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"Should i feel guilty for indulging with a married woman who keeps it from her partner? I'm not oblivious to how it could feel happening to me someday. Is it...'what they don't know won't kill them' type thoughts or walking away and maintaining my confidence in the fact i'm just one hell of a fantastic guy? Decisions, decisions! " What I would say is that you never know how someone will react. People can be animals to, so the other fella may not care too much on your point of _iew. He may just bring his claw hammer to the party. Protect yourself and reach for the unattached. Morals maybe subjective, but it's not your opinion or hers that will matter if he takes it badly. | |||
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"We're great believers in " What goes around comes around" so bearing that in mind we'd never play with cheats but each to their own." What you do is your business mate but it will hit the fan inevitably | |||
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"As two adults you should be perfectly capable of making a decision based on the situation but being fully aware of the consequences. As ever any opinion on here is devoid of the full facts only you know those." But even they don't have the full facts. The fact could be that the husband is out doing the same and looking for a reason to drop his wife. He could be devoted and never find out. He could go off the rails and kill them both. He could be in on it and it's a private thrill for both wife and hubby to have another man thinking the wife is cheating. No one ever has the full facts, but it's great for a talking point. I've known after the fact that we swung with a couple who were not with their partners. Thankfully for us we could walk away from that. | |||
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"Its all fun until the shit hits the fan which it inevitably does,but then the consequences will be worse for her I would imagine,unless her hubby wants to hunt you down " I disagree here, I've been seeing a married man for 10 years now. He wasn't married when we 1st met. We're good friends but it's a purely sexual based friendship. I don't want anything more then we have from him, I've known the score since the 1st meeting that he was attached but it just works. So these things don't always lead to angry spouses hunting you down. We've discussed this at length and he says he loves his wife, likes being married but they have very mismatched sex drives. So where is the harm in him fulfilling his physical need elsewhere? OP If you both know the rules, are honest with each other from the outset and respect the boundaries, enjoy yourself. Not all cheating people are the evil villeins they are made out to be on here. | |||
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"I am single and love to see married women.. the thrill is exciting ." And the lives you help destory are worth it ? | |||
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"I am single and love to see married women.. the thrill is exciting . And the lives you help destory are worth it ? " Not all extra marital affairs destroy lives. | |||
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"I am single and love to see married women.. the thrill is exciting . And the lives you help destory are worth it ? " | |||
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"I am single and love to see married women.. the thrill is exciting . And the lives you help destory are worth it ? " I dont schose them, they come to me, I see it that way, so not my fault lol x. | |||
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"Its all fun until the shit hits the fan which it inevitably does,but then the consequences will be worse for her I would imagine,unless her hubby wants to hunt you down I disagree here, I've been seeing a married man for 10 years now. He wasn't married when we 1st met. We're good friends but it's a purely sexual based friendship. I don't want anything more then we have from him, I've known the score since the 1st meeting that he was attached but it just works. So these things don't always lead to angry spouses hunting you down. We've discussed this at length and he says he loves his wife, likes being married but they have very mismatched sex drives. So where is the harm in him fulfilling his physical need elsewhere? OP If you both know the rules, are honest with each other from the outset and respect the boundaries, enjoy yourself. Not all cheating people are the evil villeins they are made out to be on here. " That's fine, but that is assuming the wife as in your case never finds out. IF she did find out, she is not included in the little arrangement and so may take it badly. I'm not telling him to feel guilty, just pointing out that not all affairs stay hidden, not matter how good people think they are at hiding it... I know of an affair going on, if I had motivation to stir up trouble I could and it would ruin the lives of those involved. They can't predict whether I would say anything. Hell they don't even know that I know. So just like the safe sex threads, there is an element of unknown risk taking. But some people like that. | |||
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"I am single and love to see married women.. the thrill is exciting . And the lives you help destory are worth it ? Not all extra marital affairs destroy lives. " Many would disagree. What pisses me off more are people defending actions that affect a wider circle beyond the swinging world. | |||
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"Its all fun until the shit hits the fan which it inevitably does,but then the consequences will be worse for her I would imagine,unless her hubby wants to hunt you down I disagree here, I've been seeing a married man for 10 years now. He wasn't married when we 1st met. We're good friends but it's a purely sexual based friendship. I don't want anything more then we have from him, I've known the score since the 1st meeting that he was attached but it just works. So these things don't always lead to angry spouses hunting you down. We've discussed this at length and he says he loves his wife, likes being married but they have very mismatched sex drives. So where is the harm in him fulfilling his physical need elsewhere? OP If you both know the rules, are honest with each other from the outset and respect the boundaries, enjoy yourself. Not all cheating people are the evil villeins they are made out to be on here. " I couldn't agree more. xx | |||
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"Should i feel guilty for indulging with a married woman who keeps it from her partner? I'm not oblivious to how it could feel happening to me someday. Is it...'what they don't know won't kill them' type thoughts or walking away and maintaining my confidence in the fact i'm just one hell of a fantastic guy? Decisions, decisions! " Yes feel guilty. | |||
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"I am single and love to see married women.. the thrill is exciting . And the lives you help destory are worth it ? Not all extra marital affairs destroy lives. Many would disagree. What pisses me off more are people defending actions that affect a wider circle beyond the swinging world. " Love is about trust and if you cheat you are betraying that trust whether you get found out or not. How can someone cheat and not feel guilt?? I really can't understand that. Isn't the lack of guilt basically saying all you care about is you? | |||
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"I am single and love to see married women.. the thrill is exciting . And the lives you help destory are worth it ? Not all extra marital affairs destroy lives. Many would disagree. What pisses me off more are people defending actions that affect a wider circle beyond the swinging world. " They have a point in that not all extra martial affairs do destroy lives. But it's completely unknown as to which ones will? People talk about being careful, but you just never know. You can have a successful (if you want to call it that) affair for 20, 30 40 years. But the day it goes wrong, is when they find out if it was worth it. To compare it to swinging, well we know there are things in the swinging world out of our control and we all go in eyes wide open that certain things whilst unlikely, may still happen. With an affair the issue is there is a party involved who does not know and likely does not want to be involved. A bit like being married to a gambler and not knowing it. The gamble may get through it fine, or he may build up loans against everyone involved and when the other partner finds out the fun stops and it comes crashing down. | |||
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"I am single and love to see married women.. the thrill is exciting . And the lives you help destory are worth it ? Not all extra marital affairs destroy lives. Many would disagree. What pisses me off more are people defending actions that affect a wider circle beyond the swinging world. Love is about trust and if you cheat you are betraying that trust whether you get found out or not. How can someone cheat and not feel guilt?? I really can't understand that. Isn't the lack of guilt basically saying all you care about is you?" Well said ! Affairs are the product of an inability to communicate, selfishness and dishonesty. If you enter into a relationship and then change the rules don't try and defend your actions | |||
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"I am single and love to see married women.. the thrill is exciting . And the lives you help destory are worth it ? Not all extra marital affairs destroy lives. Many would disagree. What pisses me off more are people defending actions that affect a wider circle beyond the swinging world. Love is about trust and if you cheat you are betraying that trust whether you get found out or not. How can someone cheat and not feel guilt?? I really can't understand that. Isn't the lack of guilt basically saying all you care about is you? Well said ! Affairs are the product of an inability to communicate, selfishness and dishonesty. If you enter into a relationship and then change the rules don't try and defend your actions" Of course he could just be rolling a hand grenade in the forum to see how it goes off??? | |||
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"I am single and love to see married women.. the thrill is exciting . And the lives you help destory are worth it ? Not all extra marital affairs destroy lives. Many would disagree. What pisses me off more are people defending actions that affect a wider circle beyond the swinging world. Love is about trust and if you cheat you are betraying that trust whether you get found out or not. How can someone cheat and not feel guilt?? I really can't understand that. Isn't the lack of guilt basically saying all you care about is you? Well said ! Affairs are the product of an inability to communicate, selfishness and dishonesty. If you enter into a relationship and then change the rules don't try and defend your actions Of course he could just be rolling a hand grenade in the forum to see how it goes off???" If that is the case, he should take his partner out the box and inflate her. Add lube and crack on | |||
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"Wow...Guilt. Unfortunately not a choice i'm faced with...real guilt is a natural reaction. Fact i've asked the question should already indicate i'm aware of how it will make me feel and my minds made up already not to go near here. Nice to gauge opinion though, shame half the posts were more about 'destroying lives' than my point of actually looking at yourself when taking part in something that could cause others hurt! Nite folks " Getting the pump out ? | |||
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"Wow...Guilt. Unfortunately not a choice i'm faced with...real guilt is a natural reaction. Fact i've asked the question should already indicate i'm aware of how it will make me feel and my minds made up already not to go near here. Nice to gauge opinion though, shame half the posts were more about 'destroying lives' than my point of actually looking at yourself when taking part in something that could cause others hurt! Nite folks Getting the pump out ?" lol | |||
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" They have a point in that not all extra martial affairs do destroy lives. But it's completely unknown as to which ones will? People talk about being careful, but yo To compare it to swinging, well we know there are things in the swinging world out of our control and we all go in eyes wide open that certain things whilst unlikely, may still happen. With an affair the issue is there is a party involved who does not know and likely does not want to be involved. A bit like being married to a gambler and not knowing it. The gamble may get through it fine, or he may build up loans against everyone involved and when the other partner finds out the fun stops and it comes crashing down. " | |||
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"We're great believers in " What goes around comes around" so bearing that in mind we'd never play with cheats but each to their own." i feel the same. | |||
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"Its all fun until the shit hits the fan which it inevitably does,but then the consequences will be worse for her I would imagine,unless her hubby wants to hunt you down I disagree here, I've been seeing a married man for 10 years now. He wasn't married when we 1st met. We're good friends but it's a purely sexual based friendship. I don't want anything more then we have from him, I've known the score since the 1st meeting that he was attached but it just works. So these things don't always lead to angry spouses hunting you down. We've discussed this at length and he says he loves his wife, likes being married but they have very mismatched sex drives. So where is the harm in him fulfilling his physical need elsewhere? OP If you both know the rules, are honest with each other from the outset and respect the boundaries, enjoy yourself. Not all cheating people are the evil villeins they are made out to be on here. " Does his wife know about you? | |||
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"Wow...Guilt. Unfortunately not a choice i'm faced with...real guilt is a natural reaction. Fact i've asked the question should already indicate i'm aware of how it will make me feel and my minds made up already not to go near here. Nice to gauge opinion though, shame half the posts were more about 'destroying lives' than my point of actually looking at yourself when taking part in something that could cause others hurt! Nite folks " I didn't get that from your original post to be honest. | |||
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"Its all fun until the shit hits the fan which it inevitably does,but then the consequences will be worse for her I would imagine,unless her hubby wants to hunt you down I disagree here, I've been seeing a married man for 10 years now. He wasn't married when we 1st met. We're good friends but it's a purely sexual based friendship. I don't want anything more then we have from him, I've known the score since the 1st meeting that he was attached but it just works. So these things don't always lead to angry spouses hunting you down. Where is the harm???? Omg. Obviously I don't know any details other than you said. If the wife doesn't know about you meeting then you can't possibly still say where is the harm!! If she knows and is happy then fine. We've discussed this at length and he says he loves his wife, likes being married but they have very mismatched sex drives. So where is the harm in him fulfilling his physical need elsewhere? OP If you both know the rules, are honest with each other from the outset and respect the boundaries, enjoy yourself. Not all cheating people are the evil villeins they are made out to be on here. " | |||
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"We're great believers in " What goes around comes around" so bearing that in mind we'd never play with cheats but each to their own. What you do is your business mate but it will hit the fan inevitably " Lots of people seem to get away with cheating. its ok if they dont find out isnt it. | |||
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" Does his wife know about you?" Officially no, but I get the feeling it's a case of she does and the arrangement works for her as I'm no threat and not looking to split up what they have. I've had relationships on the 10 years we've been seeing each other and when I'm in one, it becomes purely a virtual friendship & I don't meet him. | |||
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"Should i feel guilty for indulging with a married woman who keeps it from her partner? " --------------------------------------- No. Why should you feel "guilty"? Your married woman who is keeping it from her partner is exercising her own judgement and has made her decision. And you and the lady are merely exercising your joint judgement in swinging together. I've often been in the same situation, and its always been terrific sex. Go for it! We're all doing it. | |||
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"Should i feel guilty for indulging with a married woman who keeps it from her partner? --------------------------------------- No. Why should you feel "guilty"? Your married woman who is keeping it from her partner is exercising her own judgement and has made her decision. And you and the lady are merely exercising your joint judgement in swinging together. I've often been in the same situation, and its always been terrific sex. Go for it! We're all doing it. " Surley this is not swinging? Rather an affair between a married woman and a man who has nothing to lose so cares not who gets hurt. I would hold the 3rd party, in this case the male, as guilty as the woman. Just my personal thoughts. | |||
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"Its all fun until the shit hits the fan which it inevitably does,but then the consequences will be worse for her I would imagine,unless her hubby wants to hunt you down I disagree here, I've been seeing a married man for 10 years now. He wasn't married when we 1st met. We're good friends but it's a purely sexual based friendship. I don't want anything more then we have from him, I've known the score since the 1st meeting that he was attached but it just works. So these things don't always lead to angry spouses hunting you down. We've discussed this at length and he says he loves his wife, likes being married but they have very mismatched sex drives. So where is the harm in him fulfilling his physical need elsewhere? OP If you both know the rules, are honest with each other from the outset and respect the boundaries, enjoy yourself. Not all cheating people are the evil villeins they are made out to be on here. " Shes not aware you exist so its all happy in your little world | |||
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"Should i feel guilty for indulging with a married woman who keeps it from her partner? --------------------------------------- No. Why should you feel "guilty"? Your married woman who is keeping it from her partner is exercising her own judgement and has made her decision. And you and the lady are merely exercising your joint judgement in swinging together. I've often been in the same situation, and its always been terrific sex. Go for it! We're all doing it. Surley this is not swinging? Rather an affair between a married woman and a man who has nothing to lose so cares not who gets hurt. I would hold the 3rd party, in this case the male, as guilty as the woman. Just my personal thoughts. " -------------------------------------- Mmmm... I must admit that I thought that the originator was talking about his swinging with a married woman who swings too, and thats why his thread was on Fab. And we're all on this site because we swing, with or without others' approvals. Raises an interesting question though about swinging couples. If both swing, are they restricted to swinging partners that both approve of ... or are they independent in their choices of swinging partners. Very complex, I'm glad I'm a single guy. | |||
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"Should i feel guilty for indulging with a married woman who keeps it from her partner? --------------------------------------- No. Why should you feel "guilty"? Your married woman who is keeping it from her partner is exercising her own judgement and has made her decision. And you and the lady are merely exercising your joint judgement in swinging together. I've often been in the same situation, and its always been terrific sex. Go for it! We're all doing it. Surley this is not swinging? Rather an affair between a married woman and a man who has nothing to lose so cares not who gets hurt. I would hold the 3rd party, in this case the male, as guilty as the woman. Just my personal thoughts. -------------------------------------- Mmmm... I must admit that I thought that the originator was talking about his swinging with a married woman who swings too, and thats why his thread was on Fab. And we're all on this site because we swing, with or without others' approvals. Raises an interesting question though about swinging couples. If both swing, are they restricted to swinging partners that both approve of ... or are they independent in their choices of swinging partners. Very complex, I'm glad I'm a single guy. " The married woman isn't swinging ffs she's cheating! | |||
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"So why's this thread on a Swinging site, if its not about swinging? " I am quite sure that this thread is nothing to do with swinging. Swinging can only happen between two people in an established relationship. Single persons enhance the 'lifestyle' but are not ' swingers ' by definintion. Whilst I enjoy the single men and women, they are simply a cash cow for swinging establishments to earn a living from. I find that to make such a statement usually provokes a disproportional response from single people defending their stance/belief as their very status as as 'swinger' is brought in to question. From my experience, a growing proportion of alleged single men are in fact living a lie and see swinging as a way to get sex. They will pursue this need, often recklessly and without a second thought for the person they target, as long as they get to ejaculate into/onto somebody. The common arguement is the 'evolution ' of swinging. This is simply a lame way of manipulating a lifestyle to suit ones own purpose. Would single straight guys muscle in on a gay pride march. Twisting and distorting the bounderies to suit them ? Single people.....happy you are here you really do enhance the experience but keep your affairs and married person hunting away from the swinging ethos. | |||
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"So why's this thread on a Swinging site, if its not about swinging? " Because threads can be about anything at all as long as it's legal | |||
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"Can not help feeling the single guys on this post don't seem to be swingers just singles looking to get there leg over !! " --------------------------------------- No .... we're just being altruistic. But I like your comment .... but if that's so, shouldn't the scope include married guys too .... or are they just being altruistic. If that's so, wow ... none of the guys on here are interested in getting their leg over. I'm a majority of one | |||
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"Can not help feeling the single guys on this post don't seem to be swingers just singles looking to get there leg over !! " I joined the site with the intention of getting my leg over... | |||
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"Can not help feeling the single guys on this post don't seem to be swingers just singles looking to get there leg over !! I joined the site with the intention of getting my leg over... " Funny that because so did we. | |||
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"Can not help feeling the single guys on this post don't seem to be swingers just singles looking to get there leg over !! I joined the site with the intention of getting my leg over... " Me too.....oh and I am how bizarre!! | |||
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"Can not help feeling the single guys on this post don't seem to be swingers just singles looking to get there leg over !! --------------------------------------- No .... we're just being altruistic. But I like your comment .... but if that's so, shouldn't the scope include married guys too .... or are they just being altruistic. If that's so, wow ... none of the guys on here are interested in getting their leg over. I'm a majority of one " I didn't know altruism was a synonym for selfishness | |||
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"In my opinion, what I do is my responsibility and what my partners do is their responsibility. I would sleep with a married woman, what's more I would get a kick out of it. As for why she might do it or how she justifies it, I leave this to her. That said, there was one potential meet from another site which I had to decline as it seemed akin to walking in to a car crash. It was emotionally charged and quite messy, so I do appear able to draw a line somewhere." I am sure the husband of the married woman would get a kick out of kicking you | |||
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"In my opinion, what I do is my responsibility and what my partners do is their responsibility. I would sleep with a married woman, what's more I would get a kick out of it. As for why she might do it or how she justifies it, I leave this to her. That said, there was one potential meet from another site which I had to decline as it seemed akin to walking in to a car crash. It was emotionally charged and quite messy, so I do appear able to draw a line somewhere. I am sure the husband of the married woman would get a kick out of kicking you " Quite possibly! | |||
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"Can not help feeling the single guys on this post don't seem to be swingers just singles looking to get there leg over !! --------------------------------------- No .... we're just being altruistic. But I like your comment .... but if that's so, shouldn't the scope include married guys too .... or are they just being altruistic. If that's so, wow ... none of the guys on here are interested in getting their leg over. I'm a majority of one I didn't know altruism was a synonym for selfishness " ------------------------------------- Mmmm... selflessness, not selfishness ... and altruism (selflessness) is an antonym, not a synonym, of selfishness. Go on ... you were joking with me, weren't you? Yours, pedantically, Mike | |||
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"Apostrophe crime! Wives, no apostrophe!" A wife's not wives plural maybe? | |||
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"In my opinion, what I do is my responsibility and what my partners do is their responsibility. I would sleep with a married woman, what's more I would get a kick out of it. As for why she might do it or how she justifies it, I leave this to her. That said, there was one potential meet from another site which I had to decline as it seemed akin to walking in to a car crash. It was emotionally charged and quite messy, so I do appear able to draw a line somewhere. I am sure the husband of the married woman would get a kick out of kicking you " My husband badly wanted to catch me cheating. He tried everything possible. I think I was a disappointment to him | |||
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"Can not help feeling the single guys on this post don't seem to be swingers just singles looking to get there leg over !! --------------------------------------- No .... we're just being altruistic. But I like your comment .... but if that's so, shouldn't the scope include married guys too .... or are they just being altruistic. If that's so, wow ... none of the guys on here are interested in getting their leg over. I'm a majority of one I didn't know altruism was a synonym for selfishness ------------------------------------- Mmmm... selflessness, not selfishness ... and altruism (selflessness) is an antonym, not a synonym, of selfishness. Go on ... you were joking with me, weren't you? Yours, pedantically, Mike " So you maintain you only get hard to provide ermmm something for wanting and wanton women? | |||
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"I am single and love to see married women.. the thrill is exciting . And the lives you help destory are worth it ? Not all extra marital affairs destroy lives. " True. Nothing is ever black and white | |||
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"Should i feel guilty for indulging with a married woman who keeps it from her partner? I'm not oblivious to how it could feel happening to me someday. Is it...'what they don't know won't kill them' type thoughts or walking away and maintaining my confidence in the fact i'm just one hell of a fantastic guy? Decisions, decisions! What I would say is that you never know how someone will react. People can be animals to, so the other fella may not care too much on your point of _iew. He may just bring his claw hammer to the party. Protect yourself and reach for the unattached. Morals maybe subjective, but it's not your opinion or hers that will matter if he takes it badly." He may know about it - cuckold scenario? | |||
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"Should i feel guilty for indulging with a married woman who keeps it from her partner? I'm not oblivious to how it could feel happening to me someday. Is it...'what they don't know won't kill them' type thoughts or walking away and maintaining my confidence in the fact i'm just one hell of a fantastic guy? Decisions, decisions! What I would say is that you never know how someone will react. People can be animals to, so the other fella may not care too much on your point of _iew. He may just bring his claw hammer to the party. Protect yourself and reach for the unattached. Morals maybe subjective, but it's not your opinion or hers that will matter if he takes it badly. He may know about it - cuckold scenario?" In which case she is not cheating. | |||
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