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"I am uncut but can pull my foreskin down completely. I know some guys have tight foreskins and have issues and can't roll them back. So is the issue that they are uncut or that the foreskin is to tight? " My fellas was too tight when he was younger hence being cut. I don't have issues with either. I do like both.. I just like to perve at my misters cock. Its always there as though its saying "hello" haha! | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference?" Why do we feel the need to try to understand others preferences on here? Are we not grown up enough to accept that we all have preferences and they may not be the same as everyone elses? Sometimes preferences just can't be explained. | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference? Why do we feel the need to try to understand others preferences on here? Are we not grown up enough to accept that we all have preferences and they may not be the same as everyone elses? Sometimes preferences just can't be explained." That's very true! We can't always explain what we mean and how it feels individually. x | |||
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"I am uncut but can pull my foreskin down completely. I know some guys have tight foreskins and have issues and can't roll them back. So is the issue that they are uncut or that the foreskin is to tight? " Just a question mainly for the Fems. If you generally practice safe sex, does it feel any different whether they are cut or not when using a condom? | |||
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"I am uncut but can pull my foreskin down completely. I know some guys have tight foreskins and have issues and can't roll them back. So is the issue that they are uncut or that the foreskin is to tight? Just a question mainly for the Fems. If you generally practice safe sex, does it feel any different whether they are cut or not when using a condom?" No different at all. They are still hard and the skin is back so can't be x | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference?" I do prefer cut, but wouldn't rule out un cut! Cut to me is cleaner, bigger and tastier | |||
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" I do prefer cut, but wouldn't rule out un cut! Cut to me is cleaner, bigger and tastier " Totally agree. They certainly taste better in my view. I don't mind uncut, I won't turn someone down because they wear a cap, but I prefer a bald one | |||
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"I used to see a girl who couldn't work out how I could wank without a foreskin. Couple of pointers she soon got the hang of it. " I can but it just isn't as good for me. | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference?" cleanliness | |||
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"Wanking a circumcised cock may be easier but I much prefer the look and feel of a cut cock both flaccid and erect especially when giving oral ,,,,,,,, Having the cock head on show all the time looks much nicer and alway taste clean and yummy ! X" Goes to show it's all about preference. Once fully hard I dont think there is much difference but soft.. mmm love a nice foreskin to tease x | |||
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"Wanking a circumcised cock may be easier but I much prefer the look and feel of a cut cock both flaccid and erect especially when giving oral ,,,,,,,, Having the cock head on show all the time looks much nicer and alway taste clean and yummy ! X" a circumcised cock and cut cock are the same thing | |||
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"Oh and I never suck cock thats not clean x" I wouldn't want a lady sucking my cock if it wasn't clean ewwww | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference? I do prefer cut, but wouldn't rule out un cut! Cut to me is cleaner, bigger and tastier " There should be no difference in cleanliness so long as you know how to wash yourself, which hopefully everyone does anyway. As for bigger, I'm not sure how that works Circumcision does cause the skin on the glans to harden, thus reducing sensitivity - so less chance of a premature ending for you ladies. Personally I'd prefer to keep all of the nerve endings and the pleasure that they provide me. If it wasn't for circumcision being so prevalent in places like the US we'd probably think of it as being just as barbaric as FGM. | |||
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"I would love to get cut, I think my cock would look so much better, but not sure if I'm too late to have it done?" My partner had his done when about 19. I love it. Have tried both and prefer cut. Love the look and feel. Looks soooo sexy to me. X | |||
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"Why is it that people think a cut guy is cleaner than an uncut guy. Personal hygiene is all it takes and have to agree its good fun playing with a foreskin, love sliding it back &watching the head appear. Xx" I agree 100%, uncut is still clean if he has personal hygiene | |||
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"Im cut and every partner has changed their preference after being with me. Ladies just love cut cock!!! " Not all ladies.. x if I was told I could only have one or the other I would choose uncut | |||
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"Personally I preferred cut, somehow feels sexier " Im liking all the cut love | |||
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"As everyones preferences have to be "respected", can men state there preference for vulvas whose labia have been trimmed or removed as they "look prettier, cleaner and smaller"? Or is it only acceptable to cut up (and frequently disfigure) male genitals over a wrongly percieved medical advantage?" Wrongly perceived medical advantage? That'd be the one where the baby boy had to be circumcised so he could pee without making the tip of his winky swell. Or the religious reasons for two major Abrahamaic religions. Don't even get me started on FGM. That is in no way connected. Besides- most males issue with the labia is because they dont like them not looking like pornstars! | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference? I do prefer cut, but wouldn't rule out un cut! Cut to me is cleaner, bigger and tastier " Bigger? How on earth does cut or not equate to size? | |||
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"More hygienic " I think you'll find there's plenty of uncircumcised guys that have no problem maintaining personal hygiene. | |||
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"I am uncut but can pull my foreskin down completely. I know some guys have tight foreskins and have issues and can't roll them back. So is the issue that they are uncut or that the foreskin is to tight? " Yea, I roll my own too.... | |||
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"Or is it only acceptable to cut up (and frequently disfigure) male genitals over a wrongly percieved medical advantage?" There are actual medical benefits to having the procedure done. Admittedly they are very minor but they are there. | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference? I do prefer cut, but wouldn't rule out un cut! Cut to me is cleaner, bigger and tastier " Having your skin Hula Hoop cut off aint going to make it bigger. And as for cleaner and tastier? Well personal hygiene should have taken care of that! | |||
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"well mine is cut and theres nothing I can do about it " Superglue? Just make sure you get your own back! | |||
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"Help! Thinking of getting circumcised so I can have a bigger, cleaner cock. Hopefully it will reduce my shower bill and get me more meets" Yup. A man I agree with. Couldnt believe the cleaner/bigger comment. Maybe varifocals are required... | |||
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"well mine is cut and theres nothing I can do about it " Just remembered the Friends episode where Joey has to find a foreskin fast. Its very funny. | |||
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"well mine is cut and theres nothing I can do about it Superglue? Just make sure you get your own back! " Don't think I'll find it now Obi, it was chopped off way before you were born | |||
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"well mine is cut and theres nothing I can do about it Superglue? Just make sure you get your own back! Don't think I'll find it now Obi, it was chopped off way before you were born " Might be a bit wrinkly now then! | |||
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"Or is it only acceptable to cut up (and frequently disfigure) male genitals over a wrongly percieved medical advantage? There are actual medical benefits to having the procedure done. Admittedly they are very minor but they are there." Name them then. | |||
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"well mine is cut and theres nothing I can do about it " Not strictly true, watch this, it'll dispel any myths you may have heard about circumcision. http://m.youtube.com/watch?sts=16080&v=TY5g4fFhxWA&has_verified=1&client=mv-google&layout=mobile | |||
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"As everyones preferences have to be "respected", can men state there preference for vulvas whose labia have been trimmed or removed as they "look prettier, cleaner and smaller"? Or is it only acceptable to cut up (and frequently disfigure) male genitals over a wrongly percieved medical advantage? Wrongly perceived medical advantage? That'd be the one where the baby boy had to be circumcised so he could pee without making the tip of his winky swell. Or the religious reasons for two major Abrahamaic religions. Don't even get me started on FGM. That is in no way connected. Besides- most males issue with the labia is because they dont like them not looking like pornstars! " I KNOW there are some sound medical reasons. But the majority of circumsions are religious or just aesthetic reasons. That is not a good enough reason to mutilate someones genitals is it? Hence my deliberately provocative statement about labioplasty. I don't agree with any of it, but why should it be seen as ok for a male to be cut up? Plenty of men have had there sex lives ruined by catastrophic mistakes with their infant circumcision, so yes there is a connection with female mutilation. | |||
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"As everyones preferences have to be "respected", can men state there preference for vulvas whose labia have been trimmed or removed as they "look prettier, cleaner and smaller"? Or is it only acceptable to cut up (and frequently disfigure) male genitals over a wrongly percieved medical advantage?" Its not wrongly percieved I am afraid. There are strong scientific evidences that a circumcised cock is more hygenic and the chances to catch an STD including HIV is reduced by 60-70%. The dirt is stock under the foreskin and viruses get absorbed easily by the small blood vessels which are much more exposed in an uncut cock. Sexually a man with a cut cock have much more control over the cum and premature cum is more likely to haplen with uncut cock. Also Girls I have been with they said they much prefer uncut cock's feeling coz it feels as one block at the movement of in and out and doesnt keep sliding inside the foreskin lol. | |||
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"As everyones preferences have to be "respected", can men state there preference for vulvas whose labia have been trimmed or removed as they "look prettier, cleaner and smaller"? Or is it only acceptable to cut up (and frequently disfigure) male genitals over a wrongly percieved medical advantage? Its not wrongly percieved I am afraid. There are strong scientific evidences that a circumcised cock is more hygenic and the chances to catch an STD including HIV is reduced by 60-70%. The dirt is stock under the foreskin and viruses get absorbed easily by the small blood vessels which are much more exposed in an uncut cock. Sexually a man with a cut cock have much more control over the cum and premature cum is more likely to haplen with uncut cock. Also Girls I have been with they said they much prefer uncut cock's feeling coz it feels as one block at the movement of in and out and doesnt keep sliding inside the foreskin lol." Sorry but you're wrong there. There have been studies, (mostly in the US where there is extra incentive for circumcision) that suggest reduced risk of STD, that part is true but there are also studies showing the reduction in risk is negligible. In short, it's inconclusive. As for cleanliness, that's nonsense too. The secretions of the glans are there to keep the head lubricated and to keep it clean, after all it is supposed to be an internal organ. Of course, if you don't wash it for a week it'll be manly but the same can be said of a cut cock. The premature thing is partially true - the skin does thicken and reduce sensitivity but it also affects the ejaculatory response, meaning cut men are less likely to be able to tell when ejaculation is close and therefore less able to control it. And lastly, the foreskin allows easier movement of the penis in the vagina until such point that there is sufficient lubrication, at that point the foreskin generally remains retracted leaving the skin on the shaft slightly wrinkled, this means added sensation for the woman - that's where the idea for ribbed condoms actually came from. | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference?" Foreskins are fine if they retract but there are guys who have tight ones and there is always a question of hygiene with them if the foreskin won't fully retract. | |||
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"That's should say manky, not manly. Damn autocorrect. " The studdy was done in selcted African countries where the rate of HIV contamination is growing fast because of limited health care. It was done over a number of population in different countries and the results where surprisingly unexpected and similar. 60-70% reduced riscks. It was done by the World Health Organisation and they recomand strongly all countries who have a considerable population of HIV positive individuals hense why the USA gov has opted to take those recommendations on board. Sorry for the poor English. Not my maternal language | |||
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"That's should say manky, not manly. Damn autocorrect. The studdy was done in selcted African countries where the rate of HIV contamination is growing fast because of limited health care. It was done over a number of population in different countries and the results where surprisingly unexpected and similar. 60-70% reduced riscks. It was done by the World Health Organisation and they recomand strongly all countries who have a considerable population of HIV positive individuals hense why the USA gov has opted to take those recommendations on board. Sorry for the poor English. Not my maternal language" There were three studies in three African countries, each with less than 100 men. I could provide a link to a paper which outlines these studies and their results and how they are not conclusive but such links are not allowed on the forums. Here is a small excerpt instead. "All three studies found that non-circumcised males contract HIV infection more quickly than circumcised males. This may be because the circumcised males required a period of abstinence after their circumcision. All three studies were terminated early, before the incidence of infection in circumcised males caught up with the incidence of infection in the non-circumcised males. If the studies had continued for their scheduled time, it is probable that there would have been little difference between the circumcised group and the non-circumcised group. Mills & Siegfried point out that early termination of such studies cause the benefits to be exaggerated. Dowsett & Couch (2007), even after publication of the RCTs, found insufficient evidence exists to support a program of circumcision to prevent HIV infection." | |||
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" I do prefer cut, but wouldn't rule out un cut! Cut to me is cleaner, bigger and tastier Totally agree. They certainly taste better in my view. I don't mind uncut, I won't turn someone down because they wear a cap, but I prefer a bald one " Taste better ? Dont talk daft | |||
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""Circumcision does not prevent HIV infection. The Auvert study in South Africa reported 20 infections in circumcised males. A study in Kenya reported 22 infections in circumcised males. Brewer & found higher rates of HIV infection in circumcised virgins and adolescents. The United States has the highest rate of HIV infection and the highest rate of male circumcision in the industrialized world. Male circumcision, therefore, cannot reasonably be thought to prevent HIV infection." " Both the public and the medical community must guard against being overwhelmed by the hyperbolic promotion of male circumcision and must receive these new studies with extreme caution. There is contradictory evidence that male circumcision is not as effective as proponents claim. One study found that male circumcision had no protective effect for women and another study found that male circumcision increased risk for women. Grosskurth found more HIV infection in circumcised men. Barongo et al. found no evidence that lack of circumcision is a risk factor for HIV infection. A study from India found little difference between circumcised and non-circumcised men in the conjugal relationship. A study carried out in South Africa found that male circumcision offered only a slight protective effect. A study carried out among American naval personnel found no difference in the incidence of HIV infection between non-circumcised and circumcised men." " All a bit irrelevant to me as my foreskin waved me goodbye just over 50 years ago and I don't expect to see it back anytime soon! | |||
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"Really, are people that specific?! Mind you, I have seen some specify maximum dress size and minimum cock size! Makes no difference to me, its the person I'm more interested in when looking for a meet." | |||
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"Personally I preferred cut, somehow feels sexier " Over here | |||
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"Me personally do prefer cut men aka circumcised it turns me on visually. Love seeing his head when he soft and hard! " Yep so agree with you there | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference? I do prefer cut, but wouldn't rule out un cut! Cut to me is cleaner, bigger and tastier There should be no difference in cleanliness so long as you know how to wash yourself, which hopefully everyone does anyway. As for bigger, I'm not sure how that works Circumcision does cause the skin on the glans to harden, thus reducing sensitivity - so less chance of a premature ending for you ladies. Personally I'd prefer to keep all of the nerve endings and the pleasure that they provide me. If it wasn't for circumcision being so prevalent in places like the US we'd probably think of it as being just as barbaric as FGM. " How naive can someone be. I know no examples of fgm done for medical reasons, but have a family member who was circumcised for medical reasons! | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference? I do prefer cut, but wouldn't rule out un cut! Cut to me is cleaner, bigger and tastier There should be no difference in cleanliness so long as you know how to wash yourself, which hopefully everyone does anyway. As for bigger, I'm not sure how that works Circumcision does cause the skin on the glans to harden, thus reducing sensitivity - so less chance of a premature ending for you ladies. Personally I'd prefer to keep all of the nerve endings and the pleasure that they provide me. If it wasn't for circumcision being so prevalent in places like the US we'd probably think of it as being just as barbaric as FGM. How naive can someone be. I know no examples of fgm done for medical reasons, but have a family member who was circumcised for medical reasons!" Of course some people have it done for genuine medical reasons and that is discussed elsewhere in the thread. However, I wasn't arguing against those reasons at this point, rather the cleaner, bigger, tastier comments. Genuine medical reasons such as tight foreskins etc are the only time that I agree that circumcision should be done. Doing it for religious or aesthetic reasons are no different from FGM. | |||
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"Uncut all the way for us, visually cut cocks do nothing for me and struggle when playing with one as there's nothing to play with Each to their own though, everyone is different and that's what makes it all fun. " Cut cock doesnt mean the cock is cut or part of it lol. Its still there to play with just uncovered head | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference? I do prefer cut, but wouldn't rule out un cut! Cut to me is cleaner, bigger and tastier There should be no difference in cleanliness so long as you know how to wash yourself, which hopefully everyone does anyway. As for bigger, I'm not sure how that works Circumcision does cause the skin on the glans to harden, thus reducing sensitivity - so less chance of a premature ending for you ladies. Personally I'd prefer to keep all of the nerve endings and the pleasure that they provide me. If it wasn't for circumcision being so prevalent in places like the US we'd probably think of it as being just as barbaric as FGM. How naive can someone be. I know no examples of fgm done for medical reasons, but have a family member who was circumcised for medical reasons! Of course some people have it done for genuine medical reasons and that is discussed elsewhere in the thread. However, I wasn't arguing against those reasons at this point, rather the cleaner, bigger, tastier comments. Genuine medical reasons such as tight foreskins etc are the only time that I agree that circumcision should be done. Doing it for religious or aesthetic reasons are no different from FGM. " Another pointless remark: if a guy chooses to have it done for his view of it being aesthetically pleasing, then how the hell do you compare it to fgm? | |||
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" Another pointless remark: if a guy chooses to have it done for his view of it being aesthetically pleasing, then how the hell do you compare it to fgm? " If a grown man chooses to do it because he thinks it's aesthetically pleasing that's fine, people can modify their own body however they please. Hell, I've seen pics of a guy who split his cock right down the middle! But whether it's that, scarring, implants or circumcision they're still all forms of mutilation. | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference? I do prefer cut, but wouldn't rule out un cut! Cut to me is cleaner, bigger and tastier There should be no difference in cleanliness so long as you know how to wash yourself, which hopefully everyone does anyway. As for bigger, I'm not sure how that works Circumcision does cause the skin on the glans to harden, thus reducing sensitivity - so less chance of a premature ending for you ladies. Personally I'd prefer to keep all of the nerve endings and the pleasure that they provide me. If it wasn't for circumcision being so prevalent in places like the US we'd probably think of it as being just as barbaric as FGM. How naive can someone be. I know no examples of fgm done for medical reasons, but have a family member who was circumcised for medical reasons! Of course some people have it done for genuine medical reasons and that is discussed elsewhere in the thread. However, I wasn't arguing against those reasons at this point, rather the cleaner, bigger, tastier comments. Genuine medical reasons such as tight foreskins etc are the only time that I agree that circumcision should be done. Doing it for religious or aesthetic reasons are no different from FGM. Another pointless remark: if a guy chooses to have it done for his view of it being aesthetically pleasing, then how the hell do you compare it to fgm? " The third population of the planet is doing it for religious reason and they wont agree with you in that matter. I had it done at the age of 4 and I would be furious if my parents havent done it and I will do it to my kids just too. | |||
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" Another pointless remark: if a guy chooses to have it done for his view of it being aesthetically pleasing, then how the hell do you compare it to fgm? If a grown man chooses to do it because he thinks it's aesthetically pleasing that's fine, people can modify their own body however they please. Hell, I've seen pics of a guy who split his cock right down the middle! But whether it's that, scarring, implants or circumcision they're still all forms of mutilation. " For aesthetic reasons, surgery comes under cosmetic surgery. FGM is abuse in this country and as such illegal! Stop with the inane comparison. | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference? I do prefer cut, but wouldn't rule out un cut! Cut to me is cleaner, bigger and tastier There should be no difference in cleanliness so long as you know how to wash yourself, which hopefully everyone does anyway. As for bigger, I'm not sure how that works Circumcision does cause the skin on the glans to harden, thus reducing sensitivity - so less chance of a premature ending for you ladies. Personally I'd prefer to keep all of the nerve endings and the pleasure that they provide me. If it wasn't for circumcision being so prevalent in places like the US we'd probably think of it as being just as barbaric as FGM. How naive can someone be. I know no examples of fgm done for medical reasons, but have a family member who was circumcised for medical reasons! Of course some people have it done for genuine medical reasons and that is discussed elsewhere in the thread. However, I wasn't arguing against those reasons at this point, rather the cleaner, bigger, tastier comments. Genuine medical reasons such as tight foreskins etc are the only time that I agree that circumcision should be done. Doing it for religious or aesthetic reasons are no different from FGM. Another pointless remark: if a guy chooses to have it done for his view of it being aesthetically pleasing, then how the hell do you compare it to fgm? The third population of the planet is doing it for religious reason and they wont agree with you in that matter. I had it done at the age of 4 and I would be furious if my parents havent done it and I will do it to my kids just too. " Furious?? | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles specifying cut guys only, so I was wondering why the preference? I do prefer cut, but wouldn't rule out un cut! Cut to me is cleaner, bigger and tastier There should be no difference in cleanliness so long as you know how to wash yourself, which hopefully everyone does anyway. As for bigger, I'm not sure how that works Circumcision does cause the skin on the glans to harden, thus reducing sensitivity - so less chance of a premature ending for you ladies. Personally I'd prefer to keep all of the nerve endings and the pleasure that they provide me. If it wasn't for circumcision being so prevalent in places like the US we'd probably think of it as being just as barbaric as FGM. How naive can someone be. I know no examples of fgm done for medical reasons, but have a family member who was circumcised for medical reasons! Of course some people have it done for genuine medical reasons and that is discussed elsewhere in the thread. However, I wasn't arguing against those reasons at this point, rather the cleaner, bigger, tastier comments. Genuine medical reasons such as tight foreskins etc are the only time that I agree that circumcision should be done. Doing it for religious or aesthetic reasons are no different from FGM. Another pointless remark: if a guy chooses to have it done for his view of it being aesthetically pleasing, then how the hell do you compare it to fgm? The third population of the planet is doing it for religious reason and they wont agree with you in that matter. I had it done at the age of 4 and I would be furious if my parents havent done it and I will do it to my kids just too. " Wouldn't agree with what? I have purposefully side-stepped away from the religious aspect. | |||
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" Another pointless remark: if a guy chooses to have it done for his view of it being aesthetically pleasing, then how the hell do you compare it to fgm? If a grown man chooses to do it because he thinks it's aesthetically pleasing that's fine, people can modify their own body however they please. Hell, I've seen pics of a guy who split his cock right down the middle! But whether it's that, scarring, implants or circumcision they're still all forms of mutilation. For aesthetic reasons, surgery comes under cosmetic surgery. FGM is abuse in this country and as such illegal! Stop with the inane comparison." So, if you circumcise a baby boy, who has no choice over the matter and no understanding of why it's happening, for religious or aesthetic reasons, what do you call that? If you replace baby boy with baby girl it's called mutilation but because it's the norm in some areas of the world it's suddenly ok? | |||
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" Another pointless remark: if a guy chooses to have it done for his view of it being aesthetically pleasing, then how the hell do you compare it to fgm? If a grown man chooses to do it because he thinks it's aesthetically pleasing that's fine, people can modify their own body however they please. Hell, I've seen pics of a guy who split his cock right down the middle! But whether it's that, scarring, implants or circumcision they're still all forms of mutilation. For aesthetic reasons, surgery comes under cosmetic surgery. FGM is abuse in this country and as such illegal! Stop with the inane comparison. So, if you circumcise a baby boy, who has no choice over the matter and no understanding of why it's happening, for religious or aesthetic reasons, what do you call that? If you replace baby boy with baby girl it's called mutilation but because it's the norm in some areas of the world it's suddenly ok? " I've already stated I've side-stepped away from that. You have back-tracked and agree that circumcision is fine for medical reasons and for choice. When you wanted the entire subject compared to fgm. Now argue your comparisons with someone who has had it for religious reasons! | |||
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" Another pointless remark: if a guy chooses to have it done for his view of it being aesthetically pleasing, then how the hell do you compare it to fgm? If a grown man chooses to do it because he thinks it's aesthetically pleasing that's fine, people can modify their own body however they please. Hell, I've seen pics of a guy who split his cock right down the middle! But whether it's that, scarring, implants or circumcision they're still all forms of mutilation. For aesthetic reasons, surgery comes under cosmetic surgery. FGM is abuse in this country and as such illegal! Stop with the inane comparison. So, if you circumcise a baby boy, who has no choice over the matter and no understanding of why it's happening, for religious or aesthetic reasons, what do you call that? If you replace baby boy with baby girl it's called mutilation but because it's the norm in some areas of the world it's suddenly ok? I've already stated I've side-stepped away from that. You have back-tracked and agree that circumcision is fine for medical reasons and for choice. When you wanted the entire subject compared to fgm. Now argue your comparisons with someone who has had it for religious reasons!" lolol thats me . Kids dont have choice on many things tgat affect the whole course of their life. Many of thoses are still made by parents who are legally and morally responsible for their kids and they are entitled to make choices for their kids untill they are mature enough to decide for themselves. Most of us are proud of our backgrounds they are different, often contradictive but still they define us and we havent chose them | |||
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" Another pointless remark: if a guy chooses to have it done for his view of it being aesthetically pleasing, then how the hell do you compare it to fgm? If a grown man chooses to do it because he thinks it's aesthetically pleasing that's fine, people can modify their own body however they please. Hell, I've seen pics of a guy who split his cock right down the middle! But whether it's that, scarring, implants or circumcision they're still all forms of mutilation. For aesthetic reasons, surgery comes under cosmetic surgery. FGM is abuse in this country and as such illegal! Stop with the inane comparison. So, if you circumcise a baby boy, who has no choice over the matter and no understanding of why it's happening, for religious or aesthetic reasons, what do you call that? If you replace baby boy with baby girl it's called mutilation but because it's the norm in some areas of the world it's suddenly ok? I've already stated I've side-stepped away from that. You have back-tracked and agree that circumcision is fine for medical reasons and for choice. When you wanted the entire subject compared to fgm. Now argue your comparisons with someone who has had it for religious reasons!" I haven't back tracked at all, I never once said medical reasons weren't fine and grown adults can do what they want to their bodies. My argument has ways been against doing it to children for the adults own selfish reasons - In that respect it's no different from female circumcision other than that for some reason that completely escapes me it's socially acceptable in large parts of the world. | |||
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" Another pointless remark: if a guy chooses to have it done for his view of it being aesthetically pleasing, then how the hell do you compare it to fgm? If a grown man chooses to do it because he thinks it's aesthetically pleasing that's fine, people can modify their own body however they please. Hell, I've seen pics of a guy who split his cock right down the middle! But whether it's that, scarring, implants or circumcision they're still all forms of mutilation. For aesthetic reasons, surgery comes under cosmetic surgery. FGM is abuse in this country and as such illegal! Stop with the inane comparison. So, if you circumcise a baby boy, who has no choice over the matter and no understanding of why it's happening, for religious or aesthetic reasons, what do you call that? If you replace baby boy with baby girl it's called mutilation but because it's the norm in some areas of the world it's suddenly ok? I've already stated I've side-stepped away from that. You have back-tracked and agree that circumcision is fine for medical reasons and for choice. When you wanted the entire subject compared to fgm. Now argue your comparisons with someone who has had it for religious reasons! I haven't back tracked at all, I never once said medical reasons weren't fine and grown adults can do what they want to their bodies. My argument has ways been against doing it to children for the adults own selfish reasons - In that respect it's no different from female circumcision other than that for some reason that completely escapes me it's socially acceptable in large parts of the world. " I have never heard of one person from that large part of the world complaining about it once grown up. I am sure they will complain if their parents haven't done it in the other case. | |||
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" I have never heard of one person from that large part of the world complaining about it once grown up. I am sure they will complain if their parents haven't done it in the other case. " I posted a link to a YouTube video earlier in this thread, if you watch that you'll see a number of guys complaining about their parents choice to have the procedure done, some of them doctors. Just search for Penn and Teller bullshit circumcision on you tube, it's a 30 min programme but well worth a watch. | |||
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" I have never heard of one person from that large part of the world complaining about it once grown up. I am sure they will complain if their parents haven't done it in the other case. I posted a link to a YouTube video earlier in this thread, if you watch that you'll see a number of guys complaining about their parents choice to have the procedure done, some of them doctors. Just search for Penn and Teller bullshit circumcision on you tube, it's a 30 min programme but well worth a watch." The US is not part of the world where its done through religious beleifs. well apart from a minority of tje population. Those cases are very rare exceptions | |||
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"Please someone correct me if i'm wrong but i thought this thread was cut vs uncut cocks and what members prefered? How'd we get on to genital mutilation I accept it's an open forum but talk about missing the point by a mile!! " Actually it seems to have evolved into a sword fight between two guys about which one is best. Seeing as neither will ever experience sex in the way the other does, it seems a bit daft to me. | |||
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"Please someone correct me if i'm wrong but i thought this thread was cut vs uncut cocks and what members prefered? How'd we get on to genital mutilation I accept it's an open forum but talk about missing the point by a mile!! " So do you prefer the feeling of a cut or uncut cock then? | |||
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"Please someone correct me if i'm wrong but i thought this thread was cut vs uncut cocks and what members prefered? How'd we get on to genital mutilation I accept it's an open forum but talk about missing the point by a mile!! Actually it seems to have evolved into a sword fight between two guys about which one is best. Seeing as neither will ever experience sex in the way the other does, it seems a bit daft to me." Well I'm done arguing anyway. I just think that people should be able to make an informed choice rather than have the decision forced upon them. Whether women prefer it one way or the other is irrelevant to me. | |||
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"Please someone correct me if i'm wrong but i thought this thread was cut vs uncut cocks and what members prefered? How'd we get on to genital mutilation I accept it's an open forum but talk about missing the point by a mile!! So do you prefer the feeling of a cut or uncut cock then? " I like the look of yours sweetheart | |||
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"Please someone correct me if i'm wrong but i thought this thread was cut vs uncut cocks and what members prefered? How'd we get on to genital mutilation I accept it's an open forum but talk about missing the point by a mile!! Actually it seems to have evolved into a sword fight between two guys about which one is best. Seeing as neither will ever experience sex in the way the other does, it seems a bit daft to me. Well I'm done arguing anyway. I just think that people should be able to make an informed choice rather than have the decision forced upon them. Whether women prefer it one way or the other is irrelevant to me. " If you change your mind and want it cut just call your ex and she'll happily do it for free | |||
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"... Well I'm done arguing anyway. I just think that people should be able to make an informed choice rather than have the decision forced upon them. Whether women prefer it one way or the other is irrelevant to me..." Not wanting to get in to or continue an argument but why have you posted then The whole thread was about preference for cut or not and what members thought from a sexual point of view so peoples opinions from that point of view is relevant!! As i said before it's an open forum and everyone's allowed to post what they want. Threads can go in any direction when they start but to say it's irrelevant what peoples (yes peoples not just women!!) shows how far off topic you were. If the topic was about circumcision and whether it was male genital mutilation to have it done as a child then i see your point of view (not saying i agree with it but i do see where you are coming from) but it isnt so let's get this thing back on topic & not make it a cock fight | |||
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"... Well I'm done arguing anyway. I just think that people should be able to make an informed choice rather than have the decision forced upon them. Whether women prefer it one way or the other is irrelevant to me... Not wanting to get in to or continue an argument but why have you posted then The whole thread was about preference for cut or not and what members thought from a sexual point of view so peoples opinions from that point of view is relevant!! As i said before it's an open forum and everyone's allowed to post what they want. Threads can go in any direction when they start but to say it's irrelevant what peoples (yes peoples not just women!!) shows how far off topic you were. If the topic was about circumcision and whether it was male genital mutilation to have it done as a child then i see your point of view (not saying i agree with it but i do see where you are coming from) but it isnt so let's get this thing back on topic & not make it a cock fight " I said their preference was irrelevant to me, not the thread. If you read a the comments from the start you'll see I got drawn into the argument gradually and was by no means the only one with the opinion that circumcision is unnecessary mutilation of a child's penis. As for the issue of women's or people's preference, as a straight man it would only ever be the women's opinion that would matter to me. But to pick up on your argument, I am a man and uncut is my preference - because that's what I have. So my opinion is just as valid as anyone else's on this thread. | |||
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"Or is it only acceptable to cut up (and frequently disfigure) male genitals over a wrongly percieved medical advantage? There are actual medical benefits to having the procedure done. Admittedly they are very minor but they are there. Name them then. " http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Circumcision/Pages/Why-is-it-necessary.aspx Of course I'm rashly trusting that the NHS web site is reliable... | |||
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"Or is it only acceptable to cut up (and frequently disfigure) male genitals over a wrongly percieved medical advantage? There are actual medical benefits to having the procedure done. Admittedly they are very minor but they are there. Name them then. http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Circumcision/Pages/Why-is-it-necessary.aspx Of course I'm rashly trusting that the NHS web site is reliable..." Only for one of those conditions did the site say it was necessary, the rest were all treatable in other ways with circumcision being the last resort. Anyway, I thought I was done with this thread, I have made my opinion abundantly clear several times over. | |||
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"well mine is cut and theres nothing I can do about it Just remembered the Friends episode where Joey has to find a foreskin fast. Its very funny." ye joey trying to glue a foreskin on funny | |||
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