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"Not just young men I agree" True - there are crap lovers out there - my concern is that 'porn sex' is so accessible. Maybe if you come across a crap lover we could have a survey to find out if they watch much porn? | |||
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"Not just young men Indeed, a crap lover is a crap lover, regardless of age, just as enough common sense to realise that most women probably don't like being slapped during sex, choked whilst giving oral or having a strangers cock slammed into her anus without property preparation, isn't the exclusive intellectual property of older swingers." Aside from all that it completely dissuades anyone from the idea that the biggest tool is the mind. Apparently all you have to do is turn up and do some stuff! | |||
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"Not just young men Indeed, a crap lover is a crap lover, regardless of age, just as enough common sense to realise that most women probably don't like being slapped during sex, choked whilst giving oral or having a strangers cock slammed into her anus without property preparation, isn't the exclusive intellectual property of older swingers. Aside from all that it completely dissuades anyone from the idea that the biggest tool is the mind. Apparently all you have to do is turn up and do some stuff!" Well I've had a fair few women deep throat me before, that's one way of getting my big tool pretty close to their minds. | |||
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"Not just young men Indeed, a crap lover is a crap lover, regardless of age, just as enough common sense to realise that most women probably don't like being slapped during sex, choked whilst giving oral or having a strangers cock slammed into her anus without property preparation, isn't the exclusive intellectual property of older swingers. Aside from all that it completely dissuades anyone from the idea that the biggest tool is the mind. Apparently all you have to do is turn up and do some stuff! Well I've had a fair few women deep throat me before, that's one way of getting my big tool pretty close to their minds." Slap them across the head for the ultimate connection. | |||
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"Not just young men Indeed, a crap lover is a crap lover, regardless of age, just as enough common sense to realise that most women probably don't like being slapped during sex, choked whilst giving oral or having a strangers cock slammed into her anus without property preparation, isn't the exclusive intellectual property of older swingers. Aside from all that it completely dissuades anyone from the idea that the biggest tool is the mind. Apparently all you have to do is turn up and do some stuff! Well I've had a fair few women deep throat me before, that's one way of getting my big tool pretty close to their minds." I guess the way to a womans heart is through her stomach too! | |||
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"Not just young men Indeed, a crap lover is a crap lover, regardless of age, just as enough common sense to realise that most women probably don't like being slapped during sex, choked whilst giving oral or having a strangers cock slammed into her anus without property preparation, isn't the exclusive intellectual property of older swingers. Aside from all that it completely dissuades anyone from the idea that the biggest tool is the mind. Apparently all you have to do is turn up and do some stuff! Well I've had a fair few women deep throat me before, that's one way of getting my big tool pretty close to their minds. I guess the way to a womans heart is through her stomach too!" Maybe, but as I can't think of a safe way to go through a womans stomach during sex, I simply go in for warm, tender kisses and deep, slow penetration, and catch her heart in a sort of affectionate sexual pincer manoeuvre | |||
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"Not just young men Indeed, a crap lover is a crap lover, regardless of age, just as enough common sense to realise that most women probably don't like being slapped during sex, choked whilst giving oral or having a strangers cock slammed into her anus without property preparation, isn't the exclusive intellectual property of older swingers. Aside from all that it completely dissuades anyone from the idea that the biggest tool is the mind. Apparently all you have to do is turn up and do some stuff! Well I've had a fair few women deep throat me before, that's one way of getting my big tool pretty close to their minds. I guess the way to a womans heart is through her stomach too! Maybe, but as I can't think of a safe way to go through a womans stomach during sex, I simply go in for warm, tender kisses and deep, slow penetration, and catch her heart in a sort of affectionate sexual pincer manoeuvre " of you cad, you! | |||
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"Not just young men Indeed, a crap lover is a crap lover, regardless of age, just as enough common sense to realise that most women probably don't like being slapped during sex, choked whilst giving oral or having a strangers cock slammed into her anus without property preparation, isn't the exclusive intellectual property of older swingers. Aside from all that it completely dissuades anyone from the idea that the biggest tool is the mind. Apparently all you have to do is turn up and do some stuff! Well I've had a fair few women deep throat me before, that's one way of getting my big tool pretty close to their minds." Boom Tish! | |||
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" Anyway enough rambling – just wondered if experiences with the younger guys show a trend or not! " Definitely, though moreso 'out there' than on fabs I think. I think it depends on their innate 'feel' too. Those who don't have much will do what they have seen and go for the camera angle/visual stimulation, rather than the feel of it half the time!! But those who have good feel are obviously much more aware of feedback as well as more sensual themselves, and their style is timeless. Finding them is the key!! | |||
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"There are young men who have their own idea of what they want and are unselfish and want mutual pleasure" Yep. A rare animal though. | |||
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"In short O.P. Yes. Porn is having an effect on attitudes toward sex. If the effects were simply that there was less coyness and more enjoyment then all would be well and good. Porn as it is does much to ensure that women are simply a convenience to shoot on , in , over and certainly not sentient human beings. It's difficult to sometimes be understood on this point due mainly to misogyny and ageism. Most women don't want slapping or having their neck squeezed or hair pulled, or something long and hard rammed roughly down their throats until their faces are red and puffy , their mascara running with the tears and they are unable to breathe. The majority don't want raping or taking roughly up the arse nor will they introduce their sisters or neighbours to men because they are gagging for you. There are far too many anti female scenarios to describe. I'm sure we've all seen them. As long as we continue with the 'nice girls don't do sex' idea that society perpetuates so men can feel safe about their lovely wives and daughters whilst mistreating WHORES,SLAGS,BITCHES and any other label to make vile behaviour more permissable this type of porn will always have the upper hand. Frankly ...... if a bloke NEEDS porn to get a hard on and wank then he's not up to much. Did I say in short ? I know it can be kinky fun for a bloke to dominate and mistreat but he's not exactly having sex he's on a power/ego trip. Likewise women who encourage much of this play are indulging in the psychological element of it. Not so much sex as relationship power balances etc. While im at it ....... Witness the use of social media to threated to rape, multi rape and disfigure women who attempt to have a voice in society , doing their daily job - OUR society...... Since when did that become acceptable ? " I thought it might be... Actually watching game of thrones also seems to reiterate the fact that most women are whores ethos which I think is a shame - I thought we had moved on...clearly not. I am looking forward to the day when sexual equality means that single girls and single guys pay the same to get into a club - then we have achieved something like equality. | |||
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"Woa!! Woa!! Hold your horses Leslie!!!? I refuse to be tarnished with this heavily tarred brush!! Lol Porn has taught me nothing when it comes to the "job". It's allowed me to explore my fetishes further, to pin point exactly what it is that turns me on. But techniques and basic interactions no. I'm a self taught love maker!! Lol On a serious note I know there's problems with youth today take references on how to treat partners by the things they watch. That's something the education system has to deal with. My pennies worth. " Really ? Schools have to do that now too ? What happened to Parents ? | |||
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"Woa!! Woa!! Hold your horses Leslie!!!? I refuse to be tarnished with this heavily tarred brush!! Lol Porn has taught me nothing when it comes to the "job". It's allowed me to explore my fetishes further, to pin point exactly what it is that turns me on. But techniques and basic interactions no. I'm a self taught love maker!! Lol On a serious note I know there's problems with youth today take references on how to treat partners by the things they watch. That's something the education system has to deal with. My pennies worth. " I think that's the point your over 25 - they are the group I worry about as they have had very easy access to porn ! | |||
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"In short O.P. Yes. Porn is having an effect on attitudes toward sex. If the effects were simply that there was less coyness and more enjoyment then all would be well and good. Porn as it is does much to ensure that women are simply a convenience to shoot on , in , over and certainly not sentient human beings. It's difficult to sometimes be understood on this point due mainly to misogyny and ageism. Most women don't want slapping or having their neck squeezed or hair pulled, or something long and hard rammed roughly down their throats until their faces are red and puffy , their mascara running with the tears and they are unable to breathe. The majority don't want raping or taking roughly up the arse nor will they introduce their sisters or neighbours to men because they are gagging for you. There are far too many anti female scenarios to describe. I'm sure we've all seen them. As long as we continue with the 'nice girls don't do sex' idea that society perpetuates so men can feel safe about their lovely wives and daughters whilst mistreating WHORES,SLAGS,BITCHES and any other label to make vile behaviour more permissable this type of porn will always have the upper hand. Frankly ...... if a bloke NEEDS porn to get a hard on and wank then he's not up to much. Did I say in short ? I know it can be kinky fun for a bloke to dominate and mistreat but he's not exactly having sex he's on a power/ego trip. Likewise women who encourage much of this play are indulging in the psychological element of it. Not so much sex as relationship power balances etc. While im at it ....... Witness the use of social media to threated to rape, multi rape and disfigure women who attempt to have a voice in society , doing their daily job - OUR society...... Since when did that become acceptable ? I thought it might be... Actually watching game of thrones also seems to reiterate the fact that most women are whores ethos which I think is a shame - I thought we had moved on...clearly not. I am looking forward to the day when sexual equality means that single girls and single guys pay the same to get into a club - then we have achieved something like equality." Ah..... made me chuckle. Depends on your perspective. Males think they are over charged. Women don't realised they are let in free because they are the fuck pigs in clubs. When women are allowed equality we will all be charged the present male rate x not vice versa | |||
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" Ah..... made me chuckle. Depends on your perspective. Males think they are over charged. Women don't realised they are let in free because they are the fuck pigs in clubs. When women are allowed equality we will all be charged the present male rate x not vice versa " well one would hope somewhere in the middle - but you may be right - but that would mean there was enough demand - and that's the point.. | |||
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"In short O.P. Yes. Porn is having an effect on attitudes toward sex. If the effects were simply that there was less coyness and more enjoyment then all would be well and good. Porn as it is does much to ensure that women are simply a convenience to shoot on , in , over and certainly not sentient human beings. It's difficult to sometimes be understood on this point due mainly to misogyny and ageism. Most women don't want slapping or having their neck squeezed or hair pulled, or something long and hard rammed roughly down their throats until their faces are red and puffy , their mascara running with the tears and they are unable to breathe. The majority don't want raping or taking roughly up the arse nor will they introduce their sisters or neighbours to men because they are gagging for you. There are far too many anti female scenarios to describe. I'm sure we've all seen them. As long as we continue with the 'nice girls don't do sex' idea that society perpetuates so men can feel safe about their lovely wives and daughters whilst mistreating WHORES,SLAGS,BITCHES and any other label to make vile behaviour more permissable this type of porn will always have the upper hand. Frankly ...... if a bloke NEEDS porn to get a hard on and wank then he's not up to much. Did I say in short ? I know it can be kinky fun for a bloke to dominate and mistreat but he's not exactly having sex he's on a power/ego trip. Likewise women who encourage much of this play are indulging in the psychological element of it. Not so much sex as relationship power balances etc. While im at it ....... Witness the use of social media to threated to rape, multi rape and disfigure women who attempt to have a voice in society , doing their daily job - OUR society...... Since when did that become acceptable ? " I accept some people enjoy the demeaning aspects, but I will not tolerate any of it. | |||
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"Yes I do think so... In addition to that though I know that done men feel inadequate what they most see is big cocks and toned bodies... So even if they are very lovely in themselves they compare and to some suffer from sexual self estime issues. A lovely young guy I know who is very pleasurable feels he needs a cock girth widening implant...the only cocks he has seen are in porn... He is perfectly equipt as he is but can't believe it." This is actually a massive thing right now, a lot of physcologists and sexual health folks have been talking about it for the past 4 years. But it doesn't seem to be able to get the exposure that it deserves. | |||
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"I agree.. There is such a false expectation put on both sexes.. " | |||
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"This topic was covered in the recent BBC 3 programme Tyger Takes On Porn. Tyger Honey Drew is the oldr kid on Ournumbered and the son of Ben Dover the porn star. Its well worth watching but does point out the unrealistic expectation levels placed on girls today asa resulr if the uubiquitous porn watched by young men." I watched that programme. Very interesting. Porn and its accessibility has played a major part in how sex is viewed today. | |||
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"This topic was covered in the recent BBC 3 programme Tyger Takes On Porn. Tyger Honey Drew is the oldr kid on Ournumbered and the son of Ben Dover the porn star. Its well worth watching but does point out the unrealistic expectation levels placed on girls today asa resulr if the uubiquitous porn watched by young men." I'd never heard of him until I caught about half of that prog. What a personable young man he is ..... | |||
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"Yes I do think so... In addition to that though I know that done men feel inadequate what they most see is big cocks and toned bodies... So even if they are very lovely in themselves they compare and to some suffer from sexual self estime issues. A lovely young guy I know who is very pleasurable feels he needs a cock girth widening implant...the only cocks he has seen are in porn... He is perfectly equipt as he is but can't believe it. This is actually a massive thing right now, a lot of physcologists and sexual health folks have been talking about it for the past 4 years. But it doesn't seem to be able to get the exposure that it deserves." That's something I always find fascinating about porn. Whilst there are plenty of good looking male pornstars, the emphasis on their looks is nothing like as high as for the women, and thusly you often see guys who would probably go unnoticed in the street having sex with women who would surely be classed as 9s or 10s - why? Because they have big cocks, and can presumably keep them up even when being scrutinised by a camera crew and repeatedly having to stop and start. | |||
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"I learned all I know from porn...even how to grow a moustache..and speak German.." So habe ich,mit ausnahme der schnurrbart | |||
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