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"Say so in your first message or put it on your profile. People can then make an informed choice early on." Agree | |||
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"Damned if you do,damned if you don't really,if you want people to be aware then say it on your profile,some people prefer to meet married men as they feel its safer" I'm married | |||
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"Damned if you do,damned if you don't really,if you want people to be aware then say it on your profile,some people prefer to meet married men as they feel its safer I'm married " So am I | |||
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"Damned if you do,damned if you don't really,if you want people to be aware then say it on your profile,some people prefer to meet married men as they feel its safer" I've heard that said before, why is that do you think? | |||
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" please inform ur wife tho..when u feel u have to justify why u need to play away" But if he does that she might stop swinging and then all the guys shagging her lose out! | |||
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"Damned if you do,damned if you don't really,if you want people to be aware then say it on your profile,some people prefer to meet married men as they feel its safer I've heard that said before, why is that do you think?" Yeah I have heard it aswell and never understood it | |||
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"Some people feel safer with married meets as they are (sometimes) less likely to become a nuisance/stalker etc I did say, sometimes " Is that true though? I think although I have no evidence to back me up, that if a man or a woman is here as so many claim due to.lack of sex at home, that the chance of becoming emotionally attached to someone willing to provide that warmth and intimacy is greater. | |||
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"Some people feel safer with married meets as they are (sometimes) less likely to become a nuisance/stalker etc I did say, sometimes " But surely if you were to get caught then there would be more chance of trouble? | |||
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"Some people feel safer with married meets as they are (sometimes) less likely to become a nuisance/stalker etc I did say, sometimes " Oh ps yes "sometimes" | |||
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"Some people feel safer with married meets as they are (sometimes) less likely to become a nuisance/stalker etc I did say, sometimes Is that true though? I think although I have no evidence to back me up, that if a man or a woman is here as so many claim due to.lack of sex at home, that the chance of becoming emotionally attached to someone willing to provide that warmth and intimacy is greater." Good point, but I think 'most times' (that would be bold and underlined if I could lol) the married guys just want a Shag and nothing more. X | |||
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"Some people feel safer with married meets as they are (sometimes) less likely to become a nuisance/stalker etc I did say, sometimes Is that true though? I think although I have no evidence to back me up, that if a man or a woman is here as so many claim due to.lack of sex at home, that the chance of becoming emotionally attached to someone willing to provide that warmth and intimacy is greater." I agree,I don't think that anyone who has a load of emotional baggage along with dealing with the cheating aspect is a safer bet at all,for me it just puts any arrangement on dodgy ground the minute its been made,too much can go wrong because of the secrecy aspect so I avoid getting involved from the off | |||
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"Some people feel safer with married meets as they are (sometimes) less likely to become a nuisance/stalker etc I did say, sometimes But surely if you were to get caught then there would be more chance of trouble?" For Him, yes, not us. | |||
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"Some people feel safer with married meets as they are (sometimes) less likely to become a nuisance/stalker etc I did say, sometimes Is that true though? I think although I have no evidence to back me up, that if a man or a woman is here as so many claim due to.lack of sex at home, that the chance of becoming emotionally attached to someone willing to provide that warmth and intimacy is greater. Good point, but I think 'most times' (that would be bold and underlined if I could lol) the married guys just want a Shag and nothing more. X" Yes and the married women. I do sometimes almost smell neediness in some threads though. | |||
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"Damned if you do,damned if you don't really,if you want people to be aware then say it on your profile,some people prefer to meet married men as they feel its safer I've heard that said before, why is that do you think? Yeah I have heard it aswell and never understood it " A married man wont want to compromise his own position by "outing" a married woman. Simples | |||
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"Some people feel safer with married meets as they are (sometimes) less likely to become a nuisance/stalker etc I did say, sometimes Is that true though? I think although I have no evidence to back me up, that if a man or a woman is here as so many claim due to.lack of sex at home, that the chance of becoming emotionally attached to someone willing to provide that warmth and intimacy is greater." I found the opposite | |||
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"Damned if you do,damned if you don't really,if you want people to be aware then say it on your profile,some people prefer to meet married men as they feel its safer I'm married " Me too x here with full knowledge x | |||
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"Damned if you do,damned if you don't really,if you want people to be aware then say it on your profile,some people prefer to meet married men as they feel its safer I've heard that said before, why is that do you think? Yeah I have heard it aswell and never understood it A married man wont want to compromise his own position by "outing" a married woman. Simples" I really don't see it as being safer,surely there would be more trouble if somebodys partner found out and wanted some form of revenge.Where as somebody who is single doesn't have that baggage or risk. | |||
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"I'm married on paper only. I don't judge. " Good and I don't think anyone else is on this thread. | |||
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"Damned if you do,damned if you don't really,if you want people to be aware then say it on your profile,some people prefer to meet married men as they feel its safer I'm married So am I " So am I!! | |||
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"Some people feel safer with married meets as they are (sometimes) less likely to become a nuisance/stalker etc I did say, sometimes Is that true though? I think although I have no evidence to back me up, that if a man or a woman is here as so many claim due to.lack of sex at home, that the chance of becoming emotionally attached to someone willing to provide that warmth and intimacy is greater. I found the opposite " less chance of becoming emotionally attached? I suppose thinking about it that emotional attachement can strike at any time single or married | |||
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"Damned if you do,damned if you don't really,if you want people to be aware then say it on your profile,some people prefer to meet married men as they feel its safer I'm married So am I So am I!! " me too we both are ....to each other | |||
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"I'm Married and I usually admit it on my first message ! As I think it's only fair ! Is this the best way or should I wait till I've chatted a bit ? I realise some people will just say I'm scum and shouldn't be on here at all !" If people can't take it it is their problem ! | |||
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"Say so in your first message or put it on your profile. People can then make an informed choice early on." | |||
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"Say so in your first message or put it on your profile. People can then make an informed choice early on." I state quite clearly that I'm married in my profile. And a man. And bi. And can't accommodate. | |||
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"Damned if you do,damned if you don't really,if you want people to be aware then say it on your profile,some people prefer to meet married men as they feel its safer" the funny thing is that it is normally married men that fire that gem out the make themselves stand out from the genuinely single guys..... irony being they probably hadn't thought of the potential vengence from the other person finding out...... I tend to think that anything that would be considered to be a big potential "dealbreaker" so go on a profile just so that people are aware going in.... but heck as some people like to tell us "who reads a bloody profile anyway!!" | |||
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"I would hate to be cheated on." like most people. I was and for no other reason than he thought I was cheating on him. Or it could have been an excuse to transfer his guilt. Who knows | |||
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"I would hate to be cheated on. like most people. I was and for no other reason than he thought I was cheating on him. Or it could have been an excuse to transfer his guilt. Who knows" Really do you think that "most people" are cheated on? | |||
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"I'm Married and I usually admit it on my first message ! As I think it's only fair ! Is this the best way or should I wait till I've chatted a bit ? I realise some people will just say I'm scum and shouldn't be on here at all !" Full stops work as well | |||
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"I would hate to be cheated on. like most people. I was and for no other reason than he thought I was cheating on him. Or it could have been an excuse to transfer his guilt. Who knows Really do you think that "most people" are cheated on?" I read it as most people would hate it not that it happens to most. | |||
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"I would hate to be cheated on. like most people. I was and for no other reason than he thought I was cheating on him. Or it could have been an excuse to transfer his guilt. Who knows Really do you think that "most people" are cheated on?" I would like to think no but I'm beginning to think quite a lot more do than I would imagine. From the people I know personally who cheat I feel the men did it for the sheer thrill of it. The women,for the attention they don't get at home. I don't condone it but I understand why they do it. My own husband was paranoid about me cheating but cheated on me. Doesn't make sense does it | |||
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"I would hate to be cheated on. like most people. I was and for no other reason than he thought I was cheating on him. Or it could have been an excuse to transfer his guilt. Who knows Really do you think that "most people" are cheated on? I would like to think no but I'm beginning to think quite a lot more do than I would imagine. From the people I know personally who cheat I feel the men did it for the sheer thrill of it. The women,for the attention they don't get at home. I don't condone it but I understand why they do it. My own husband was paranoid about me cheating but cheated on me. Doesn't make sense does it " No not really | |||
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"I would hate to be cheated on. like most people. I was and for no other reason than he thought I was cheating on him. Or it could have been an excuse to transfer his guilt. Who knows Really do you think that "most people" are cheated on? I read it as most people would hate it not that it happens to most." | |||
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"I'm Married and I usually admit it on my first message ! As I think it's only fair ! Is this the best way or should I wait till I've chatted a bit ? I realise some people will just say I'm scum and shouldn't be on here at all !" I won't meet those attached, cheating or with permission. So I prefer to read it on profiles. | |||
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"I'm Married and I usually admit it on my first message ! As I think it's only fair ! Is this the best way or should I wait till I've chatted a bit ? I realise some people will just say I'm scum and shouldn't be on here at all !" I would tell them at all. Why would you | |||
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"I think you should put it on your profile, but at the end of the day...it's your profile, what you chose to put on is no-one's business but your own. Everyone is here for reasons maybe others don't agree with but each to their own. Some will meet married men/women, some won't. No-one has a right to judge......" sorry but everyone has the right to judge, we all judge everyday and we all have every right to do it, its a way of life. | |||
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" No-one has a right to judge...... sorry but everyone has the right to judge, we all judge everyday and we all have every right to do it, its a way of life." I don't, but maybe that's just me.....if I see something on someone's profile that does not appeal to me I just move on....not my place to judge them | |||
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"We are not here to judge others we are just here for fun. " | |||
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"I think you should put it on your profile, but at the end of the day...it's your profile, what you chose to put on is no-one's business but your own. Everyone is here for reasons maybe others don't agree with but each to their own. Some will meet married men/women, some won't. No-one has a right to judge......" but we all jugde... next time you see someone out in a onesie for example... or a very short skirt on a saturday night.... or what someone looks like.. or sounds like.. or wears... or acts.... just remind yourself of what you said.... for me it's blunt... if someone is prepared to be that dishonest with the person they profess to love more than any other, then just should I be nieve enough to believe that they will be honest with me... its not a judgement... its a brutal assesment | |||
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"I think you should put it on your profile, but at the end of the day...it's your profile, what you chose to put on is no-one's business but your own. Everyone is here for reasons maybe others don't agree with but each to their own. Some will meet married men/women, some won't. No-one has a right to judge...... but we all jugde... next time you see someone out in a onesie for example... or a very short skirt on a saturday night.... or what someone looks like.. or sounds like.. or wears... or acts.... just remind yourself of what you said.... for me it's blunt... if someone is prepared to be that dishonest with the person they profess to love more than any other, then just should I be nieve enough to believe that they will be honest with me... its not a judgement... its a brutal assesment" To judge basically equals to assess or to condemn. I assess as is my right but don't condemn. | |||
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" No-one has a right to judge...... sorry but everyone has the right to judge, we all judge everyday and we all have every right to do it, its a way of life. I don't, but maybe that's just me.....if I see something on someone's profile that does not appeal to me I just move on....not my place to judge them" everyone judges everyday, when you cross a road for example, you are judging it safe to cross, the phrase "no one has a right to judge" is thrown about all over, but is entirely wrong, what you do is choose to ignore things that dont bother you, so if a person cheating doesnt bother you, then you choose to ignore it, it doesnt mean it isnt wrong whatever the reason might be but you choose to ignore it, so you are making your judgement of ignoring it others make theres by not meeting them, everyone makes there judgement in one way or another. | |||
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" everyone judges everyday, when you cross a road for example, you are judging it safe to cross, the phrase "no one has a right to judge" is thrown about all over, but is entirely wrong, what you do is choose to ignore things that dont bother you, so if a person cheating doesnt bother you, then you choose to ignore it, it doesnt mean it isnt wrong whatever the reason might be but you choose to ignore it, so you are making your judgement of ignoring it others make theres by not meeting them, everyone makes there judgement in one way or another." Judging to cross the road for example is entirely different, I'm talking about judging people. I may judge them in my head but I certainly wouldn't voice my opinion, until you have lived that other persons life then I think it's wrong. If that person does not meet your tastes or requirements then move on....done and dusted, if that's how they wish to conduct themselves then good for them | |||
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"I'm Married and I usually admit it on my first message ! As I think it's only fair ! Is this the best way or should I wait till I've chatted a bit ? I realise some people will just say I'm scum and shouldn't be on here at all !" I put it on my profile. | |||
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"Finally someone who does not judge , shame there is not more like you " Not meeting married people doesn't mean taking some moral high ground and judging. Married men are a group I don't play with because they don't meet my play needs. I've had married men ask me not to wear perfume, turn up with perfume their wife wears etc to not leave a scent trail. They're also mindful of being marked...never understood that considering I'm a Domme! Besides, shaved pubes and a temporary tattoo proclaiming "property of Miss Vee" would need some explaining to the wife! | |||
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" everyone judges everyday, when you cross a road for example, you are judging it safe to cross, the phrase "no one has a right to judge" is thrown about all over, but is entirely wrong, what you do is choose to ignore things that dont bother you, so if a person cheating doesnt bother you, then you choose to ignore it, it doesnt mean it isnt wrong whatever the reason might be but you choose to ignore it, so you are making your judgement of ignoring it others make theres by not meeting them, everyone makes there judgement in one way or another. Judging to cross the road for example is entirely different, I'm talking about judging people. I may judge them in my head but I certainly wouldn't voice my opinion, until you have lived that other persons life then I think it's wrong. If that person does not meet your tastes or requirements then move on....done and dusted, if that's how they wish to conduct themselves then good for them" your statement was no one has the right to judge, im explaining how everyone judges including yourself on a daily basis, and even when its in your head you are still judging, even if you are judging to play with a married person, or judging to ignore the fact they are married, the word "judging" or statement "right to judge" only ever comes up when someone complains of people not meeting married/playing away people on a swinging site, it doesnt change the fact every single person has a right to judge whether they want to play with a married person or not and shouldnt have to give reasons why or why not they will or wont, they also shouldnt be told they have no right to judge just because they wont play with someone who is cheating, the simple thing is for marrieds to put it on there profile and let people make an informed decision about who they wish to meet, after all a big part of swinging is openess and honesty. | |||
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"I am lol ! Mind I did start it ! Glad I did and I'm gonna stick to my guns and say straight out !" best way to do it, there are people out there that will play with married people/cheats even on a swinging site. | |||
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"Personally I'm not willing to act as someone else's conscience so I leave those moral decisions to the other party. I would not ever intentionally look for married folk but for us - both as a couple and alone - it's actually been less complicated with those few people we've met who are married when we look at them as a whole. Baggage is something a lot of people have, married or not and meeting with singles is no guarantee you won't have a bumpy ride." | |||
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"I just want to clarify here that some married men have the full consent of their wives to play solo...as long as they tell them everything and abide by certain rules. I would urge the ladies to consider a married man playing solo with consent to be a totally different fish from one who's trying to cover his tracks. Married men, playing with consent, are, I would suggest, the safest of all the NSA options available to women, preferable even over supposedly single men...who may be keeping a certain little secret The only thing I would suggest is that a married man playing with consent would need to be able to prove that firstly by letting the woman in question talk to, and perhaps even meet, his wife. Once this has been done, however, I would say, once again, it's definitely the safest of all the NSA options for a woman...at least from my point of _iew...obviously there are some pretty unkind men out there in abusive relationships so you'd need to steer clear of them." | |||
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"If you can live with not admiting it and play the game, why say it as it might get less offers." Because some people prefer not to meet married/attached men for many reasons so would appreciate honesty from someone who was. | |||
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"If you can live with not admiting it and play the game, why say it as it might get less offers. Because some people prefer not to meet married/attached men for many reasons so would appreciate honesty from someone who was." Yes your right there as well . | |||
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"Some people feel safer with married meets as they are (sometimes) less likely to become a nuisance/stalker etc I did say, sometimes Is that true though? I think although I have no evidence to back me up, that if a man or a woman is here as so many claim due to.lack of sex at home, that the chance of becoming emotionally attached to someone willing to provide that warmth and intimacy is greater." Can most certainly vouch for this. Not to tar anyone with the same brush by any means, however I now choose not to meet married/attached individuals for those reasons. Yes I do realise I am about to be shot down for personal preferrence | |||
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"If you can live with not admiting it and play the game, why say it as it might get less offers. Because some people prefer not to meet married/attached men for many reasons so would appreciate honesty from someone who was." But those people themselves might be on the site for duplicitous reasons...looking to find a mate instead of just looking for NSA fun. Otherwise why would they have a problem playing with married people who had the consent of their partner? | |||
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"If you can live with not admiting it and play the game, why say it as it might get less offers. Because some people prefer not to meet married/attached men for many reasons so would appreciate honesty from someone who was. But those people themselves might be on the site for duplicitous reasons...looking to find a mate instead of just looking for NSA fun. Otherwise why would they have a problem playing with married people who had the consent of their partner?" I'm speaking from my perspective as I want no part of playing with someone else's partner whether they know or not, its just not for me and another preference as we all have on here. I can't speak for others who don't wish to meet married men. | |||
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"I just want to clarify here that some married men have the full consent of their wives to play solo...as long as they tell them everything and abide by certain rules. I would urge the ladies to consider a married man playing solo with consent to be a totally different fish from one who's trying to cover his tracks. Married men, playing with consent, are, I would suggest, the safest of all the NSA options available to women, preferable even over supposedly single men...who may be keeping a certain little secret The only thing I would suggest is that a married man playing with consent would need to be able to prove that firstly by letting the woman in question talk to, and perhaps even meet, his wife. Once this has been done, however, I would say, once again, it's definitely the safest of all the NSA options for a woman...at least from my point of _iew...obviously there are some pretty unkind men out there in abusive relationships so you'd need to steer clear of them. " Agreed, knowing Mr D as I do I know he's a very safe bet for a woman, he's a very light-hearted soul and I have been happy to be available for the female to talk to or meet if the need is there. I'm also fine if they don't want to but in their situation I'd probably want to or piece of mind if the issue of fidelity is important or just to feel safer. Mr D has met my meets for my safety. | |||
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"I want no strings meets, not hassle and grief which is why I choose not to play with attached men full stop." So instead you'd rather play with men who are pretending to be single? Sounds like that's how you got into trouble in the first place Again, I say, there's nothing safer than married people who are playing with the consent of their partner. To brandish them all as trouble is a bit unfair. | |||
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"I want no strings meets, not hassle and grief which is why I choose not to play with attached men full stop. So instead you'd rather play with men who are pretending to be single? Sounds like that's how you got into trouble in the first place Again, I say, there's nothing safer than married people who are playing with the consent of their partner. To brandish them all as trouble is a bit unfair." I asked if he was single and he was dishonest, I'm not a mind reader and I'm not brandishing all of them as trouble, I just choose not to meet them as some on here would choose not to meet squadies or smokers. Its a preference, that's all. | |||
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"I just want to clarify here that some married men have the full consent of their wives to play solo...as long as they tell them everything and abide by certain rules. I would urge the ladies to consider a married man playing solo with consent to be a totally different fish from one who's trying to cover his tracks. Married men, playing with consent, are, I would suggest, the safest of all the NSA options available to women, preferable even over supposedly single men...who may be keeping a certain little secret The only thing I would suggest is that a married man playing with consent would need to be able to prove that firstly by letting the woman in question talk to, and perhaps even meet, his wife. Once this has been done, however, I would say, once again, it's definitely the safest of all the NSA options for a woman...at least from my point of _iew...obviously there are some pretty unkind men out there in abusive relationships so you'd need to steer clear of them." I don't think I would meet one half of a married couple with the other half's consent. Can't really say exactly why, it just would seem weird. | |||
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"I'm Married and I usually admit it on my first message ! As I think it's only fair ! Is this the best way or should I wait till I've chatted a bit ? I realise some people will just say I'm scum and shouldn't be on here at all !" It's too late once you've chatted a bit. Tell them in the first message or on your profile. | |||
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"I'm Married and I usually admit it on my first message ! As I think it's only fair ! Is this the best way or should I wait till I've chatted a bit ? I realise some people will just say I'm scum and shouldn't be on here at all !" OP what would you feel if your wife wanted to swing? | |||
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""I'm Married and I usually admit it on my first message ! As I think it's only fair ! " Do you think it's fair on your wife or do you tell her when you message people - just to be 'fair'??" do u think its fair ur wife loving u to death when u fucking about!!! N if u a women happy to shag a married/ attached man well when u get some lady on ur door kicking off then it'll all be worth it eh :-/ | |||
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"" do u think its fair ur wife loving u to death when u fucking about!!! N if u a women happy to shag a married/ attached man well when u get some lady on ur door kicking off then it'll all be worth it eh :-/ " l How do you know his wife loves him to death??? | |||
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"Say so in your first message or put it on your profile. People can then make an informed choice early on. Agree " Ditto | |||
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"Say so in your first message or put it on your profile. People can then make an informed choice early on. Agree Ditto" I agree. I hate it when I get chatting, red to organise a social then get oh by the way I'm married. .It seriously pisses me off. I have it on my profile as well. | |||
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"Say so in your first message or put it on your profile. People can then make an informed choice early on. Agree Ditto I agree. I hate it when I get chatting, red to organise a social then get oh by the way I'm married. .It seriously pisses me off. I have it on my profile as well. " I thought it was just me that got that!! Had it recently, the day before the meet, a week of wasted time texting and chatting on the phone when its clear on my profile too. | |||
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"its always nice to see different people and how they like to meet different people..I just think married singles cant really add that much to the scene...other than quick fucks. I prefer knowing I can meet someone and know I can spend hours,days etc with them and not be clock watching..or making sure i dont get spotted by someone I know" Well its a good job you're not allowed to write the rule book... Quite frankly you really have no right dictating what's right and what's wrong, your first reply to the OP was a little judgemental But you seem to have a thwarted _iew that the 'swingers' scene should have applicants that meet a certain criteria..that pleases you Man or woman has no right to judge another... Admire your honesty OP.) | |||
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"Why dont they be honest n let their partners go n find someone who aint cheating on fab??? " Maybe you should write your own little rule book too.? | |||
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"I'm Married and I usually admit it on my first message ! As I think it's only fair ! Is this the best way or should I wait till I've chatted a bit ? I realise some people will just say I'm scum and shouldn't be on here at all !" I think that is important information and I would consider it lying by omission if not brought up in the profile or first message | |||
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"its always nice to see different people and how they like to meet different people..I just think married singles cant really add that much to the scene...other than quick fucks. I prefer knowing I can meet someone and know I can spend hours,days etc with them and not be clock watching..or making sure i dont get spotted by someone I know Well its a good job you're not allowed to write the rule book... Quite frankly you really have no right dictating what's right and what's wrong, your first reply to the OP was a little judgemental But you seem to have a thwarted _iew that the 'swingers' scene should have applicants that meet a certain criteria..that pleases you Man or woman has no right to judge another... Admire your honesty OP.)" as I explained earlier in this thread, everyone has a right to judge, its part of life, some people will judge it that they will play with married/cheating people most judge it they wont, the judgemental card is always thrown out when people air there _iews and others dont like these _iews, but when someone chooses to play with a married person/cheat they are judging it, in there _iew ok to do so, are they judgemental?, do they have no right to do that, of course they do it is there choice to do so, as it is for the majority to judge not to play with marrieds/cheats, every single person judges regularly on a daily basis and it is there right to do so. | |||
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"Finally someone who does not judge , shame there is not more like you " We all make judgements based on the facts we are presented with. I judge that I'm more likely to get a scorned wife sending me abusive texts if I have sex with a married man rather than a single man. In my judgement younger men are more likely to sustain an erection than someone in their fifties. I make an informed judgement that I will be more successful if I have a breast picture on my profile. We all judge it is essential to do so in order to minimise risk and succeed in what we do | |||
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"I'm Married and I usually admit it on my first message ! As I think it's only fair ! Is this the best way or should I wait till I've chatted a bit ? I realise some people will just say I'm scum and shouldn't be on here at all !" You are not scum and some people are just 2 faced. Society in general would say that about swingers and they wouldn't like it but happy to put others down. Some wont mind you being attached some will just be honest with people and then they can choose. | |||
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"I'm Married and I usually admit it on my first message ! As I think it's only fair ! Is this the best way or should I wait till I've chatted a bit ? I realise some people will just say I'm scum and shouldn't be on here at all ! You are not scum and some people are just 2 faced. Society in general would say that about swingers and they wouldn't like it but happy to put others down. Some wont mind you being attached some will just be honest with people and then they can choose." What do you mean by some people being two faced? | |||
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