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"We know what we like so don't judge us you be surprised how many do and how many guys try to play without there other halves It wouldn't surprise me at all... But if people are up front then ive not got a problem as long as they accept we don't play bare x Cali " Hmm it's the tone of the last comment made. To that end as a couple OP you should also be wary then. And frankly yes I would be very very surprised. | |||
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"We know what we like so don't judge us you be surprised how many do and how many guys try to play without there other halves It wouldn't surprise me at all... But if people are up front then ive not got a problem as long as they accept we don't play bare x Cali Hmm it's the tone of the last comment made. To that end as a couple OP you should also be wary then. And frankly yes I would be very very surprised. " With the amount of guys that have tried to sneak bareback when we are playing with couples I can well believe it... Xx | |||
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"We also practice safe sex but have a preference which our choice " You can't do both, it's one or the other.... | |||
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"We also practice safe sex but have a preference which our choice You can't do both, it's one or the other...." If course you can. Sometimes you play bare, other times it's safer sex. I wish the term safe wasn't used though. Maybe protected or lower risk. But not safe as so many seem to think that condom use makes them safe. | |||
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"We also practice safe sex but have a preference which our choice You can't do both, it's one or the other.... If course you can. Sometimes you play bare, other times it's safer sex. I wish the term safe wasn't used though. Maybe protected or lower risk. But not safe as so many seem to think that condom use makes them safe. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We also practice safe sex but have a preference which our choice " ok, OP, you seem to make posts about this every now and then, yet on he ones you contribute to, i dont see anyone singling YOU out personally. it seems you have more of an issue with you barebacking than anyone else does, being honest | |||
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"We have no issues we have a preference" so why start posts as if you have been abused for it, then, when your profile doesnt say you do it, and your contributions to the bareback threads are generally minimal. you are the only ones bringing any attention to the fact you do it. being honest, no one cares. its your lives its your health do with it as you wish. you are the only ones making out you are victims. no one else is making you them | |||
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"We have no issues we have a preference so why start posts as if you have been abused for it, then, when your profile doesnt say you do it, " There profile does state they do it. | |||
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" it seems you have more of an issue with you barebacking than anyone else does, being honest" ![]() | |||
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"We have no issues we have a preference so why start posts as if you have been abused for it, then, when your profile doesnt say you do it, There profile does state they do it. " your right. i must have missed it. too much to read lol | |||
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"Not only do I value my sexual health, I also value that of my partner's. Also, as the only safe sex is no sex, I like to consider my swinging and kinky friend's sexual health too by reducing the risk of passing anything onto them as much as I can. In my opinion, by playing bareback, not only do you put your own sexual health at greater risk, you also put the sexual health of everyone else you play with at higher risk. crystal" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We have no issues we have a preference so why start posts as if you have been abused for it, then, when your profile doesnt say you do it, There profile does state they do it. your right. i must have missed it. too much to read lol" It is on the profile title lol | |||
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" Its you guys who are offended by our taste " But is that not the reaction you want? | |||
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"The reaction we get is normally sent through private message its you guys who are swiping our tastes and preferences is swinging not different strokes for different folks " I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. | |||
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"We also practice safe sex but have a preference which our choice You can't do both, it's one or the other.... If course you can. Sometimes you play bare, other times it's safer sex. I wish the term safe wasn't used though. Maybe protected or lower risk. But not safe as so many seem to think that condom use makes them safe. " What I was trying to say is that they can't say they practise safe sex then start a thread saying they only do bareback ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We also practice safe sex but have a preference which our choice You can't do both, it's one or the other.... If course you can. Sometimes you play bare, other times it's safer sex. I wish the term safe wasn't used though. Maybe protected or lower risk. But not safe as so many seem to think that condom use makes them safe. What I was trying to say is that they can't say they practise safe sex then start a thread saying they only do bareback ![]() ![]() They didn't say they only do it though. X | |||
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"Because is this not a forum for all or only select few?" Yes its a forum to discuss, but you haven't asked peoples opinion, you have simply made a statement. | |||
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"But why start a thread on the same subject over and over then get all defensive when people don't agree with you? ![]() ![]() | |||
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" If you wan't to play Russian Roulette with your sexual health then carry on but at least be honest about it and put it on your profile for all to see! ![]() I always find Russian roulette a bit over kill on this topic.. as dying from a car accident is actually more likely. And it is on the profile | |||
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"We have taken no offence you guys have we just stating a preference and our profile does say we prefer Bareback we will play safe Its you guys who are offended by our taste " again, no one is offended by your preferences. they have said its not for them. no one has said you are evil/nasty/slutty whatever words you are inventing that people are meant to be saying about you. again, i say, you are starting a post, unprompted, about your preference, so you are putting yourself inline to get shot at, like it or not. why? why draw attention to yourselves more than your profile already does? if people want to play bare with you guys, they will find you. i dont know if its worth the feelings you have of everyone hating you just to maybe get a couple of extra people that want a bare shag... | |||
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"Its a forum and are we not free to post on it" Of course you are. And equally so are those who don't share your preference. | |||
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"Its a forum and are we not free to post on it" of course, as are others. if they dont like what you do, dont cry about it | |||
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"We are not it people crying about what we do " Nobody is 'Crying' what you do, but you have started a thread about bareback and other's are voicing their opinions! If you don't want their opinions then don't start threads look at me, look at me, look at me!!! | |||
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"Think your find we never mention bare back in our post it says about guys wanting to play alone so no me me me " What about the thread title? | |||
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"Think your find we never mention bare back in our post it says about guys wanting to play alone so no me me me " The thread title was bareback so how the hell did you not mention it? | |||
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"Think your find we never mention bare back in our post it says about guys wanting to play alone so no me me me " Now I think you are just trolling!! Thread title started by you = Bareback OP = We know what we like so don't judge us you be surprised how many do. (I.e = do bareback.) .....and how many guys try to play without there other halves (a separate point made in the same sentance) So yes you DO very much mention bareback. | |||
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"The purpose is to meet like minded people" so stop winging you Know it gets Reaction. and make sure you name the like minded people so i can stay away | |||
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"Clearly the majority of people are Sensible and Health aware so you clearly Know this so Dont keep posting on forums about your Fondness for risky business as you already Know you will get Backlash so just keep it to your Profile and post about Something else " why cant we post our likes and being told we will be attacked is that against our rights to post | |||
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"The purpose is to meet like minded people" So why not just put that as the thread title, or put that in the OP? | |||
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"The purpose is to meet like minded people so stop winging you Know it gets Reaction. and make sure you name the like minded people so i can stay away" you are moaning not us | |||
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"The purpose is to meet like minded people So why not just put that as the thread title, or put that in the OP? " | |||
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"The purpose is to meet like minded people so stop winging you Know it gets Reaction. and make sure you name the like minded people so i can stay awayyou are moaning not us" pah have a read Back | |||
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"The purpose is to meet like minded people" glad you didnt say RIGHT minded people lol | |||
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"We aint we been told to expect backlash cos our taste " But why actively court the backlash? | |||
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"We aint we been told to expect backlash cos our taste But why actively court the backlash? " All done for a reaction to try upset everybody!!! | |||
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"We know what we like so don't judge us you be surprised how many do and how many guys try to play without there other halves " that's nice to know, thanks for sharing ![]() | |||
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"It would actually be good if people could have a sensible discussion about this without the 'OMG we're all going to die' overeactions." ![]() | |||
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"It would actually be good if people could have a sensible discussion about this without the 'OMG we're all going to die' overeactions. ![]() There are lots and lots of things humans do, by choice, that alter their chances of mortality Bareback is one of many that people do but because of the forum we're on the most contentious one If we were on an anti smoking or drinking site the balance of what makes people's blood boil would clearly be different As with all of these things that alter risk the key is to be aware of it and then if people choose to do x or y etc then it's their choice Protection is a personal thing on here, if you protect yourself then what others do should be of no concern | |||
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"It would actually be good if people could have a sensible discussion about this without the 'OMG we're all going to die' overeactions. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Don't see the big issue, if people decide to play uninhibited then good for them, it's their call and it does add to the experience. Were all adults and all capable of making up our own minds about something. I wonder how many people who are dead against it smoke and drink, both are bad for you but I'm sure it doesn't stop you." ![]() | |||
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"What i don't understand is couples who say they wont play with others that do bare back. surely by doing swinging as a hobby and doing it only with condoms you think they will protect you so having sex with people that do bareback will be ok as long as you do it with protection. " I be more worried if couples thought that they were at no risk having protected sex with people who didn't advertise they do bareback You should assume everyone, and I mean everyone you sleep with has at some point in their life barebacked and to be honest you'll almost certainly be right Then make your decisions on what risks you do and don't take accordingly, but to assume anything because of an absence in a profile is highly naive | |||
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"Don't see the big issue, if people decide to play uninhibited then good for them, it's their call and it does add to the experience. Were all adults and all capable of making up our own minds about something. I wonder how many people who are dead against it smoke and drink, both are bad for you but I'm sure it doesn't stop you." Think you should do a bit of reading before you compare the risks from drinking and (even) smoking to having unprotected sex with strangers. Unless someone is actually blowing smoke into my face then the fact they smoke is indeed totally their concern. As far as I am aware it isn't possible for me to contract anything life-threatening from someone who drinks alcohol. on the other hand, irresponsible people who have bareback sex with strangers pose a risk to everyone else who sleeps with anyone they have slept with and so on. Condoms can break. Diseases can be passed orally. It's a bit like doing 120 on the M1. You might get away with it. you might not have an accident. But you're far more likely to, and if you do the consequences for you and others are likely to be far worse than if you weren't speeding. And then imagine if everyone did it. The fact that there are people on here with these views and we come across these threads and profiles from time to time puts us right off this lifestyle. Amazing that such reckless views still exist in the face of all the evidence. I make no apologies for this stance, and call us what you will, absolutely don't care. But at least don't call us irresponsible. | |||
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"Don't see the big issue, if people decide to play uninhibited then good for them, it's their call and it does add to the experience. Were all adults and all capable of making up our own minds about something. I wonder how many people who are dead against it smoke and drink, both are bad for you but I'm sure it doesn't stop you. Think you should do a bit of reading before you compare the risks from drinking and (even) smoking to having unprotected sex with strangers. Unless someone is actually blowing smoke into my face then the fact they smoke is indeed totally their concern. As far as I am aware it isn't possible for me to contract anything life-threatening from someone who drinks alcohol. on the other hand, irresponsible people who have bareback sex with strangers pose a risk to everyone else who sleeps with anyone they have slept with and so on. Condoms can break. Diseases can be passed orally. It's a bit like doing 120 on the M1. You might get away with it. you might not have an accident. But you're far more likely to, and if you do the consequences for you and others are likely to be far worse than if you weren't speeding. And then imagine if everyone did it. The fact that there are people on here with these views and we come across these threads and profiles from time to time puts us right off this lifestyle. Amazing that such reckless views still exist in the face of all the evidence. I make no apologies for this stance, and call us what you will, absolutely don't care. But at least don't call us irresponsible." | |||
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" It's a bit like doing 120 on the M1. You might get away with it. you might not have an accident. But you're far more likely to, and if you do the consequences for you and others are likely to be far worse than if you weren't speeding. And then imagine if everyone did it. " This is the sort of scaremongering that makes discussion difficult. Why are you more likely to have an accident, and compared to what? | |||
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"You're making the false assumption that everyone you sleep with unprotected carries life threatening diseases. Smoking on the other hand does cause life threatening diseases which can't be argued and drinking while legal is as life threatening as smoking when done in excess! Comparing the two things was simply to make a point that unprotected sex while risky isn't the life threatening pass time half the people on this site would have you think. I don't condone unprotected sex with random strangers as a lifestyle choice but it's everyone's choice when entering into this lifestyle how they choose to proceed. " 1. No such assumpion was made at all, in fact quite the opposite. Read the post again 2. Drinking and smoking do not affect other people than teh drinker and smoker. Read the post again. 3. I think you should read about how unprotected sex *can* be fatal. 4. Of course it is everyone's choice. As it is everyone's choice not to commit armed robbery, or drive at 120 on the M1. Just because people have a choice it doesn't follow that every choice which is available to them is a sensible or socially acceptable one. | |||
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" It's a bit like doing 120 on the M1. You might get away with it. you might not have an accident. But you're far more likely to, and if you do the consequences for you and others are likely to be far worse than if you weren't speeding. And then imagine if everyone did it. This is the sort of scaremongering that makes discussion difficult. Why are you more likely to have an accident, and compared to what?" Not quite sure why you would regard this as scaremongering. It is a reasonable metaphor, sorry you weren't able to see it as such. | |||
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"The problem with it as a metaphor is that you are comparing one emotive subject (barebacking) with another emotive subject (speeding), both subjects that stir up the forums. It would be really good if we could have a discussion on this that used real data. Doing 120mph on the M1 in the middle of the night when the road is quiet is probably safer than walking upstairs. Doing it southbound past Luton at 10.00 am on a Monday morning is a hell of a lot more dangerous than shagging someone bareback in a swingers club." ah, but if you are shagging bareback, while doing 120 mph on he M1, then i think thats the end of the universe. im here to be corrected though ![]() | |||
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"What i don't understand is couples who say they wont play with others that do bare back. surely by doing swinging as a hobby and doing it only with condoms you think they will protect you so having sex with people that do bareback will be ok as long as you do it with protection. I be more worried if couples thought that they were at no risk having protected sex with people who didn't advertise they do bareback You should assume everyone, and I mean everyone you sleep with has at some point in their life barebacked and to be honest you'll almost certainly be right Then make your decisions on what risks you do and don't take accordingly, but to assume anything because of an absence in a profile is highly naive " ^^^^^100% this! ![]() | |||
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"If they start the thread as a wanted ad, they cant post in this section and from what I've seen posting in the meet requests bit; doesn't get a response. This isn't the first thread along these lines the op has started. D So the op isnt stating a preference. The op is not posting a meet request, The op is just trying to wind everyone up. I didnt bother posting on their other one, I wont bother posting on any of the op's again. Until people just ignore these and they crash and burn, they will cycle round and round. Come on people dont feed the trolls at any time ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I play safe but I like pulling off the condom and cum going over tits face or ass. and its good for my skin so not a waste ![]() And hair, those protein shampoos cost a fortune ![]() | |||
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"I play safe but I like pulling off the condom and cum going over tits face or ass. and its good for my skin so not a waste ![]() ![]() Waste not Want not ![]() | |||
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"If they start the thread as a wanted ad, they cant post in this section and from what I've seen posting in the meet requests bit; doesn't get a response. This isn't the first thread along these lines the op has started. D So the op isnt stating a preference. The op is not posting a meet request, The op is just trying to wind everyone up. I didnt bother posting on their other one, I wont bother posting on any of the op's again. Until people just ignore these and they crash and burn, they will cycle round and round. Come on people dont feed the trolls at any time ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"If they start the thread as a wanted ad, they cant post in this section and from what I've seen posting in the meet requests bit; doesn't get a response. This isn't the first thread along these lines the op has started. D So the op isnt stating a preference. The op is not posting a meet request, The op is just trying to wind everyone up. I didnt bother posting on their other one, I wont bother posting on any of the op's again. Until people just ignore these and they crash and burn, they will cycle round and round. Come on people dont feed the trolls at any time ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() it was not a wind up or a reaction its to find like minded people who understand our likes | |||
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"If they start the thread as a wanted ad, they cant post in this section and from what I've seen posting in the meet requests bit; doesn't get a response. This isn't the first thread along these lines the op has started. D So the op isnt stating a preference. The op is not posting a meet request, The op is just trying to wind everyone up. I didnt bother posting on their other one, I wont bother posting on any of the op's again. Until people just ignore these and they crash and burn, they will cycle round and round. Come on people dont feed the trolls at any time ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"we agree about the safety issues but our question is... does anyone know anyone who has caught anything ???? was it a club meet that they caught it ?? was it bareback or protected ?? it would be good to set up a forum of places to avoid or at risk sexually or physically " A forum for places that are a risk sexually. Well any sex with others is going to be a risk. Yes we know someone.. x | |||
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"What always makes me laugh about these threads is that its always the same people who come out and criticise those for talking about bareback and having "safe sex" on their profiles. Like you can't do both? Maybe "safe sex", condoms with casual partners, and bareback with a regular? Maybe people like that -does that then "allow" them to have both on their profile? Ridiculous small mindedness." ![]() | |||
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"You say you like going bareback, but it doesn't say that in your interests. It just says safe sex. It's a bit misleading isn't it. " we can do both you know | |||
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"You say you like going bareback, but it doesn't say that in your interests. It just says safe sex. It's a bit misleading isn't it. we can do both you know " being fair and even minded, there is no listing in interests to show bareback | |||
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"You say you like going bareback, but it doesn't say that in your interests. It just says safe sex. It's a bit misleading isn't it. we can do both you know " Then shouldn't you have bareback in your list of preferences to then. | |||
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"We know what we like so don't judge us you be surprised how many do and how many guys try to play without there other halves " We won't judge, please don't judge us for not joining in, also . we don't play separately except sometimes in clubs, so can we also not be judged on that too please. ![]() | |||
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