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"Bitter bitter irony at it's finest, one day these forums are about how if, like the gays we were to all just stand up and say "Yes we swing so what" then we would be accepted! Yet today it's a thread slating a woman for doing exactly that, if anything I think it shows that she A: She isnt going to just talk bolox, but say exactly what she has or hasn't done. and B: Shows she is honest.. All our friends know we swing (including work friends)as personaly we couldn't care what people think or say, we break no laws only daft concepts of morality laid down by some bollox religion.." The thing is with this is that I would'nt want my children to read about what we do on the front pages of a sunday tabloid......they don't need to know the details of our private life,just as I don't need to know the details of my parents private life,thats the reason that I think she has acted selfishly....she can swing to her hearts content but do her children need to know about it? | |||
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"Bitter bitter irony at it's finest, one day these forums are about how if, like the gays we were to all just stand up and say "Yes we swing so what" then we would be accepted! " This isn't a peffect world and never will be. Prejudice starts in the playground and anyone deemed different from the norm becomes a target for their individuality. Whilst we'd all love to able to say 'we swing and we like it' and not be judged for it, the realists among us know that is just not going to happen. " Yet today it's a thread slating a woman for doing exactly that, if anything I think it shows that she A: She isnt going to just talk bolox, but say exactly what she has or hasn't done. and B: Shows she is honest.. " I slated her lack of discretion. Not for being a swinger. She had not considered her partners concerns and/or wishes for their private life to ramin private and of he dumps her because of it then it's a rod she made for her own back. I'd also like to add that Alan Sugar is known for disliking anyone who doesn't fit into his mould of what a successful businessperson should be - and in this case, I think he'd frown upon her indiscretion as it is a perfect example of how a businessperson should think before they speak. " All our friends know we swing (including work friends)as personaly we couldn't care what people think or say, we break no laws only daft concepts of morality laid down by some bollox religion.." If you want to shout from the rooftops then that's your business but we're not all like that and prefer our sex lives to be kept private, but to blame it all upon religion is farcical as morality is clearly defined by one's longitude and one's latitude compounded by the date. 300 years ago is was perfectly acceptable for a young girl of 13 to marry - in THIS country, yet now it is not, yet in other countries it is still normal practice - so where is the morality here? who was right and who is wrong? us back then? us now? them now? Religion gives us a set of guidelines, extremists take those guidelines and blur them into indoctrination. Luckily in the West we have the right to speak freely and act freely so long as it harms nobody else... and in the case of Lorraine Tighe, she may well have hurt her children (who face being victimised in the playground for having a 'different' sort of mum) and she may have damaged her partner's reputation for exposing his secret swinging lifestyle by her loose talk. | |||
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" "the realists among us know that is just not going to happen"" The rallying cry of those to scared to stand up throughout history, only to be left standing shocked when others ignored them causing such changes to follow.. eg: Black rights Gay sex being legalized Women geting the vote | |||
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"I don't know but I would guess that she had little or no choice about coming out. Knowing how the tabloids work they probably found out, contacted her and told her that they were going to publish it and suggested to her that she did a story with them puting her side across. " hmm yeah the new European human rights laws say that it has to be in the public interest to out people like her ...difficult to see how this is the public interest really.But with a puppet regulatory body run by the very people its meant to regulate ..until we get new laws whereby a victim has to be given time to get an injunction prior to a story ...lives will continue to be wrecked . | |||
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" "the realists among us know that is just not going to happen" The rallying cry of those to scared to stand up throughout history, only to be left standing shocked when others ignored them causing such changes to follow.. eg: Black rights Gay sex being legalized Women geting the vote" The three examples you've just stated ALL carry a heavy price with them. How many black people died before they were given equal rights under the law? How many gay people were beaten mercilessly, sometimes to death, only to find that when they reported such attacks the police laughed at them? How many siffered before they were given protection under the law? How many women sacrificed themselves upon the altar of liberation before they were taken seriously and given the vote? So by that same token, how many swingers need to die before they are allowed to be sexually free? Sounds extreme doesn't it. Of course, swingers are not going to get beaten up in dim alleyways nor have their human rights revoked because of how they choose to conduct their sex lives. Society has already accepted that swingers exist and have the right to have sex with whomever they please. The existence of swingers clubs is proof that the govt do not see swinging as a threat to morality so it is really neccessary to scream out loud that you are a swinger? The real problem with swinging is with those who DO shout out loud about it. Non swinging folk may accept that swinging exists but do they really want to know the details about it or have it rammed down their throats all the time (pun intended). It sounds very much like some people want to tell the world they are a swinger simply for the attention. | |||
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" "Society has already accepted that swingers exist and have the right to have sex with whomever they please. The existence of swingers clubs is proof that the govt do not see swinging as a threat to morality" " She didn't shout it out, she was at a night out and it was latter leeked to tabloids by an insider.. Today it was in the News of the World (barely a news paper), hardly a shout out to the world, as your statement above points out, most of society couldn't give a damn and it's accepted that people may sleep with who ever they choose, personaly i'm glad to see a headline that finaly isn't about jade fecking goody! | |||
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" "Society has already accepted that swingers exist and have the right to have sex with whomever they please. The existence of swingers clubs is proof that the govt do not see swinging as a threat to morality" She didn't shout it out, she was at a night out and it was latter leeked to tabloids by an insider.. Today it was in the News of the World (barely a news paper), hardly a shout out to the world, as your statement above points out, most of society couldn't give a damn and it's accepted that people may sleep with who ever they choose, personaly i'm glad to see a headline that finaly isn't about jade fecking goody!" She propositioned a fellow contestant on The Apprentice. That's hardly indiscrete is it and when The NOTW ran the story she was more than happy to give them an interview too. I read the article and was most definately given in the 1st person context - the words were hers - so she wasn't 'outed' by anyone but herself. Your last statement really gives an insight into how you view the world. Whether one liked Jade Goody or not while she was alive, to speak of her like you just did is disrepectful to say the least. She did all she could for her boys in the little time she had left and I admire her for it. Put yourself in her situation and then tell me you wouldn't want to earn as much money as possible in as short a time as possible in order to ensure your kids were well looked after when you're gone. | |||
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"So Lorraine Tyhe from The Apprentice is a swinger is she? I've read the story and for someone who is setting herself up as a top businesswoman she has been a little foolish in revealing her secret swinging lifestyle to people who wait with baited breath for ammunition which which to shoot her down. Her own 'company director' boyfirned is dismayed at her lack of discretion as anybody who knows them as a couple will now know he is a swinger by association with her. Besides, having seen photos of her, (never watched the show although Siren likes it), I'm really not turned on by either her looks or her haphazard indiscretion so for me, she's a minger. Over to you." beauties in the eye of the beholder is'nt it? no such thing as a minger they just people you don't find attractive, never seen the show, i have no idea at all who she is, i suppose it was a little daft telling the public if she has children, can see what her looks has to do with it all tho lol | |||
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"Actually is this Lorraine a member on here? Wouldn't know what she looks like as we've never watched apprentice xx j&r " good point if she is havent some of the posts badmouthed her and so shouldnt be allowed ? also is there a definition anywhere of a minger or munter ...i hate the words and always thought they related to looks ... confused of bham ,,, | |||
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"Bit of a minger I think really, but I have shagged her once and she takes it up the bum, but when I had finished, I looked at her and said..."your fired"...she did not laugh, miserable bitch" not really funny after all she is a fellow swinger who has the guts to openly admit it.. What happended to not bad mouthing people | |||
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" I find this woman very unsavoury." Do we assume from that that you know her or is your character assessment based on a few episodes of The Apprentice and a NoW article? | |||
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"I used the term 'minger' simply because it rhymed with 'swinger' - I thought that much was obvious, but I also use minger/minging not to describe someone's physical attributes but more as a description of an unsavoury person as a whole. I find this woman very unsavoury, hence I find her 'minging'." Not as obviously as you thought then, as minger conjures up the words ugly, unattractive etc, as a lot of people thought too. But thanks for explaining. | |||
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"She propositioned a fellow contestant on The Apprentice. That's hardly indiscrete is it and when The NOTW ran the story she was more than happy to give them an interview too. I read the article and was most definately given in the 1st person context - the words were hers - so she wasn't 'outed' by anyone but herself." Would have to disagree with you there. Having just read the story for the first time. Yes all the quotes are in the 1st person but nearly all of the quotes are followed by the phrase "she told her friend" or similar. Based on that i do wonder if she has actually given any interview to NOTW | |||
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