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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Can anyone explain why these women want to be owned by these so called bulls.alot seem to be black men.do that mean the women have to ask who they meet.do the bulls play away also.seems a bit unfair.keisha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because it's what suits them.. and not all owned submissive women are owned by guys that would say they were bulls.

As to what they would need to ask permission for.. that would vary.. as would expectations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can anyone explain why these women want to be owned by these so called bulls.alot seem to be black men.do that mean the women have to ask who they meet.do the bulls play away also.seems a bit unfair.keisha"

I've often wondered this.....I shall watch with interest. I always assumed it was a bit like a sub/dom type relationship but I don't really understand the mechanics of that either so I'm probably wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Same.can a bull on here or a woman owned by a bull please explain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's the control, the pleasure of giving it up to another.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I think a lot of people "say" they are bulls because they think it sounds good, but in reality don't know what it really means.... just like a lot of people say they are dom and are looking for subs, but dont get the dynamics of the dom/sub relationship....

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By *uietlyKinkyUsCouple
over a year ago

midlands

Its about dynamics and that is personal and open to interpretation of labels.

Even within ownership the dynamics are individual, some M's allow their subs sexual freedom, others control their subs sexual activity.

There is no hard and fast rule.

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By *neplusserMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Its about dynamics and that is personal and open to interpretation of labels.

Even within ownership the dynamics are individual, some M's allow their subs sexual freedom, others control their subs sexual activity.

There is no hard and fast rule. "

Unless the rules are infact hard and fast

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By *uietlyKinkyUsCouple
over a year ago

midlands


"Its about dynamics and that is personal and open to interpretation of labels.

Even within ownership the dynamics are individual, some M's allow their subs sexual freedom, others control their subs sexual activity.

There is no hard and fast rule.

Unless the rules are infact hard and fast "

In my case the punishment was but that's a different thread

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Load of rubbish, 'owning' someone, calling yourself 'a bull'.

Bull is the right name for it to some extent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Load of rubbish, 'owning' someone, calling yourself 'a bull'.

Bull is the right name for it to some extent"

Just because it's not for you, does not make it rubbish

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


" Load of rubbish, 'owning' someone, calling yourself 'a bull'.

Bull is the right name for it to some extent

Just because it's not for you, does not make it rubbish "

Im struggling to explain myself.

What I mean by rubbish is 'you cant own someone', can you? Even if you think you have full control on that person, you dont really.

I certanly didnt mean to call the 'hobby' (cant find the right word) rubbish, too many people do it for it too be rubbish.

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By *uietlyKinkyUsCouple
over a year ago

midlands


" Load of rubbish, 'owning' someone, calling yourself 'a bull'.

Bull is the right name for it to some extent

Just because it's not for you, does not make it rubbish

Im struggling to explain myself.

What I mean by rubbish is 'you cant own someone', can you? Even if you think you have full control on that person, you dont really.

I certanly didnt mean to call the 'hobby' (cant find the right word) rubbish, too many people do it for it too be rubbish."

Actually I know of many s's that are married to their Master and have signed legal documents to allow them to make decisions for them...... Define 'full control'

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"Can anyone explain why these women want to be owned by these so called bulls.alot seem to be black men.do that mean the women have to ask who they meet.do the bulls play away also.seems a bit unfair.keisha"

A woman wants a dom - he's either white or black, hes either white or black through preferences too.

What has that go to do with anyone playing away???? I fail to see the connection?!???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Load of rubbish, 'owning' someone, calling yourself 'a bull'.

Bull is the right name for it to some extent

Just because it's not for you, does not make it rubbish

Im struggling to explain myself.

What I mean by rubbish is 'you cant own someone', can you? Even if you think you have full control on that person, you dont really.

I certanly didnt mean to call the 'hobby' (cant find the right word) rubbish, too many people do it for it too be rubbish."

I think you may be confusing a Sub with a Slave, Both are lifestyle choices but quite different..As for a Hobby most will say its a Lifestyle thats far more fulfilling than building a Model Ship out of Matchsticks

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


" Load of rubbish, 'owning' someone, calling yourself 'a bull'.

Bull is the right name for it to some extent

Just because it's not for you, does not make it rubbish

Im struggling to explain myself.

What I mean by rubbish is 'you cant own someone', can you? Even if you think you have full control on that person, you dont really.

I certanly didnt mean to call the 'hobby' (cant find the right word) rubbish, too many people do it for it too be rubbish."

you can mate, and when you do, they would literally do anything.

Master and Bull are two seperate things though. A Master would own and a Bull is effectively a good fertile dick

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


" Load of rubbish, 'owning' someone, calling yourself 'a bull'.

Bull is the right name for it to some extent

Just because it's not for you, does not make it rubbish

Im struggling to explain myself.

What I mean by rubbish is 'you cant own someone', can you? Even if you think you have full control on that person, you dont really.

I certanly didnt mean to call the 'hobby' (cant find the right word) rubbish, too many people do it for it too be rubbish.

I think you may be confusing a Sub with a Slave, Both are lifestyle choices but quite different..As for a Hobby most will say its a Lifestyle thats far more fulfilling than building a Model Ship out of Matchsticks"

Well, I did mention I was trying to find the right word (look for the bit in brackets) and yeah I could well be confusing the two.

People dont allow other people to tell them what and what they can and can't do (other than legal stuff I guess) away from the swinging/sex world.

The master says 'Your mine and your not allowed to even look at another man'. 'Oh ok I won't. (Just a guessed example)

Yeah right. Police that. Yeah I suppose they wouldnt have sex with others without asking for permission etc I can see how that works but even so, I still think the individual would be so differn't in other area's of life to this situation.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


" Load of rubbish, 'owning' someone, calling yourself 'a bull'.

Bull is the right name for it to some extent

Just because it's not for you, does not make it rubbish

Im struggling to explain myself.

What I mean by rubbish is 'you cant own someone', can you? Even if you think you have full control on that person, you dont really.

I certanly didnt mean to call the 'hobby' (cant find the right word) rubbish, too many people do it for it too be rubbish.

Actually I know of many s's that are married to their Master and have signed legal documents to allow them to make decisions for them...... Define 'full control' "

What decisions?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This has very little to do with swinging. Swing is about sex. I agree that its not possible to fully own another person be they female or male. But it is possible to enter into a relationship that has a D/s Dynamic that states that one person chooses to submit to another person. It has to be understood that this is via choice and that is always the case. No matter what is said or how it appears to the outside world. A relationship is basied on the choice to be part of that relationship. The proof of this is simple. No one can be made to do anything they dont want to do. The true dynamic in a Dom/sub relationship is that the sub has all the control. They can stop anything at any time and that is the control. Sex can be part of this but that does not have to be the case at all. Many fetish dwellers have nothing to do with swinging in any shape or form where as others enjoy the sexual element that can be brought into it. It takes a particular type of person to understand and enjoy this type of relationship and the same goes for couples who swing or who are sexually liberated. That being said swinging and Bdsm are very different but the two things can overlap and do more often that you might think. It is all about giving and receiving what is desired in your relationship. So no i dont believe that you can own another person but you certainly can guide another person if they choose to let you guide them.....

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Can anyone explain why these women want to be owned by these so called bulls.alot seem to be black men.do that mean the women have to ask who they meet.do the bulls play away also.seems a bit unfair.keisha

A woman wants a dom - he's either white or black, hes either white or black through preferences too.

What has that go to do with anyone playing away???? I fail to see the connection?!???"

without putting words in their mouth, I think she means is a bull "exclusive" to that person....

but it is an interesting question.... is a bull relationship the same as a sub/dom one....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would also add that the term "Bull" is not something you often hear in the Fetish world. "Bull" is a swinging term which normally applies to cuckold type play...

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"This has very little to do with swinging. Swing is about sex. I agree that its not possible to fully own another person be they female or male. But it is possible to enter into a relationship that has a D/s Dynamic that states that one person chooses to submit to another person. It has to be understood that this is via choice and that is always the case. No matter what is said or how it appears to the outside world. A relationship is basied on the choice to be part of that relationship. The proof of this is simple. No one can be made to do anything they dont want to do. The true dynamic in a Dom/sub relationship is that the sub has all the control. They can stop anything at any time and that is the control. Sex can be part of this but that does not have to be the case at all. Many fetish dwellers have nothing to do with swinging in any shape or form where as others enjoy the sexual element that can be brought into it. It takes a particular type of person to understand and enjoy this type of relationship and the same goes for couples who swing or who are sexually liberated. That being said swinging and Bdsm are very different but the two things can overlap and do more often that you might think. It is all about giving and receiving what is desired in your relationship. So no i dont believe that you can own another person but you certainly can guide another person if they choose to let you guide them....."

Ive probably learned about it reading this than I could of hoped, thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This has very little to do with swinging. Swing is about sex. I agree that its not possible to fully own another person be they female or male. But it is possible to enter into a relationship that has a D/s Dynamic that states that one person chooses to submit to another person. It has to be understood that this is via choice and that is always the case. No matter what is said or how it appears to the outside world. A relationship is basied on the choice to be part of that relationship. The proof of this is simple. No one can be made to do anything they dont want to do. The true dynamic in a Dom/sub relationship is that the sub has all the control. They can stop anything at any time and that is the control. Sex can be part of this but that does not have to be the case at all. Many fetish dwellers have nothing to do with swinging in any shape or form where as others enjoy the sexual element that can be brought into it. It takes a particular type of person to understand and enjoy this type of relationship and the same goes for couples who swing or who are sexually liberated. That being said swinging and Bdsm are very different but the two things can overlap and do more often that you might think. It is all about giving and receiving what is desired in your relationship. So no i dont believe that you can own another person but you certainly can guide another person if they choose to let you guide them.....

Ive probably learned about it reading this than I could of hoped, thank you"

Your welcome... Fetish or Bdsm is a very complicated affair. Far more than swinging and that can be complicated enough as it is..lol

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"This has very little to do with swinging. Swing is about sex. I agree that its not possible to fully own another person be they female or male. But it is possible to enter into a relationship that has a D/s Dynamic that states that one person chooses to submit to another person. It has to be understood that this is via choice and that is always the case. No matter what is said or how it appears to the outside world. A relationship is basied on the choice to be part of that relationship. The proof of this is simple. No one can be made to do anything they dont want to do. The true dynamic in a Dom/sub relationship is that the sub has all the control. They can stop anything at any time and that is the control. Sex can be part of this but that does not have to be the case at all. Many fetish dwellers have nothing to do with swinging in any shape or form where as others enjoy the sexual element that can be brought into it. It takes a particular type of person to understand and enjoy this type of relationship and the same goes for couples who swing or who are sexually liberated. That being said swinging and Bdsm are very different but the two things can overlap and do more often that you might think. It is all about giving and receiving what is desired in your relationship. So no i dont believe that you can own another person but you certainly can guide another person if they choose to let you guide them.....

Ive probably learned about it reading this than I could of hoped, thank you

Your welcome... Fetish or Bdsm is a very complicated affair. Far more than swinging and that can be complicated enough as it is..lol"

And well done for working out what I was trying to say, silly fool I am, I should of read what I wrote before posting. Id left the word 'more' out.

It certanly is an eye opener, I had a vison of people loosing their self respect and dignity, women mainly.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Ha ha.I've had a wink from a bull .want to own me.im a independent strong black woman.im in a relationship with a white man.i will never be owned.slavery done.

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By *uietlyKinkyUsCouple
over a year ago

midlands

It always seems to be perceived as women as the sub, however this isn't the case.

Its far to complex for this site. This thread has already crossed over sub/slave. Ownership/property & bulls/masters/owners.

As i said labels are individual. Dynamics are individual & not even the bdsm 'community' have exact labels so from a swinging pov its just does either side of the dynamic require permission to play?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't get me wrong some women and men do give themselves up to there partners and whilst that relationship is current they may well feel like that have given there whole life over to another person. But the fact remains that they made the choice to do that and they can make the choice to stop it any time they want. Taking responsiblity for another persons pleasure, as that is what it boils down to, is a big thing and can be very demanding and hard work. Trust me it's not a thing that you go into without really knowing your partner and even more importantly knowing yourself!!! I manage it by treating it as a game. A game that can be played as and when the time is right. Neither me or my partner could live 24/7 D/s but some people choose to do that and it works for them..

Many people believe that Bdsm is all about whips, canes, ropes and chains etc but they are very wrong. Such things are toys and nothing but toys. A true Bdsm relationship is in the mind and is a very deep, powerful and meaningful thing....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also i have come across far more sub men than women. Just thought i would throw that in..lol

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By *uietlyKinkyUsCouple
over a year ago

midlands


"Ha ha.I've had a wink from a bull .want to own me.im a independent strong black woman.im in a relationship with a white man.i will never be owned.slavery done."

That i would avoid at all costs. How someone can offer a dynamic to someone without getting to know them

Its akin (in my opinion) to marrying someone just because they asked on the second date

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ha ha.I've had a wink from a bull .want to own me.im a independent strong black woman.im in a relationship with a white man.i will never be owned.slavery done.

That i would avoid at all costs. How someone can offer a dynamic to someone without getting to know them

Its akin (in my opinion) to marrying someone just because they asked on the second date "

^^ I totally agree..

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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That i would avoid at all costs. How someone can offer a dynamic to someone without getting to know them

Its akin (in my opinion) to marrying someone just because they asked on the second date "

this... which is why the "bull" thing is an interesting issue... you get the feeling that "some" people who put on that label see it as a "one size fits all" solution...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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That i would avoid at all costs. How someone can offer a dynamic to someone without getting to know them

Its akin (in my opinion) to marrying someone just because they asked on the second date

this... which is why the "bull" thing is an interesting issue... you get the feeling that "some" people who put on that label see it as a "one size fits all" solution..."

Labels are a double edged sword. They give an impression of you to another person which may or may not be correct. But they also can give people a general idea about what you enjoy etc.. I try to see labels as general terms that way i avoid understanding without knowing.. Well at least i try to..lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would welcome a bull to own my wife

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Don't get me wrong some women and men do give themselves up to there partners and whilst that relationship is current they may well feel like that have given there whole life over to another person. But the fact remains that they made the choice to do that and they can make the choice to stop it any time they want. Taking responsiblity for another persons pleasure, as that is what it boils down to, is a big thing and can be very demanding and hard work. Trust me it's not a thing that you go into without really knowing your partner and even more importantly knowing yourself!!! I manage it by treating it as a game. A game that can be played as and when the time is right. Neither me or my partner could live 24/7 D/s but some people choose to do that and it works for them..

Many people believe that Bdsm is all about whips, canes, ropes and chains etc but they are very wrong. Such things are toys and nothing but toys. A true Bdsm relationship is in the mind and is a very deep, powerful and meaningful thing...."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some just get turned on with kinky mind games and control thing .. its not for everyone but some love it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go to the chatroons, they are full of "bull..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can anyone explain why these women want to be owned by these so called bulls.alot seem to be black men.do that mean the women have to ask who they meet.do the bulls play away also.seems a bit unfair.keisha"

Bulls, normally found on a farm. Subs, either an underwater vessel or a sandwich.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

X its a journey x one that needs exploring x but dont try to understand it x enjoy the ride

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