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"Not at all. My reason for going to a swingers club is to get dressed up. Have a drink. Dance, meet up with some like minded friends and if I get to play with someone as well that's a bonus. If I just wanted a shag I could ring an fb and have them come round my house. In a normal nightclub if I met someone I liked I couldn't fuck em in a side room without getting into trouble. It's the whole package for me at a club I don't go in there with 'I must get laid' blinkers on. " | |||
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"You're so right!! People should be shagging the moment they walk through the door. There should be a queue that guys can get in and as soon as a woman finishes shagging one guy, the next guys can shag her. It's disgusting that people chat and make friends. Talking in swinging clubs should be illegal." Oooh which one's that then! I'll book for next year. | |||
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"You're so right!! People should be shagging the moment they walk through the door. There should be a queue that guys can get in and as soon as a woman finishes shagging one guy, the next guys can shag her. It's disgusting that people chat and make friends. Talking in swinging clubs should be illegal." | |||
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"People only want to have sex at midnight so they can say they lasted 2 years " | |||
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"You're so right!! People should be shagging the moment they walk through the door. There should be a queue that guys can get in and as soon as a woman finishes shagging one guy, the next guys can shag her. It's disgusting that people chat and make friends. Talking in swinging clubs should be illegal." +1 | |||
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"and its this mentality that stops us going to clubs. " Not everyone's like that, most people are really nice and respectful. Just the small minority that spoil it. | |||
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"and its this mentality that stops us going to clubs. " Ah yes because this one posters opinion on this forum (which no one has agreed with) represents the majority out there (it doesn't). You pay your money to go a club you can do what you want, drink, dance, chat, go home have sexy fun, watch sexy fun, there is no expectation (from the clubs) or from 99% of the people in attendance. | |||
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"and its this mentality that stops us going to clubs. " This is what me a nervous wreck the first time I went, visions of just everyone in some massive orgy and blokes chasing woman round pestering them. But It was nothing like that and the place I go doesn't limit single guys so you hear stories but it was fine!! | |||
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"and its this mentality that stops us going to clubs. Not everyone's like that, most people are really nice and respectful. Just the small minority that spoil it. " we get that, but you know yourself, its the squeakiest wheel that gets the most oil. the respectful ones that are happy to go and take it as it comes are not the ones that post up and scream 'why do we go to swinging clubs and have sex with people!!!' so, the ONLY comments you see from club attendees are the ones that seem to think you HAVE to fuck, or you best just sit on the street outside until you are prepared to. | |||
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"and its this mentality that stops us going to clubs. This is what me a nervous wreck the first time I went, visions of just everyone in some massive orgy and blokes chasing woman round pestering them. But It was nothing like that and the place I go doesn't limit single guys so you hear stories but it was fine!! " Was this your visit to Eurekas hottie?? Nervous abaout seeing naked people ..lol .. You did well girl we had fun. | |||
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"and its this mentality that stops us going to clubs. This is what me a nervous wreck the first time I went, visions of just everyone in some massive orgy and blokes chasing woman round pestering them. But It was nothing like that and the place I go doesn't limit single guys so you hear stories but it was fine!! Was this your visit to Eurekas hottie?? Nervous abaout seeing naked people ..lol .. You did well girl we had fun. " Yep!! We did didn't we!! Brilliant night xx | |||
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"and its this mentality that stops us going to clubs. This is what me a nervous wreck the first time I went, visions of just everyone in some massive orgy and blokes chasing woman round pestering them. But It was nothing like that and the place I go doesn't limit single guys so you hear stories but it was fine!! " This is how imagined it and if I didn't want to play I'd get pressured etc luckily I've had my mind put at ease. | |||
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"Just reading about some of the comments from people about NYE. They say stuff about dressing up, dancing, drinking, partying, chatting but nothing about fucking. It seems to me that a lot of people are missing the point about swingers clubs. At midnight I want to be balls deep in a sexy female seeing in the new year. I do not want to be d*unk on the dance floor, I could do that in a normal club or bar. Too many people treat swingers clubs like normal venues, if you're not there to have sexy fun then why bother going? I'm not naming any names, but one swingers club is notorious for being more like a nightclub than a swingers club which keeps me from going there. There is nothing wrong with the social side of clubs but if you only want to get dressed up, chat, drink and dance then you really need to ask yourself, why are you in a swingers club?" So its wrong to go to a disco and not dance, a pub and not get d*unk, a race and not bet!!!! | |||
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"Not at all. My reason for going to a swingers club is to get dressed up. Have a drink. Dance, meet up with some like minded friends and if I get to play with someone as well that's a bonus. If I just wanted a shag I could ring an fb and have them come round my house. In a normal nightclub if I met someone I liked I couldn't fuck em in a side room without getting into trouble. It's the whole package for me at a club I don't go in there with 'I must get laid' blinkers on. " ^^^ this... Couldn't have said it better | |||
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"clubs have been taken over by the soft swinger brigade. As the OP points out pubs and "normal" nightclubs already exist for getting dressed up, dancing and getting pissed. " No what he means is he wants to go somewhere shag someone without putting any input or effort, just presuming he has paid his entrance fee so can shag anyone and everyone . Even in. A swingers club you must put in some effort surely even if you say please after " giz a shag babes" | |||
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"clubs have been taken over by the soft swinger brigade. As the OP points out pubs and "normal" nightclubs already exist for getting dressed up, dancing and getting pissed. " the clubs are there for all types of swingers. I never drink whilst there, but I'm not there to fuck anything and anyone. | |||
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"Just reading about some of the comments from people about NYE. They say stuff about dressing up, dancing, drinking, partying, chatting but nothing about fucking. It seems to me that a lot of people are missing the point about swingers clubs. At midnight I want to be balls deep in a sexy female seeing in the new year. I do not want to be d*unk on the dance floor, I could do that in a normal club or bar. Too many people treat swingers clubs like normal venues, if you're not there to have sexy fun then why bother going? I'm not naming any names, but one swingers club is notorious for being more like a nightclub than a swingers club which keeps me from going there. There is nothing wrong with the social side of clubs but if you only want to get dressed up, chat, drink and dance then you really need to ask yourself, why are you in a swingers club?" We rarely play in swingers clubs, we dress up have a few drinks and socialise, we are there for our own entertainment and enjoyment, that may seem selfish to some but then so is waltzing into a club and expecting to get an instant fuck. Clubs like swinging as a whole require you to work at it to get what you want rather than getting what you expect to get. | |||
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"Just reading about some of the comments from people about NYE. They say stuff about dressing up, dancing, drinking, partying, chatting but nothing about fucking. It seems to me that a lot of people are missing the point about swingers clubs. At midnight I want to be balls deep in a sexy female seeing in the new year. I do not want to be d*unk on the dance floor, I could do that in a normal club or bar. Too many people treat swingers clubs like normal venues, if you're not there to have sexy fun then why bother going? I'm not naming any names, but one swingers club is notorious for being more like a nightclub than a swingers club which keeps me from going there. There is nothing wrong with the social side of clubs but if you only want to get dressed up, chat, drink and dance then you really need to ask yourself, why are you in a swingers club?" You're entitled to your opinion ... but we don't agree with it. Sounds like you have a mighty chip of your shoulder young man ! | |||
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"clubs have been taken over by the soft swinger brigade. As the OP points out pubs and "normal" nightclubs already exist for getting dressed up, dancing and getting pissed. No what he means is he wants to go somewhere shag someone without putting any input or effort, just presuming he has paid his entrance fee so can shag anyone and everyone . Even in. A swingers club you must put in some effort surely even if you say please after " giz a shag babes" " no "he" doesn't mean that at all. And exactly what is "putting the effort in", who's written the guide for that then | |||
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"I have been attending a club for months and slowly but surely the number of people playing has gone down, to the point that last time I went only one couple played all night. Its no coincidence that the number of attendees has gone down too. Even in another well known swingers club I hear people saying that things aren't the same. They say it can be a busy night but once everyone has had a drink and a dance the club just empties. The next time you're in a swingers club and you're complaining that no one is swinging then you only have yourself to blame. If you are in a swingers club and no one is playing and you're not complaining, well maybe you aren't a swinger to begin with. My main point was this. If you go to a swingers club and treat it ONLY as a social event with no intention of playing, then you are harming the scene." were with you | |||
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"Just reading about some of the comments from people about NYE. They say stuff about dressing up, dancing, drinking, partying, chatting but nothing about fucking. It seems to me that a lot of people are missing the point about swingers clubs. At midnight I want to be balls deep in a sexy female seeing in the new year. I do not want to be d*unk on the dance floor, I could do that in a normal club or bar. Too many people treat swingers clubs like normal venues, if you're not there to have sexy fun then why bother going? I'm not naming any names, but one swingers club is notorious for being more like a nightclub than a swingers club which keeps me from going there. There is nothing wrong with the social side of clubs but if you only want to get dressed up, chat, drink and dance then you really need to ask yourself, why are you in a swingers club?" But like any other club, you don't know who is going to be there on the night. We never go with any intentions other than to have a good time. Usually this involves sexy fun... but sometimes there is nobody there who we are interested in. So should we go home to bed at midnight? No, we have a few drinks and chat to people and always end up having a good night. | |||
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"I have been attending a club for months and slowly but surely the number of people playing has gone down, to the point that last time I went only one couple played all night. Its no coincidence that the number of attendees has gone down too. Even in another well known swingers club I hear people saying that things aren't the same. They say it can be a busy night but once everyone has had a drink and a dance the club just empties. The next time you're in a swingers club and you're complaining that no one is swinging then you only have yourself to blame. If you are in a swingers club and no one is playing and you're not complaining, well maybe you aren't a swinger to begin with. My main point was this. If you go to a swingers club and treat it ONLY as a social event with no intention of playing, then you are harming the scene." Who should people complain to? The club owner? "I am complaining because no-one wants to shag me...." I do understand where you're coming from... but still. People can do whatever they like. If you think they should HAVE to play.... that's insinuating people are like free prostitutes. | |||
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"I have been attending a club for months and slowly but surely the number of people playing has gone down, to the point that last time I went only one couple played all night. Its no coincidence that the number of attendees has gone down too. Even in another well known swingers club I hear people saying that things aren't the same. They say it can be a busy night but once everyone has had a drink and a dance the club just empties. The next time you're in a swingers club and you're complaining that no one is swinging then you only have yourself to blame. If you are in a swingers club and no one is playing and you're not complaining, well maybe you aren't a swinger to begin with. My main point was this. If you go to a swingers club and treat it ONLY as a social event with no intention of playing, then you are harming the scene." I've found that asking usually helps to get the action started. I do agree that there are less and less people attending clubs at the mo, but I think that's possibly because everyone is skint. | |||
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"people talking as if they speak for the "scene" and club owners are pretty funny on this thread. We have travelled the land and been lucky enough to be to clubs up and down the country and got to know owners all over the place. Not a single one has ever suggested to me that "play" should be mandatory, or is what they expect in any way. They are there to provide a relaxed sexy atmosphere, the rest is all a bonus and no one going to a club should ever feel as if "playing" is mandatory we often go to clubs and play with no one, we talk, dance, have a drink, meet new people and have a fantastic night without play, we play when we meet people we want to play with and thats it. Once again, there is NO expectation on play NO means NO, go relax enjoy the atmosphere and have fun, the OP speaks for himself and a few other idiots who think they can impose their own ideals of what swinging should be on others, same as any of the many similar posts we get here about preference or the like, its not some uniform accepted opinion of club goers. " just opened my own club _lackcherry...afraid u gotta play, with the owner first...and mostly through the whole nite | |||
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"Steelheels your current status says, 'not meeting', so I'm not sure how much of a swinger you are. Ok, let me say this again for the hard of reading! If your only intention when going to a swingers club, note I say swingers club, not nightclub or disco, is to dance and get d*unk, then you are missing the point! Its not rocket surgery! I enjoy the social scene too, I have friends that I look forward to meeting, but I want to know that I'm in a club where other people are open to playing too, not a place that emptier at 12 because they're d*unk and the dj's stopped playing!" You can make whatever assumptions you like about this profile. I do agree with your point there that it would be cool if people were 'open to playing'. That's a different tone to your OP. | |||
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"I wouldn't know what's happening at around midnight. Im usually locked in a private playroom fucking my new friends . It won't be someone with a sense of entitlement though " We won't be having a single man In our bed that has a sense of entitlement on New Years either . | |||
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"Steelheels your current status says, 'not meeting', so I'm not sure how much of a swinger you are. Ok, let me say this again for the hard of reading! If your only intention when going to a swingers club, note I say swingers club, not nightclub or disco, is to dance and get d*unk, then you are missing the point! Its not rocket surgery! I enjoy the social scene too, I have friends that I look forward to meeting, but I want to know that I'm in a club where other people are open to playing too, not a place that emptier at 12 because they're d*unk and the dj's stopped playing!" not meeting...so that makes one a lesser swinger, even though they might still be meeting(with established friends no doubt).I understand what u are saying about the clubs, but I would rather go to a club and meet like minded people, gain the opportunity to perhaps meet them in the future(and have sex)...I think that IS the point U are missing. Perhaps you should start arranging nites to clubs where there may be a greedy girl nite or something similar...as it stands you are there for the one basic reason and think thats the priority for the nite. | |||
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"I have been attending a club for months and slowly but surely the number of people playing has gone down, to the point that last time I went only one couple played all night. Its no coincidence that the number of attendees has gone down too. Even in another well known swingers club I hear people saying that things aren't the same. They say it can be a busy night but once everyone has had a drink and a dance the club just empties. The next time you're in a swingers club and you're complaining that no one is swinging then you only have yourself to blame. If you are in a swingers club and no one is playing and you're not complaining, well maybe you aren't a swinger to begin with. My main point was this. If you go to a swingers club and treat it ONLY as a social event with no intention of playing, then you are harming the scene." others suggest single people arent swingers, so what position are you in to state what a swinger can and can not be? | |||
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"I have been attending a club for months and slowly but surely the number of people playing has gone down, to the point that last time I went only one couple played all night. Its no coincidence that the number of attendees has gone down too. Even in another well known swingers club I hear people saying that things aren't the same. They say it can be a busy night but once everyone has had a drink and a dance the club just empties. The next time you're in a swingers club and you're complaining that no one is swinging then you only have yourself to blame. If you are in a swingers club and no one is playing and you're not complaining, well maybe you aren't a swinger to begin with. My main point was this. If you go to a swingers club and treat it ONLY as a social event with no intention of playing, then you are harming the scene. others suggest single people arent swingers, so what position are you in to state what a swinger can and can not be?" schrodengers swinger | |||
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"oh gawd! A who is a proper swinger and who isn't thread. Don't get hung up on definitions and who should be doing what, do exactly as you please and let everyone else do the same. By the way what the ecky peck is rocket surgery? " thanks actually my point. OP is telling people who is and isnt a swinger based on their activities, yet its widely recognised that, by the original meaning of swingers, he wouldnt be one anyway. | |||
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"No where did I say that anyone that goes to a swingers club has to play. " OK for the hard of thinking what you actually said was: "Too many people treat swingers clubs like normal venues, if you're not there to have sexy fun then why bother going?" So you didn't say they had to play, but why bother going if they don't. I'm sure there's a difference. Just not an obvious one. | |||
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"Ok let me break it down for everyone even more. Would you rather go to a swingers club that had a reputation for emptying around 12 after everyone had danced and had a drink. Or would you rather go to a swingers club where there was a good social scene and people played, giving you the option of playing if you so desired? Its ok everyone slagging me off on here, but in the real world would you go to a swingers club where the opportunity to play didn't exist. As for the couple that says they have been put off going to a swingers club because of a few comments posted on a forum! Grow up and stop being so stupid!" says the boy that blocked us for disagreeing about his posts on a forum lol. we would rather go to a club where everyone is nice and polite and has great craic, whether they play or not, its not the main concern because we would play with each other anyway. i actually appreciate where you are coming from because you have to rely on others for your sexual gratification, rather than just turning to your partner in crime, as it were. but seeings as we ave that option, your arguments and opinions of the club emptying at midnight only means we get the jacuzzi all to ourselves without worrying about unwanted attention. win win | |||
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"Ok let me break it down for everyone even more. Would you rather go to a swingers club that had a reputation for emptying around 12 after everyone had danced and had a drink. Or would you rather go to a swingers club where there was a good social scene and people played, giving you the option of playing if you so desired? Its ok everyone slagging me off on here, but in the real world would you go to a swingers club where the opportunity to play didn't exist. As for the couple that says they have been put off going to a swingers club because of a few comments posted on a forum! Grow up and stop being so stupid!" Honestly. Id rather some went home. Especially the over entitled idiots. See most clubs have limited private play areas. All those that go home; either to the wife, or with their wives free up private room space & jacuzzi space. A girl friend i once had wouldn't even dream of going into a play room with someone before pub kicking out time then stand & watch all the 'single men' rush out just after 11 I will only play if someone/some people take my fancy. It doesn't have to be loads & loads of choice. Sometimes the best nights are the quiet ones. And if no one takes my interest then i socialise & go home happy. | |||
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"Rocket surgery is a mix of rocket science and brain surgery Steelheels you say don't judge you well thats what everyone has done to me without knowing the first thing about me. I wonder how many people have even taken the time to read my veris?" OP read mine...but still dont agree with ... | |||
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"clubs have been taken over by the soft swinger brigade. As the OP points out pubs and "normal" nightclubs already exist for getting dressed up, dancing and getting pissed. " | |||
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" My main point was this. If you go to a swingers club and treat it ONLY as a social event with no intention of playing, then you are harming the scene." So on my first visit to a club I will just be seeing what it is like and unlikely to play, that means I'm harming the scene? Lets hope we don't attend the same one. | |||
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"Rocket surgery is a mix of rocket science and brain surgery Steelheels you say don't judge you well thats what everyone has done to me without knowing the first thing about me. I wonder how many people have even taken the time to read my veris?" I didn't say don't judge me at all. I said make any assumptions you like about me/ this profile. Fine by me. | |||
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" I say again, would you attend a swingers club if no one ever played?" I think if you'd had this as the OP you would have got a much better response. It sounds like the 'entitlement' thing wasn't what you meant. But it came across that way. | |||
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"You're so right!! People should be shagging the moment they walk through the door. There should be a queue that guys can get in and as soon as a woman finishes shagging one guy, the next guys can shag her. It's disgusting that people chat and make friends. Talking in swinging clubs should be illegal." PMSL | |||
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"Ok Serendipity let me ask you why you are going to a swingers club as opposed to going to a normal club/bar?" Because I want to see what it is like to see if it somewhere I would like to return to and play IF there is someone there I would like to play with. I may go the first time and meet someone but I will NEVER guarantee playing whether I go to a swingers club or meet a man off here nor will I be pressured into it by the likes of you. I could let the attitude of you put me off but luckily it is something I have discussed with people in general and it appears you're in the minority. | |||
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"Steelheels you are absolutely right. Maybe my OP was a bit blase. I didn't mean that you can't go to a swingers club and be social or that just because you go to one that you have to have sex. I meant that it has been mine, and others opinion, that the never going to play no matter what, just here to dance and get pissed crowd are spoiling the scene." Fair point. | |||
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"Without turning this into a money topic, I notice that you are a single female Sinlingerie1. I wonder if you would still be so keen to go to a swingers club every week if you had to pay £35 to £45 everytime? And before you all jump down my throat with hate filled abuse, no just because you've paid does NOT, for the hard of reading, does NOT in anyway entitle you to sex." That's exactly why I think it's totally wrong to charge guys more. They'd be a lot more relaxed (maybe) if they hadn't paid £35 to stand around drinking when they could do that in a pub for free. | |||
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"If people make such a big deal about the socialising/having a dance etc why do you pick a swingers club instead of a normal night club?" And in my opinion a nightclub plays better music | |||
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"Without turning this into a money topic, I notice that you are a single female Sinlingerie1. I wonder if you would still be so keen to go to a swingers club every week if you had to pay £35 to £45 everytime? And before you all jump down my throat with hate filled abuse, no just because you've paid does NOT, for the hard of reading, does NOT in anyway entitle you to sex." I agree with the inherent sexism in charging men more than anyone else, HOWEVER surely if you think your entrance fee, whatever it may be ENTITLES you to sex with anyone, then perhaps the local brothel/massage parlour may be a more suitable "contract" | |||
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"I wonder what the reaction would have been if a single fem had written the op?" I would have said the same thing, while making sure she dropped her knickers fingered her fanny then sucked my cock | |||
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"Without turning this into a money topic, I notice that you are a single female Sinlingerie1. I wonder if you would still be so keen to go to a swingers club every week if you had to pay £35 to £45 everytime? And before you all jump down my throat with hate filled abuse, no just because you've paid does NOT, for the hard of reading, does NOT in anyway entitle you to sex." I would, but perhaps not as frequently according to my finances, but in saying that right now a club trip still costs me a fair bit by the time I've bought my outfit, lingerie, travel, accom, etc, etc. The entry is due to demographic demand not gender. If the numbers of single males and single females were reversed, I'm sure the fees would be also. | |||
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"Without turning this into a money topic, I notice that you are a single female Sinlingerie1. I wonder if you would still be so keen to go to a swingers club every week if you had to pay £35 to £45 everytime? And before you all jump down my throat with hate filled abuse, no just because you've paid does NOT, for the hard of reading, does NOT in anyway entitle you to sex. I would, but perhaps not as frequently according to my finances, but in saying that right now a club trip still costs me a fair bit by the time I've bought my outfit, lingerie, travel, accom, etc, etc. The entry is due to demographic demand not gender. If the numbers of single males and single females were reversed, I'm sure the fees would be also. " Meant the entry fee # | |||
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"I wonder what the reaction would have been if a single fem had written the op?" Very good point! I wonder if she'd have received the abuse and insults both in this forum and in private messages, that I have? | |||
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"Just reading about some of the comments from people about NYE. They say stuff about dressing up, dancing, drinking, partying, chatting but nothing about fucking. It seems to me that a lot of people are missing the point about swingers clubs. At midnight I want to be balls deep in a sexy female seeing in the new year. I do not want to be d*unk on the dance floor, I could do that in a normal club or bar. Too many people treat swingers clubs like normal venues, if you're not there to have sexy fun then why bother going? I'm not naming any names, but one swingers club is notorious for being more like a nightclub than a swingers club which keeps me from going there. There is nothing wrong with the social side of clubs but if you only want to get dressed up, chat, drink and dance then you really need to ask yourself, why are you in a swingers club?" Sorry I forgot to mention when I went on a thread earlier talking abt going to eureka masked ball,talking abt my mask that I'm not just going for the social side,I'm going there with my fb and I will be playing hard with him,inbetween being social and having a drink and dance lol The difference is I'm going as a couple not as a singlewhich is what I normally do,when I go to a club I go with the intention to play and always do as I arrange to meet fb's or new meets there if we click we playx I don't know why the club you go to is more into social,as where I go there are queues to get in rooms at times,people play or social it up to them,as long as people have a good time it dosent matter | |||
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"I wonder what the reaction would have been if a single fem had written the op? Very good point! I wonder if she'd have received the abuse and insults both in this forum and in private messages, that I have?" Abuse and insults ? Ooo that's not good. Come on people raise your standards. | |||
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"Not at all. My reason for going to a swingers club is to get dressed up. Have a drink. Dance, meet up with some like minded friends and if I get to play with someone as well that's a bonus. If I just wanted a shag I could ring an fb and have them come round my house. In a normal nightclub if I met someone I liked I couldn't fuck em in a side room without getting into trouble. It's the whole package for me at a club I don't go in there with 'I must get laid' blinkers on. " I'm with hottie on this one | |||
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"Not at all. My reason for going to a swingers club is to get dressed up. Have a drink. Dance, meet up with some like minded friends and if I get to play with someone as well that's a bonus. If I just wanted a shag I could ring an fb and have them come round my house. In a normal nightclub if I met someone I liked I couldn't fuck em in a side room without getting into trouble. It's the whole package for me at a club I don't go in there with 'I must get laid' blinkers on. " | |||
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"Without turning this into a money topic, I notice that you are a single female Sinlingerie1. I wonder if you would still be so keen to go to a swingers club every week if you had to pay ?35 to ?45 everytime? And before you all jump down my throat with hate filled abuse, no just because you've paid does NOT, for the hard of reading, does NOT in anyway entitle you to sex." I'm a single mum so couldn't afford to, so I have to go as a couple abt once or twice a month where I would pay my half like I am nye I pay next to nothing at moment going as a single,there simply wouldn't be many single woman if had to pay more,clubs encourage single woman as men always outway the woman,I for one couldn't afford it,where would the clubs be without the woman | |||
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"No matter what anyone says about being willing to pay whether they had a play or not, at the end of the day you go to a swingers club because a) you enjoy watching the naughty fun, or b) there is the possibility that you may have some naughty fun. Otherwise a normal club/bar is far cheaper. Lets be honest, its the sex factor that draws us in." No! Maybe as a single! As a couple not at all. Perhaps this is where your perspective is tunneled. | |||
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"I wonder what the reaction would have been if a single fem had written the op? Very good point! I wonder if she'd have received the abuse and insults both in this forum and in private messages, that I have?" No abuse in this thread, as for personal messages they shouldn't be discussed in an open forum. You posted your view, don't be surprised if you then hear different opinions and not being your own doesn't make it abuse or a bad thing. | |||
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"No I am sorry to say OP I think you are missing the point. We go to clubs to have sex with each other, what club or pub can we do that in without getting arrested? If we want to invite single men to play with us we will, but it isnt a dead cert & not the norm. If people watch us then fine. I can't dance in a normal club in saucy lingerie - unless I want to get mobbed. We go for the completely different atmosphere and being able to socialise and talk to like minded people - can't exactly approach a female/male/couple in a vanilla place and say so how much spunk have you taken in one go?! The two are not comparable and never will be, it is not cut and dried and I will never go to a club (I have been socially only as on my own) and be expected to perform like a seal. I do not think "non players" are ruining it at all, are we swingers - of course but sex should not be mechanical and socialising is all apart of that. Also anyone d*unk can ruin at atmosphere be it vanilla or swingers place so that does not hold up in your arguement. Couldn't have said it any better!!! You get all sorts at clubs, all shapes and sizes, ages etc. Anyone who has the confidence to get through the door at a club, gets the thumbs up! The feeling of eroticism is what gets them in, and with it the many facets of the 'lifestyle'. From the well hung twenty something who thinks he's gods gift strutting around, to the 65 year old 'larger' lady sitting with her husband in the corner.... They should all be respected for being there, whatever the intention is. " | |||
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"No I am sorry to say OP I think you are missing the point. We go to clubs to have sex with each other, what club or pub can we do that in without getting arrested? If we want to invite single men to play with us we will, but it isnt a dead cert & not the norm. If people watch us then fine. I can't dance in a normal club in saucy lingerie - unless I want to get mobbed. We go for the completely different atmosphere and being able to socialise and talk to like minded people - can't exactly approach a female/male/couple in a vanilla place and say so how much spunk have you taken in one go?! The two are not comparable and never will be, it is not cut and dried and I will never go to a club (I have been socially only as on my own) and be expected to perform like a seal. I do not think "non players" are ruining it at all, are we swingers - of course but sex should not be mechanical and socialising is all apart of that. Also anyone d*unk can ruin at atmosphere be it vanilla or swingers place so that does not hold up in your arguement. Couldn't have said it any better!!! You get all sorts at clubs, all shapes and sizes, ages etc. Anyone who has the confidence to get through the door at a club, gets the thumbs up! The feeling of eroticism is what gets them in, and with it the many facets of the 'lifestyle'. From the well hung twenty something who thinks he's gods gift strutting around, to the 65 year old 'larger' lady sitting with her husband in the corner.... They should all be respected for being there, whatever the intention is. " Indeed | |||
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"Ok people if you are going to make a post please read the entire thread. For the last time, hopefully, christ this is hard work! If you go to a swingers club for any kind of naughty fun, even if you go and don't end up playing but still go with an open mind open to the possibility if the situation arises that you may play...that is good, you've grasped the concept of a swingers club. If you go to a swingers club with no intention of having any kind of naughty fun, not even with your own hand, other half, fb, or a selection of soft fruit, but are there just to dance, get d*unk and leave just after midnight...that is bad, try a normal club/bar because you haven't quite grasped the concept of a swingers club. I'm sure the management like the entrance fee and bar takings in the till, but the rest of us just look at you and wonder what the fuck are doing in there." So I shouldn't go to a club because I don't play? People have the right to use a club however they see fit, they are no rules to say you have to play | |||
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"Ok people if you are going to make a post please read the entire thread. For the last time, hopefully, christ this is hard work! If you go to a swingers club for any kind of naughty fun, even if you go and don't end up playing but still go with an open mind open to the possibility if the situation arises that you may play...that is good, you've grasped the concept of a swingers club. If you go to a swingers club with no intention of having any kind of naughty fun, not even with your own hand, other half, fb, or a selection of soft fruit, but are there just to dance, get d*unk and leave just after midnight...that is bad, try a normal club/bar because you haven't quite grasped the concept of a swingers club. I'm sure the management like the entrance fee and bar takings in the till, but the rest of us just look at you and wonder what the fuck are doing in there." I read the entire thread and my opinion is still the same, you can't knock people for their opinions regardless or indeed their actions when they choose to attend a swinging club and it doesn't fit what your expectations are. | |||
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"Ok this thread can be brought to a close very simply. From now on if you post in the thread just say yes or no to the following question. Would you be willing to pay between £30 to £40 pounds every weekend to go to a club where little or no naughty fun takes place meaning that you never got to play, but you have a good social time?" Oh dear Erm you can't "control" a thread and tell people what they can or not post and sorry only mods close threads | |||
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"Ok this thread can be brought to a close very simply. From now on if you post in the thread just say yes or no to the following question. Would you be willing to pay between £30 to £40 pounds every weekend to go to a club where little or no naughty fun takes place meaning that you never got to play, but you have a good social time?" Just because men pay that does not guarantee a play...maybe you should rethink swingers clubs | |||
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"Ok Maverick let me turn it around again. Your regular swinging club slowly attracts more and more of the social only types. Its a great atmosphere, people, drink and dance and chat but no one plays. New people that come to the club just sit there or have a look around the club but no one is playing so they leave early and don't return. Slowly word gets around that no one ever plays in there and numbers go down as people go else where to lead their swinging lifestyle. Suddenly you are sat in your favourite club, only now its half empty and the people in there will be gone by half twelve after they've gotten too d*unk. But at least you will have the satisfaction in knowing that you stood up for the rights of everyone. Now lets have a look on fab to see where all the fun is taking place because you won't be coming here again, you tell yourself as you head for the exit." Not sure if Maverick is me? But it wouldn't bother me as at no stage or time have I ever attended a swinging club expecting action or to see action. | |||
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"Well when my village pub installs a jacuzzi, sauna & steam room then I'll ditch swinging clubs & go there. Im guilty of slipping over to a club midweek with the sole intention of a natter & giggle in the jacuzzi. " But you've gone there to have fun. Fun doesn't have to mean just sex. You're not just going with the intention of getting d*unk and leaving early. | |||
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" So I shouldn't go to a club because I don't play? People have the right to use a club however they see fit, they are no rules to say you have to play" You're quite right, but when your favourite club is empty on a Saturday night because its got a reputation for no one ever playing in it, you may think its not such a good thing. | |||
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"So Serendipity you are going to a swingers club because people play there. My point exactly. Would you still be going if people didn't play there, by your own expectations from a swingers club the answer is no. Whether you play or not once you are inside the swingers club is entirely up to you but you are going open minded to playing and because people play there, which is my point entirely. Can you explain what part of my attitude you don't like? " You make it sound like you are of the opinion that if a person/couples go to a swingers club they HAVE to play regardless of if they fancy others there especially when single men pay so much to get in. | |||
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"Not at all. My reason for going to a swingers club is to get dressed up. Have a drink. Dance, meet up with some like minded friends and if I get to play with someone as well that's a bonus. If I just wanted a shag I could ring an fb and have them come round my house. In a normal nightclub if I met someone I liked I couldn't fuck em in a side room without getting into trouble. It's the whole package for me at a club I don't go in there with 'I must get laid' blinkers on. " Well said | |||
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"Ok Maverick let me turn it around again. Your regular swinging club slowly attracts more and more of the social only types. Its a great atmosphere, people, drink and dance and chat but no one plays. New people that come to the club just sit there or have a look around the club but no one is playing so they leave early and don't return. Slowly word gets around that no one ever plays in there and numbers go down as people go else where to lead their swinging lifestyle. Suddenly you are sat in your favourite club, only now its half empty and the people in there will be gone by half twelve after they've gotten too d*unk. But at least you will have the satisfaction in knowing that you stood up for the rights of everyone. Now lets have a look on fab to see where all the fun is taking place because you won't be coming here again, you tell yourself as you head for the exit." Happy to answer that when you've answered my question? Swingers actually 'swinging' come in all shapes and sizes.... You're happy to have sex with anyone, as they are 'proper' swingers?? (Notice the deliberate over use of 'swing') | |||
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" Just because men pay that does not guarantee a play...maybe you should rethink swingers clubs" For the love of god! Please read the entire thread Sexygirl, especially the bit where I say not once but twice, that pay does not entitle play!! Maybe you should rethink posting in a thread!! | |||
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" So I shouldn't go to a club because I don't play? People have the right to use a club however they see fit, they are no rules to say you have to play You're quite right, but when your favourite club is empty on a Saturday night because its got a reputation for no one ever playing in it, you may think its not such a good thing." But what do you bring to the table Mike ? You "can't accommodate" and you go to a club as a single male ? Where is it written that husbands/boyfriends are obliged to let you bonk their other halves in a club and that every single girl who goes there is equally obliged to bonk you, because they pay less than you and are on the premises ? Because that's how it comes across ! Has it occurred to you that lots of couples/singles/whatever may be fairly new and are, understandably, exploring their boundaries ? | |||
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" Happy to answer that when you've answered my question? Swingers actually 'swinging' come in all shapes and sizes.... You're happy to have sex with anyone, as they are 'proper' swingers?? (Notice the deliberate over use of 'swing') " Happy to answer your question. Anyone that knows me knows that my status usually reads, 'quality not quantity'. If I went to a club and didn't fancy playing with anyone, then I wouldn't, and indeed there have been times when I have left without playing, my choice, nothing wrong with that. But had I wanted to have played then I would have and thats because I was open to the posibility and not just there to drink, dance and leave early. | |||
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" So I shouldn't go to a club because I don't play? People have the right to use a club however they see fit, they are no rules to say you have to play You're quite right, but when your favourite club is empty on a Saturday night because its got a reputation for no one ever playing in it, you may think its not such a good thing." My local is never empty, it's always packed on a Saturday and Thursday | |||
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" You make it sound like you are of the opinion that if a person/couples go to a swingers club they HAVE to play regardless of if they fancy others there especially when single men pay so much to get in." On both points no. No one has the right to pressure you in anyway to do anything you don't want to. I am a firm believer in that and my veris will back that up. Also, a single guy could pay a thousand pounds to get in a club but it still wouldn't entitle them to anything. The opinion that I expressed, rather badly in my OP, was that I have witnessed first hand how the drink and dance only crowd can kill off a swingers club attendance numbers. | |||
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"Just reading about some of the comments from people about NYE. They say stuff about dressing up, dancing, drinking, partying, chatting but nothing about fucking. It seems to me that a lot of people are missing the point about swingers clubs. At midnight I want to be balls deep in a sexy female seeing in the new year. I do not want to be d*unk on the dance floor, I could do that in a normal club or bar. Too many people treat swingers clubs like normal venues, if you're not there to have sexy fun then why bother going? I'm not naming any names, but one swingers club is notorious for being more like a nightclub than a swingers club which keeps me from going there. There is nothing wrong with the social side of clubs but if you only want to get dressed up, chat, drink and dance then you really need to ask yourself, why are you in a swingers club?" sounds to me that you expect to be "balls deep" every time you go and that your expectations are of a completely selfish nature. some clubs are more night club themed, usually the dry clubs but is that any reason why other/all clubs shouldn't offer a more party time theme I think not. You completely fail to see the social side of these venues and would probably be better off in a brothel. | |||
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" So I shouldn't go to a club because I don't play? People have the right to use a club however they see fit, they are no rules to say you have to play You're quite right, but when your favourite club is empty on a Saturday night because its got a reputation for no one ever playing in it, you may think its not such a good thing. But what do you bring to the table Mike ? You "can't accommodate" and you go to a club as a single male ? Where is it written that husbands/boyfriends are obliged to let you bonk their other halves in a club and that every single girl who goes there is equally obliged to bonk you, because they pay less than you and are on the premises ? Because that's how it comes across ! Has it occurred to you that lots of couples/singles/whatever may be fairly new and are, understandably, exploring their boundaries ?" Ok two things, I go to a club on Saturday night with a female friend. Secondly, those nervous new single females and couples go to a club to explore their sexual boundaries not their drinking and dancing boundaries. They go with an open mind to meeting others and maybe playing. Even if they don't play, and this is the bit a lot of people in this thread are missing, they went open to the possibility of playing. I have been going to a club where new couples don't return because nothing happens in there, seen it weekend after weekend first hand. | |||
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"Just reading about some of the comments from people about NYE. They say stuff about dressing up, dancing, drinking, partying, chatting but nothing about fucking. It seems to me that a lot of people are missing the point about swingers clubs. At midnight I want to be balls deep in a sexy female seeing in the new year. I do not want to be d*unk on the dance floor, I could do that in a normal club or bar. Too many people treat swingers clubs like normal venues, if you're not there to have sexy fun then why bother going? I'm not naming any names, but one swingers club is notorious for being more like a nightclub than a swingers club which keeps me from going there. There is nothing wrong with the social side of clubs but if you only want to get dressed up, chat, drink and dance then you really need to ask yourself, why are you in a swingers club? sounds to me that you expect to be "balls deep" every time you go and that your expectations are of a completely selfish nature. some clubs are more night club themed, usually the dry clubs but is that any reason why other/all clubs shouldn't offer a more party time theme I think not. You completely fail to see the social side of these venues and would probably be better off in a brothel. " Someone else that hasn't bothered to read the entire thread!! Very tiresome indeed. | |||
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" So I shouldn't go to a club because I don't play? People have the right to use a club however they see fit, they are no rules to say you have to play You're quite right, but when your favourite club is empty on a Saturday night because its got a reputation for no one ever playing in it, you may think its not such a good thing. But what do you bring to the table Mike ? You "can't accommodate" and you go to a club as a single male ? Where is it written that husbands/boyfriends are obliged to let you bonk their other halves in a club and that every single girl who goes there is equally obliged to bonk you, because they pay less than you and are on the premises ? Because that's how it comes across ! Has it occurred to you that lots of couples/singles/whatever may be fairly new and are, understandably, exploring their boundaries ? Ok two things, I go to a club on Saturday night with a female friend. Secondly, those nervous new single females and couples go to a club to explore their sexual boundaries not their drinking and dancing boundaries. They go with an open mind to meeting others and maybe playing. Even if they don't play, and this is the bit a lot of people in this thread are missing, they went open to the possibility of playing. I have been going to a club where new couples don't return because nothing happens in there, seen it weekend after weekend first hand." Ah now you might have something there. You're talking couples only nights & you're attending as a faux couple. Some nights are just different to others. I won't attend a couples only night period. A mixed play night or a chill night is a whole different vibe | |||
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"We go to swinger's clubs to hang out and have fun. Yes we do hope we meet someone there that we can have fun with but if we don't play with anyone that's fine too. If we were wandering around and all the play rooms were empty the whole night and every other person there was just sat in the bar area chatting, yes I think we would be disappointed. We like to watch and be watched. Share the experience. In empty rooms it just wouldn't be the same. Yes, of course everyone is allowed to do what they want. But if EVERY person there had no intention whatsoever of playing, it just wouldn't be the same atmosphere. " Finally someone is looking past the fact that a single bloke posted this and got to the point that with no-one at all playing its not exactly what your paying entry for | |||
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" Ah now you might have something there. You're talking couples only nights & you're attending as a faux couple. Some nights are just different to others. I won't attend a couples only night period. A mixed play night or a chill night is a whole different vibe " Yes maybe I should have mentioned that this is in connection with a couples only night and not a night when single guys are let in. I have no problem on single guy nights | |||
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"We go to swinger's clubs to hang out and have fun. Yes we do hope we meet someone there that we can have fun with but if we don't play with anyone that's fine too. If we were wandering around and all the play rooms were empty the whole night and every other person there was just sat in the bar area chatting, yes I think we would be disappointed. We like to watch and be watched. Share the experience. In empty rooms it just wouldn't be the same. Yes, of course everyone is allowed to do what they want. But if EVERY person there had no intention whatsoever of playing, it just wouldn't be the same atmosphere. " Thank you! Sums up what I mean entirely. Maybe if my OP had been worded along these lines then this thread would have ended 140 posts ago. Whatever and with whoever and where ever you spend tomorrow night, I wish you all a Happy New Year and may 2014 be a good one for you x | |||
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"I think what we have here are different mindsets.... and the pressure being put on one set of mindsets, mike, to make others conform to his way of thinking.... I originally went to clubs for the sex, who didn't.... but what kept me going back to clubs was very much the social side to where the sex became incidental if I play... cool If I don't... I am going to have a damn good time regardless... I tend to think there are probably a lot of men with the same mindset as mike... "Heck I have paid my money and I was some action goddammit!!!!".... and I think it is that perception that puts off a lot of people from going to clubs....... actually... I am proud that the local club I go to got named "co most friendly" club, but it means they are more all encompassing.. (you'd hate a saturday party night mike with over 100 people there doing this "socialising" malarkey.....) also as well, more and more people are coming thru the doors because it isn't the intimidating atmosphere some clubs can be with people with attitudes like yours...... there are clubs that cater for your attitude... just as there are clubs that cater for mine..... and the fact there is a lot of choice says a lot for the scene in general...... " With you on this Fabio! The club Fox and I are members of (and heaven forbid have organised a 'social' at next year!) sounds a lot like the kind of club the OP is complaining about - and may even be the one he's referring to - as there are nights we have seen where there is more play occurring than others. That said - like any preference on Fab - surely it's the right of the club goer to act in whatever way they feel, so long as they don't break rules and impact on the activities of others? If people not playing are a problem then go to another club - simple solution. We often end up playing with nobody else but eachother, often in private rooms, sometimes in public - but that's our choice! We've also attended parties where we've not played until returning to the hotel or home - again, our choice. We have however chatted, been social and made friends, enjoyed a dip in the tub (with no play), relaxed in the chill out zone watching porn (which we could have easily done at home) and enjoyed drinks at the bar - does this make us any less swingers than others, just because we choose not to get jiggy? Personally I see clubs with a more social scene as being far more welcoming to newbies and first timers than an environment where they feel 'pressured' to play and conform to someone else's notion that without sex happening left right and centre that they're 'ruining the scene'!! | |||
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"No I am sorry to say OP I think you are missing the point. We go to clubs to have sex with each other, what club or pub can we do that in without getting arrested? If we want to invite single men to play with us we will, but it isnt a dead cert & not the norm. If people watch us then fine. I can't dance in a normal club in saucy lingerie - unless I want to get mobbed. We go for the completely different atmosphere and being able to socialise and talk to like minded people - can't exactly approach a female/male/couple in a vanilla place and say so how much spunk have you taken in one go?! The two are not comparable and never will be, it is not cut and dried and I will never go to a club (I have been socially only as on my own) and be expected to perform like a seal. I do not think "non players" are ruining it at all, are we swingers - of course but sex should not be mechanical and socialising is all apart of that. Also anyone d*unk can ruin at atmosphere be it vanilla or swingers place so that does not hold up in your arguement. " i was going to type this, not from the perspective of someone that goes, but as people that would like to go. we have been to non play private socials before now and its nice for V to be able to dress in next to nothing around others that are dressed similarly, without having to worry about d*unken idiots trying it on every 2 minutes, and thats the mentality and atmosphere we would be hoping for in a club. we are too long in the tooth now to want to go to nightclubs anyway, so sitting down the local boozer with her nipples showing, although erotic in itself, isnt what we are looking for. | |||
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"I'm starting to get the impression that the club socialisers look down their noses at people who actually want to go to these clubs for the purpose of having sex!!" actually seems quite the opposite from what i have read, bexx | |||
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"I'm starting to get the impression that the club socialisers look down their noses at people who actually want to go to these clubs for the purpose of having sex!!" I've not had any sex since July | |||
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"I'm starting to get the impression that the club socialisers look down their noses at people who actually want to go to these clubs for the purpose of having sex!! I've not had any sex since July " oo, hope you get sorted soon (not with sex but with the medical side if things) | |||
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"We have never visited a club, mainly due to a lack of options in our area and it's difficult for us to travel. We are keen to make this happen though. Obviously the playing aspect is a big draw for us as arranging private meets can be a real challenge, however, it's the idea that certain people may look at us in a negative way if we choose to politely decline offers that stops us from taking the plunge. From my perspective an ideal scenario would be a wider choice of clubs to visit where a great night was able to be had, much like a 'normal' club but playing would be a possibility if a situation presented itself. We go out to regular places and often think it would be great if there was somewhere to go to get it on with each other, or new acquaintances when we felt like it without being arrested. I may be in a minority but that is what clubs should be to me, a place to go out where the priority is to have a good time with good people and if that involves playing then a mindset and the facilities exist to do so. We aren't 'soft newbies' not are we experienced swingers and everyone will have different expectations for the scene which is fine. I just think as soon as an expectation for sex during a night exists then an underlying pressure runs through the evening when surely everyone should just be enjoying a sense of freedom, being able to do whatever they choose to have a great night and feeling lucky to have the opportunity. J" | |||
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"Not at all. My reason for going to a swingers club is to get dressed up. Have a drink. Dance, meet up with some like minded friends and if I get to play with someone as well that's a bonus. If I just wanted a shag I could ring an fb and have them come round my house. In a normal nightclub if I met someone I liked I couldn't fuck em in a side room without getting into trouble. It's the whole package for me at a club I don't go in there with 'I must get laid' blinkers on. " This is how I like it too x | |||
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". There is nothing wrong with the social side of clubs but if you only want to get dressed up, chat, drink and dance then you really need to ask yourself, why are you in a swingers club?" To chat, drink and dance with other swingers with a view to fucking them! Obviously | |||
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"We have never visited a club, mainly due to a lack of options in our area and it's difficult for us to travel. We are keen to make this happen though. Obviously the playing aspect is a big draw for us as arranging private meets can be a real challenge, however, it's the idea that certain people may look at us in a negative way if we choose to politely decline offers that stops us from taking the plunge. From my perspective an ideal scenario would be a wider choice of clubs to visit where a great night was able to be had, much like a 'normal' club but playing would be a possibility if a situation presented itself. We go out to regular places and often think it would be great if there was somewhere to go to get it on with each other, or new acquaintances when we felt like it without being arrested. I may be in a minority but that is what clubs should be to me, a place to go out where the priority is to have a good time with good people and if that involves playing then a mindset and the facilities exist to do so. We aren't 'soft newbies' not are we experienced swingers and everyone will have different expectations for the scene which is fine. I just think as soon as an expectation for sex during a night exists then an underlying pressure runs through the evening when surely everyone should just be enjoying a sense of freedom, being able to do whatever they choose to have a great night and feeling lucky to have the opportunity. J" Great reply and exactly how myself and partner like to play and make sure we attend clubs that offer this option. We go with no agenda, if we just socialise and get to know people then we are happy and if we meet a couple/single that we click with and have fun ....... bonus in our books!!! Each visit is different, we enjoy all aspects but also know which clubs suit our requirements best. I know tonight when we go to a swinging club we will be socialising, drinking, dancing and hopefully New Year will be seen in with a bang! Whatever you all do have a Happy New Year !! | |||
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"We have never visited a club, mainly due to a lack of options in our area and it's difficult for us to travel. We are keen to make this happen though. Obviously the playing aspect is a big draw for us as arranging private meets can be a real challenge, however, it's the idea that certain people may look at us in a negative way if we choose to politely decline offers that stops us from taking the plunge. From my perspective an ideal scenario would be a wider choice of clubs to visit where a great night was able to be had, much like a 'normal' club but playing would be a possibility if a situation presented itself. We go out to regular places and often think it would be great if there was somewhere to go to get it on with each other, or new acquaintances when we felt like it without being arrested. I may be in a minority but that is what clubs should be to me, a place to go out where the priority is to have a good time with good people and if that involves playing then a mindset and the facilities exist to do so. We aren't 'soft newbies' not are we experienced swingers and everyone will have different expectations for the scene which is fine. I just think as soon as an expectation for sex during a night exists then an underlying pressure runs through the evening when surely everyone should just be enjoying a sense of freedom, being able to do whatever they choose to have a great night and feeling lucky to have the opportunity. J Great reply and exactly how myself and partner like to play and make sure we attend clubs that offer this option. We go with no agenda, if we just socialise and get to know people then we are happy and if we meet a couple/single that we click with and have fun ....... bonus in our books!!! Each visit is different, we enjoy all aspects but also know which clubs suit our requirements best. I know tonight when we go to a swinging club we will be socialising, drinking, dancing and hopefully New Year will be seen in with a bang! Whatever you all do have a Happy New Year !! " Thanks, same to you, have a fantastic time and a great 2014! | |||
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