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"leave your wife ..have a clear conscience "Ohhh good heavens I don't want to leave my wife that's certainly not the plan | |||
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"Good luck......with a married and cheating post you're gonna need it" Why do you say that, its not Single or couple towns you know lol, their are just as many "cheating" woman as you put it x | |||
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"Well what are your thoughts, and of course she doesn't know, lets not be naïve xx "How would you feel if your wife had been on here for over a year? think about it  | |||
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"Well what are your thoughts, and of course she doesn't know, lets not be naïve xx How would you feel if your wife had been on here for over a year? think about it " | |||
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"OP are you cheating or is your partner aware of you being on here? " His op says she doesn't know. | |||
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"OP are you cheating or is your partner aware of you being on here? His op says she doesn't know. " Shhh, I wanted him to say it out loud  | |||
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"Would be interested to know how you can be so blasé about cheating on your wife, you've posted the same question several times. How many times do you want to hear that cheating on your wife ain't clever and plain sucks?" | |||
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"Would be interested to know how you can be so blasé about cheating on your wife, you've posted the same question several times. How many times do you want to hear that cheating on your wife ain't clever and plain sucks?" | |||
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"Good luck......with a married and cheating post you're gonna need it Why do you say that, its not Single or couple towns you know lol, their are just as many "cheating" woman as you put it x" Is that your line of defence? | |||
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"I can never understand how people who openly cheating on their other half feel it's ok to call themselves genuine on their profile My definition of genuine os obviously completely different to theirs!"I don't call myself genuine, honest or anything like that on my profile. I just tell everyone I'm married and leave it to you | |||
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"I can never understand how people who openly cheating on their other half feel it's ok to call themselves genuine on their profile My definition of genuine os obviously completely different to theirs!
I don't call myself genuine, honest or anything like that on my profile. I just tell everyone I'm married and leave it to you "Sorry, my original post should have said 'some people' and it wasn't aimed at you in particular!! | |||
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"I can never understand how people who openly cheating on their other half feel it's ok to call themselves genuine on their profile My definition of genuine os obviously completely different to theirs!
I don't call myself genuine, honest or anything like that on my profile. I just tell everyone I'm married and leave it to you
Sorry, my original post should have said 'some people' and it wasn't aimed at you in particular!!"Its ok, i know it wasn't, i was just making my point and i know we married guys aren't popular  | |||
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"some married men are ok. im just grateful to get some with someone who is my type its not always easy." I'd rather go without than have to feel grateful. You've heard of sex toys right? | |||
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"some married men are ok. im just grateful to get some with someone who is my type its not always easy." My god...i thought ladies could be picky on here? | |||
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"ppl that say they dont meet married guys/girls...i would say 100% you have... "To my knowledge I haven't dabbled with any attached guy here. I once had lunch with a guy who was newly separated, and I spent the afternoon advising him to get his relationship back on track. He left the site  . | |||
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"ppl that say they dont meet married guys/girls...i would say 100% you have... "I know for a fact I haven't. 100% | |||
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"I just want to know who this 'Arry is...." It's Flash Arry from St Trinians | |||
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"some married men are ok. im just grateful to get some with someone who is my type its not always easy. My god...i thought ladies could be picky on here?" we can if we want but be too picky and you eliminate everyone. Personally I'm not that picky. I like diversity and I'm not afraid to try someone new. It's like a box of chocolates; I only like the nut ones in dark chocolate but now and then I have a bite from a new one to see if it's interesting | |||
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"some married men are ok. im just grateful to get some with someone who is my type its not always easy. My god...i thought ladies could be picky on here?" no not all ladies, and i am a bit picky thats why i said i am grateful to get someone who is my type. | |||
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"Just curious as to why you've put this post on Do you feel bad/guilty Just asking??!!" I 100% don't feel guilty, asked because im interested in the reaction x | |||
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"Just curious as to why you've put this post on Do you feel bad/guilty Just asking??!! I 100% don't feel guilty, asked because im interested in the reaction x" feel sorry for your wife. shame her husband cant control hes cock  | |||
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"Just curious as to why you've put this post on Do you feel bad/guilty Just asking??!! I 100% don't feel guilty, asked because im interested in the reaction x feel sorry for your wife. shame her husband cant control hes cock "Me too | |||
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"Well that seems to have mixed things up lol, and for the record, I have the upmost respect for my wife, and really some people should not Judge until they know the full story now should they, that's not very Christian lol people have numerous reasons they do things, not always right , but you guys don't know that xx" You could always enlighten us so we can make a mire informed decision why you choose to cheat on your wife ..do you think it would change anyone's opinion? Xx | |||
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"Well that seems to have mixed things up lol, and for the record, I have the upmost respect for my wife, and really some people should not Judge until they know the full story now should they, that's not very Christian lol people have numerous reasons they do things, not always right , but you guys don't know that xx" Not very Christian ? I'm pretty sure one of the Ten Commandments pretty much says none of us should be here doing what we're doing lol and most of the stuff written in that there book also  | |||
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"leave your wife ..have a clear conscience
Ohhh good heavens I don't want to leave my wife that's certainly not the plan"you wont have a choice when she finds out | |||
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"You have asked very similar questions before. Why do you keep asking? You seem very happy and comfortable with your actions. We wouldn't knowingly meet anyone who was cheating , male or female. It's your life and you live it as you want Pandora" ?? I think your confusing me, I only started using the forum on Friday | |||
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"You have asked very similar questions before. Why do you keep asking? You seem very happy and comfortable with your actions. We wouldn't knowingly meet anyone who was cheating , male or female. It's your life and you live it as you want Pandora ?? I think your confusing me, I only started using the forum on Friday " look at the green arrow next to your name and click on it as I did | |||
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"You have asked very similar questions before. Why do you keep asking? You seem very happy and comfortable with your actions. We wouldn't knowingly meet anyone who was cheating , male or female. It's your life and you live it as you want Pandora ?? I think your confusing me, I only started using the forum on Friday " Oh dear oh dear oh dear, so you lie to your wife and you lie to us too.  | |||
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"You have asked very similar questions before. Why do you keep asking? You seem very happy and comfortable with your actions. We wouldn't knowingly meet anyone who was cheating , male or female. It's your life and you live it as you want Pandora ?? I think your confusing me, I only started using the forum on Friday " amazing how you can remember which day it was when you posted your first 'married guys' post nearly a year ago | |||
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"You have asked very similar questions before. Why do you keep asking? You seem very happy and comfortable with your actions. We wouldn't knowingly meet anyone who was cheating , male or female. It's your life and you live it as you want Pandora ?? I think your confusing me, I only started using the forum on Friday amazing how you can remember which day it was when you posted your first 'married guys' post nearly a year ago "Maybe 51 weeks ago was a Friday. http://m.fabswingers.com/forum/introductions/155754 | |||
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"No I didn't lie, ? that was a year ago for gods sake, good god what's up with you people. I cant remember things from last week let alone last year ," and yet you remember your married lol
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"Have I found the only Forum based in the Deep South ?" why? do lots of people in Torquay cheat on their partners? | |||
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"We won't knowingly play with married/attached singles for a very simple reason , we've had the other half find out and stalk us from a meet where the guy was "single" . And we both know what it feels like when someone has cheated on you, it's not a nice feeling ." We don't meet attached singles and this quoted post confirms why. Worst fears on swinging sites are things like this and crazy meets biting you on the bum afterwards! MrsB  | |||
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"Well that seems to have mixed things up lol, and for the record, I have the upmost respect for my wife, and really some people should not Judge until they know the full story now should they, that's not very Christian lol people have numerous reasons they do things, not always right , but you guys don't know that xx" Interesting that yoy use the word Christian. Last time I checked "thou shall not commit adultery" was one of the then commandments, along with "thou shall not lie" so where does your wife think you are while you are wanting to sneak off to meet? | |||
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"You have asked very similar questions before. Why do you keep asking? You seem very happy and comfortable with your actions. We wouldn't knowingly meet anyone who was cheating , male or female. It's your life and you live it as you want Pandora ?? I think your confusing me, I only started using the forum on Friday " Little tip OP the little green arrow on this post links you to every thread you have started/commented on, so do you still want to protest your innoncence to not posting before now | |||
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"You have asked very similar questions before. Why do you keep asking? You seem very happy and comfortable with your actions. We wouldn't knowingly meet anyone who was cheating , male or female. It's your life and you live it as you want Pandora ?? I think your confusing me, I only started using the forum on Friday Little tip OP the little green arrow on this post links you to every thread you have started/commented on, so do you still want to protest your innoncence to not posting before now" Little Tip Back, read what people actually say rather than reading what you actually want , Im gone now, reply if you want xx | |||
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"You have asked very similar questions before. Why do you keep asking? You seem very happy and comfortable with your actions. We wouldn't knowingly meet anyone who was cheating , male or female. It's your life and you live it as you want Pandora ?? I think your confusing me, I only started using the forum on Friday Little tip OP the little green arrow on this post links you to every thread you have started/commented on, so do you still want to protest your innoncence to not posting before now Little Tip Back, read what people actually say rather than reading what you actually want , Im gone now, reply if you want xx" only just got further down to read that other post. I'm sorry this thread hasnt gone the way you want so you now have arse on! | |||
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"Just an observation about this thread...aren't we all basically liars on here? I've yet to meet anyone who's family/friends know about their swinging lifestyle, so what's the difference between us and the Op's post? I for a fact know we personally have to 'invent' normal parties or nights out to explain to family/sitters where we are going/have been, so really we are telling lies every weekend! On what is supposedly a very liberal site/lifestyle shouldn't we all be a little more understanding of people's personal choices regarding how and when they choose to swing?" Here Here and thank you | |||
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"I don't have an arse on, its just you guys know nothing about me or my situation, yet your happy to throw stones, and before you ask no I DONT want to talk about it, when I get someone to talk to who is civilised then I explain I always do, but unfortunately I haven't met one of those here today, enjoy and bask in your Blinfolded opinion" I'd suggest not starting a thread drawing attention to it then! | |||
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"I don't have an arse on, its just you guys know nothing about me or my situation, yet your happy to throw stones, and before you ask no I DONT want to talk about it, when I get someone to talk to who is civilised then I explain I always do, but unfortunately I haven't met one of those here today, enjoy and bask in your Blinfolded opinion I'd suggest not starting a thread drawing attention to it then! " Isnt that how Communism started | |||
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"I don't have an arse on, its just you guys know nothing about me or my situation, yet your happy to throw stones, and before you ask no I DONT want to talk about it, when I get someone to talk to who is civilised then I explain I always do, but unfortunately I haven't met one of those here today, enjoy and bask in your Blinfolded opinion" You wanted people's _iews I just gave our _iew and what we choose to do | |||
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" ...On what is supposedly a very liberal site/lifestyle shouldn't we all be a little more understanding of people's personal choices regarding how and when they choose to swing?" Hi! Welcome to the Fabs forums! You are clearly new around here.... | |||
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"Clearly by posts o p has no respect for his wife and i firmly believe in karma so one day with luck tables will turn. " ^^^This^^^ | |||
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"No I didn't lie, ? that was a year ago for gods sake, good god what's up with you people. I cant remember things from last week let alone last year ," For your sake you better hope you can remember where you told your wife you were when you were meeting other women. You asked for other forumites thoughts, did you honestly expect that they would all give you a pat on the back and encourage you - I'd say that was as naive as your very glib claim about your wife not knowing. If you don't like the negative responses from people who disapprove of your behaviour why invite their opinions in the first place - as some have already pointed out more than once? | |||
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"Well what are your thoughts, and of course she doesn't know, lets not be naïve xx "you asked a questioniso wanted opinions. Or am I wrong? Not everyone will condone what you do why can't you accept that? Don't think my post attacked you in any way just said what our personal choice is. Pandora | |||
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"No I didn't lie, ? that was a year ago for gods sake, good god what's up with you people. I cant remember things from last week let alone last year , For your sake you better hope you can remember where you told your wife you were when you were meeting other women. You asked for other forumites thoughts, did you honestly expect that they would all give you a pat on the back and encourage you - I'd say that was as naive as your very glib claim about your wife not knowing. If you don't like the negative responses from people who disapprove of your behaviour why invite their opinions in the first place - as some have already pointed out more than once?" | |||
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"Just an observation about this thread...aren't we all basically liars on here? I've yet to meet anyone who's family/friends know about their swinging lifestyle, so what's the difference between us and the Op's post? I for a fact know we personally have to 'invent' normal parties or nights out to explain to family/sitters where we are going/have been, so really we are telling lies every weekend! On what is supposedly a very liberal site/lifestyle shouldn't we all be a little more understanding of people's personal choices regarding how and when they choose to swing?" From what I can gather from your post (I havent looked at your profile) the significant difference between you and the OP is you are a couple and use the term "we" with regard to swinging. Not sure whether it is Mr or Mrs posting but would your _iews be the same if you discovered that your partner was arranging to meet other people to play without your knowledge or approval? Yes many of us prefer to be discreet about being part of this lifestyle but the majority of us also use discretion when it comes to our "vanilla" sexual activity too. How many people feel the need to discuss their sex lives with their children, mother, father, siblings, friends or work colleagues? | |||
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"Just an observation about this thread...aren't we all basically liars on here? I've yet to meet anyone who's family/friends know about their swinging lifestyle, so what's the difference between us and the Op's post? I for a fact know we personally have to 'invent' normal parties or nights out to explain to family/sitters where we are going/have been, so really we are telling lies every weekend! On what is supposedly a very liberal site/lifestyle shouldn't we all be a little more understanding of people's personal choices regarding how and when they choose to swing?" The difference as I see it, friends and family do not have a right or a need to know about your sex life, you have not entered into a commitment with them regarding it. However, your spouse certainly does have a right to know! | |||
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"JUst a Final note on the Subject, for all the people who said they wont meet me, Sorry, I don't remember asking in the first place xx" Thought your final word was half an hour back .
BTW Martin correct me if I'm wrong but the majority have stated they wouldn't meet attached people, you just simply fall into that category, therefore don't take it personally. | |||
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"How would you feel if your wife had been on here for over a year? think about it "I'd 100% agree that you shouldn't be on here if you weren't 100% happy for your partner to be so as well. But I wonder how accurate that particular stereotype of attached people on here is? Given how common the "promiscuous wife" fantasy seems to be amongst men, it seems unlikely that the stereotype is actually that realistic, for men at least. | |||
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"JUst a Final note on the Subject, for all the people who said they wont meet me, Sorry, I don't remember asking in the first place xx Thought your final word was half an hour back .
BTW Martin correct me if I'm wrong but the majority have stated they wouldn't meet attached people, you just simply fall into that category, therefore don't take it personally."Selective reading lol, sees what he wants. Ask a question be prepared for different answers and opinions Next time maybe ask for a yes or no answer not thoughts or _iews Surely you should respect the differing/_iews/choices/opinions we all have | |||
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"Debateable...I like to think I am committed to my family as well!! If its just sex, why is it a problem then for the op? We don't know the full story of his married life....just because he seeks sex elsewhere doesn't mean he isn't committed to his wife! " So are you saying the sex you have with your partner is the same as the sex you have with everyone you swing with, that you don't share a deeper connection with your partner that sets it apart? Nobody actually said he wasn't committed to his wife did they? They were offering opinions as to whether they would play with married/attached people and if not why not. You are right we do not know the OP's personal circumstances and most of us don't want to, he asked the question, people are entitled to their opinions just as you are. The OP did however pose the question and then become very defensive when he felt criticised which would surely suggest that he also feels what he is doing is to some degree inappropriate/unacceptable? | |||
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"Debateable...I like to think I am committed to my family as well!! If its just sex, why is it a problem then for the op? We don't know the full story of his married life....just because he seeks sex elsewhere doesn't mean he isn't committed to his wife! " The vast majority of us are committed to our families, it doesn't mean we want to have sex with them or share details of our sexual exploits with them!! | |||
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"JUst a Final note on the Subject, for all the people who said they wont meet me, Sorry, I don't remember asking in the first place xx" You did ask for there opinion on a forum. Sorry Hun you final note don't let of the hook . | |||
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"Just an observation about this thread...aren't we all basically liars on here? I've yet to meet anyone who's family/friends know about their swinging lifestyle, so what's the difference between us and the Op's post? I for a fact know we personally have to 'invent' normal parties or nights out to explain to family/sitters where we are going/have been, so really we are telling lies every weekend! On what is supposedly a very liberal site/lifestyle shouldn't we all be a little more understanding of people's personal choices regarding how and when they choose to swing?" a very common misconception. you are born into a family, so these people are yours by default, however you CHOOSE to love, trust, honour your partner, and this should be a rule throughout life. swinging, in essence, is based on trust and honesty, whether that be with those you are getting involved in, or the person you are actually doing it with, so by that token, your partner requires a lot more trust and honesty than any member of your family. | |||
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"Its up to everybody individually who you meet, what your preferences are, etc etc. If someone is married (and I am), its up to us if we are on here or not and if you don't agree with it, don't talk to us. Simples! " Therefore, if you're married and cheating get on with it ffs and stop with these look at me type threads!  | |||
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"ppl that say they dont meet married guys/girls...i would say 100% you have... "Would be a brave married man that met me, unless his wife is out the country as (a) I don't meet men who can't accommodate and (b) it'll take some explaining away the "property of Miss Vee" temporary tattoo on the arse! | |||
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"some married men are ok. im just grateful to get some with someone who is my type its not always easy. My god...i thought ladies could be picky on here?" Obviously not if they're "grateful". Takes all sorts. | |||
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"Well what are your thoughts, and of course she doesn't know, lets not be naïve xx "I honestly don't give two shiny ***** what you do but the level of disrespect shown to your wife in this one sentence is breathtaking. You say in a later post that you have the utmost respect for her.....I doubt it very much. I'm aware that this thread was started so that you could draw out all the people who are against married and playing away so that you could show them just how little you care for their opinion, but why are you bothered about it in the first place? | |||
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"Just an observation about this thread...aren't we all basically liars on here? I've yet to meet anyone who's family/friends know about their swinging lifestyle, so what's the difference between us and the Op's post? I for a fact know we personally have to 'invent' normal parties or nights out to explain to family/sitters where we are going/have been, so really we are telling lies every weekend! On what is supposedly a very liberal site/lifestyle shouldn't we all be a little more understanding of people's personal choices regarding how and when they choose to swing?" My family and friends don't know my bank balance, how many times I opened my bowels last week or the fact my bra and knickers don't always match. There's something called "private" life some of us believe in!
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"Well what are your thoughts, " you will do what you want to do..... pointless asking others because, you will do what you want to do. | |||
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"Debateable...I like to think I am committed to my family as well!! If its just sex, why is it a problem then for the op? We don't know the full story of his married life....just because he seeks sex elsewhere doesn't mean he isn't committed to his wife! " Being commited to your partner to me would mean not mentioning him or her on a website he or she knew nothing about to a bunch of complete strangers. The worst thing for me wouldn't be the sexual aspect it would be the betrayal of being discussed like that. If you're happy to have sex without including them why mention them in the forums?. Of you're married just shut up and get on with it. | |||
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"Why do some people feel the need to justify their lives to strangers on the internet? Another thing I don't understand- why someone would have a clear face pic on their profile in a situation such as this. "
or just get on with it... no dramas, no justifications, just look for your hole with someone who will shag you and get the fuck on with it.....
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"Why do some people feel the need to justify their lives to strangers on the internet? Another thing I don't understand- why someone would have a clear face pic on their profile in a situation such as this. "Because hes cock as taken over | |||
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"Sorry OP, I am in a similar boat to yourself; however, I am fully aware that what we are doing is morally wrong. Our circumstances will differ and we all will justify our reasons for doing this. Nonetheless, for those posters that have stated we are not committed to our partners, are being a little naive as to the multifaceted nature of life. For me, every aspect of my life with my partner is thriving; except our sex life. We have had sex once since we got back together in November with no breakthrough on the horizon. I do not meet regularly and would not have sex with just anyone, but there is only so much rejection and demoralisation a person can take before taking action to counter this. Bottom line is that we all do things that are wrong and have no right to judge others. Opinions are fine, but too many people on here cross the 'opinion' boundary and turn it into a personal attack. Last time I checked, no human being had a halo glimmering above their heads; skeletons are in every closet my friends "If sex is the problem then you have three options... leave cheat for many years to come as it obv wont get any better or be honest with her | |||
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"Sorry OP, I am in a similar boat to yourself; however, I am fully aware that what we are doing is morally wrong. Our circumstances will differ and we all will justify our reasons for doing this. Nonetheless, for those posters that have stated we are not committed to our partners, are being a little naive as to the multifaceted nature of life. For me, every aspect of my life with my partner is thriving; except our sex life. We have had sex once since we got back together in November with no breakthrough on the horizon. I do not meet regularly and would not have sex with just anyone, but there is only so much rejection and demoralisation a person can take before taking action to counter this. Bottom line is that we all do things that are wrong and have no right to judge others. Opinions are fine, but too many people on here cross the 'opinion' boundary and turn it into a personal attack. Last time I checked, no human being had a halo glimmering above their heads; skeletons are in every closet my friends
If sex is the problem then you have three options...
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cheat for many years to come as it obv wont get any better
or be honest with her"I did leave her...but due to her personal circumstances, it was better to move back; not just for her but our children also. Like I stated previously, life is far more complex than an individual's perception of it. Although, no matter the reasoning behind the act, it doesn't make it right. It's just a part of life. I know many, many guys and girls who have/are cheating on partners for various reasons, but would still condemn those that do the same. I wonder how many of the previous posters are hypocritical?!?! The internet is thriving with lies and cheats...but many of those people also mask reality by criticising others.  | |||
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"You have asked very similar questions before. Why do you keep asking? You seem very happy and comfortable with your actions. We wouldn't knowingly meet anyone who was cheating , male or female. It's your life and you live it as you want Pandora ?? I think your confusing me, I only started using the forum on Friday " No confusion about it this is the forth thread about married men playing away or daytime fun I've been on the forums for 3 months and not started one..... | |||
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"Just an observation about this thread...aren't we all basically liars on here? I've yet to meet anyone who's family/friends know about their swinging lifestyle, so what's the difference between us and the Op's post? I for a fact know we personally have to 'invent' normal parties or nights out to explain to family/sitters where we are going/have been, so really we are telling lies every weekend! On what is supposedly a very liberal site/lifestyle shouldn't we all be a little more understanding of people's personal choices regarding how and when they choose to swing?" Let me introduce myself, my friends and family all know I swing and my best mate has all my login details in a sealed envelope just incase. I tell people where I'm going and that I'm meeting someone, not who but just that I am, they are my safety blanket. If I'm going to do something I always do it with pride and openness. | |||
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"Why do some people feel the need to justify their lives to strangers on the internet? Another thing I don't understand- why someone would have a clear face pic on their profile in a situation such as this.
or just get on with it... no dramas, no justifications, just look for your hole with someone who will shag you and get the fuck on with it.....
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"Just an observation about this thread...aren't we all basically liars on here? I've yet to meet anyone who's family/friends know about their swinging lifestyle, so what's the difference between us and the Op's post? I for a fact know we personally have to 'invent' normal parties or nights out to explain to family/sitters where we are going/have been, so really we are telling lies every weekend! On what is supposedly a very liberal site/lifestyle shouldn't we all be a little more understanding of people's personal choices regarding how and when they choose to swing? Let me introduce myself, my friends and family all know I swing and my best mate has all my login details in a sealed envelope just incase. I tell people where I'm going and that I'm meeting someone, not who but just that I am, they are my safety blanket. If I'm going to do something I always do it with pride and openness." I think you will find you are in the minority on here then! Good on you for being honest, but some of us are not in the position to do that! | |||
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"Why do some people feel the need to justify their lives to strangers on the internet? Another thing I don't understand- why someone would have a clear face pic on their profile in a situation such as this.
or just get on with it... no dramas, no justifications, just look for your hole with someone who will shag you and get the fuck on with it.....
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"Sorry OP, I am in a similar boat to yourself; however, I am fully aware that what we are doing is morally wrong. Our circumstances will differ and we all will justify our reasons for doing this. Nonetheless, for those posters that have stated we are not committed to our partners, are being a little naive as to the multifaceted nature of life. For me, every aspect of my life with my partner is thriving; except our sex life. We have had sex once since we got back together in November with no breakthrough on the horizon. I do not meet regularly and would not have sex with just anyone, but there is only so much rejection and demoralisation a person can take before taking action to counter this. Bottom line is that we all do things that are wrong and have no right to judge others. Opinions are fine, but too many people on here cross the 'opinion' boundary and turn it into a personal attack. Last time I checked, no human being had a halo glimmering above their heads; skeletons are in every closet my friends "I have plenty of skeletons in my cupboards and one thing I'm damn sure of I wouldn't be rattling their bones on the forum of a swingers website. You may have commitment to your partner but you clearly feel no need to respect her privacy by telling the details of your sex life or lack of it to all of us. I think you're missing the point of what some of us are saying, a lot of us know that life isn't black and white, shit happens and we deal with it in varying ways but what would hurt me more than any sexual betrayal would be this discussing in public forums, I woudl find it humiliating..and please don't tell me what she doesn't know wont hurt her. | |||
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"Sorry OP, I am in a similar boat to yourself; however, I am fully aware that what we are doing is morally wrong. Our circumstances will differ and we all will justify our reasons for doing this. Nonetheless, for those posters that have stated we are not committed to our partners, are being a little naive as to the multifaceted nature of life. For me, every aspect of my life with my partner is thriving; except our sex life. We have had sex once since we got back together in November with no breakthrough on the horizon. I do not meet regularly and would not have sex with just anyone, but there is only so much rejection and demoralisation a person can take before taking action to counter this. Bottom line is that we all do things that are wrong and have no right to judge others. Opinions are fine, but too many people on here cross the 'opinion' boundary and turn it into a personal attack. Last time I checked, no human being had a halo glimmering above their heads; skeletons are in every closet my friends
I have plenty of skeletons in my cupboards and one thing I'm damn sure of I wouldn't be rattling their bones on the forum of a swingers website. You may have commitment to your partner but you clearly feel no need to respect her privacy by telling the details of your sex life or lack of it to all of us.
I think you're missing the point of what some of us are saying, a lot of us know that life isn't black and white, shit happens and we deal with it in varying ways but what would hurt me more than any sexual betrayal would be this discussing in public forums, I woudl find it humiliating..and please don't tell me what she doesn't know wont hurt her."Understood. But I have given no details of my situation or regarding my sex life. I am just an image on a screen to you as is the OP. You have no idea who any of us are therefore any lack of respect caused by our partners is just an abstract concept to you and others. If myself and the people in it, were known to you, then I could relate completely to your point. Think about this situation in comparison to 'real' crimes of humanity and then put everything else into perspective. We all have our own judgments and thoughts based on our individual experiences. Neither of us are right. But we do have our own valid opinions in relation to our lives. The point I attempted to make earlier was that people have crossed the line when offering _iews on the OP's post. Constructive criticism is warrented but naive judgments aren't. X | |||
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"Sorry OP, I am in a similar boat to yourself; however, I am fully aware that what we are doing is morally wrong. Our circumstances will differ and we all will justify our reasons for doing this. Nonetheless, for those posters that have stated we are not committed to our partners, are being a little naive as to the multifaceted nature of life. For me, every aspect of my life with my partner is thriving; except our sex life. We have had sex once since we got back together in November with no breakthrough on the horizon. I do not meet regularly and would not have sex with just anyone, but there is only so much rejection and demoralisation a person can take before taking action to counter this. Bottom line is that we all do things that are wrong and have no right to judge others. Opinions are fine, but too many people on here cross the 'opinion' boundary and turn it into a personal attack. Last time I checked, no human being had a halo glimmering above their heads; skeletons are in every closet my friends
I have plenty of skeletons in my cupboards and one thing I'm damn sure of I wouldn't be rattling their bones on the forum of a swingers website. You may have commitment to your partner but you clearly feel no need to respect her privacy by telling the details of your sex life or lack of it to all of us.
I think you're missing the point of what some of us are saying, a lot of us know that life isn't black and white, shit happens and we deal with it in varying ways but what would hurt me more than any sexual betrayal would be this discussing in public forums, I woudl find it humiliating..and please don't tell me what she doesn't know wont hurt her.
Understood. But I have given no details of my situation or regarding my sex life. I am just an image on a screen to you as is the OP. You have no idea who any of us are therefore any lack of respect caused by our partners is just an abstract concept to you and others. If myself and the people in it, were known to you, then I could relate completely to your point. Think about this situation in comparison to 'real' crimes of humanity and then put everything else into perspective. We all have our own judgments and thoughts based on our individual experiences. Neither of us are right. But we do have our own valid opinions in relation to our lives. The point I attempted to make earlier was that people have crossed the line when offering _iews on the OP's post. Constructive criticism is warrented but naive judgments aren't. X"I completely understand that in relation to crimes of humanity a little sex on the side is nothing and in the grand scheme of things we'll all be dust in a hundred years, I have that perspective. However despite the fact that none of us know each other we have chosen to come together briefly to exchange opinions abstract or not..it is what it is. PS I would argue that telling us you've only had sex once since November is a detail of your sex life. | |||
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"Sorry OP, I am in a similar boat to yourself; however, I am fully aware that what we are doing is morally wrong. Our circumstances will differ and we all will justify our reasons for doing this. Nonetheless, for those posters that have stated we are not committed to our partners, are being a little naive as to the multifaceted nature of life. For me, every aspect of my life with my partner is thriving; except our sex life. We have had sex once since we got back together in November with no breakthrough on the horizon. I do not meet regularly and would not have sex with just anyone, but there is only so much rejection and demoralisation a person can take before taking action to counter this. Bottom line is that we all do things that are wrong and have no right to judge others. Opinions are fine, but too many people on here cross the 'opinion' boundary and turn it into a personal attack. Last time I checked, no human being had a halo glimmering above their heads; skeletons are in every closet my friends
I have plenty of skeletons in my cupboards and one thing I'm damn sure of I wouldn't be rattling their bones on the forum of a swingers website. You may have commitment to your partner but you clearly feel no need to respect her privacy by telling the details of your sex life or lack of it to all of us.
I think you're missing the point of what some of us are saying, a lot of us know that life isn't black and white, shit happens and we deal with it in varying ways but what would hurt me more than any sexual betrayal would be this discussing in public forums, I woudl find it humiliating..and please don't tell me what she doesn't know wont hurt her.
Understood. But I have given no details of my situation or regarding my sex life. I am just an image on a screen to you as is the OP. You have no idea who any of us are therefore any lack of respect caused by our partners is just an abstract concept to you and others. If myself and the people in it, were known to you, then I could relate completely to your point. Think about this situation in comparison to 'real' crimes of humanity and then put everything else into perspective. We all have our own judgments and thoughts based on our individual experiences. Neither of us are right. But we do have our own valid opinions in relation to our lives. The point I attempted to make earlier was that people have crossed the line when offering _iews on the OP's post. Constructive criticism is warrented but naive judgments aren't. X
I completely understand that in relation to crimes of humanity a little sex on the side is nothing and in the grand scheme of things we'll all be dust in a hundred years, I have that perspective. However despite the fact that none of us know each other we have chosen to come together briefly to exchange opinions abstract or not..it is what it is.
PS I would argue that telling us you've only had sex once since November is a detail of your sex life.
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"Hello, I'm a reasonable guy, or so I think and don't wish to judge without the full facts! As you clearly state you are MARRIED, she DOESN'T KNOW, how can that be RESPECTFUL and what are your reasons behind being a CHEAT?"
No one knows people's personal circumstances but how can coming on a swingers site looking for sex behind your partners back be respectful? I'd also question why you need to draw attention to it on an open forum but its your life and if you can live with yourself then you live it how you wish. | |||
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"Sorry OP, I am in a similar boat to yourself; however, I am fully aware that what we are doing is morally wrong. Our circumstances will differ and we all will justify our reasons for doing this. Nonetheless, for those posters that have stated we are not committed to our partners, are being a little naive as to the multifaceted nature of life. For me, every aspect of my life with my partner is thriving; except our sex life. We have had sex once since we got back together in November with no breakthrough on the horizon. I do not meet regularly and would not have sex with just anyone, but there is only so much rejection and demoralisation a person can take before taking action to counter this. Bottom line is that we all do things that are wrong and have no right to judge others. Opinions are fine, but too many people on here cross the 'opinion' boundary and turn it into a personal attack. Last time I checked, no human being had a halo glimmering above their heads; skeletons are in every closet my friends "Koda - I am never one to judge how other people choose to live their lives - I myself have done things I know are morally wrong too. But having been in a wrong and unhappy relationship for 11 years (my teens and the whole of my twenties) because it seemed like the best or easiest thing to do at that time I would be concerned re putting up with a situation that isn't ideal for you. I don't know you or your relationship, and don't doubt that it is very different to mine, but if you're only 33 you may regret stifling yourself later on. Taking the huge step to take myself out of that resulted in me meeting someone I am compatible with in every way, especially sexually. Again no judgements on you or your life, just advising, based on my experience, that being happy in all aspects of life is vital MrsB | |||
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"Just an observation about this thread...aren't we all basically liars on here? I've yet to meet anyone who's family/friends know about their swinging lifestyle, so what's the difference between us and the Op's post? I for a fact know we personally have to 'invent' normal parties or nights out to explain to family/sitters where we are going/have been, so really we are telling lies every weekend! On what is supposedly a very liberal site/lifestyle shouldn't we all be a little more understanding of people's personal choices regarding how and when they choose to swing?" my thoughts exactly. | |||
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"it not even the married and cheating part that annoys me... one part is the justification... the other is the blazen gloating about it..." I dont like the ones who gloat either. | |||
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"Just an observation about this thread...aren't we all basically liars on here? I've yet to meet anyone who's family/friends know about their swinging lifestyle, so what's the difference between us and the Op's post? I for a fact know we personally have to 'invent' normal parties or nights out to explain to family/sitters where we are going/have been, so really we are telling lies every weekend! On what is supposedly a very liberal site/lifestyle shouldn't we all be a little more understanding of people's personal choices regarding how and when they choose to swing?" the "well we all lie" defense... love it.... that only works if all lies were the same.....
it may be in your world.... but I am guessing that in the world the rest of us live in there is a huge difference between the following...
"I only had one biscuit!" when you in fact had two....
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"I am having sex behind the back of the person I profess to love more than any other!"......
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"What about such as me ( mr dee) who is married and given permission to play by my wife do fems or cpls feel same way if I get offered a meet I tell mrs dee about the offer and mrs dee is always happy for me to meet xx "Individual couples vary but we don't knowingly meet anyone who is married but plays alone whatever their reason. | |||
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"Well what are your thoughts, and of course she doesn't know, lets not be naïve xx How would you feel if your wife had been on here for over a year? think about it "great | |||
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"Sorry OP, I am in a similar boat to yourself; however, I am fully aware that what we are doing is morally wrong. Our circumstances will differ and we all will justify our reasons for doing this. Nonetheless, for those posters that have stated we are not committed to our partners, are being a little naive as to the multifaceted nature of life. For me, every aspect of my life with my partner is thriving; except our sex life. We have had sex once since we got back together in November with no breakthrough on the horizon. I do not meet regularly and would not have sex with just anyone, but there is only so much rejection and demoralisation a person can take before taking action to counter this. Bottom line is that we all do things that are wrong and have no right to judge others. Opinions are fine, but too many people on here cross the 'opinion' boundary and turn it into a personal attack. Last time I checked, no human being had a halo glimmering above their heads; skeletons are in every closet my friends "Totally agree with this. Each to their own, everyone has their own reasons to be here. Whether married or not. Or playing without their partners knowledge. Does not mean they are not committed but might just want/need that little something that their partner is not willing to try. I am a single female and have played with a married man. Does that make me a marriage wrecker? xx | |||
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"Sorry OP, I am in a similar boat to yourself; however, I am fully aware that what we are doing is morally wrong. Our circumstances will differ and we all will justify our reasons for doing this. Nonetheless, for those posters that have stated we are not committed to our partners, are being a little naive as to the multifaceted nature of life. For me, every aspect of my life with my partner is thriving; except our sex life. We have had sex once since we got back together in November with no breakthrough on the horizon. I do not meet regularly and would not have sex with just anyone, but there is only so much rejection and demoralisation a person can take before taking action to counter this. Bottom line is that we all do things that are wrong and have no right to judge others. Opinions are fine, but too many people on here cross the 'opinion' boundary and turn it into a personal attack. Last time I checked, no human being had a halo glimmering above their heads; skeletons are in every closet my friends Totally agree with this. Each to their own, everyone has their own reasons to be here. Whether married or not. Or playing without their partners knowledge. Does not mean they are not committed but might just want/need that little something that their partner is not willing to try. I am a single female and have played with a married man. Does that make me a marriage wrecker? xx"wanting/needing a little something that their partner is not willing to try doesn't mean someone isn't commited...but going out and getting it does. A partnership is about compromise and compromise can be difficut at times but I really hope that the people who are on here without their partners knowledge are on here for more than "a little something" their partner was unwilling to try. Being a single female that plays with married men doesn't make you a marriage wrecker, no. | |||
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"I think if you're openly cheating on your wife (which I think is awful but it's your choice) then you should probably think about not plastering your face on your profile for everyone to see. Either come clean to your wife, stop doing this or at least go to some effort to hide your identity." What's the point? I am willing to bet she already knows! In a close relationship no way can you 'hide' things and I bet his behaviour is very telling and she is not stupid. | |||
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"I think if you're openly cheating on your wife (which I think is awful but it's your choice) then you should probably think about not plastering your face on your profile for everyone to see. Either come clean to your wife, stop doing this or at least go to some effort to hide your identity. What's the point? I am willing to bet she already knows! In a close relationship no way can you 'hide' things and I bet his behaviour is very telling and she is not stupid. " In my experience I must agree she will no my ex cheated on me, we now arent together and he was later shocked to discover I could tell him the exact night he first cheated on me, but I oviously knew him much better than he thought I did | |||
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Individual couples vary but we don't knowingly meet anyone who is married but plays alone whatever their reason."Thanks for your input is that the opinion of other cpls or fems to? X | |||
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"You have asked very similar questions before. Why do you keep asking? You seem very happy and comfortable with your actions. We wouldn't knowingly meet anyone who was cheating , male or female. It's your life and you live it as you want Pandora ?? I think your confusing me, I only started using the forum on Friday " cannot even tell the truth on here we feel sorry for your wife she deserves better ! | |||
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"What about such as me ( mr dee) who is married and given permission to play by my wife do fems or cpls feel same way if I get offered a meet I tell mrs dee about the offer and mrs dee is always happy for me to meet xx
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