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"Isn't the term swinger for couples who swop and enjoy sex with other couples? surely a single on here is someone just looking for sex " I think the term has evolved and now can mean singles and couples. I don't see the difference in a 'swinger' looking for sex and a person looking for sex. It seems elitist. Do swingers somehow think they are 'better' because they call it swinging?! I find that very amusing. I am not a swinger. | |||
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"Isn't the term swinger for couples who swop and enjoy sex with other couples? surely a single on here is someone just looking for sex " Strictly speaking , yes you are correct . However the site is clearly being used for much more than swinging , which I don't think is a bad thing . | |||
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"This old chestnut I was a swinger pre and during my marriage and my last long term thing, just because I'm single right now it doesn't mean I now go to 'desperate for sex' clubs. Couples swapping is only a part of swinging, and swinging is first and foremost a mindset in my _iew. ps 2 singles posing as a couple? when both are married elsewhere would be welcomed by 'proper couples swapping' but they frown on singles..... " That's your _iew and that's perfectly fine as we have ours. No need for rolling eyes ( which I presume were intended for us). I never said singles are not swingers just that in our _iew they're not. Every one is allowed one you know. Well if two singles were "posing" as a couple how would the "proper couple " know? Maybe the two singles should be honest in the first place. Ps we don't frown on meeting singles, no problem with it at all. | |||
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"Our _iew is that singles are not swingers. If singles are playing with couples then they would be involved in the swinging scene but we don't think of them as swingers, just people looking for sexual experiences with swingers. Hope that makes sense. " I think this would be our _iew as well, it doesn't make us think any less of singles, apart from the time we met a single guy, played with him, then he admited he had a wife, but would never do this sort of thing with her. Yeah, he left shortly after that comment. | |||
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"Ah...as always the wise Mr Haive got there first...so deleted my post! " The day this site becomes a 'couples swap only' one I'll leave. The day I feel I cant respond to a thread with my honest opinion, I will leave. Until then I will respond as I do, honestly and giving my opinion | |||
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"Ah...as always the wise Mr Haive got there first...so deleted my post! " Sorry Bambi! I do have to roll my eyes (although not in this instance on the thread!) whenever this question rocks up on a site related to a lifestyle that is meant to be inclusive rather than exclusive, where singles of both sexes are welcome to join and are welcomed at clubs the length and breadth of the country as active members and participants - but are then branded as being in some way different to couples!! Often by those who apparently seek those very singles for their fun!! But hey - I could always just switch to using the couples profile I share and see how differently I'd be _iewed then! Mind you - as we're not married or cohabiting that probably excludes us as well!! Good job I'm not fussed about labels eh!! | |||
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"So do couples who also play separately too cease to be 'swingers' when playing without their other half? Or if a couple splits up but both continue meeting are they now simply 'seeking sex'? Not to mention how many pissed off swinging couples there's be if no single bi females existed!! " Just on the last bit there:- we've no problem with singles, we love meeting single men prob wouldn't bother on here if they weren't. Just it's our _iew that they are not swingers but they are a large part of the swinging scene and it wouldn't be the same with out them. | |||
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" Just it's our _iew that they are not swingers but they are a large part of the swinging scene and it wouldn't be the same with out them. " How can someone be "a large part of the swinging scene" and yet be denied the same 'label' as others in said scene? Surely that's contradictory? | |||
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"Ah...as always the wise Mr Haive got there first...so deleted my post! Sorry Bambi! I do have to roll my eyes (although not in this instance on the thread!) whenever this question rocks up on a site related to a lifestyle that is meant to be inclusive rather than exclusive, where singles of both sexes are welcome to join and are welcomed at clubs the length and breadth of the country as active members and participants - but are then branded as being in some way different to couples!! Often by those who apparently seek those very singles for their fun!! But hey - I could always just switch to using the couples profile I share and see how differently I'd be _iewed then! Mind you - as we're not married or cohabiting that probably excludes us as well!! Good job I'm not fussed about labels eh!! " How do you do this??? I need to be careful around you if you can read my mind | |||
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"Ah...as always the wise Mr Haive got there first...so deleted my post! The day this site becomes a 'couples swap only' one I'll leave. The day I feel I cant respond to a thread with my honest opinion, I will leave. Until then I will respond as I do, honestly and giving my opinion " And so you should, everyone is allowed their opinion | |||
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"Isn't the term swinger for couples who swop and enjoy sex with other couples? surely a single on here is someone just looking for sex " who cares | |||
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"Isn't the term swinger for couples who swop and enjoy sex with other couples? surely a single on here is someone just looking for sex " who cares | |||
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"Interesting post and good to see peoples _iews . We see singles as an integral part of the scene , especially as we happily meet both male and female singles . But the true definition of a swinger is surely a couple who involve others in their sex life . Whether that be other couples or singles , the term swinger wouldn't exist were it not for couples . Although our local club is having a party night tonight for singles only .... we are not eligible to attend as we are a couple ! " That's our _iew too but be careful some on here get a bit edgy about other peoples _iews being different to there's. | |||
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"Just out of curiousity...... When all these couples are looking for single fems.... What is it called then? Are they swinging but the single isn't??? I'll hang up and listen.................. " 1st question:- swinging 2nd:- yes | |||
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"Isn't the term swinger for couples who swop and enjoy sex with other couples? surely a single on here is someone just looking for sex " I understand that couples are termed the dated "wife swappers" whereas a swinger is someone that in promiscuous with sex life, with can be single or couple. Plus how would mmf/FFM happen without singles | |||
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"Just out of curiousity...... When all these couples are looking for single fems.... What is it called then? Are they swinging but the single isn't??? I'll hang up and listen.................. 1st question:- swinging 2nd:- yes" So what's the single doing? | |||
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"So do couples who also play separately too cease to be 'swingers' when playing without their other half? Or if a couple splits up but both continue meeting are they now simply 'seeking sex'? Not to mention how many pissed off swinging couples there's be if no single bi females existed!! Just on the last bit there:- we've no problem with singles, we love meeting single men prob wouldn't bother on here if they weren't. Just it's our _iew that they are not swingers but they are a large part of the swinging scene and it wouldn't be the same with out them. " If they enjoying same sexual act makes them swinger | |||
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"This old chestnut I was a swinger pre and during my marriage and my last long term thing, just because I'm single right now it doesn't mean I now go to 'desperate for sex' clubs. Couples swapping is only a part of swinging, and swinging is first and foremost a mindset in my _iew. ps 2 singles posing as a couple? when both are married elsewhere would be welcomed by 'proper couples swapping' but they frown on singles..... " | |||
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"Another thread against singles buuuu hoooooo lol." How's it against singles?? | |||
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"Another thread against singles buuuu hoooooo lol. How's it against singles?? " Not as such, but its like "singles cant do swinging". | |||
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"Before i was with Nik i was shagging different women most weekends,including three somes .i never considered my self a swinger.just a dirty twat." But with respect... how is that different from what you do now? | |||
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"I'm swingle and bi sensual and that's 2 labels for me " Swingle!!! Single swingers!!! Uv nailed it, im single so cant be classed as a swinger, im a swingler!!! | |||
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"I'm swingle and bi sensual and that's 2 labels for me Swingle!!! Single swingers!!! Uv nailed it, im single so cant be classed as a swinger, im a swingler!!! " right...not a swinger...bags packed, I'm off to find a swingler's site. Anyone care to join? We can exclude all those swinger couples and just have fun...lol | |||
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"I'm swingle and bi sensual and that's 2 labels for me Swingle!!! Single swingers!!! Uv nailed it, im single so cant be classed as a swinger, im a swingler!!! right...not a swinger...bags packed, I'm off to find a swingler's site. Anyone care to join? We can exclude all those swinger couples and just have fun...lol " Noooooo!!! I like those swinger couples!!! | |||
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"Maybe swingers is actually the better label for single folk, and couples are better labelled as 'wife-swappers' " I like this lol | |||
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"I am not really bothered what people call me. A swinger or a swingler. I have fun and some people are really glad to see me and have fun altogether. As long as no one looks down their nose at me as I am single then thats fine. I class myself as a swinger and lots of people want to meet me so all good for me x" Thank you. You've put it so succinctly I don't have to write this myself. It's just a word isn't it. | |||
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"Ah...as always the wise Mr Haive got there first...so deleted my post! The day this site becomes a 'couples swap only' one I'll leave. The day I feel I cant respond to a thread with my honest opinion, I will leave. Until then I will respond as I do, honestly and giving my opinion " | |||
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" Just it's our _iew that they are not swingers but they are a large part of the swinging scene and it wouldn't be the same with out them. How can someone be "a large part of the swinging scene" and yet be denied the same 'label' as others in said scene? Surely that's contradictory? " | |||
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"Maybe swingers is actually the better label for single folk, and couples are better labelled as 'wife-swappers' " well said 100% + | |||
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"Maybe swingers is actually the better label for single folk, and couples are better labelled as 'wife-swappers' " Now Jezz?? No offence, but that actually makes sense...even for me! | |||
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"Maybe swingers is actually the better label for single folk, and couples are better labelled as 'wife-swappers' well said 100% + " in the true sense...I dont believe wifeswappers are swingers...after all..its just vanilla sex with someone elses partner.....possibly in different rooms | |||
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"Before i was with Nik i was shagging different women most weekends,including three somes .i never considered my self a swinger.just a dirty twat." So basically if you are single nut enjoy the swinging lifestyle you're a dirty twat and you're not welcomed into the swinging 'club' until you find a fellow dirty twat to pair up with?! Being single doesn't change the person I am, it just affects the way I can play. Yes I enjoy sex and yes I like to have sex with multiple partners but if I were to meet a guy that could put up with me and have a relationship with me then I would want us to have sex with multiple partners together. I'd still the same person with the same outlook on sex, I'd just be lucky enough to have someone to share it with. And I too am going to use the eye roll as I find the whole assumption that because someone is single they're just looking for an easy lay...I've known some of my meets for 2-3 years and have developed friendship with a number of guys so it's not just about an easy shag | |||
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"O.K how about this one. A single male meets a single female on here for sex, how is that swinging? After all, they're only doing what thousands of singles do every weekend in vanilla pubs and clubs, it's not swinging. However, if a couple meet another couple on here for sex they're swinging and if they met another couple in a vanilla pub or club for sex they'd still be swinging. Ask any vanilla person what swinging is and they'd say "wife/partner swapping". XXXX" I wouldnt put much thought what a vanilla person thinks about swinging though... | |||
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"I wouldnt put much thought what a vanilla person thinks about swinging though..." Always amusing when it comes up as a topic in the pub though. | |||
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" Ask any vanilla person what swinging is and they'd say "wife/partner swapping". XXXX I wouldnt put much thought what a vanilla person thinks about swinging though..." I suspect some of them might call it other things that are slightly less complimenary too | |||
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"O.K how about this one. A single male meets a single female on here for sex, how is that swinging? After all, they're only doing what thousands of singles do every weekend in vanilla pubs and clubs, it's not swinging. However, if a couple meet another couple on here for sex they're swinging and if they met another couple in a vanilla pub or club for sex they'd still be swinging. Ask any vanilla person what swinging is and they'd say "wife/partner swapping". XXXX I wouldnt put much thought what a vanilla person thinks about swinging though..." Why so? We've had many an interesting conversation with "vanillas" on swinging. Their _iews can be as valid as anyone else's. And on such a question as the one above, their replies are not swayed by ulterior motives. XXXX | |||
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"O.K how about this one. A single male meets a single female on here for sex, how is that swinging? After all, they're only doing what thousands of singles do every weekend in vanilla pubs and clubs, it's not swinging. However, if a couple meet another couple on here for sex they're swinging and if they met another couple in a vanilla pub or club for sex they'd still be swinging. Ask any vanilla person what swinging is and they'd say "wife/partner swapping". XXXX" How about this! If a couple meet another couple for sex then they're wife swapping! *unless there's a single or two involved - in which case it's swinging! | |||
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"O.K how about this one. A single male meets a single female on here for sex, how is that swinging? After all, they're only doing what thousands of singles do every weekend in vanilla pubs and clubs, it's not swinging. However, if a couple meet another couple on here for sex they're swinging and if they met another couple in a vanilla pub or club for sex they'd still be swinging. Ask any vanilla person what swinging is and they'd say "wife/partner swapping". XXXX I wouldnt put much thought what a vanilla person thinks about swinging though... Why so? We've had many an interesting conversation with "vanillas" on swinging. Their _iews can be as valid as anyone else's. And on such a question as the one above, their replies are not swayed by ulterior motives. XXXX" they have valid _iews..but valid _iews dont equate to having experience,,,the majority of vanillas think swinging is for those u find on jeremy kyle and that for a man to have sex with another man present means they must be bi... and to be honest, I dont always value the judgements of couples on the site either...who have barely swung themselves...especially when they are claiming to be correct in _iew of the original OP | |||
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" Ask any vanilla person what swinging is and they'd say "wife/partner swapping". XXXX I wouldnt put much thought what a vanilla person thinks about swinging though... I suspect some of them might call it other things that are slightly less complimenary too" Definitely, and make assumptions about what swinging entails...I've never yet seen a keys bowl in a club. Surely being a swinger though is about state of mind rather than marital status? Or do you cease to be a swinger when you stop being in a relationship? Do I become a swinger if I play with my FB and another couple for a limited time only? Or it swinging something reserved exclusively for married couples?! | |||
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"O.K how about this one. A single male meets a single female on here for sex, how is that swinging? After all, they're only doing what thousands of singles do every weekend in vanilla pubs and clubs, it's not swinging. However, if a couple meet another couple on here for sex they're swinging and if they met another couple in a vanilla pub or club for sex they'd still be swinging. Ask any vanilla person what swinging is and they'd say "wife/partner swapping". XXXX I wouldnt put much thought what a vanilla person thinks about swinging though... Why so? We've had many an interesting conversation with "vanillas" on swinging. Their _iews can be as valid as anyone else's. And on such a question as the one above, their replies are not swayed by ulterior motives. XXXX they have valid _iews..but valid _iews dont equate to having experience,,,the majority of vanillas think swinging is for those u find on jeremy kyle and that for a man to have sex with another man present means they must be bi... and to be honest, I dont always value the judgements of couples on the site either...who have barely swung themselves...especially when they are claiming to be correct in _iew of the original OP" Never seen Jermy Kyle but assume its a programme for chavs and scum? My preconception had been that swinging was an upper middle class thing - big houses, keys, bowls etc. Also that it was for older people. We've seen that. We've also seen dog rough. And a few in between. How do you know how much experience others have though? | |||
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"O.K how about this one. A single male meets a single female on here for sex, how is that swinging? After all, they're only doing what thousands of singles do every weekend in vanilla pubs and clubs, it's not swinging. However, if a couple meet another couple on here for sex they're swinging and if they met another couple in a vanilla pub or club for sex they'd still be swinging. Ask any vanilla person what swinging is and they'd say "wife/partner swapping". XXXX I wouldnt put much thought what a vanilla person thinks about swinging though... Why so? We've had many an interesting conversation with "vanillas" on swinging. Their _iews can be as valid as anyone else's. And on such a question as the one above, their replies are not swayed by ulterior motives. XXXX they have valid _iews..but valid _iews dont equate to having experience,,,the majority of vanillas think swinging is for those u find on jeremy kyle and that for a man to have sex with another man present means they must be bi... and to be honest, I dont always value the judgements of couples on the site either...who have barely swung themselves...especially when they are claiming to be correct in _iew of the original OP Never seen Jermy Kyle but assume its a programme for chavs and scum? My preconception had been that swinging was an upper middle class thing - big houses, keys, bowls etc. Also that it was for older people. We've seen that. We've also seen dog rough. And a few in between. How do you know how much experience others have though?" "we are new to this"- often rings a bell lol then there are the people who only meet a select few on numerous occasions All I'm trying to say is the definition of the scene is much wider than it ever was thanks especially to the internet, bisexuality also and finally, not everyone checks someone has a ring on their finger..who the fuck knows whos married to eachother really...unless theres documented proof...thatd be a fun sexy meet | |||
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"Bloody autocorrect True. We don't wear rings but have been together nearly 20 years. Which sounds very old. " well u both have rings anyway | |||
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"Isn't the term swinger for couples who swop and enjoy sex with other couples? surely a single on here is someone just looking for sex " Does anyone care? The site is called Fabswingers and singles are welcome to join. | |||
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