD, unprotected oral is just as bad as unprotected full sex. Your mouth is wet all the time with saliva licking a womans pussy which wet when aroused or sucking a mans cock when precum can and does seep out is exchanging bodily fluids but we all do it with thinking it can just as dangerous as full on unprotected sex.

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By *layfull pairingCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

I like to think we are all educated adults who understand the various risks in whatever we do and whoever we do it with. I dont know why some people feel the need to preach to others like we are witless retards. (jumps back down from soapbox)

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By *nlyfun3Woman
over a year ago

NEAR Berkhamsted,Herts

"Yes when bodily fluides are exchanged theres is a risk of catching a STD, unprotected oral is just as bad as unprotected full sex. Your mouth is wet all the time with saliva licking a womans pussy which wet when aroused or sucking a mans cock when precum can and does seep out is exchanging bodily fluids but we all do it with thinking it can just as dangerous as full on unprotected sex."

i have had this discussion at a gum clinic and am a nurse. not all ur fact r true. oral sex is a reduced risk. not all sti's which they arenow called can be transmitted orally. some can oly be transmitted if say u have a cut or ulcer in your mouth. this is why when u attend the clinic as a woman u rarely routinely get a throat swab . but a vaginal and if u partake in anal,an anal swab. it is also the case that if u do happen to contract something orally the chances of passing it on ive been told is minimal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bareback

I do it because I like it.

It's not a necessity when meeting with someone but if we're both comfortable with it then who cares.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here we go again. Proportion please folks.

The statically chance of catching HIV from a single act of unprotected sex has been calculated at 1 in 1,000,000.

Statistically that means in 50 year sex life a person would have to have sex 55 times A DAY, every day of their sex life, to reach statistical certainty.

The chances of being struck by lightening in a lifetime is 1 in 5000 or 200 times higher so forget the condoms get a Faraday cage!!!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

It is a risk certainly but it isn't as risky as unprotected penetration

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"Here we go again. Proportion please folks.

The statically chance of catching HIV from a single act of unprotected sex has been calculated at 1 in 1,000,000.

Statistically that means in 50 year sex life a person would have to have sex 55 times A DAY, every day of their sex life, to reach statistical certainty.

The chances of being struck by lightening in a lifetime is 1 in 5000 or 200 times higher so forget the condoms get a Faraday cage!!!

And the statistical probability of catching any of the other stds?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Here we go again. Proportion please folks.

The statically chance of catching HIV from a single act of unprotected sex has been calculated at 1 in 1,000,000.

Statistically that means in 50 year sex life a person would have to have sex 55 times A DAY, every day of their sex life, to reach statistical certainty.

The chances of being struck by lightening in a lifetime is 1 in 5000 or 200 times higher so forget the condoms get a Faraday cage!!!

Lies, damned lies and statistics!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the risk from oral for some STDs is similar to unprotected sex. However, many of these diseases are treatable and hopefully people who know they are currently infected wont play. For HIV which remains the one which is not obvious and much more serious, oral sex is a very low risk activity. I would always want to use condoms for fucking (although unprotected feels so much better) but oral sex is almost pointless with a condom and so I prefer to go without - as one poster said it is balance of risk.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"Here we go again. Proportion please folks.

The statically chance of catching HIV from a single act of unprotected sex has been calculated at 1 in 1,000,000.

Statistically that means in 50 year sex life a person would have to have sex 55 times A DAY, every day of their sex life, to reach statistical certainty.

The chances of being struck by lightening in a lifetime is 1 in 5000 or 200 times higher so forget the condoms get a Faraday cage!!!

So everyone with HIV had sex 55 times a day? Or are statistics pretty meaningless?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Here we go again. Proportion please folks.

The statically chance of catching HIV from a single act of unprotected sex has been calculated at 1 in 1,000,000.

Statistically that means in 50 year sex life a person would have to have sex 55 times A DAY, every day of their sex life, to reach statistical certainty.

The chances of being struck by lightening in a lifetime is 1 in 5000 or 200 times higher so forget the condoms get a Faraday cage!!!

And your point is?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"How about look after yourself, and leave others to there choices/preferences.

Yup!!

Another way to protect yourself o's to assume everyone does it so always play safe.

The only persons sexual health you can control is your own. "

Simply: this!

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

No its not as risky as unprotected penetration but your last question was about protected penetration not unprotected.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Here we go again. Proportion please folks.

The statically chance of catching HIV from a single act of unprotected sex has been calculated at 1 in 1,000,000.

Statistically that means in 50 year sex life a person would have to have sex 55 times A DAY, every day of their sex life, to reach statistical certainty.

The chances of being struck by lightening in a lifetime is 1 in 5000 or 200 times higher so forget the condoms get a Faraday cage!!!

And the statistical probability of catching any of the other stds?"

Higher of course but most people talk like a sti is a death sentence and these days only HIV comes close.

I can sort out the other statistics if you wish but they are already available in other forum posts.

Strange isn't it. If someone gets influenza, a very nasty contagious infection, there is universal sympathy. If they get chlamydia, a virtually symptomless bacterial infection, from doing what humans were made to do, they are somehow looked down on. Shouldn't we wear rubber gloves and face masks to prevent flu?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Here we go again. Proportion please folks.

The statically chance of catching HIV from a single act of unprotected sex has been calculated at 1 in 1,000,000.

Statistically that means in 50 year sex life a person would have to have sex 55 times A DAY, every day of their sex life, to reach statistical certainty.

The chances of being struck by lightening in a lifetime is 1 in 5000 or 200 times higher so forget the condoms get a Faraday cage!!!

And your point is?"

Sorry you missed it.

We face far greater risks in our daily lives from our normal activities than any barebacker does. It seems that because STIs are related to that universal evil, sex, we must treat them differently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got more chance getting involved with an accident in londons roads than an std

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Each to their own. I control my own sexual health. I personally would only wear a condom. I look at every meet as a potential barebacker. I have no control over others actions. I can only control my own.

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London

"Perhaps like wasn't judging. Perhaps I was wanting to find out why people want to do it.

Is that possible?

It feels nicer.

Why don't you guys show these people the exit door. If they new that it was a safe house beforehand, why come unprepared.

If a man came to paint your house and hadn't even bothered to bring his own paintbrush. Would you still let him paint your house?

Doh!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The chance of winning the Euromillions is 1:116,000,000. Every week or so someone wins

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London

"The chance of winning the Euromillions is 1:116,000,000. Every week or so someone wins "

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By *arkinberksMan
over a year ago

Ascot

Hmm. ... few thoughts on this.

Firstly, some choose bareback due to allergies to latex, although you can get non - latex condoms. Some find that risky sex adds a certain frisson. A few are intent on getting pregnant and hang the possible consequences/risks that could arise. It just depends on what floats your boat. I'm old enough to remember when the only reason for using a condom was because your partner wasn't on the pill. You tended to be more circumspect about where you hid the sausage.

AIDS made us all rethink how we approach sex. You opt for a condom because deep down you don't trust the other person to be 100% clean. It's not a personal slight, just that you have knowledge of their previous relationships and whether they were disease free. Even long term relationships suffer. The scares about the possible long term effects from taking the pill meant that many women stopped taking it, leaving the only viable options for preventing pregnancy being a) condom b) vasectomy c) abstinence.

Me ? I got used to playing safe. Bit of a culture shock but when it comes to casual sex the safe option is trust nobody.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"Perhaps like wasn't judging. Perhaps I was wanting to find out why people want to do it.

Is that possible?

It feels nicer.

Why don't you guys show these people the exit door. If they new that it was a safe house beforehand, why come unprepared.

If a man came to paint your house and hadn't even bothered to bring his own paintbrush. Would you still let him paint your house?

Doh!!"

Yep good point. We had them, they didn't refuse to use them so we went ahead. None of them bothered to bring a paintbrush either

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London

"Perhaps like wasn't judging. Perhaps I was wanting to find out why people want to do it.

Is that possible?

It feels nicer.

Why don't you guys show these people the exit door. If they new that it was a safe house beforehand, why come unprepared.

If a man came to paint your house and hadn't even bothered to bring his own paintbrush. Would you still let him paint your house?

Doh!!

Yep good point. We had them, they didn't refuse to use them so we went ahead. None of them bothered to bring a paintbrush either

lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not a chance EVER

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Perhaps like wasn't judging. Perhaps I was wanting to find out why people want to do it.

Is that possible?

It feels nicer.

Why don't you guys show these people the exit door. If they new that it was a safe house beforehand, why come unprepared.

If a man came to paint your house and hadn't even bothered to bring his own paintbrush. Would you still let him paint your house?

Doh!!

Yep good point. We had them, they didn't refuse to use them so we went ahead. None of them bothered to bring a paintbrush either

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same

if they use ours then they use ours we don't mind that's why we have them , if they refused then that's a different story

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Each to their own. I control my own sexual health. I personally would only wear a condom. I look at every meet as a potential barebacker. I have no control over others actions. I can only control my own. "

Exactly this. A condom is unquestionable for me.

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London

"Perhaps like wasn't judging. Perhaps I was wanting to find out why people want to do it.

Is that possible?

It feels nicer.

Why don't you guys show these people the exit door. If they new that it was a safe house beforehand, why come unprepared.

If a man came to paint your house and hadn't even bothered to bring his own paintbrush. Would you still let him paint your house?

Doh!!

Yep good point. We had them, they didn't refuse to use them so we went ahead. None of them bothered to bring a paintbrush either

same

if they use ours then they use ours we don't mind that's why we have them , if they refused then that's a different story "

I hear,and i respect what your saying, i have a friend and she has an allergy to latex. So she has latex free condom's which she supply's. We all know the score.

For me i play safe. So if i came round to your house without condoms that means I'm looking for some bareback play, and i know and you know that Jonny isn't full proof.

I had a play partner on here and she use to have guys wanting to go bareback because they supposedly forgot there condoms, and she always walked with them. And id always say why do you play with them?

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

"Got more chance getting involved with an accident in londons roads than an std

Where did the 1 in a million stat come from????????

A meta-analysis of 10 studies exploring the risk of transmission through vaginal sex was published in 2009.4 It estimated the risk of HIV transmission through receptive vaginal sex (receiving the penis in the vagina) to be 0.08% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 1,250 exposures).

A meta-analysis of three studies exploring the risk from insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures).3

Each to their own, but always check the odds yourself. Don't rely on my stats or anyone who quotes numbers. They could spout them from anywhere. Like their arse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People think it's just STDs but that's not the only issue here you have HPV which woman can get from males STD screening tests cannot pick up HPV most males don't even know they have it this can lead to bad cells which can lead to cancer

Also another thing you can say I've only slept with 3 people

Who have those 3 people slept with?

10 people each

Then those 10 people who have they slept with the list can multiply very quickly

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Look which ever way you slice it, a condom provides safer sex, if not safe sex.

But in the end we are all free to fuck how we want.

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By *eddonistikMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"Perhaps like wasn't judging. Perhaps I was wanting to find out why people want to do it.

Is that possible?

I haven't even read the rest of the thread but will take the risk of saying it's more fun. Women like the feel of a man's cum shooting inside them, dribbling out as he finishes pumping his cock into her. Men get a similar feeling as they ejaculate. I love going down on a woman that I and several others have come come in, also love it when I'm down on here and can see his cock pulsing as the spunk goes up his shaft. It floats my boat, it may or may not float yours. If you don't feel happy about doing something don't do it, if you do, do it. Quite simple really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bare back for me is no no diffrent when.married for 26 yesrs now singel most inportant thing unless i settle down again .

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Why don't you guys show these people the exit door. If they new that it was a safe house beforehand, why come unprepared.

If a man came to paint your house and hadn't even bothered to bring his own paintbrush. Would you still let him paint your house?

Doh!!

Yep good point. We had them, they didn't refuse to use them so we went ahead. None of them bothered to bring a paintbrush either

same

if they use ours then they use ours we don't mind that's why we have them , if they refused then that's a different story

I hear,and i respect what your saying, i have a friend and she has an allergy to latex. So she has latex free condom's which she supply's. We all know the score.

For me i play safe. So if i came round to your house without condoms that means I'm looking for some bareback play, and i know and you know that Jonny isn't full proof.

And I would always say it was our decision at the time. If a woman turned up to meet you and just before you were about to enter her, wearing a condom you had supplied, having allowed her to put your unprotected cock on her mouth, your ungloved fingers in her pussy she said "I didn't bring my own condoms"......would you walk?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always use condoms and take my own with me. It's no guarantee for avoiding sti as oral sex is always a risk! I wonder if any guys were asked to put a condom on for oral if they would refuse?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I always use condoms and take my own with me. It's no guarantee for avoiding sti as oral sex is always a risk! I wonder if any guys were asked to put a condom on for oral if they would refuse? "

No one we asked ever refused.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I always use condoms and take my own with me. It's no guarantee for avoiding sti as oral sex is always a risk! I wonder if any guys were asked to put a condom on for oral if they would refuse?

No one we asked ever refused."

Although thinking back one guy did whip it off and hope we wouldn't notice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always use condoms and take my own with me. It's no guarantee for avoiding sti as oral sex is always a risk! I wonder if any guys were asked to put a condom on for oral if they would refuse?

No one we asked ever refused."

Thank you for response. Maybe if I get a meet sometime later I'll try asking

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London

"I always use condoms and take my own with me. It's no guarantee for avoiding sti as oral sex is always a risk! I wonder if any guys were asked to put a condom on for oral if they would refuse?

No one we asked ever refused."

i have been asked and i obliged

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had a chap turn up and when I asked him did he bring any condoms said the excuse that everywhere he went had packs of 15s and he wanted a pack of 3s. No condoms, no penetrative sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always use condoms and take my own with me. It's no guarantee for avoiding sti as oral sex is always a risk! I wonder if any guys were asked to put a condom on for oral if they would refuse?

No one we asked ever refused.

Although thinking back one guy did whip it off and hope we wouldn't notice. "

Did that end the meeting

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London

Why don't you guys show these people the exit door. If they new that it was a safe house beforehand, why come unprepared.

If a man came to paint your house and hadn't even bothered to bring his own paintbrush. Would you still let him paint your house?

Doh!!

Yep good point. We had them, they didn't refuse to use them so we went ahead. None of them bothered to bring a paintbrush either

same

if they use ours then they use ours we don't mind that's why we have them , if they refused then that's a different story

I hear,and i respect what your saying, i have a friend and she has an allergy to latex. So she has latex free condom's which she supply's. We all know the score.

For me i play safe. So if i came round to your house without condoms that means I'm looking for some bareback play, and i know and you know that Jonny isn't full proof.

Call me old fashion in a morden world. If i get invited to a party, I'll bring the bottle, although the host would already provided some.

Likewise as a single man, the invite would be sent to me, to come and play. And as its a safe house, should i have some sort of decency in bringing a bottle, sorry i mean a Johnny to the party.

I must say I'm not against bareback for those who want to partake in it. I'm just against those who want to smuggle it in with 'Oh i forgot my johnnys'

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By *erryandSailorCouple
over a year ago

cardiff

"I always use condoms and take my own with me. It's no guarantee for avoiding sti as oral sex is always a risk! I wonder if any guys were asked to put a condom on for oral if they would refuse? "

Has happened twice recently once on a couple meet and half way through she took it off and the last time at a party so moved on from that lady

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's nice to see there are obliging people on here. I think once im sorted it will be the way I am going to play. Probably will put the kibosh on meeting but I don't get any anyway lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, I've had a similar discussion with the nurses and doctors at a GUM clinic last time I visited and was told the same thing. Still possible to pick up some std but others including HIV are very low risk and unlikely from oral.

All subject to of course to not having any injury in your mouth, damaged gums or disease, ulcers etc. that means anything you're sucking/licking can come into contact with bleeding or blood in your mouth. Then it's very high risk apparently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have not had any mouth ulcers ever. The only bodily fluids exchanged was when I kissed him after he did oral on me. Probably sounds naive but Im hopeful anyway or trying to be

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Why don't you guys show these people the exit door. If they new that it was a safe house beforehand, why come unprepared.

If a man came to paint your house and hadn't even bothered to bring his own paintbrush. Would you still let him paint your house?

Doh!!

Yep good point. We had them, they didn't refuse to use them so we went ahead. None of them bothered to bring a paintbrush either

same

if they use ours then they use ours we don't mind that's why we have them , if they refused then that's a different story

I hear,and i respect what your saying, i have a friend and she has an allergy to latex. So she has latex free condom's which she supply's. We all know the score.

For me i play safe. So if i came round to your house without condoms that means I'm looking for some bareback play, and i know and you know that Jonny isn't full proof.

Call me old fashion in a morden world. If i get invited to a party, I'll bring the bottle, although the host would already provided some.

Likewise as a single man, the invite would be sent to me, to come and play. And as its a safe house, should i have some sort of decency in bringing a bottle, sorry i mean a Johnny to the party.

I must say I'm not against bareback for those who want to partake in it. I'm just against those who want to smuggle it in with 'Oh i forgot my johnnys'"

But you didn't answer my question.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I always use condoms and take my own with me. It's no guarantee for avoiding sti as oral sex is always a risk! I wonder if any guys were asked to put a condom on for oral if they would refuse?

No one we asked ever refused.

Although thinking back one guy did whip it off and hope we wouldn't notice.

Did that end the meeting

Yep!

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By *ngelsdevilWoman
over a year ago

Merseyside

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By *ngelsdevilWoman
over a year ago

Merseyside

"It's nice to see there are obliging people on here. I think once im sorted it will be the way I am going to play. Probably will put the kibosh on meeting but I don't get any anyway lol

Sorry if I've got this wrong but I really can't tell what you mean from the posts...

Do you mean you are going to start playing bare?! if this is the case do you really think it's clever and ethical to put your unsuspecting husband at risk of catching a life changing infection such as HIV?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"It's nice to see there are obliging people on here. I think once im sorted it will be the way I am going to play. Probably will put the kibosh on meeting but I don't get any anyway lol

Sorry if I've got this wrong but I really can't tell what you mean from the posts...

I thought she meant that she would start asking men to wear a condom for oral

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

"It's nice to see there are obliging people on here. I think once im sorted it will be the way I am going to play. Probably will put the kibosh on meeting but I don't get any anyway lol

Sorry if I've got this wrong but I really can't tell what you mean from the posts...

or herpes ....which don't go

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By *ngelsdevilWoman
over a year ago

Merseyside

"It's nice to see there are obliging people on here. I think once im sorted it will be the way I am going to play. Probably will put the kibosh on meeting but I don't get any anyway lol

Sorry if I've got this wrong but I really can't tell what you mean from the posts...

I thought she meant that she would start asking men to wear a condom for oral"

That's a definite possibility also, I've just read it a few times and can't quite clarify it! Probably more likely as this would likely put the kibosh on men wanting a meet!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know a guy in the music business who has had literally thousands of groupies. all unprotected and he doesn't have aids, although I bet he's had a few other things over the years.

me? I always carry superglue for the bollocks of any guy expecting bareback

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By *ngelsdevilWoman
over a year ago

Merseyside

"I know a guy in the music business who has had literally thousands of groupies. all unprotected and he doesn't have aids, although I bet he's had a few other things over the years.

me? I always carry superglue for the bollocks of any guy expecting bareback

He's a lucky guy! Honestly anyone thinking bareback is a good idea needs to give Stephen Fry HIV and Me (1&2) a watch! it's a really harrowing documentary! One which made me put the breaks on meeting anyone else off here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We only know each other's history. We look at every other person we meet as a potential risk. B has halted play because of things that she has seen on a person that she has not been happy with, before it got any further than a hand job. We are regulars at the clinic. We use condoms with every person we meet and B will give bjs with condoms, whether they are flavoured or not now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's nice to see there are obliging people on here. I think once im sorted it will be the way I am going to play. Probably will put the kibosh on meeting but I don't get any anyway lol

Sorry if I've got this wrong but I really can't tell what you mean from the posts...

I thought she meant that she would start asking men to wear a condom for oral

That's a definite possibility also, I've just read it a few times and can't quite clarify it! Probably more likely as this would likely put the kibosh on men wanting a meet! "

Sorry it was unclear. No to bareback and a yes to asking men to wear condoms for oral, which they may not like and could stop me getting meets. Hope this is clearer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London

Why don't you guys show these people the exit door. If they new that it was a safe house beforehand, why come unprepared.

If a man came to paint your house and hadn't even bothered to bring his own paintbrush. Would you still let him paint your house?

Doh!!

Yep good point. We had them, they didn't refuse to use them so we went ahead. None of them bothered to bring a paintbrush either

same

if they use ours then they use ours we don't mind that's why we have them , if they refused then that's a different story

I hear,and i respect what your saying, i have a friend and she has an allergy to latex. So she has latex free condom's which she supply's. We all know the score.

For me i play safe. So if i came round to your house without condoms that means I'm looking for some bareback play, and i know and you know that Jonny isn't full proof.

Call me old fashion in a morden world. If i get invited to a party, I'll bring the bottle, although the host would already provided some.

Likewise as a single man, the invite would be sent to me, to come and play. And as its a safe house, should i have some sort of decency in bringing a bottle, sorry i mean a Johnny to the party.

I must say I'm not against bareback for those who want to partake in it. I'm just against those who want to smuggle it in with 'Oh i forgot my johnnys'

But you didn't answer my question. "

Sorry i thought i did. No

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By *ngelsdevilWoman
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?"

I get influenza almost every year, it doesn't kill me and isn't a permanent immune destroying virus with a massive stigma attached. The two don't even compare.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?

I get influenza almost every year, it doesn't kill me and isn't a permanent immune destroying virus with a massive stigma attached. The two don't even compare. "

Blimey you should have a flu vaccination yearly, it can't be much fun. I have had flu twice in my life and it really was very unpleasant, taking six weeks to fully recover.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?"

As I just said there is a vaccination available against flu so I don't think it's comparable.

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By *ngelsdevilWoman
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?

I get influenza almost every year, it doesn't kill me and isn't a permanent immune destroying virus with a massive stigma attached. The two don't even compare.

Blimey you should have a flu vaccination yearly, it can't be much fun. I have had flu twice in my life and it really was very unpleasant, taking six weeks to fully recover."

It's not nice but I do get to take time off work! so that's always a bonus!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?

I get influenza almost every year, it doesn't kill me and isn't a permanent immune destroying virus with a massive stigma attached. The two don't even compare.

Blimey you should have a flu vaccination yearly, it can't be much fun. I have had flu twice in my life and it really was very unpleasant, taking six weeks to fully recover.

It's not nice but I do get to take time off work! so that's always a bonus!

Have you considered the vaccination yearly?

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By *ngelsdevilWoman
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?

I get influenza almost every year, it doesn't kill me and isn't a permanent immune destroying virus with a massive stigma attached. The two don't even compare.

Blimey you should have a flu vaccination yearly, it can't be much fun. I have had flu twice in my life and it really was very unpleasant, taking six weeks to fully recover.

It's not nice but I do get to take time off work! so that's always a bonus!

Have you considered the vaccination yearly?"

It seems to be everyone I know who does get it complains that they feel lousy for a week anyway so I've never bothered! Call me crazy!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its a problem on here, when you see someones profile saying they prefer bare back and have hundreds of verifications, not showing them all of course, then you get messages from the people who have met them.

one of my biggest worrys is catching HIV. Lots of older men cant keep an errection if they use a condom.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?

I get influenza almost every year, it doesn't kill me and isn't a permanent immune destroying virus with a massive stigma attached. The two don't even compare.

Blimey you should have a flu vaccination yearly, it can't be much fun. I have had flu twice in my life and it really was very unpleasant, taking six weeks to fully recover.

It's not nice but I do get to take time off work! so that's always a bonus!

Have you considered the vaccination yearly?

It seems to be everyone I know who does get it complains that they feel lousy for a week anyway so I've never bothered! Call me crazy!! "

I'm not belittling your illnesses but if feeling lousy for a week is a worse alternative then you haven't experienced genuine influenza. Incidentally I have a yearly flu vaccination and the worst side effect I ever have is a sore arm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"its a problem on here, when you see someones profile saying they prefer bare back and have hundreds of verifications, not showing them all of course, then you get messages from the people who have met them.

one of my biggest worrys is catching HIV. Lots of older men cant keep an errection if they use a condom."

Yes, I agree, mine to, though I don't have any problem with the last bit about condoms (yet, lol) if anything it makes me harder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?

I get influenza almost every year, it doesn't kill me and isn't a permanent immune destroying virus with a massive stigma attached. The two don't even compare. "

You are comparing influenza with HIV/aids? Ok.

Statistically the chance of catching aids is 1:1,000,000. And you get flu every year?

There is a lot of debate over how many are directly killed by flu each year but even the very lowest figures make it a greater killer than AIDS. The BBC reports 4000 deaths against a HIV mortality of circa 400.

In 2012 1% of those living with HIV/aids died. Interestingly that is about the same rate as the normal population.

The thing about influenza is it can infect people you never meet.

But a key point you raise is in your penultimate sentence; "stigma". Once again sexual disease trumps non-sexual in the socially unacceptable lists.

So would you wear a mask and gloves to protect your loved ones from your annual flu?

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By *ngelsdevilWoman
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?

I get influenza almost every year, it doesn't kill me and isn't a permanent immune destroying virus with a massive stigma attached. The two don't even compare.

You are comparing influenza with HIV/aids? Ok.

Statistically the chance of catching aids is 1:1,000,000. And you get flu every year?

In 2012 1% of those living with HIV/aids died. Interestingly that is about the same rate as the normal population.

The thing about influenza is it can infect people you never meet.

But a key point you raise is in your penultimate sentence; "stigma". Once again sexual disease trumps non-sexual in the socially unacceptable lists.

So would you wear a mask and gloves to protect your loved ones from your annual flu? "

No I wouldn't because that's ridiculous, flu lasts for about a week, it hasn't killed me yet and nobody is bothered when I tell them I have it! compare that to HIV.

Tell you what, carry on playing bare and if the situation arises you come back to me and tell me that Flu is worse than HIV.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?

I get influenza almost every year, it doesn't kill me and isn't a permanent immune destroying virus with a massive stigma attached. The two don't even compare.

You are comparing influenza with HIV/aids? Ok.

Statistically the chance of catching aids is 1:1,000,000. And you get flu every year?

In 2012 1% of those living with HIV/aids died. Interestingly that is about the same rate as the normal population.

The thing about influenza is it can infect people you never meet.

But a key point you raise is in your penultimate sentence; "stigma". Once again sexual disease trumps non-sexual in the socially unacceptable lists.

So would you wear a mask and gloves to protect your loved ones from your annual flu?

No I wouldn't because that's ridiculous, flu lasts for about a week, it hasn't killed me yet and nobody is bothered when I tell them I have it! compare that to HIV.

Tell you what, carry on playing bare and if the situation arises you come back to me and tell me that Flu is worse than HIV.

flu doesn't last a week, you are getting flu mixed up with a bad cold I'm afraid. Influenza puts you on your back.

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By *o new WinksMan
over a year ago

BSE

Which leads us back on point

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By *ngelsdevilWoman
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?

I get influenza almost every year, it doesn't kill me and isn't a permanent immune destroying virus with a massive stigma attached. The two don't even compare.

Blimey you should have a flu vaccination yearly, it can't be much fun. I have had flu twice in my life and it really was very unpleasant, taking six weeks to fully recover.

It's not nice but I do get to take time off work! so that's always a bonus!

Have you considered the vaccination yearly?

It seems to be everyone I know who does get it complains that they feel lousy for a week anyway so I've never bothered! Call me crazy!!

I have and if I get a sick note for work out of it it's worth it for me! I like my immune system to fight things off if it can, I don't take Abti biotics for things either, just a personal preference!

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over a year ago

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By *ngelsdevilWoman
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?

I get influenza almost every year, it doesn't kill me and isn't a permanent immune destroying virus with a massive stigma attached. The two don't even compare.

You are comparing influenza with HIV/aids? Ok.

Statistically the chance of catching aids is 1:1,000,000. And you get flu every year?

In 2012 1% of those living with HIV/aids died. Interestingly that is about the same rate as the normal population.

The thing about influenza is it can infect people you never meet.

But a key point you raise is in your penultimate sentence; "stigma". Once again sexual disease trumps non-sexual in the socially unacceptable lists.

So would you wear a mask and gloves to protect your loved ones from your annual flu?

No I wouldn't because that's ridiculous, flu lasts for about a week, it hasn't killed me yet and nobody is bothered when I tell them I have it! compare that to HIV.

Tell you what, carry on playing bare and if the situation arises you come back to me and tell me that Flu is worse than HIV.

flu doesn't last a week, you are getting flu mixed up with a bad cold I'm afraid. Influenza puts you on your back."

That's somthing you'd have to take up with my doctor I'm afraid, I'm no medical professional but at the same time I don't care if it lasts a week or a month nobody in their right mind would think flu is the same as HIV and if they do they can face the consequences if it happens to them through their own recklessness. I for one would never put myself in the position to meet with someone off a swinging site who has plenty of veris and openly barebacks! But that's my choice! And my opinion!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well even tho its ur shoice not to have it, u seem to have many opinions of those that likes it.. as you say personal choice

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

flu doesn't last a week, you are getting flu mixed up with a bad cold I'm afraid. Influenza puts you on your back.

Flu and HIV can't really be used as a comparison so I'm not suggesting that one is worse or better than any other. I know that they are both potential killers and that you can protect yourself from them up to a point one way or another.

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By *ngelsdevilWoman
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Well even tho its ur shoice not to have it, u seem to have many opinions of those that likes it.. as you say personal choice

I'm making a point that HIV is a serious thing.

You do what you want in your life and put yourself at risk if you choose too but don't be putting others at risk is all I'm saying! Yes I definitely think barebacking is dangerous reckless foolish behaviour but if you want to do it go ahead nobody's stopping you!

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By *ngelsdevilWoman
over a year ago

Merseyside

flu doesn't last a week, you are getting flu mixed up with a bad cold I'm afraid. Influenza puts you on your back.

As I said, comparing flu and HIV is ridiculous, I'm not condoning it at all!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should we permanently wear face masks and wear rubber gloves to prevent the spread of influenza which kills far more people every year than any sti?

I get influenza almost every year, it doesn't kill me and isn't a permanent immune destroying virus with a massive stigma attached. The two don't even compare.

You are comparing influenza with HIV/aids? Ok.

Statistically the chance of catching aids is 1:1,000,000. And you get flu every year?

In 2012 1% of those living with HIV/aids died. Interestingly that is about the same rate as the normal population.

The thing about influenza is it can infect people you never meet.

But a key point you raise is in your penultimate sentence; "stigma". Once again sexual disease trumps non-sexual in the socially unacceptable lists.

So would you wear a mask and gloves to protect your loved ones from your annual flu?

No I wouldn't because that's ridiculous, flu lasts for about a week, it hasn't killed me yet and nobody is bothered when I tell them I have it! compare that to HIV.

Tell you what, carry on playing bare and if the situation arises you come back to me and tell me that Flu is worse than HIV.

It has not killed you, but elderly friends and relatives may die in the future.

I have not said I play bareback? Why accuse me of that with no evidence? I am just contrasting society's view of sexual diseases with socially unstigmatised ones.

"She died of Aids!" "The slut! Got what she deserved"

"She died if flu" "oh the poor thing. How terrible!"