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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Why do so many men have a problem admitting they are bi? We girls don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do so many men have a problem admitting they are bi? We girls don't.

We dont. love it, adds to the fun, we find

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not Bi myself, but I have fucked a few blokes who were!

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

Because they feel it's not manly...:D...and some girls also see bi guys as not manly..:D...and besides...what level would you define bi? a ts lover?..:D..a cocksucker??...or loves being suck??or only when they accept anal?

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By *eanneTVTV/TS
over a year ago

glasgow

Really dont know the answer to this one but you would be surprised at the number of "straight" guys one here that want to meet a tranny lol

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman
over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!

pmsl leanne luvs ya hun xxxxxxxxx

yeah think its the matcho thing u know guys got to be seen a str8 because other men cant distnguish the diffrence between bi n gay n they dont wanna be classed as guy .....

had my first two bi guy experiiance a wee while ago n both guys were extremy manly and very sexy one of my best ever meets ...

oh n i also think bi weather woman or man r more respectful of ppls wishes and never try n push the boundries .......

luv jacs

xxxx

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By *ichNjudyCouple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

almost all the straight guys on here are actually straightish arn't they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well ive been known in the past to have a dabble in the "bisexual" field,

though be it when well horny and in certain situations.

Its now a rarity and tend to play only with men , but would never say never.

Thus saying ...i put that im straight in my profile soley because im not seeking bi experiences.

If it happens , it happens but i now prefer to meet straight.

Am i wrong in my classification ,

or should it read "Bi curious" ?

always wondered ?

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

The bi guy thing just dosn't do it for me, but then I consider all blokes as uggly women.. (im not interested in either)

I just don't see what women find sexy in a bloke, the penis is anything but good looking (thouugh mine does a fantastic impression of gonzo of the muppet show)

Saying that it dosn't bother me one bit if a guy aproaches me, I just politely say "no thanks not my thing mate" and they generaly accept it..

May have had that old macho "omg dude your gay" and run a mile attitude when I was younger, but now I'm far to mellow..

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

Female bisexuality are considered recreational by women themselves...and men consider gay, bi,str8 more logically and they have obvious lines that they do not cross...who are we to judge their sexuality calling them bisexual who are hiding?they know their own sexuality...some people outside the swinging world even men who shares their wife for mfm as gay....noted not bisexual but gay...while all he wanted to see was his wife getting pleasure...nothing to do with the man...they are not sexually attracted to the men.

trans are a more difficult subject to cover...and noted...there are also trannys who are women becoming men. It all depends on what do you consider a tranvestite or a transexual? are they women, men or another gender alltogether...call tv/ts...how about crossdresser?

I as a women would do a women who have become a very hot man...if I were straight but would never do a transexual...He on the other hand, would only do convincing transexual (pre-op or post-op)...no tranvestite or crossdresser or man...so he considers himself not bi-sexual...as he is only attracted to women with something extra...caused he sees them as women...and it is his guidelines...:D...

even TV/TS can consider themselves str8 if they are only looking to play with men and are not sexually attracted to women...:D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm bi and do find that a lot of guys have a problem distinguishing

Between being straight, bi or gay they don't seem to be open with it as they worry too much about

What other people (small minded people) will think,

I love to play with single people or couples or groups who I find attractive

For the main reason of its fun sexy and turns me on!!!

People should accept they can have fun if they chill out and not

Worry what people think...... Its loads more fun isn't it???

(Wow got a bit deep there!!!) Lol

Hope all are well and would love to hear from new friends if poss? Xx

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By *n need of helpCouple
over a year ago

hull

men find it harder to find men that will try with them .simple as that

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By *i_garyMan
over a year ago

glasgow

I think some guys possibly put str8 as they are worried that some couples aren't into meeting bi guys. Although I can play str8 or bi I prefer to be honest about my sexuality at the outset.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do so many men have a problem admitting they are bi? We girls don't.

Because not all guys are bi

I had a very short dabble in my early teens just the once but never again

As straight as they come me.

Now Shaz, another story, she's as bi as one can be without being gay lol

Tony

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

Actually it depends on the OP definition of bi that she said men are not admitting...or is it many men or just one men in particular she's not satisfied with?...:D...anyway...I think should just live their life...why need to admit to others?...why should you care what other thinks and judge about you?...only you knows who you are...:D...people used to be judged for admitting they're gay/bi...now they're being judge for not admitting...funny society eh..:D...

"Why do so many men have a problem admitting they are bi?"

Because they don't have to...:D...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Actually it depends on the OP definition of bi that she said men are not admitting...or is it many men or just one men in particular she's not satisfied with?...:D...anyway...I think should just live their life...why need to admit to others?...why should you care what other thinks and judge about you?...only you knows who you are...:D...people used to be judged for admitting they're gay/bi...now they're being judge for not admitting...funny society eh..:D...

Why do so many men have a problem admitting they are bi?

Because they don't have to...:D...

So,in your book,its o.k to be dishonest with people who say they don't want to meet bi-males then?

XXXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think some guys possibly put str8 as they are worried that some couples aren't into meeting bi guys. Although I can play str8 or bi I prefer to be honest about my sexuality at the outset."

Nice one! Respect to you,its a pity there aren't more with your strength of conviction.We'd rather not have a meet than lie about sexuality just to get one.

Finding out you've been duped by someone can cause all sorts of trouble afterwards.

We're sure some of these "liars" don't realise this.

XXXX

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

"So,in your book,its o.k to be dishonest with people who say they don't want to meet bi-males then? "

Well...yeah...as long as they play straight...and not attempt to turn another person bi...I believe that people knows themselves best...so if they don't consider themselves bi then they are not....telling people to be honest with themselves and admit they are bi...are just like the close minded society who tells gay and bi people to admit they are straight...the world is not black and white...:D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not all bi males who say they are straight do it to get more meets, some have their own reasons which should never be questioned, and some DO respect that some people might not want to meet them, however that doesn't stop the minority that just cannot respect peoples choices, not exactly sure why they do this as theres something for everyone out there, but please dont tar them all with the same brush, we don't play with bi males but have plenty of friends who are bi, even one who had a profile on here and described himself as staight, but he would never have contacted a couple who stated they were not looking for bi males and if they contacted him he would tell them up front he was bi.

It's all down to respecting what people are looking for at the end of the day, we know bi males can play straight, and married men can play single, that doesn't mean that they shouldn't respect other people choices if they are not looking for neither.

Honesty all the way....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure if this answers the OP but all I can do is give my viewpoint and let others agree or disagree.

As I said in an earlier Thread about this topic some weeks ago I am what a friend calls 'Situationally Bi'.

By this I mean I say in my profile I am straight as I don't wish to mislead Bi or Gay guys that I will meet them. I won't. A 1 on 1 with another bloke just does nothing for me.

However I will happily play (only orally) Bi with the male of a couple if it is a turn on for the female. So while I will obviously try and please the male I am doing it primarily to please the female. For me I guess its part of the general fun or foreplay or even afterplay with a couple who wish to explore their own (and my) boundaries.

When I wrote this before I was accused of being dishonest and misleading people in my profile. But my profile is MY vision of how I wish to be seen. And I don't wish to be seen as a Bi guy because I don't consider myself Bi.

I don't know if this makes sense or adds anything but its my take on the 'Bi guy' thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think some guys possibly put str8 as they are worried that some couples aren't into meeting bi guys. Although I can play str8 or bi I prefer to be honest about my sexuality at the outset.

Nice one! Respect to you,its a pity there aren't more with your strength of conviction.We'd rather not have a meet than lie about sexuality just to get one.

Finding out you've been duped by someone can cause all sorts of trouble afterwards.

We're sure some of these "liars" don't realise this.

XXXX"

How do you know the guy is lying if he plays straight? And is he then a liar indeed?

The only way a guy can 'dupe' you or be called a liar is if, having stated he is straight, he starts to play, unrequested, with the male of the couple surely? And I agree that is out of order.

What if the apparently 'straight' couple want to play Bi with the guy? Is that equally as misleading? And believe me I have had that on more than few occasions. Some I have 'gone with the flow' others I have just 'no thanks'. But I would never instigate it.

I am not sure guys will put 'straight' in a profile 'just to get a meet'. After all isn't the profile written before any approach is made to anyone?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So,in your book,its o.k to be dishonest with people who say they don't want to meet bi-males then?

You say the world is not black and white,this is true and why some couples choose not to play with bi-guys wether they play straight or not.

As we've said on a similar thread, people only become accepted by society when they are open and stand up for themselves and their belief's.

Lying about it gets you nothing but disrespect and scorn.

History has tought us that if you stay in the dark you'll remain there.

Freedom was never cheap.

Its only because of the bravery of a few that the majority have got the freedom to be who they are.

Bottom line is, swinging should be based on honesty not bending the truth just to con a meet.

XXXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think some guys possibly put str8 as they are worried that some couples aren't into meeting bi guys. Although I can play str8 or bi I prefer to be honest about my sexuality at the oWhat if the apparently 'straight' couple want to play Bi with the guy? Is that equally as misleading? And believe me I have had that on more than few occasions. Some I have 'gone with the flow' others I have just 'no thanks'. But I would never instigate it.utset.

Nice one! Respect to you,its a pity there aren't more with your strength of conviction.We'd rather not have a meet than lie about sexuality just to get one.

Finding out you've been duped by someone can cause all sorts of trouble afterwards.

We're sure some of these "liars" don't realise this.

XXXX

How do you know the guy is lying if he plays straight? And is he then a liar indeed?

The only way a guy can 'dupe' you or be called a liar is if, having stated he is straight, he starts to play, unrequested, with the male of the couple surely? And I agree that is out of order.

I am not sure guys will put 'straight' in a profile 'just to get a meet'. After all isn't the profile written before any approach is made to anyone?"

We found the best way to reply to your post was in a Q and A format.Not necissarily in the order asked.

Q:What if the apparently 'straight' couple want to play Bi with the guy? Is that equally as misleading? And believe me I have had that on more than few occasions. Some I have 'gone with the flow' others I have just 'no thanks'. But I would never instigate it.

A:Anyone who changes the pre requisite for a meet once they're playing is totaly out of order.Be it couple,guy or fem.

People arrange to meet on the strength of a profile,if they lie about their sexuality on that to get a meet then whatever happens if they're found out is down to them.

Some folk can cut up pretty rough if they find they've been had over.

Q:How do you know the guy is lying if he plays straight? And is he then a liar indeed?

A:Have a look at the many bi,tv and gay guys profiles on the site.See how many "straight guy" friends and varifications they have.People do read,its not long before they get rumbled and word gets around that they're not straight.

Q:I am not sure guys will put 'straight' in a profile 'just to get a meet'. After all isn't the profile written before any approach is made to anyone?

A:That must be one of the most naive statements we've ever read on here.It was read several times jut to make sure we hadn't got it wrong.

XXXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm bi as are many of my friends, male and female.Can I just say that never do any of us cross boundaries unless we are invited. There also has to be some sort of attraction there as in hetero sex, it's not as if we're going to attempt to 'turn' straights or 'ambush' them! You flatter yourselves in thinking we would wish to.

I also know of many guys who have played as bi's but put straight on their profiles to get couples meets. I know of one who has bi or straight on his profile at certain times of day according to who he's attempting to arrange a meet with! I personally am happy to play with either sex and give pleasure to them both. I know of many bi guys who are happy to be bi with each other to turn women on in the same way that many many men I have found are happy to participate with women together.

There's reams and reams of pornography out there catering to the male fantasy of girl on girl action but are we to be denied the equally erotic male male action?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm bi as are many of my friends, male and female.Can I just say that never do any of us cross boundaries unless we are invited. There also has to be some sort of attraction there as in hetero sex, it's not as if we're going to attempt to 'turn' straights or 'ambush' them! You flatter yourselves in thinking we would wish to.

There's reams and reams of pornography out there catering to the male fantasy of girl on girl action but are we to be denied the equally erotic male male action?"

Trace is genuinely bi,because she loves sex with women,not just to please the guys she also has a female lover.

We will only meet couples with bi females as she has no interest in straight fem's.However she'd never say she was straight to get a meet as she has no interest in playing straight.

So if bi fems don't need to lie to get more meets why do bi guys? Why can't they just be satisfied with the meets they're getting?

Although she's bi herself though,the thought of M/M action turns her off, and,needless to say,me too.

Which is another reason we won't meet bi guys wether they play straight or not.Also why we'd be so angry if we'd been lied to.

XXXX

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

"As we've said on a similar thread, people only become accepted by society when they are open and stand up for themselves and their belief's.

Lying about it gets you nothing but disrespect and scorn."

But if they consider themselves straight and put as straight...how can that be lying?...some people here states that they are not here just for the sex...so why should a guy who have other bi guys friends and verifications being considered as bi?...they could've just meet for fun or maybe when they went wanking together or they were experimenting?...:D...

Society are different wherever you go...saying that lying will get you nowhere in society is a naive vision of society...and even in swinging society I have found some people lies to protect themselves...be it names, background or out of self-interest...but if it doesn't do harm to you, then why judge them?

Nobody is stopping the girls from having male on male fun....just get from people who are really bi...and in fact some straight guys are willing to bend the rules for the pleasure of their partner...but that does not mean they are bi...same as girls...how many girls here put themselves as bi-curious despite having already played with girls many times? as they don't consider themselves 100% bisexual...

There are also girls who played with girls for satisfaction of their spouse but not their own...the part of girl on girl that they enjoyed are the part where it turns in their spouse...not the part that they are playing with a girl...and they can be honest with their partner and the people they are playing with be it boys or girls...but how would you know their circumstances if you are not part of the people?

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By *hotandsexyCouple
over a year ago

llanelli

"As we've said on a similar thread, people only become accepted by society when they are open and stand up for themselves and their belief's.

Lying about it gets you nothing but disrespect and scorn.

well i am bi curious and still on st8 on profile as i have not yet experimenting. and not sure if i ever will.. so i was thinking it may not be fair to mark my self as bi curious and lead peeps on that something will happen.so till that day, who knows lol

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

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"So,in your book,its o.k to be dishonest with people who say they don't want to meet bi-males then?

You say the world is not black and white,this is true and why some couples choose not to play with bi-guys wether they play straight or not.

As we've said on a similar thread, people only become accepted by society when they are open and stand up for themselves and their belief's.

Lying about it gets you nothing but disrespect and scorn.

History has tought us that if you stay in the dark you'll remain there.

Freedom was never cheap.

Its only because of the bravery of a few that the majority have got the freedom to be who they are.

Bottom line is, swinging should be based on honesty not bending the truth just to con a meet.

XXXX"

While i agree with you totally about openess ..i think you left a couple of words out of the statement.

"ts only because of the bravery of a few that the majority have got the freedom to be who they are...."

i think you perhaps should of said ....and suffering ...for people who are different are always ostracised by various secions of the community throughout the ages.From the burning of witches to refugees.

Quentin Crisp ...beaten constantly in the street and branded a sexual pervert by the government

Oscar Wilde ...Tried and imprisioned for 2 years hard labour for gross indecency with a man

Hans and Sophie Scholl...2 students who declared opposition to the nazi party and were executed by guilloteen +77000 others who opposed and stood up.

Nelson Mandella...imprisioned

all the gays in the USA banned from all governemt Jobs by law in 1953.

There are so so so many more ..there is always a price to pay unfortunately when your different and stand up or come out.Although the swinging community is liberal and forgiving in some sense,in other ways we still brand people and luckily only point the finger.

Theres a thousand stories in the windy city and this is just one of them ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As it says in the profile... not even curious about being curious here..

Nothing whatsoever against those who dabble and enjoy just as long as they are honest and upfront all the way.. (Pardon the pun)

Its not the being that puts me off.. its the lies......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We found the best way to reply to your post was in a Q and A format.Not necissarily in the order asked.

Q:How do you know the guy is lying if he plays straight? And is he then a liar indeed?

Ah yes I see what you mean. I guess I don't look that deeply into profiles and maybe I should. I was thinking simply about meeting someone on the basis of their profile and they play as their profile reads.

"Q:I am not sure guys will put 'straight' in a profile 'just to get a meet'. After all isn't the profile written before any approach is made to anyone?

A:That must be one of the most naive statements we've ever read on here.It was read several times jut to make sure we hadn't got it wrong.

XXXX"

Oh dear. Yes I can see how that looks now! Well I don't think I am THAT naive but point well made. I guess I was forgetting some people alter their profiles according to the latest lie.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So,in your book,its o.k to be dishonest with people who say they don't want to meet bi-males then?

You say the world is not black and white,this is true and why some couples choose not to play with bi-guys wether they play straight or not.

As we've said on a similar thread, people only become accepted by society when they are open and stand up for themselves and their belief's.

Lying about it gets you nothing but disrespect and scorn.

History has tought us that if you stay in the dark you'll remain there.

Freedom was never cheap.

Its only because of the bravery of a few that the majority have got the freedom to be who they are.

Bottom line is, swinging should be based on honesty not bending the truth just to con a meet.

XXXX

While i agree with you totally about openess ..i think you left a couple of words out of the statement.

"ts only because of the bravery of a few that the majority have got the freedom to be who they are...."

Quentin Crisp ...beaten constantly in the street and branded a sexual pervert by the government

Oscar Wilde ...Tried and imprisioned for 2 years hard labour for gross indecency with a man

Hans and Sophie Scholl...2 students who declared opposition to the nazi party and were executed by guilloteen +77000 others who opposed and stood up.

Nelson Mandella...imprisioned

all the gays in the USA banned from all governemt Jobs by law in 1953.

Theres a thousand stories in the windy city and this is just one of them ...

Good post and quite right.

So don't you think,in these more enlightened times,that people who's predelictions put them on the fringe of society,owe it to all the above mentioned to carry on where they left off? After all they're hardly going to be jailed,tortured or put to the sword. However,the bottom line seems to be that bi guys say they're straight just to get more meets.Rather than be honest,open and stand up for their sexuality they'd rather lie in favour of notches on their bed posts.

XXXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As we've said on a similar thread, people only become accepted by society when they are open and stand up for themselves and their belief's.

Lying about it gets you nothing but disrespect and scorn.

The statement below must surely have been written tongue in cheek:

If guys are meeting up for fun,wanking parties and experimenting,then to say they're not bi is not only kidding themselves but everyone else.

I'm straight and the only experimenting I'm interested in is with the opposite sex.

As for your other statements and the stance you take on this subject,it leads us to believe that your bi but say your straight and that anything written on your profile should be taken with a large pinch of salt.

Otherwise why would you advocate the use of lies so universaly.In your book it seems its o.k to lie about anything,as long as it suits your purpose.

XXXX

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

"Good post and quite right.

XXXX "

Nobody owes anyone anything. It is a matter of choice. Some choose to become martyr, some doesn't. We would agree that some singles change their profile occasionally to get more meets. But there has also some singles says that they are bi to get more meets despite being straight. There is no absolute reasons for one thing, it is all individual cases. In the end it is all about choice. No wrong or right.

There's however, some double standards in swinging where couples with straight females would meet bi-females but not bi-males.

In the end, the reason why these people don't put bi in their profile is because they choose not to. Even those who change their profile can't be called liars as there are times when they feel they are bi and times when they are not (many types of people exist in this world)....:D

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

"So,in your book,its o.k to be dishonest with people who say they don't want to meet bi-males then?

You say the world is not black and white,this is true and why some couples choose not to play with bi-guys wether they play straight or not.

As we've said on a similar thread, people only become accepted by society when they are open and stand up for themselves and their belief's.

Lying about it gets you nothing but disrespect and scorn.

History has tought us that if you stay in the dark you'll remain there.

Freedom was never cheap.

Its only because of the bravery of a few that the majority have got the freedom to be who they are.

Bottom line is, swinging should be based on honesty not bending the truth just to con a meet.

XXXX

While i agree with you totally about openess ..i think you left a couple of words out of the statement.

"ts only because of the bravery of a few that the majority have got the freedom to be who they are...."

Quentin Crisp ...beaten constantly in the street and branded a sexual pervert by the government

Oscar Wilde ...Tried and imprisioned for 2 years hard labour for gross indecency with a man

Hans and Sophie Scholl...2 students who declared opposition to the nazi party and were executed by guilloteen +77000 others who opposed and stood up.

Nelson Mandella...imprisioned

all the gays in the USA banned from all governemt Jobs by law in 1953.

Theres a thousand stories in the windy city and this is just one of them ...

Good post and quite right.

XXXX

Yo be honest i take an even more cynical view and i am probably being harsh to some , but ....i believe that the bi guys who hide there true sexuality,know that many people percieve them as a higher risk ...and therefor dismiss them as an option. They hide behide the straight title .knowing they can claim heat of the moment when reverting to bi ...

there is nothing wrong with being bi ..but hiding behind the straight title denies and robs people of a accurate correct evaluation of risk .

Dont shoot me i am the piano player ...

I know some couples who are drawing em out by implying they are looking for a bi guy ...its unfortunately the only way ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

reading this with interest - (D here). Relative newbie, and until we started on here, never had a bi experience. Wasn't quite sure what to put on the profile when we started, as i wasn't bi-sexual, never had any sort of experience with a guy, so wasn't sure whether to put bi-curious. It's a difficult one to start off with.

Anyway, as you'll see on the profile, plumped for "bi-curious" and had a couple of yummy experiences so far as part of our couple, so all's good.

Never had a problem with any couple with my "bi-curiousness" - I make it plain that it's something I'm experimenting with with like-minded people.

And to be honest, profiles on here are really about what you want to be doing as a swinger- in my opinion, they don't have to go into every preference you have, if you're not going to be sharing these with people you meet? For example, if someone on here likes straight Anal, but has absolutely no intention of going this way with any of their meets, should they put it on their profile?

It's like, I'm not into bondage or fetishism etc in any way, but that doesn't mean I won't play with someone who is? It just means that there'll be none of that at OUR meet. Just because bondage is maybe on someones profile doesn't mean I won't meet them - i'll just be sure to lay it out that i'm not into that. Simples, no?

That being said, I'm happy I put bi-curious on my profile. If anyone we chat to or consider meeting has a problem with it, or is untrusting enough to think i'll pounce on their ever-so-irresistable cock despite them being straight, then that's someone i'd rather not play with anyway!

Just my tuppence worth really.

Mwah!

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

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Hello D

I would defend your right to do exactly as you wish mate there is nothing wrong with being bi or bi curious or Gay if that is where your sexuality is .the main problem comes with people who are listed as straight when actually they are Bi .

Swinging carries certain risks for everyone as there is no such thing as safe sex.what is acceptable risk for one person,couple, group is not necessarily acceptable to another.

It is really unfortunate that Gay men have a higher incidence of HIV than heterosexual (men at the moment)and because there is the potential for Bisexual men to meet up with Gay men,the perception of that additional naturally transfers to them,really unfortunate as many bi curious or even bisexual guys, i suspect are only ever orally bi ,which would cut that increased risk substantially. But as the terms are so broad ie Straight,Bicurious ,bisexual ,Gay its all people have to go on to make a judgement as to the risk a potential male meet is .

But there is nothing wrong with any aspect of individual sexuality apart from (for me) bestiality and paedophilia .

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over a year ago

But there is nothing wrong with any aspect of individual sexuality apart from (for me) bestiality and paedophilia "

Mmmm, so you will not be happy with my current status wording then I guess!

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over a year ago

As P.D said above,its the same for us.Like it or not,right or wrong,I'm afraid its a case of guilty by association.That and the fact that two guys sucking eachother is a big turn off for both of us.

The points above are usualy the main reasons many people don't want to meet bi guys,not the misconception that we're frightened of them trying it on.

Also those same reasons are why we get so annoyed when guys lie about it.

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By *ichNjudyCouple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

@trace&ric

Out of interest - if it is purely about increased risks and odds - there are a couple things on your profile which puzzle us, and you know we love to analyse things lol

here is one

'no tongues or fingers round guys bum holes'

Are fems bum holes different in this respect? personally either of us would rather not put a tongue or finger around any type of bum-hole (it's an exit isn't it lol) but that's just us.

And while you are clear about your reasons for not meeting bi or bi-curious men, but what about other higher risk groups you don't mention - people from London of all persuasions- and in particular African Born British nationals in any part of the UK - yet you don't state you would not wish to meet either of these?

While we we're looking up these groups to remind ourselves we came across a very interesting fact

This one is from

www.nat.org.uk/HIV-Facts/Statistics

(mods - this is not a commercial site so please don't delete unless you have good reasons why it breaks any rules)

Anyway here goes....

More heterosexuals than gay & bisexual men are now estimated to be living with HIV.

This is the spread of those males who are HIV positive amongst

Heterosexual 52%

Gay & Bisexual men 43%

Unknown 5%

Now we know you will say because there are more heterosexual males than bi-males, the fact remains that bi/gay males are a greater risk (the 43% of cases concentrated into a smaller population group) but then again the fact that heterosexual male swingers are amongst the small group who are actually sexually promiscuous, this must balance things up a fair bit

Anyway trace&ric we're not contradicting your choice or reasons but we do wonder why you only single out bi-sexual guys and not the others which the same logic would suggest you would not want to meet. You're very smart we have no doubt, therefore it would seem likely there must be an additional reason to the one you state.

j&r

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By *ichNjudyCouple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

Oh and just to clarify - we're not black-bashing here, we forgot to add that ethnic afro-carribean UK residents (opposed to african born) are actually in one of the lowest risk groups - along with the welsh lol

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j&r

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you believe those figures though, hence the reason this thread was posted, if people will lie about their sexuality on a swinging site they are hardly going to admit it in public.

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By *ichNjudyCouple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

well the are UK government heath figures - but maybe the powers that be have reason to fake them though we can't really think why they would... but they are the best we could find

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over a year ago

never said they did fake figures, but if a lot of men describe themselves as straight when their not, would these figures reflect that? thats what was meant.

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By *ichNjudyCouple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

Sorry yes we misread the post. It's a fair comment

j&r

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

"If guys are meeting up for fun,wanking parties and experimenting,then to say they're not bi is not only kidding themselves but everyone else.

I'm straight and the only experimenting I'm interested in is with the opposite sex.

Otherwise why would you advocate the use of lies so universaly.In your book it seems its o.k to lie about anything,as long as it suits your purpose.

XXXX

I am bisexual as I have stated in the profile..but he is not and he is sure of that..there is no need for him to put "not curious about being curious"...we have played with many bi and str8 single men and never ever experiment...and it seems that that is a personal attack eh?...:D...

The problem is singling them out as if they are doing something totally wrong just like how people outside the swinging society view swingers....people have many reasons for doing things...not all do for the same reasons..

It seems you have a very generalised view of bisexuality as the vanilla people has on swingers. There are many women who experiment but then realised they are not sexually attracted to women. So are they not bi?...it's the same with men...and men who watch straight porn together and wanks are not bisexual...as they are just guys with more confidence in being with each other company...but not sexually attracted to each other...so you cannot consider themselves bisexual...

How about the dom and cuckolds? there are many cuckolds who are forced to suck cock by their dominant mistress...but they are not bi or sexually interested in men...but are forced by their mistress and like the idea of being forced by their mistress but not the sucking part...

Yes. the sight of guys sucking another guys cock doesn't turn you on...so your not bi....good for you..it doesn't turn me on too and I'm a women...but you are not the only one in this world...:D

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over a year ago

Think your confused as to what this thread is about, it's about bisexual men who won't admit they are bisexual, for an example, if you looked at a profile and it stated we only want couples who are both bisexual want you reply?

Your correct some men who dabble have every right to describe themselves as straight, if they think they are, however why would these same men answer an ad looking for a bisexual male if they are straight?

It's just a shame people cannot respect people choices, if people don't want to meet bi males they should respect that and move on to profiles that do, the same as straight folks will pass by profiles who only want to meet bisexuals.

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By *inkygingeMan
over a year ago

Teesside & Manchester

It’s only a label, What does it matter what pigeon hole someone does or does not want to be in?

Fun is Fun!!!!! Thats why we are here.

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over a year ago

"It’s only a label, What does it matter what pigeon hole someone does or does not want to be in?

Fun is Fun!!!!! Thats why we are here.

You keep your pigeon hole to yourself mate!!!

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over a year ago

"It’s only a label, What does it matter what pigeon hole someone does or does not want to be in?

Fun is Fun!!!!! Thats why we are here.

You keep your pigeon hole to yourself mate!!!"

or ask jezza to send his pigeon messenger he got some good offers in retail lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You called???

I'm not bisexual myself, but I have given a few blow jobs to blokes who were!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You called???

I'm not bisexual myself, but I have given a few blow jobs to blokes who were!!!"

hello jezza its me the taxi man xx

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over a year ago

"@trace&ric

Out of interest - if it is purely about increased risks and odds - there are a couple things on your profile which puzzle us, and you know we love to analyse things lol

here is one

'no tongues or fingers round guys bum holes'

Are fems bum holes different in this respect? personally either of us would rather not put a tongue or finger around any type of bum-hole (it's an exit isn't it lol) but that's just us.

While we we're looking up these groups to remind ourselves we came across a very interesting fact

This one is from

www.nat.org.uk/HIV-Facts/Statistics

(mods - this is not a commercial site so please don't delete unless you have good reasons why it breaks any rules)

Anyway here goes....

More heterosexuals than gay & bisexual men are now estimated to be living with HIV.

This is the spread of those males who are HIV positive amongst

Heterosexual 52%

Gay & Bisexual men 43%

Unknown 5%

j&r"

The "no fingers round guys bumholes" was aimed at the women as we wouldn't be meeting bi males.The difference between male and female anus's/ani? lol,is that one is usualy hairier than the other,hopefuly.O.k,you wouldn't do rimming on a fem,we do on rare occasions but then we wouldn't do bareback 'ever', which you sometimes do.

It's a question of which risk is the greater,to us and the majority that's bareback.You can be as safe as possible but not wrapped in cotton wool.

As for African B.B.N's, we're fully aware of those facts and the ones regarding London etc and take whatever precautions necessary.

We've never met anyone from South of the Wash either,lol.Though we have met a couple from South Wales,the safest area in the U.K.

Our profile is very long and selective as it is,any longer and it'd look like the Star Wars credits.Which is why we don't state every preference.

Finaly,as for H.I.V positive male swingers,was that single or attached? Straight or Bi pretending to be Straight? If it was the latter that would no doubt boost the Heterosexual count.

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over a year ago

"It’s only a label, What does it matter what pigeon hole someone does or does not want to be in?

Fun is Fun!!!!! Thats why we are here.

Surely it matters to the people they play with.

Fun is only fun when it's with someone you want to share it with.Not someone whose with you under false pretences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm afraid its a case of guilty by association."

guilty? guilty of what exactly???

Absolutely nothing wrong with having a preference about who you meet - that's what's it's all about after all. But "guilty"?

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over a year ago

"I'm afraid its a case of guilty by association.

guilty? guilty of what exactly???

Absolutely nothing wrong with having a preference about who you meet - that's what's it's all about after all. But "guilty"?"

Its a phrase used in the legal profession,meaning basicaly that if you mix with and/or behave like a certain group of people then you become classed as one of them and are therefore guilty by association.

In this case it means that the majority of bi guys confine their activities to a bit of oral at a swing meet.

However,there are some who's activities go beyond swinging,into the higher risk area of clandestine meets with other guys, bi and gay, for full sex.

So that way they become tarred with the same brush or guilty by association.

No ones saying it's right but it is a fact of life.

XXXX

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over a year ago

i wouldnt say im bi however ash wants to see me and another guy play. not full sex just play with each others cock. i couldnt do this alone but i could do it infront of ash as i know it will b turning her on big time. me playing with another guy does nothing for me but it making ash so horny is what does it for me.

cutting a long story short does this make me bi the fact id do that???

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over a year ago

"i wouldnt say im bi however ash wants to see me and another guy play. not full sex just play with each others cock. i couldnt do this alone but i could do it infront of ash as i know it will b turning her on big time. me playing with another guy does nothing for me but it making ash so horny is what does it for me.

cutting a long story short does this make me bi the fact id do that???"

I wouldn't say you are and it reflects my post earlier in this Thread. I think its called 'situationally Bi' as you are looking to please your partner and not looking for Bi pleasure as such. Just shows how very 'together' you two are I think.

As I said earlier my meeting a bloke 1 on 1 just won't happen but turning on a lady by orally pleasuring her partner is actually very horny. And you'd be surprised how many 'straight' couples love it.

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By *eanneTVTV/TS
over a year ago

glasgow

"I wouldn't say you are and it reflects my post earlier in this Thread. I think its called 'situationally Bi' as you are looking to please your partner and not looking for Bi pleasure as such. Just shows how very 'together' you two are I think.

I have had a few experiences like this, I have met a a few couples where the male is straight and the fem has asked if she could see me with play with / suck his cock. I dont see it as the guy being bi or bi curious hell I hate lables I just look at it as everyone being very sexual. Dont be afraid to try something new you never know you may just like it lol

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over a year ago

I am interested in trying the "bi" thing, having just turned 40, I want to know if it's for me or not, although I am not gay and don't fancy men - I just want to experience all areas of sex, I didn't know I liked getting a blow job until I tried !! You don't know, if you don't try as they say. The trouble is how do you know how far to go ? If there are any guys who would like to "teach" me or offer any advice to a novice please feel free to message.

Nobby...

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By *exyangietgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

edinburgh

I've had the same experience quite often...but it seems OK as the guy always accepts the sensuality because I look pretty feminine

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over a year ago

Well, I'll admit to being Bi some of the time - though I'm pretty much Gay otherwise!

So far as guys go - I'm only interested in men who can admit that they're Bi - straight men are just so boring and limited, so I just can't be bothered wasting my time with them...

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By *lgernonMan
over a year ago

cupar

"Why do so many men have a problem admitting they are bi? We girls don't.

Me? Bi as bi can be. I dont really get the need for labels either or why people struggle to be honest with themselves.

I have a friend who identifies as firmly gay but has a regular mutual masturbation thing with his best friend, a polish girl. In this case though, I can understand him saying he is gay - he doesnt seek out girls ever and lives very much the anonymous one night stand gay lifestyle.

Other ones I dont understand - I sometimes get messages from "straight" guys asking to meet in a carpark in 45 mins to suck them off. I always say no and then some of them get pissy and say "What? You dont like me cos you think I'm gay?" Weird.

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

I think some guys are too desperate to get off that they'll go for anything...other guys...dolls...pies...etc...etc...as much as there are guys who are bi acting str8...there's also guys who are str8 acting bi...:D

To add some more answers to the OP...Marco said he thinks that women admit they are bisexual easier because even straight girls sometimes wants her guy to be in touch with his feminine side...while there's rarely guys that wants his girl to be in touch with her masculine side...:D...

Too lazy too open a new thread...but if a guy can be considered bi by getting handjob from men...aren't they bi from giving themselves a handjob????...:D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

bless the 'bi' discussion again, been ages since I lost the plot on a similar one ... but it's Sunday morning, am mellow, the sun is shining and I feel great so here goes...

OP... my opinion is :

1)some are Liars, liars, liars ( oops forgot, am mellow ) fibbers, fibbers, fibbers...

2) some will lie back and allow a guy to suck them off and give nowt back and truly consider themselves str8 (bless )

3)some dont want to face the prejudice that exists in relation to Bi guys ( not by all I hasten to add, some of the wisest comments come from couples wi no bi guys on their profiles )

I am cool with being orally Bi.. infact, I may even have a cock for Sunday breakfast ..

I only want to meet sexually with folks who are honest, sincere and I am sexually comfortable with .

I have done loads of mmf's with str8 couples and never once crossed a boundary... its called RESPECT.

I respect couples who put ' no bi guys 'on their profile .... ITS HONEST

and at the socials, I will meet up with some , buy a beer , have a laugh .. just because sexually they dont want to meet me, does not make them 'not my friends' ... it's ACCEPTANCE.

summary, some guys will sell their souls for their leg over on here ... I say some guys, BOTH SINGLE AND IN COUPLES... and a bi/gay mouth will do.

the HIV comments are valid, but there are risky fools in all groups.. more in Bi Gay, and the others mentioned above but also folks 'working abroad' are not often mentioned eg oil industry , so no shaggin anyone wi sun tan ...

if profiles were truly 'honest' ... it would allow for 'informed choice ' by all .....

ps, one bitchy comment..... couldna help masel, there are cocks I would rather 'nail my own scrotum to a park bench with rusty nails' that have any where near my gob, some of the sensitive str8's think ... all bi/gay's are GAGGIN FOR ALL COCK ... not this one ..

have a great sunday all xxxxxxx

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over a year ago

I do not consider myself BI but have in the past been with a few couples where the hubby has sucked and played with my cock while I have kissed played with and eatten out his wife.

I love to both eat and be sucked by someone who really enjoys it and to be honest got a real buzz out of it but do not fancy men sexually and will admit to wanking a cock while in the trio as well.

I think it was more of a giving pleasure to another person weather they be male female but it's females who really ring my bell so to speak

I have not done it lately nor do I hanker after it, it was just something that happened at the time and I am comfortable enough with my self to not run away like a scared rabbit.

As for ass play I do enjoy having my ass played with and yes have had it licked a few times in the past

but do not even have any curiosity as to what it would be like to have anything pushed up there OUCH!!

the reason I do not have Bi or Bi curious on my profile is well I am not curious and do not fancy men LoL But I suppose you could call me Bi Tolerant ?

I do hate labels though

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over a year ago

My chuckle is, I like some Bi fun. I have enough straight fun...

Of course what I really want from FAB is to meet a couple where they are both fine with a bi male and have some bi fun. I'm not going to say no to a nice looking couple for straight fun either, and the bloke needn't be worried that I will ignore his partner and just play with him...

That's the best part of being Bi, happy to play either way.

Top tip - make sure you know what you want to do in emails and chats before, all so simple...

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over a year ago

For many years I've openly classed myself as a bisexual swinger. I've no qualms about putting it on my profile these days, even though in years gone by, when swinging as a single male or part of a couple, confessing to being a bi male almost seemed tantamount to committing swinging suicide.

The way I look at it, is I'm being honest about who or what I am, so why should I feel that I have to change how I describe myself, or how I 'sell myself' on my profile. The fact of the matter is that I do enjoy situations in 3/4/more somes where everybody is happy and comfortable touching/sucking/licking whatever/whoever is nearest to them!! I'm not gay, I have no desire to sleep with/have sex with a single male, but I am adventurous in bed and enjoy giving/receiving pleasure.

I realised many years ago that by being so honest about my bisexuality, I was instantly cutting by 50 per cent or more the number of possible couples I could swing with, as so many say that they are not interested in bi-males. I 100 per cent respect that viewpoint, even if i do constantly think to myself:

a - I am perfectly capable of controlling myself and not pouncing on the male half if they aren't male. As has been the case many, many times

and

b - Who is behind the 'no bi males' policy? Is it a homophobic male half who is all for female bisexuality but is scared to even be near a bi male in case, perish the thought, their cocks may come within a metre of each other?

I am just of the mind that I'd rather narrow my options like this through my honesty, regardless of how many people I then become out of bounds to, if my honesty then means that I'm more likely to meet similar minded bi couples for comfortable, relaxed fun in a no pressured environment. I think it become a case of quality over quantity in terms of options.

On the subject of 'bi honesty' though, it has never ceased to amaze me, when I've been part of a couple and as a single man, how many emails I get from couples or males where they are marked as a straight male, but they are declaring that they 'like to suck cock'. Well, why don't you have the balls (literally) to say so then?

As someone who will happily play straight, I will always meet couples who say they are straight. However, where couples say they are straight but then confess to being bi via email, i always wonder are we a suitable match as they clearly lack honesty for some reason.

Anyway, that's my ramblings on the issue over and done with!

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over a year ago

"For many years I've openly classed myself as a bisexual swinger. I've no qualms about putting it on my profile these days, even though in years gone by, when swinging as a single male or part of a couple, confessing to being a bi male almost seemed tantamount to committing swinging suicide.

a - I am perfectly capable of controlling myself and not pouncing on the male half if they aren't male. As has been the case many, many times

and

Anyway, that's my ramblings on the issue over and done with! "

and good for you i say!!

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

@100percentreal....

Most couples would say it is because they fear higher possibility of STDs...though actually bi/gay use to be a higher risk due to less usage of condoms as it was only seem as a method to protect pregnancy...but I don't think it's the case these days...so probably many couples are still unaware of it...

and yeah...some does not play with bi guys out of fear of being jumped...just as much as single straight guys not calling themselves bi...there's many male half of couples that doesn't call themselves bi...:D...there's always a mixture of people in any community...

mind you there're also couples where the females are straight...but are willing or contacting others just for female to female play...:D

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over a year ago

"@100percentreal....

I can see what you are saying about the STD risk, but that is exactly the same in any line of swinging - there is a 'higher than average' risk of STD's for all swingers, which is why it is imperative for all to play safe, bi, gay or straight.

Is a bi male who maybe plays safe with 2/3 couples in a year riskier than a straight male who plays with a different couple every week, some of which is without condoms. Which isn't that uncommon...

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

I agree...the single male/female is a lot riskier...but some still can't open their mind enough to see it...they still think that bi/gay male...have higher tendencies of STD...it's more of a matter or perceptions really...and this leads to some bi-males to pose as straight males to get more meets...but some feels discriminated for being bi-males...i feel bad for you guys...

mind you...we don't mind playing with bi-males that can act straight...:D

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over a year ago

a - I am perfectly capable of controlling myself and not pouncing on the male half if they aren't male. As has been the case many, many times

and

Anyway, that's my ramblings on the issue over and done with! "

Yep honesty is the best policy sad that a lot dont seem to agree or are slow to admit it

You are what you are

At least the couples that do e mail us are under no illusions and know exactly what they are getting

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over a year ago

"I agree...the single male/female is a lot riskier...but some still can't open their mind enough to see it...they still think that bi/gay male...have higher tendencies of STD...it's more of a matter or perceptions really...and this leads to some bi-males to pose as straight males to get more meets...but some feels discriminated for being bi-males...i feel bad for you guys...

mind you...we don't mind playing with bi-males that can act straight...:D"

I think that the bi-males who pose as straight males to get more meets male the situation self perpetuating though. If a fewmore had the courage to stand up and say 'I'm bi' then there's just a chance that it could become more acceptable though, as 'others' start to realise it's more common than they thought.

Let's be honest about it, as I see it, people who compromise themselves by maintaining a lie in public about their sexuality in this way, just to get more shags, strike me as the type of people who would happily compromise themselves in other situations - i.e. say they always practice safe sex on profile but agree to go bareback with a couple who prefer it, just to get another notch on the bedpost.

And they are best avoided as far as I can see, I don't want to be involved with people who aren't honest as they bring risk with them. Be honest and let people take their choice, as swingmates have said.

Now, as foe you not minding playing with bi males who can act straight... what was your number again

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By *ordorCouple
over a year ago

penrith

Like us, where male here is somewhat curious, some we have chatted to feel that if we put this in the profile then it could deter some contacts from cples with bi fems and straight guys even though it is ONLY a curiosity and certainly not a must as it is the bi fem part that is more important.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why do people have to be labled, bi or otherwise, if your enjoying a session with a couple and you all agree, whats it matter what you get upto, its just part of the swing isn't it. Bit different if you were actively just serching for men, but as part of a couple its just sex straight or bi, who cares, just do it if you like!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm down as Bi curious.

So whats that mean. It means in given circumstances with the right people I will happily be BI.

What it does not mean is that I will meet a guy on his own, though lots of people seem to think it does.

Bi means male and female involvement from my pespective.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well for most of my life I have been "Straight" but about a year ago I started to think you should try everything at least once (except peadophillia and country dancing). Perhaps it's something about getting older, but I think most men are gay (if that is what you want to call it) they prefer to spend their time in the company of men, whether that is at a football match, fishing or at the pub.

Most men love to have a blowjob - well if you close your eyes does it really matter who is giving the blowjob.

And even anal sex - a large No. of men would love to have anal sex with a women, so what is the difference.

If only people would open their minds and forget their prejudice's and just enjoy sex the world would be a happier place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi and happy here lol xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can safely say im straight and have no feelings towards the same sex as me and im being 100per cent honest

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over a year ago

"I can safely say im straight and have no feelings towards the same sex as me and im being 100per cent honest "

Yep dont think anyone has a problem with anybody being straight lol

Im not bi through choice i just am used to wish i was straight now i dont care xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well there is a awful lot of so called straight guys that want to meet, us tv's.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both I and my partner are bi and we're happy to state this in our profile, because we're comfortable with the term.

We subscribe to a very simplistic definition of bisexuality, which is that we're attracted to both sexes and we enjoy having sex with them.

We feel sorry for people who are attracted to both sexes and yet, with the convention of society, as well as the conditioning we've had since birth, they are unable to state it on their profile.

We don't feel misled when someone states on their profile that they're straight when they're bi. I suspect that straight couples would have more problem with this, as they may feel that they're vunerable to a bi couple jumping them. However, this is more about their misconception of bisexual behaviour.

We're all adults on this site and have the capacity to discuss our sexual preferences with people before we meet with them. The profile is really what we want the world to perceive us as, so perhaps I'm just suggesting that we talk more.

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over a year ago

I think bisexual is a very general term though. I mean if you are "straight" and wouldnt mind if a guy gave you a BJ, does that make you bisexual? I would think a lot of swingers are very relaxed and safe in their sexuality that they wont freak out if they have some sexual contact with another guy. They wont fancy them or anything, but the pervyness of it might appeal.

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

"well there is a awful lot of so called straight guys that want to meet, us tv's. "

and some tv's that consider themselves straight but meet guys...:D...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well this is certainly the environment to be if you suddenly fancy experimenting or trying something new.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From my experience, that's because they don't consider themselves to be a guy when 'dressed', so having fun with a guy when they are a 'woman' makes them straight.

If you know what I mean!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the same works the other way too I would think. Straight guys would not even consider a bi guy , but a guy in a long wig, stockings, high heels and make up makes it "okay" lol

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

So if a "tv" consider themselves "women" and is "straight" should a guy playing with tv consider themselves "bi" if the guy consider the tv "women"?

It's a weird and complicated world out there...:D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if you asked your mates down the pub they would tell you instantly bi or more likely "a right poofter".

end of the day they are only labels, you decide what you are!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hi all,

i have been bi for quite a few years now ,

and my profile states im bi,

i also have a female partner (dirtyduo4u)

she is cool about it,

i do get a hell of a lot of messages from "straight" guys wanting to meet

or suck my cock

they say it spoils there chances with the girls / couples.

i just LMFTO at them.

think we should out them all !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think bisexual is a very general term though. I mean if you are "straight" and wouldnt mind if a guy gave you a BJ, does that make you bisexual?"

Nah, that would just make them selfish fookers

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