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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

How common actually is it?

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

"How common actually is it?"

I don't think there's actual figures but an awful lot more then maybe people think outside the scene

Do a quick search for couples interested in it and you'll see there's quite a lot

Although how many of then are actually cuck couples or just interested who knows

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By *ancpl05Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend

We love it but finding true bull who understands the scene properly is not easy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We love it but finding true bull who understands the scene properly is not easy. "

Know exactly what you mean

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By *unwithus2.Couple
over a year ago

south kent

here here

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By *ouple_SpondonCouple
over a year ago

Spondon

We like aspects of cuckholding. Otherwise known as "watching each other shag"... Not really cuckholding but easier to name our pleasure as such... I think!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We like aspects of cuckholding. Otherwise known as "watching each other shag"... Not really cuckholding but easier to name our pleasure as such... I think!!

#confused

^^^ This ^^^

We love watching each other playing with others, but do not consider ourselves as cuckold/cuckqueen.

We consider there possibly needs some form of humiliation involved for it to become cuckoldry.

In any case, not interested in labelling our behaviour, or putting it into a convenient box. We know what we like & we like to enjoy it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How common actually is it?"

Think it is fairly common among swingers.But varies from couple to couple.What some may regard as cuckolding others may not.

Going from something fairly mild, the hubby just watching the other guy with his wife, to the hubby being humilated a bit, up to one extreme fantasy of the wife getting pregnant by another guy.

Note the word fantasy in this last part.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've done it a few times in terms of a 'taboo' role play. Was quite hot actually.

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By *istress v in yorksCouple
over a year ago

south Yorkshire

True cuckolds are kept chaste and the Dominant partner basically has all the fun they like. It has a part in BDSM and it isn't just watching each other. Not all dominat partners need 'bulls', that's mostly for less dominat ladies. The opposite is very dominant ladies who don't need so called 'bulls' who think they are sex gods with an attitude lol. Some of us just have normal men

And yes a lot of my subs are kept chaste and at times are cuckolded. However, the cleaning up of cum doesn't happen as I only have safe sex. If one of my fbs decides to cum all over the sub's face so be it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having been a cuckold for 5 years. And now due to circumstances I enjoy being the bull...for a cuckold relationship to work it must be enjoyed by all taking part.

The hotwife being treated to new clothes...being bathed and prepared prior to her being taken by the bull....in front of cuckold. ..cuckold in another room...cuckold only allowed clean up duties...sometimes bi clean up...there are lots of options. ...

But mainly it is a lifestyle (part time or full time for the cuck) and the mental torture\pleasure that his hotwife can bring to the relationship alongside a good bull

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Having been a cuckold for 5 years. And now due to circumstances I enjoy being the bull...for a cuckold relationship to work it must be enjoyed by all taking part.

But mainly it is a lifestyle (part time or full time for the cuck) and the mental torture\pleasure that his hotwife can bring to the relationship alongside a good bull

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We love it but finding true bull who understands the scene properly is not easy. "

So true... In 14 years, we have only met 2

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"True cuckolds are kept chaste and the Dominant partner basically has all the fun they like. It has a part in BDSM and it isn't just watching each other. Not all dominat partners need 'bulls', that's mostly for less dominat ladies. The opposite is very dominant ladies who don't need so called 'bulls' who think they are sex gods with an attitude lol. Some of us just have normal men

Could not disagree more. There is too much over complication. A cuckold is a man with a wife who is unfaithful. Simple... So technically every full swap swinger has a cuckold Male.

But the modern thinking with a Bull does reflect more your description.

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

I think the more modern version of cuckholding is a lot more than am unfaithful wife

There's a psychological aspect to the play which gives the cuck as well as the guy/ bull and the woman a lot of pleasure in different ways.

Without this aspect and just with wife swapping at a club it's not really cuckholding

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the more modern version of cuckholding is a lot more than am unfaithful wife

There's a psychological aspect to the play which gives the cuck as well as the guy/ bull and the woman a lot of pleasure in different ways.

Without this aspect and just with wife swapping at a club it's not really cuckholding

Thats true. As mentioned earlier. .it is definitely a scenario with the mental side of it...the hotwife giving her married self ti another. Whilst the cuckold hubby is mentally torn/ frustrated/ and pleasured...a true mix of emotions. ..there are lots to be subjected to in a hotwife cuck relationship and as long as all involved take pleasure then a great time can be had by all "

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the more modern version of cuckholding is a lot more than am unfaithful wife

There's a psychological aspect to the play which gives the cuck as well as the guy/ bull and the woman a lot of pleasure in different ways.

Without this aspect and just with wife swapping at a club it's not really cuckholding "

No, still disagree.

David is a Cuckold. I (Emma) go out on dates with, stay in hotels and have sex with other men.

Sometimes we do this with David watching, sometimes in swinger clubs like chameleons or abfabs. Sometimes at home.

But I am unfaithful (not a cheat as he knows).

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By *ubberdollieWoman
over a year ago

Stoke

All new to me... cucks, bulls, hot wives. I'd really like to see a guy post on here and tell me what he gets out of being humiliated. Does he get off on feeling less of a man? And as a wife do you not lose all respect for you man or is that the point?

And please, i'm not being nasty , just rather ignorant ( in a nice way!)

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By *ovely CummingsWoman
over a year ago

Peaky Nipples

"I think the more modern version of cuckholding is a lot more than am unfaithful wife

There's a psychological aspect to the play which gives the cuck as well as the guy/ bull and the woman a lot of pleasure in different ways.

Without this aspect and just with wife swapping at a club it's not really cuckholding

No, still disagree.

David is a Cuckold. I (Emma) go out on dates with, stay in hotels and have sex with other men.

Sometimes we do this with David watching, sometimes in swinger clubs like chameleons or abfabs. Sometimes at home.

But I am unfaithful (not a cheat as he knows). "

Agree. A lot of what people think cuckolding is comes from male produced porn.

There are many different ways that things can be done but the true basis of a cuckold relationship is that the wife is the dominant sexual one and things are done her way. She takes lovers, boyfriends, fuck buddys, all in the knowledge of her husband (& consent)

This is where much of the humiliation associatnot with cuckold comes from, as within a patriarchal society, being in a female led relationship were the woman takes lovers etc with the mans full knowledge should be humiliating, not something he is proud of (which they actually are )

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"All new to me... cucks, bulls, hot wives. I'd really like to see a guy post on here and tell me what he gets out of being humiliated. Does he get off on feeling less of a man? And as a wife do you not lose all respect for you man or is that the point?

And please, i'm not being nasty , just rather ignorant ( in a nice way!) "

There's always ground rules & I think you have to have a slid relationship to start off with.

Yes I get off on a degree of humiliation but what happens in "the bedroom" doesn't have to influence everything

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By *ovely CummingsWoman
over a year ago

Peaky Nipples

And please, i'm not being nasty , just rather ignorant ( in a nice way!) "

This is full of many of the misconceptions of what cuckolding actually is, opposed to the fantasy version

Why should the husband feel less of a man?? Mine doesn't & I certainly haven't lost any respect for him. It can be argued that actually, he's a femininest & believes that I have the right to have sex with whoever I want, when I want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How common actually is it?"

I think its more common than people think it depends how you portray it

I mean how about an average couple

That arnt on fab , she is cheating

And not having sex with her hubby at all

He is just relieving himself watching porn

Then there are the reverse roles of that situation were the guy cheats in a sexless marrige

From an x cuck

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

And please, i'm not being nasty , just rather ignorant ( in a nice way!)

There's always ground rules & I think you have to have a slid relationship to start off with.

Yes I get off on a degree of humiliation but what happens in "the bedroom" doesn't have to influence everything"

Many cucks, and subs in D/S relationships have very dominant positions in their working/professional lives, as said above what happens in the bedroom maybe a polar opposite to what happens outside it

And a lot of cucks and non cucks do get off on the humiliation aspect of it, that's why the psychological part of a cuck relationship makes it a little different to just popping to Chams

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over a year ago

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By *ubberdollieWoman
over a year ago

Stoke

It is always fascinating to learn about new things. I can see that if a guy has a very dominant role in his work life he may find the reverse role a relief at home.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Like its already been said its a real mix of emotions but it feels delicious

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By *eddonistikMan
over a year ago

Manchester

So many versions, guys who just come and watch me and maybe others with the female, guys who've sat in the lounge while they could hear the action in the bedroom, sometimes while his wife says how shit he is in bed. Sometimes he comes in afterwards to clean everyone up after. Men who've just dropped her off then picked her up afterwards. It's pretty much like everything in swinging, whatever floats your boat.

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By *istress and SissyCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

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I totally agree, my husband wears cd 24/7 it's a way of life for us and no I don't need a bull who thinks he can dominate me or my cuck, normal men with the sense they were born with and respectful of ones limits is what true cuck couples want, annoys me that so many men on here message me saying they are dom/bull and what they want to do to my cuck, as if I'd let them anywhere near me let alone my beloved cuck..... Well said mistress xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Huh

I don't understand all this swingers jargon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quite common, had quite alot of experience, I love it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Having been a cuckold for 5 years. And now due to circumstances I enjoy being the bull...for a cuckold relationship to work it must be enjoyed by all taking part.

But mainly it is a lifestyle (part time or full time for the cuck) and the mental torture\pleasure that his hotwife can bring to the relationship alongside a good bull

All gobbledygook to me

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Like a lot of things in swinging or bdsm or whatever else you are into there are loads of people who think their idea of what cuckolding is is the only one ....

its different for everyone I suppose; I have met two couples who were into 'cuckolding' and they bot wanted very different things.

it was a case of meet chat and discuss limits wishes and boundaries; and after that it was all fun.... for everyone concerned.

there is no 'fits all' solution in this or anything else on Fab

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By *istress and SissyCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

"it was a case of meet chat and discuss limits wishes and boundaries; and after that it was all fun.... for everyone concerned.

there is no 'fits all' solution in this or anything else on Fab "
I agree, the nail on the head is meet, chat, discuss... That's where most men make the biggest mistakes about each couples cuck situation, they don't chat and discuss just jump in with their big boots haha, but I'm sure for some couples that is what is expected, it's just not for us xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting.. We meet a guy regularly who plays with Joan for ages making her real horny and wet but before he enters her, I make him suck my cock first.. Then he happily fucks her until she's about to cum, when I then enter her and make her cum on my cock, I then make him suck her cum off of my cock again before he is allowed to enter her. So in a way, he's like our cuck.. I guess??? I'm confused now!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And please, i'm not being nasty , just rather ignorant ( in a nice way!)

This is full of many of the misconceptions of what cuckolding actually is, opposed to the fantasy version

Here here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The history of the term cuckold is very very long. Shakespeare uses it!

The term itself is simple. But porn, the Internet and swinging had added to the very simple concept. Husband & wife... She is unfaithful.

That was a shameful thing on men who would be publicly embarrassed with the "horns" attached to his head and paraded in public for failing to keep his wife to himself.

It was like the original chastity belts for wives when the Knights went off to fight for months.

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By *istressdebssubCouple
over a year ago

cambridge

interesting thread ! my thoughts are many couples indulge in cuckolding in many ways and levels that are right for them . this is no different to say people who enjoy bdsm or sub/dom play in different extremes that are right for them . pretty much the same as the many different ways people are here to swing . full swap soft swap bi sex ect

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have not written on here for ages but this is a well discussed post and is a subject that is rarely debated.

Having been involved in cuckolding as the "extra" male for a number of years with various couples I think it seems to run as follows in the majority of cases :

1) the couple has an enviably rock solid relationship.

2) the husband is bisexual, but usually only orally and has a sperm fascination

3) it only really works well if you all become good friends.

4) most guys like to be "made" to suck cock and clean up the other guys sperm, they do not really seem interested in penetrative sex, it's all about the thrill of seeing their wife do something she "shouldn't", the bi sexual element of watching the other man penetrate his wife, and the subsequent sperm clean up.

Tom

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't want to comment on the "what is and isn't cuckolding" as I feel that's been covered in other forum posts and that's not what this one is about.

Having been on and off the swinging and cuckolding scene for 10 years I have seen the number of cuckold couples and people interested in it rise considerably. It was rare to find a cuck couple in 2002 when I first met a couple who introduced me to the role as their Bull. But now I see at least half couples that are looking for a single guy are seeking some cuckold involvement.

Genuine full on lifestyle cuck couple which I seek are also rare amongst those who want a cuck related 3sum.

Eddie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We would love to experiment but finding a true bull who understands the scene properly is not easy.

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

What makes a man want to be a "bull"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What makes a man want to be a "bull"?"

Good question! Personally I enjoy exploring what motivates and what makes a couple tick. It's exciting to be watched by a ladies partner and to feel her being turned on and to see him being turned on. The domination side is also fun for me, if the couple like to be controlled prior to the meet I enjoy sending instructions to them both, so you have a long build up and the event itself is just the climax.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To expand on my thoughts. I also enjoy taking cuckold couples on a journey from their initial desires and fantasies and suggesting other concepts of cuckolding they may not have considered. Finding their limits and pushing them politely and considerately!

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Seems like "bulls" are givers not takers, or at least the good ones are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seems like "bulls" are givers not takers, or at least the good ones are

If you just take, it's just a guy fucking your wife!

With my previous GF I had her cuckold me, becoming the cuck made me realise how hard it was to find a guy that wanted to be your Bull as opposed to just fuck my GF.

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

"What makes a man want to be a "bull"?"

What makes a man or a woman want to do anything alternative and kinky ?

Because they enjoy it !

I enjoy all sorts of things, and I suppose ultimately that is why I and everyone else on fab is here.

Fun !!!

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Yes but why do they enjoy it is the question

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Personally I enjoy the power exchange as much as the physical sex, the fact that you either take control of someone or surrender yourself too them is very sexy for me.

Having never been a cuck or a sexy hotwife (or any phrase you wish to use) I have no idea what they get out of it, but I do know that I find the act of playing with a lady in front of her man, or even without him there (on phone or on cam) very sexy !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

personally i dont understand why 2 people that love each other, would want to show their partner any disrespect (for want of a better word) by questioning their dignity.

we love seeing each other pleasuring other people, as well as each other, obviously, but to make someone sit there and be forced to accept whats happening, just dont get it.

that said, V has shown an interest at being blindfolded and just listening to whats happening around her, but would this be cuckoldry? dunno. would definitely not involve name calling thats for sure

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Comes back to the same thing as always - different things for different people.

the trick is to find someone who enjoys the same things / compliments what you enjoy.

that's the best thing about fab, there is generally someone for everyone whatever their tastes, kinks or ideas.

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

"personally i dont understand why 2 people that love each other, would want to show their partner any disrespect (for want of a better word) by questioning their dignity.

we love seeing each other pleasuring other people, as well as each other, obviously, but to make someone sit there and be forced to accept whats happening, just dont get it.

that said, V has shown an interest at being blindfolded and just listening to whats happening around her, but would this be cuckoldry? dunno. would definitely not involve name calling thats for sure"

some people would say swapping partners, no matter how much everyone is being pleasured is degrading to their relationships, to marriage to morality etc...its all about perspective

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

I am glad people enjoy this; makes life fun for me on occasions.

Shame some don't want an 'older' or 'more experienced' guy to play with !

But then its all down to preferences again.

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By *ptimusDMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

There isn't a typical scenario for cuckold relationships but it typically involves the male taking a back seat and the female being the main focus of sexual activity with third parties introduced into the relationship.

Not all cuckold relationships require Doms or Bulls. For some they're happy with the female taking as many sexual partners as she wants, as often as she wants and in any capacity that she wants, with the full knowledge and acceptance of the male.

Likewise, some also prefer Bulls to use the female for their own sexual gratification in any capacity they wish. And yes, some couples prefer the cocky, dominant and very assertive blokes who think they're demigods to be their Bulls.

It is simply a case of preference and tastes. And we shouldn't knock one or the other if it isn't our thing or we don't understand the psychology behind it.

For the cuck, his pleasure comes from playing a passive role in the female's sexual activities, in whatever form it manifests itself. Humiliation plays a big role in this for some and their involvement in the female's sexual activities could range from playing the role of facilitating the process of finding the female's sexual partner or partners to licking out the Bull's cum from inside or outside the female.

For the female, their pleasures come from a range of things that stem from her meeting other men with the male's knowledge or him being made to watch or play whatever role he is assigned. For some it is the freedom they have in having a sex life that covers the full range of their fantasies without being hindered by the presence of a man in their lives, especially as someone mentioned above, we live in a patriarchal society. Some may also find the sexual humiliation of their partners a source of pleasure. Also it isn't necessarily the case that the male is submissive to the dominant female in a cuckold relationship. Some cuckold couples don't use any of those labels. They just see it as a sexual thing they enjoy and leave it at that.

For the so called Bulls their pleasures could be anything from just having another female to fuck to their heart's content, to enjoying the scenario of fucking a man's wife and using her in any way they wish, knowing he has no say in the matter, watching the male see how much his wife is enjoying being used by the Bull, and knowing that the cuck feels inadequate and incapable of giving his wife the same pleasure even if he was allowed to do it.

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

very thorough and considered Optimus

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Wow, never thought there would be this much feedback, all the comments so far have been very interesting, it's great to see other people's viewpoint

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i just enjoy watching another man pleasure shelly, nothing more, nothing less, the sex after is so intense

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

"i just enjoy watching another man pleasure shelly, nothing more, nothing less, the sex after is so intense"

I can see from the picture why a man would want to pleasure her too; and enjoy you watching.

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By *istress v in yorksCouple
over a year ago

south Yorkshire

Read up on cuckolding, it is from BDSM, Dominance and submission. Nothing to do with swinging. Not over complicating it, it is what it is. Too many people read 50 shades of shite and think they know everything there is about BDSM.
"True cuckolds are kept chaste and the Dominant partner basically has all the fun they like. It has a part in BDSM and it isn't just watching each other. Not all dominat partners need 'bulls', that's mostly for less dominat ladies. The opposite is very dominant ladies who don't need so called 'bulls' who think they are sex gods with an attitude lol. Some of us just have normal men

Could not disagree more. There is too much over complication. A cuckold is a man with a wife who is unfaithful. Simple... So technically every full swap swinger has a cuckold Male.

But the modern thinking with a Bull does reflect more your description. "

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"There isn't a typical scenario for cuckold relationships but it typically involves the male taking a back seat and the female being the main focus of sexual activity with third parties introduced into the relationship.

It is simply a case of preference and tastes. And we shouldn't knock one or the other if it isn't our thing or we don't understand the psychology behind it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Read up on cuckolding, it is from BDSM, Dominance and submission. Nothing to do with swinging. Not over complicating it, it is what it is "

NO IT DOES NOT....

Everyone please use the power at your fingertips..... This is the history of the term what it means and where it comes from.

Cuckold derives from the cuckoo bird, alluding to the alleged habit of the female in changing its mate frequently and authentic (in some species) practice of laying its eggs in other nests within its community.[3][4] The association is common in medieval folklore, literature, and iconography. The original old English was "kukewold". It was borrowed from Old French "cuccault", which was made up of "cuccu" (old French for the cuckoo bird itself) plus the pejorative suffix – "ault", indicating the named person was being taken advantage of as by a cuckoo bird.

English usage first appears about 1250 in the satirical and polemical poem "The Owl and the Nightingale" (l. 1544). The term was clearly regarded as embarrassingly direct, as evident in John Lydgate's "Fall of Princes" (ca. 1440). In the late 14th century, the term also appeared in Geoffrey Chaucer's Miller's Tale.[4] Shakespeare's poetry often referenced cuckolds, with several of his characters suspected they had become one.[4]

The female equivalent cuckquean first appears in English literature in 1562, adding a female suffix to the "cuck". One often overlooked subtlety of the word is that it implies that the husband is deceived, that he is unaware of his wife's unfaithfulness and may not know until the arrival or growth of a child plainly not his (as with Cuckoo birds.)[5] Another word, wittol, which substitutes "wete" (meaning witting or knowing) for the first part of the word, designates a man aware of and reconciled to his wife's infidelity and first appears in 1520[6]

It's an ancient term! Deal with it.

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By *ovely CummingsWoman
over a year ago

Peaky Nipples

"Read up on cuckolding, it is from BDSM, Dominance and submission. Nothing to do with swinging. Not over complicating it, it is what it is. Too many people read 50 shades of shite and think they know everything there is about BDSM "

no it's not, the porn influenced femdom approach fantasy may have more BDSM roots but wiltscouple is right with the actual origin of cuckolding.

Never read 50 shades of tripe but have done my research on cuckoldry.

It's entirely possible to live in a cuckolded relationship without any BDSM element, ok, maybe most would say there is a Ds element to any female led relationship but that's because of the patriarch world we live in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My wife goes out and takes men , she puts me in chastity sometimes and puts me in anties , sometims she leav3s her phone on so I can hear , its the humilation aspect I love

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow!...I (jen) would love to watch a "skilled" mistress with her cuck....so any offers?...lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I must admit I never considered cuckolding to be bdsm & have always known about its Shakesperean origins & thought of it in them terms, as in unfaithful wife, which has now been modernised somewhat & is now enjoyed as a kink/fetish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"very thorough and considered Optimus"

Yes excellent explaination of a complicated question. i agreee and enjoy the scene also.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are so many people that put cuckolding on their profile but don't know what it is.

Cuckolding is a journey for the male, deeper and deeper into sub servitude. A total focus on the women's pleasure. To sere to please. Many men will get an enormous sense of pleasure from seeing the women they love happy.

It is tremendously psychological and can take many forms. The simplest and easiest is for the lady to take the lead, understand the males limits, the need to push them to preserve the excitement and plunge the male deeper into cuckoldom and take a bull. If she controls the bull and he is courteous to her and him it works. Most women will go for impact and impact means a black bull. Black men are men an come in the same shapes and sizes as white men but the psychological impact is massive.

What matters for long term is a 3 way relationship where each understands each other's needs.

And yes before you ask I have been both cuck and bull. Sounds wrong it know but. I realised what I liked and it gave me a massive insight into the cuckold mindset.

Any questions from cucks bulls or mistresses just message me and I will try to help. Don't usually follow threads on here.

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Why do you say the psychological impact of a black man is massive? What do you think is at the root of that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's the perception that black men have large cocks. Tell your cuck you have a man coming to fuck you. Tell him you have a black man coming to fuck you and straight away stereotype tells cuck that your going to have a cock bigger than his. He takes a step back into inferiority and the result is psychological. If you take numerous black men and he sees you unsatisfied, the stereotype is dispelled in his mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do you say the psychological impact of a black man is massive? What do you think is at the root of that?"

It's just one level of empowerment for a wife in a cuckold reltionship to have someone from a different race as her bull.

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Don't get the different race thing, no one mentions, Chinese bulls, Indian bulls, Inuit bulls or Mongolian bulls.

Don't get the assumption that every black guy is hung either, it just that an assumption.

Can anyone explain why some cuckolds seem obsessed with black guys. If you had the opportunity to meet a hung guy of any race or a hung black guy, which would you choose and why?

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

The psychological impact is part of the cuck scenario I think as much as the physical.

One couple I played with it was the impact of my age not my race, they were younger and the fact that she was satisfied by someone so much older in front of him drove him crazy (In a good way.

I suppose it was the reverse of a young stud for an older couple, but then each to their own !

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By *reampie Cleaner 69Man
over a year ago

Barnsley

Loving this post, are there any couples out there that would like to take advantage of a guy who would like to play sub role??

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By *reampie Cleaner 69Man
over a year ago

Barnsley

"Don't get the different race thing, no one mentions, Chinese bulls, Indian bulls, Inuit bulls or Mongolian bulls.

Don't get the assumption that every black guy is hung either, it just that an assumption.

Can anyone explain why some cuckolds seem obsessed with black guys. If you had the opportunity to meet a hung guy of any race or a hung black guy, which would you choose and why?"

There is just something naughty about a black cock!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm with The Ring - I am also an older guy and really enjoy watching the guy's face as I slide my cock into his wife for the first time. It's the fact that an older guy is pleasing her is the thing. One fem I had under these circumstances wouldn't let hubby fuck her for a week and kep texting me telling be when she whispered to him "that onld guy was the last man inside me"....

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

can understand the age difference taboo feeling naughty, but what is the taboo around seeing your wife with a black man, why is it more psychological??

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By *reampie Cleaner 69Man
over a year ago

Barnsley

"can understand the age difference taboo feeling naughty, but what is the taboo around seeing your wife with a black man, why is it more psychological??"

Cant put my finger on it, just know the thought of it turns me on more than anything!!! Would love to be dominated by black guy pounding a white pussy!!!

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

No body seems to be able to put their finger on it. It's a genuine mystery

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Does it matter why ?

As long as everyone who is playing enjoys it.

No point over analysing it, its impossible and even harder to explain it to anyone who doesn't 'get it'.

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Unexplainable it is then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always thought it was because these men see black men as an inferior race there for creating more humiliation for the cuck that his wife is being fucked by one, thought that was pretty obvious...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always thought it was because these men see black men as an inferior race there for creating more humiliation for the cuck that his wife is being fucked by one, thought that was pretty obvious..."

Idiot!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why am I an idiot for that? Realistic theory if u ask me...

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Why am I an idiot for that? Realistic theory if u ask me..."

Think you hit the nail on the head, makes sense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exactly, I dont know why he got offended like that, if anybody should get offended it should be me!! Lol, point is i suppose everybody in those scenarios enjoys themselves, im sure all bulls are aware that the couple are just "using" them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my experience with younger couples falls back to the school thing

Me being the Head and 2 naughty school kids coming for punishment.

Personally I sit a couple down and have a lengthy chat with them regarding their boundaries, likes, dislikes etc.

Majority of the time it's a case of the woman wishes to be pleasured either in front if her husband or he is in another room.

I have had men drop the wife off at a pre-arranged venue and then pick her up afterwards.

To me the humiliation factor and pleasurable for both parties is the "This is morally wrong" factor that they believe they are doing wrong to each other.

My pleasure is taken from the knowledge they are both happy at the end of it. Makes my job all the more easier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry just cut and pasted the post of the other person thinking that it would show up as faint.

Our comments start from where we say that we find it quite funny that the person we referred to does not know about the true term for cuckold.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

QUOTED FROM ABOVE:

There are so many people that put cuckolding on their profile but don't know what it is.

What matters for long term is a 3 way relationship where each understands each other's needs.

And yes before you ask I have been both cuck and bull. Sounds wrong it know but. I realised what I liked and it gave me a massive insight into the cuckold mindset.

Any questions from cucks bulls or mistresses just message me and I will try to help. Don't usually follow threads on here.

END OF QUOTE:

We find the first line of this post to be quite funny given that the poster does not understand the term cuckold.

It is simply an old medieval insult used against a man who may have an adulterous wife. It is just an insult to a man who may not have had 'control' of his wife sexually.

So going back to the OP's question of how common is it? Well taken simply every couple on here whose female has sex with a person other than their own partner, has cuckolded their other half.

Now we know that this is very simplistic and that adultery is only committed by a wife and therefore if you are not married you cannot commit adultery, ergo you cannot have cuckolded your other half. So with that in mind, going back to the OP's question, the answer is cuckolding is very common all MARRIED couples, whose wife plays with a different person on their meets has 'cuckolded' their hubby.

The term has become associated with humiliation of the hubby by the porn industry but this is just a misuse of the term, cuckolding has nothing to do with the act itself but was a derogatory term used by others to insult a man whose wife was suspected of adultery, nothing more.

So how does that make all the married guys on here feel, knowing that in the true sense of the word,if your wife plays on meets, your beloved has turned you into a cuckold?

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By *istressdebssubCouple
over a year ago

cambridge

people on these threads harp back to the original usage of the word cuckold from the 13th century and say there you have it ! nothing stays still for 800yrs even the English language is nothing like it was then . everything moves on adopting new avenues and meanings .not going to copy and paste the whole lot here but if you look on Wikipedia it gives the old meaning but scroll down and modern terms such as fetish and bdsm are there !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does it matter why ?

As long as everyone who is playing enjoys it.

No point over analysing it, its impossible and even harder to explain it to anyone who doesn't 'get it'.

What he said...just have fun and enjoy

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"How common actually is it?"

Well according to the Daily Fail between 8 & 15% of childrens biological father isn't who the father thinks it is so I guess it's pretty common.

If you mean role play, where the cuck is involved, I'd say it's less common.

It's always funny to see guys labelling themselves as 'Bulls'. It's a bit like the guys on BDSM sites that call themselves 'Master', both labels that should be given to you by others IMO. Same goes for single guys that call themselves a cuck, how does that work then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We love it but finding true bull who understands the scene properly is not easy.

Know exactly what you mean"

I think cuckolding means different things to different people. A range of levels, from mild to extreme denial, humiliation etc. I would say most people play at the bottom end of the scale.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm hoping to meet a cuckoldress who will have me perform regular cleanup duties and fluffing duties. Happy to travel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest, the true definition of cuckold has been hijacked by people, such as swingers.The true dictionary definition is simply a man whose wife has had sexual intercourse with another. In other words a man whose wife is unfaithful. Only sexually liberated people have put this more extreme slant on the meaning.

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By *istressdebssubCouple
over a year ago

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over a year ago

"people on these threads harp back to the original usage of the word cuckold from the 13th century and say there you have it ! nothing stays still for 800yrs even the English language is nothing like it was then . everything moves on adopting new avenues and meanings .not going to copy and paste the whole lot here but if you look on Wikipedia it gives the old meaning but scroll down and modern terms such as fetish and bdsm are there !!"

Its not a case of harping back to bygone times. I was simply suggesting that as the old original meaning had been taken in so many different contexts, there is no right or wrong definition. You could say that most cucks these days are actually self elected/inflicted cucks, who choose their own comfort level of "mock" humiliation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i just enjoy watching another man pleasure shelly, nothing more, nothing less, the sex after is so intense"

I like picking girls up in pubs so I let paula do the same , take back sex is amazing

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By *tressfreeMan
over a year ago

Northampton

Is true cuckolding a husband or partner just watching their partner with another man? Or is joining in acceptable? If so it's MMF I guess

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think watching in the main

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's common to be nterested in it in some form or other and in my experience it's normally driven by the males desires rather than the females. However cuckolding is hard to define and in my opinion shouldn't be. People have many different needs from it and different limits. Many think that being a bystander watching their partner have sex with someone is cuckolding but in reality it's more the chaste aspect which would accurately define the true definition. Most fall well short of this and are more voyuerisic than cuckold...but that's just my opinion

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

we have explored this aspect both as a Cpl with other guys, small groups etc where I have either observed the OH being pleasured, used and giving pleasure also I as the male have been allowed and very lucky to have met other fems/ cpls and taken the role of the 'bull'..

We know its about total trust, a solid relationship with no jealousy and fun..

any thing else, the different emphasis on terminology and the 'my definition is more correct then yours' doesn't mean anything..

its only a label..

whatever you call it if its enjoyable and brings you pleasure, enjoy..

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

"we have explored this aspect both as a Cpl with other guys, small groups etc where I have either observed the OH being pleasured, used and giving pleasure also I as the male have been allowed and very lucky to have met other fems/ cpls and taken the role of the 'bull'..

We know its about total trust, a solid relationship with no jealousy and fun..

any thing else, the different emphasis on terminology and the 'my definition is more correct then yours' doesn't mean anything..

its only a label..

whatever you call it if its enjoyable and brings you pleasure, enjoy.. "

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over a year ago

"people on these threads harp back to the original and say there you have it ! nothing stays still for 800yrs even the English language is nothing like it was then . everything moves on adopting new avenues and meanings .not going to copy and paste the whole lot here but if you look on Wikipedia it gives the old meaning but scroll down and modern terms such as fetish and bdsm are there !!"

People aren't just 'harping' back to the past here. The term cuckolding hasn't evolved over the years, indeed the current definition in the Oxford dictionary defines a cuckold as having an adulterous wife.

Cuckolding has nothing to do with BDSM, humiliation etc, the word has just been hijacked by others to describe certain MMF encounters that are not cuckolding.

So cuckolding is very common within this community, anyvwife who has playedcwith another guy has cuckolded her husband.

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By *ourbonKissMan
over a year ago

a land up north..... of leicester

Cuckolding has nothing to do with BDSM, humiliation etc, the word has just been hijacked by others to describe certain MMF encounters that are not cuckolding.

So cuckolding is very common within this community, anyvwife who has playedcwith another guy has cuckolded her husband."

I'm no historian but that's what I thought too.

from me

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over a year ago

Cuckolding has nothing to do with BDSM, humiliation etc, the word has just been hijacked by others to describe certain MMF encounters that are not cuckolding.

So cuckolding is very common within this community, anyvwife who has playedcwith another guy has cuckolded her husband.

I'm no historian but that's what I thought too.

from me"

I consider us to be a cuckold couple and agree with above in general apart from the humiliation part....cuckoldry has a lot to do with humiliation of the husband.

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By *ourbonKissMan
over a year ago

a land up north..... of leicester

"So cuckolding is very common within this community, anyvwife who has playedcwith another guy has cuckolded her husband.

I'm no historian but that's what I thought too.

from me

I consider us to be a cuckold couple and agree with above in general apart from the humiliation part....cuckoldry has a lot to do with humiliation of the husband."

I should have deleted the main bulk of the quote as I mainly posted to agree the last bit.

I've met a fair amount of cuckold couples and the triangle of texts between the cuck, the hot wife an me can be just as horny as the meet imo

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By *uddy4YaMan
over a year ago

Dudley

Great to see this discussion here.

It is what it is for each couple based on their kink, so many differences that it's difficult to make a generalisation.

Our fantasy is on our profile page.... Apply within

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over a year ago

Cuckolding has nothing to do with BDSM, humiliation etc, the word has just been hijacked by others to describe certain MMF encounters that are not cuckolding.

So cuckolding is very common within this community, anyvwife who has playedcwith another guy has cuckolded her husband."

My sentiments entirely !

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"I consider us to be a cuckold couple and agree with above in general apart from the humiliation part....cuckoldry has a lot to do with humiliation of the husband."

The term 'Cuckold' means that you have an adulterous wife. The only humiliation in this term is that it is used to 'out' the person who's wife is unfaithful. It has nothing to do with being humiliated during a sexually act but is an insult to the husband after the fact.

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By *istressdebssubCouple
over a year ago

cambridge

lots of people who post on these forums don't even have cuckolding listed as an interest . everything evolves in a few years let alone hundreds of years . if i didn't putting your money in a bank would still mean hiding it in a river or moat bank ! for those into cuckolding there will be many forms of cuckolding from mild to extreme . whilst the good old oxford english dictionary is stuck in the dark ages more modern dictionaries have far more modern explanations of the term . a words meaning evolves with it's usage over time and you only have to look at the amount of cuckold porn makers and videos to see that it has moved on a long way !

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over a year ago

"lots of people who post on these forums don't even have cuckolding listed as an interest . everything evolves in a few years let alone hundreds of years . if i didn't putting your money in a bank would still mean hiding it in a river or moat bank ! for those into cuckolding there will be many forms of cuckolding from mild to extreme . whilst the good old oxford english dictionary is stuck in the dark ages more modern dictionaries have far more modern explanations of the term . a words meaning evolves with it's usage over time and you only have to look at the amount of cuckold porn makers and videos to see that it has moved on a long way !"

I think we may have been misunderstood, we are simply stating that the word cuckold had a certain definition. It has been in use for hundreds of years and we quoted the Oxford dictionary to illustrate that the definition of the word has not changed.

Come on guys, you weren't serious about the porn industry being in control over the evolution of the english language. They are the very guys who are corrupting the word. The reason why there are so many varients of 'cuckold' movies within porn is because they want to increase their market by covering every possible kink their customers may have.

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By *istressdebssubCouple
over a year ago

cambridge

Now maybe we are wrong about the porn industry and maybe they never lie. So if i can just think back to when i started watching porn then all women i have ever met have had inflatable chests and all men have had huge....... moustaches. But thats not true and thats why i am not sorry that i am not a plumber today"
did not imply that the porn industry had anything to do with the evolution . was merely making the point that if they didn't see a market for it they wouldn't bother making it as it is all about supply and demand . whilst i am quite happy for anyone to interpordate cuckolding as they see fit there is no this is i am right and you are wrong . however most people that are into cuckolding see it as far more than a unfaithful spouse .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Trying to talk my wife into it lol

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over a year ago

We are not saying that we are right and that everyone else is wrong , we are just pointing out the definition of the word cuckold.

How people use a word is up to them but it doesn't alter the actual meaning of the word, just their usage of it.

Cuckold simply describes a man that has an adulterous wife. When combined with the fact that this was used as an insult to the said husband, it is easy to see how this has become attached to MMF meets, but this is not a true definition.

A an can, and was in most cases, cuckolded without his knowledge. It is a word more akin to an affair than anything else, the humiliation only occurring when the wife's little secret was exposed.

Every other scenario people think about today, in relation to cuckolding, is just a corruption of the words true meaning.

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By *istressdebssubCouple
over a year ago

cambridge

gives up pmsl . it quite clear that up until the fourteen hundreds people believed the world to be square so i guess it still is ! we as a Femdom cuckold couple know exactly what the modern interpretation of cuckolding is as do the people that contact us and all the yahoo groups as well as the dedicated websites . unless of course all of us are wrong !!!

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over a year ago

"gives up pmsl . it quite clear that up until the fourteen hundreds people believed the world to be square so i guess it still is ! we as a Femdom cuckold couple know exactly what the modern interpretation of cuckolding is as do the people that contact us and all the yahoo groups as well as the dedicated websites . unless of course all of us are wrong !!!"

We are not saying anything about right or wrong, we are not even giving our opinion, we are simply stating that the word has a definition. The word has not changed since its original usage.

Its modern interpretation is defined in modern dictionaries and just means a man who has an adultourous wife. You seemed not to like the Oxford dictionary as a suitable reference but if you check the Collins dictionary it has a very similar definition. It has nothing to do with humiliation but don't take our word for it, check the definitions in the current dictionaries.

That said it is only a word and people can use it how they see fit, even if they don't use it correctly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And as for the earth being flat (assume thats what you meant when you said square), the Greeks knew the earth was round hundreds of years before christ was born... a little bit before the 1400's you will agree x

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By *istressdebssubCouple
over a year ago

cambridge

"And as for the earth being flat (assume thats what you meant when you said square), the Greeks knew the earth was round hundreds of years before christ was born... a little bit before the 1400's you will agree x"
like i said some people views are set in stone or is it tunnel vision ?? ye to thee to you !!

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over a year ago

"like i said some people views are set in stone or is it tunnel vision ?? ye to thee to you !!"

Don't want to upset anyone, everyone on here is just after a little fun, you can call yourself what you want.

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over a year ago

"like i said some people views are set in stone or is it tunnel vision ?? ye to thee to you !!

Don't want to upset anyone, everyone on here is just after a little fun, you can call yourself what you want.

What he is trying to suggest, is that we all embrace the word "cuckold" new meaning ( whatever that is). A bit like accepting the word "gay" means being homosexual and no longer means being happy,merry,joyful etc. "Cool" no longer means something being a low temperature.

"Wicked" no longer means evil, of a dark and sinister nature. "Pussy" no longer means a small cat ( no, that's not a real word is it) ? But then whose to say what is a real word and what isn't. Confused ???? I bloody well am.

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

so a cool gay guy into pussys and being a cuckold .... can mean alsorts then ?

now I am confused !

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over a year ago

"so a cool gay guy into pussys and being a cuckold .... can mean alsorts then ?

now I am confused !"

Its simply a guy who feels the cold, but is of a happy disposition even though his wife has cheated on him and he likes cats....I think

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over a year ago

"so a cool gay guy into pussys and being a cuckold .... can mean alsorts then ?

now I am confused !"

How about the word "cunt" A vagina, an unpleasant person, an idiotic person.

Prick. To feel a sensation from a sharp object, a penis, an idiot.... Shall I continue ? Arsehole, Anus, stupid person, unpleasant person , unsavoury person. So many words can mean the same thing.

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By *istressdebssubCouple
over a year ago

cambridge

"like i said some people views are set in stone or is it tunnel vision ?? ye to thee to you !!

Think you might mean us, when you say 'views are set in stone' but that is simply not the case. we have never given our views, just simply quoted some facts, from reputable sources yet you refuse to acknowledge these definitions. Is more than happy to acknowledge the centuries old definitions . where as you seem not to accept that the millions of people involved in cuckolding and cuckold communities have moved on and actually know what thay are talking about

Don't want to upset anyone, everyone on here is just after a little fun, you can call yourself what you want.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"Is more than happy to acknowledge the centuries old definitions . where as you seem not to accept that the millions of people involved in cuckolding and cuckold communities have moved on and actually know what thay are talking about"

We don't think you have read our previous posts, we are not saying that you have not cuckolded your partner, we are actually saying the reverse and after looking at your profile you seem to have cuckolded your husband.

We have stated before that ALL married woman on this, or any other site, have cuckolded their husband once they have had sexual relations with someone else.

It's purely the adulterous sex by the wife that cuckolds the husband. This does not require anything else for a husband to be cuckolded, they don't have to know that their wife is sleeping around or give permission for her to do so. There is no need for any humiliation, name calling or BDSM. The husband doesn't have to watch or join in. The wife's adulterous partner doesn't have to be dominant, the so called 'Bull', he can be as meek as anyone else. The only requirement is that the wife has committed adultery.

So we would like to state again that EVERY couple who has a wife that plays sexually with someone other than her husband on a meet has in fact cuckolded their husband, this includes us, you and every other full swap married couple on here.

So going back to the OP's original question, cuckolding is very common with members on Fab, most married couples are at it whether they know or admit it.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Instead of concentrating on the literal meaning of the word it makes more sense to look at what cuckolding means as a fetish. There are quite a few fetish activities that bear only a passing resemblance to the literal, look at slavery for one. Lots of people enjoy a master/slave relationship as a fetish, it doesn't mean they enjoy being locked in the stinking hold of a ship and carted halfway round the world to a strange land.

Chill out people, it is just a game.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was only recently that I discovered people on this site looking for 'cuckold' experiences. So here is a view from someone who is looking in from the outside.

To me, cuckolding is when the male partner does all of the 'administration' for the meet, he watches the meet take place but is not allowed to participate, he cannot even play with himself. But to me, the cuckold part is that he is not there to derive pleasure from the situation.

His purpose is to watch his partner derive pleasure from not only being satisfied by a third party, but also from the fact that he has to sit and watch.

Does that make sense?

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

No it doesn't make sense

The husband must derive some pleasure from his role as "administrator" "watcher" and "celibate" otherwise why would he do it. Cuckolding is a two way street, both partners must get something from it.

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By *ustyBrunette35Couple
over a year ago

birmingham

"No it doesn't make sense

The husband must derive some pleasure from his role as "administrator" "watcher" and "celibate" otherwise why would he do it. Cuckolding is a two way street, both partners must get something from it. "

My thoughts exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great dicussion..It has qualified what I thought cuckolding might be about with large variations..ie not set in stone, different things to different people but with an underlying strong theme. I think those who wish to engage in it should meet and discuss! as the psychological needs for individuals would be difficult to portray over a few messages!

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By *istressdebssubCouple
over a year ago

cambridge

We have stated before that ALL married woman on this, or any other site, have cuckolded their husband once they have had sexual relations with someone else.

So going back to the OP's original question, cuckolding is very common with members on Fab, most married couples are at it whether they know or admit it.

However it is statistically far more common in the vanilla world, given that affairs take place in their millions everyday throughout the world and some poor bastard doesn't have a clue what his wife is up to or that he now has a new nickname...... CUCKOLD "
Agrees with some of the above but even in it's original meaning it refers to an unfaithful wife . so to say full swap equals cuckolding is really missing the point of unfaithful wife and faithful cuckold

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over a year ago

" Agrees with some of the above but even in it's original meaning it refers to an unfaithful wife . so to say full swap equals cuckolding is really missing the point of unfaithful wife and faithful cuckold"

The reason we state that all full swap couples have had their husband cuckolded because both the original and the current definitions state that a man is a cuckold if his wife commits adultery. To commit adultery a wife must have sexual relations with someone other than her husband.

At no point does it state that there needs to be acknowledgement by the husband of his wifes actions for both definitions to be satisfied. In fact we are pretty confident that most adultery is commited in secret, by those in vanilla world, and if this is the case then it puts in doubt your statement about a 'faithful cuckold', because in the vast majority of times the poor bastard will not know, and may never know, of his wifes infidelity. So how can someone be 'faithful' to something he has no knowledge of?

We believe that the issue with cuckolding is that it has become a generic term which is used now to cover every aspect of play between couples and in particular single guys. It means everything to everyone and thus means nothing.

You only need to look at the differences between posters on this thread to see that most have their own, conflicting, interpretation of what cuckolding is.

Everyone can't be right. So where would you start if you needed advice on a certain matter, the considered approach would be consult an authority on the particular matter. You would seek medical advice from a doctor, legal advice from a lawyer and therefore it seems sensible to seek advice from the correct authorities in relation to language and the correct definitions of words, so you would consult a dictionary. Thats all we have done in this case. Thats why we have said what we have said.

Now if people want to interpret cuckolding to include their preferences then that is up to them. Everyone has freedom to do what they want and call it anything but that doesn't necessarily mean they are right.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

yes but applying dictionary definitions doesn't work with fetishes does it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would like to try it one day lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"yes but applying dictionary definitions doesn't work with fetishes does it?"

It should do, thats what dictionaries do, they give definitions to words, words relating to financial, political, economic, sexual even fetishes. If they didn't how would you know how to spell a particular fetish?

And cuckold is not a fetish, it is simply a word to descibe a man with an adultorous wife.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never told anyone about wanting to cuckhold as I always thought I would be laughed at or thought a gf would think she wasnt good enough for me if I wanted to watch her with another man. But after reading a few articles and forums its a lot more common than I thought. Lots of couples try it and it enhances a relationship so I defo want to try it x

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"And cuckold is not a fetish, it is simply a word to descibe a man with an adultorous wife."

Not much point discussing it then, you are looking at it literally, I am looking at it from a play viewpoint

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over a year ago

"And cuckold is not a fetish, it is simply a word to descibe a man with an adultorous wife.

Not much point discussing it then, you are looking at it literally, I am looking at it from a play viewpoint

You only want to discuss it from your own personal, as you put it 'play persepective' and you are free to do so. However if you look at lots of posts on here they seem to conflict with each other, containing different elements. Yet one term surely cannot encompass everything and we don't believe it does.

The word cuckold has been hijacked to describe situations which have nothing to do with the true meaning. Yet when we ask people to look at the real meaning we aee told we are just using the literal sense of the word. As if thats a bad thing. Would you rather someone look at the fictional, fantasty or surreal definition. Its just a word, if you want to say it applies to you and your lifestyle then thats great.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

I don't see how it's been hijacked, people have taken the literal meaning and applied a bit of poetic licence. The basics are still there.

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over a year ago

"I don't see how it's been hijacked, people have taken the literal meaning and applied a bit of poetic licence. The basics are still there."

So what basics are these? And how much poetic license is allowed before an original becomes something else?

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over a year ago

"I don't see how it's been hijacked, people have taken the literal meaning and applied a bit of poetic licence. The basics are still there.

So what basics are these? And how much poetic license is allowed before an original becomes something else?

I'd say the basics are the most essential aspects which in this instance are the requirements that a lady be married and also that she have sex with someone other than her husband...

Her husband is either a willing cuckold or in the dark about it.

I think porn and people's imaginations have added the idea of bulls, bisexuality, humiliation etc .. But the essence remains. Wife fucks another man.

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over a year ago

"I don't see how it's been hijacked, people have taken the literal meaning and applied a bit of poetic licence. The basics are still there.

So what basics are these? And how much poetic license is allowed before an original becomes something else?

I'd say the basics are the most essential aspects which in this instance are the requirements that a lady be married and also that she have sex with someone other than her husband...

Her husband is either a willing cuckold or in the dark about it.

I think porn and people's imaginations have added the idea of bulls, bisexuality, humiliation etc .. But the essence remains. Wife fucks another man.

Spot on, that is exactly it... wifes fucks another man.

Everything else has just be added on and has nothingvto do with the proper meaning.

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By *istressdebssubCouple
over a year ago

cambridge

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over a year ago

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By *istressdebssubCouple
over a year ago

cambridge

"I don't see how it's been hijacked, people have taken the literal meaning and applied a bit of poetic licence. The basics are still there.

So what basics are these? And how much poetic license is allowed before an original becomes something else?

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it's not poet licence it's called progression . people who come to the forums and ask about cuckolding get out dated centuries old meanings quoted from a from oxford english dictoinary that whilst doesn't move with the times with sexually orientated themes but is quite happy to list dalek and tardis . two things that don't even exist !! those of us within the cuckold scene (says scene at the risk of being told there is no scene as it not in oxford english dictionary )would point people in the direction of also accepted dictionaries like the urban one that whilst giving the centuries old meaning also lists cuckold fetish (shock horror)interaccial cuckolding , hot wife , female led relationship, hot wife , cuckold chastity and denial ect ect .

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over a year ago

"it's not poet licence it's called progression . people who come to the forums and ask about cuckolding get out dated centuries old meanings quoted from a from oxford english dictoinary that whilst doesn't move with the times with sexually orientated themes but is quite happy to list dalek and tardis . two things that don't even exist !! those of us within the cuckold scene (says scene at the risk of being told there is no scene as it not in oxford english dictionary )would point people in the direction of also accepted dictionaries like the urban one that whilst giving the centuries old meaning also lists cuckold fetish (shock horror)interaccial cuckolding , hot wife , female led relationship, hot wife , cuckold chastity and denial ect ect ."

Secretly, we are beginning to think that you have something against the Oxford dictionary....?

Now we are going to going to come to it's defence, in that it is the main reference source for the definitions of English words. You say a couple of things about it, one that it does not move with the times, this is not true it's updated all the time, in fact selfies has just been added.

And too mention that the Oxford dictionary is flawed because it contains words which describe things that do not exist is a bit silly, would you have such things removed then? If that were the case fairies, elves, goblins and Father Christmas would be fucked then, wiped from existence.

As for saying that the Urban dictionary is an acceptable alternative dictionary is frankly laughable. Are you aware how words are included into this esteemed volume? Members of the public vote on whether it should be included. So if a words description gets enough 'likes' its in, what a wonderful way to see our language 'progress', allowing 'Joe public', rather than experts on the matter, determine what should be included into our language.

If you look at Urban dictionary it gives 7 definitions of cuckold. Which one is right, given that there is a vast amount of difference to their descriptions.

One description, from the first primary definition, says that a cuckold husband's ONLY access to his wife's pussy is to clean it of the ejaculate of males she chooses to fuck.

So if we accept your suggestion that the Urban dictionary is the way to go, does this mean that to be a cuckold husband means you have to have a celibate relationship with your wife, never to fuck her again and are only there to lick her lovers cum from her freshly filled pussy?

So how many couples on here would subscribe to that as a true version of cuckold and how many more would now say that that is an apt description of the fun they have together?

Please don't think that we are not saying you are not a cuckold couple, we are saying the exact opposite but purely because you fit in with the definition, both traditional and modern, which states that a cuckold is a man who has an adulterous wife.

Strangely the Urban dictionary defines cuckolds in this virtually the exact same way as the Oxford dictionary but you make no refer to this, guessing it may be because that does not fit in with your interpretation of the word cuckold.

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By *istressdebssubCouple
over a year ago

cambridge

Nortyair the OP asks a simple question and basically your answer is everybody on the site does it ! Wonders why they bothered to list it as an interest on fab as we are all doing it anyway. And obviously the guys on this site that contact us looking for cuckold fun don't know what they want . They can enjoy with any married woman on the site ! From Wikipedia as you missed it ! Unlike the traditional definition of the term, in fetish usage a cuckold is complicit in their partner's sexual "infidelity" and takes masochistic sexual pleasure in it. Cuckolds in the fetish sense also need not be male, and need not be married, although some level of pair-bonding intimacy or commitment in their relationship is necessary.[11] Among fetishists, the pose of reluctance—the victimization of the cuckold—is a major element of the paraphilia. (Which may be the reason for the use of the term "cuckold," with its connotations of victimization and inadequacy.)

In the fetish cuckolding subculture, it is most common for the female to take on the sexually dominant role and the male the submissive role, however, female subs, sometimes referred to as cuckqueans,[2] also exist. The wife who enjoys cuckolding her husband is frequently called a "hotwife," or a cuckoldress if the man is more submissive.[12]

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over a year ago

"Nortyair the OP asks a simple question and basically your answer is everybody on the site does it ! Wonders why they bothered to list it as an interest on fab as we are all doing it anyway. And obviously the guys on this site that contact us looking for cuckold fun don't know what they want . They can enjoy with any married woman on the site ! From Wikipedia as you missed it ! Unlike the traditional definition of the term, in fetish usage a cuckold is complicit in their partner's sexual "infidelity" and takes masochistic sexual pleasure in it. Cuckolds in the fetish sense also need not be male, and need not be married, although some level of pair-bonding intimacy or commitment in their relationship is necessary.[11] Among fetishists, the pose of reluctance—the victimization of the cuckold—is a major element of the paraphilia. (Which may be the reason for the use of the term "cuckold," with its connotations of victimization and inadequacy.)

Don't know what to say really.

But will give it a go......

You guys are missing our point totally, we are saying that you are a cuckold couple. Can we at least agree on that?

However what surprises us is that when you make a statement we reply and address your statement. We ask specific questions which you decline to answer, even though these are based upon your own findings. Why is that?

As for wikipedia being a source of reference, well it is we suppose but it is fundamentally flawed for exactly the same reason as Urban dictionary, in that it is made up from entries by the public. But even letting that go for the moment, and we look at the wikipedia article you are quoting from, that in itself does not suit your argument.

In the opening paragraph the article states that it was only in the 1990's that the term became used widely to describe fetish activity. So it seems that the word has been in use with only one definition for well over half a millennia and has only fairly recently been adopted to describe a variety of fetishistic activities. That supports our suggestion that the term has been hijacked to describe a plethora of activities, which has at their core an adulterous wife, you cannot be cuckolded without this. All other elements are non essential to this.

We believe that it also seems to be a bit coincidental that the 90's saw the advent of the world wide web and the massive explosion in the porn industry.

We believe that it was these guys who hijacked the term. They were probably too lazy to come up with titles to adequately describe certain fetishes and used a catch all name.... Cuckolding.

In the 4th paragraph it quotes that a cuckold was normally ignorant of the fact that he was a cuckold, we quote 'One often overlooked subtlety of the word is that it implies that the husband is deceived, that he is unaware of his wife's unfaithfulness...'. As we have said before the vast majority of cuckolds are to be found in the vanilla world, those guys who are unaware of their wifes infidelity.

However there is something else that you have overlooked, or omitted from saying, from the actual article you quote. There is a word which is probably about the same age but it's definition means that the husband knows of his wifes infidelity and tolerates it. These guys are known as Wittols, not a very catchy name we agree and that is probably why it did not take off in the 1990's, although after watching loads of cuckolding porn, and enjoying it we must say, this word seems much more apt description of the activities depicted.

So maybe if the guy in the 90's given the job of titling the films, had a larger vocubulary or access to a decent dictionary, you would be part of the Wittol fetish scene now but you are not, even though this word is a much better description of all the married couples on here whose wives play with other guys.

In regard to what the guys who contact you looking for cuckold fun want, it would seem fairly obvious that it is ultimately the same as all the guys, at least straight guys, that contact all the MF couples on Fab.... They want to fuck your wife.

As for the article stating that a wife who enjoys cuckolding her man is called a hotwife, which is described on wikidictionary as being an adulterous wife whose husband joins in, this seems to be in direct contradiction of one of your other quoted source of reference, the Urban dictionary, which states that a wife cuckolding her husband will only allow access to her pussy for clean up purposes. Just pointing out that both cannot be right, your either in or out, so to speak.

Finally, why Fab have cuckolding as an interest, we believe that they have been misled about the usage of the true meaning of the word.

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By *istressdebssubCouple
over a year ago

cambridge

Actually i grow tired of this lol . You seem so determined to be right and that modern cuckolding is not how people in the scene enjoy it and understand and that includes the couples you will find on fab by doing a simple user name search .So i give up . You are quite clearly right and we are all wrong . After you read this post please feel free to have the last word as it seems to be of importance ti you .

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

"The language is perpetually in flux: it is a living stream, shifting, changing, receiving new strength from a thousand tributaries, losing old forms in the backwaters of time.”—E.B. White, The Elements of Style

Business has a way of inventing its own vocabulary. Often the results are disappointing—long, Latinate words like formalize and utilize and monetize, or Frankenspeak like impactful or learnings. (I’ve written about this before; you can read a whole slew of words to avoid here and here.)

But at the same time, words can shift and expand in meaning, too.

Perhaps nowhere has that flux been happening with more speed and agility than in the world of business. Social media marketing and technology are driving much of the shift—particularly of common words that existed for generations with a single, specific meaning but now find themselves with a complexity of depth and meaning that might surprise even the words themselves—that is, if words had the capacity to self-reflect.

Take "friend," for example. For generations, a “friend” was simply an ally. A supporter. Someone to regard with affection and trust.

Then Facebook comes along, and suddenly the meaning of “friend” is called into question both in an existential way as a noun (Is someone a “friend” even if I’ve never met them, but only know them online?) as well as a verb meaning to add someone to the list of people with whom you're connected to online.

What other words have expanded and morphed in our newly social world? Tagging, recommend, traffic, fan, post, wall, hacking, influence, search, link, viral, link, visitor, surf, blast, ping, feed, alert, tweet, find, status, and vote to name a few. But here are 11 favorites:

Stumble

Was: To lurch, walk unsteadily, or misstep. My favorite bar in college was the Stumble Inn.

And also now: To discover, recommend, and rate Web pages, photos, and videos on the personal recommendation engine StumbleUpon.

Troll

Was: To circulate or move around (verb); a supernatural creature who often has large ears, a foul smell, and is known to take up residency under municipal bridges in the seedier parts of town.

And now also: Someone who intentionally provokes others into an emotional tizzy or elicits heated response in various online forums or on social networks—and apparently gets off on it.

Bandwidth

Was: A data transmission rate; the maximum amount of information that can be transmitted along a channel.

And now also: The capacity of a person to handle tasks or issues, either actual or emotional.

Google

Was: An Internet search technology company and platform (noun).

And now also: To search the internet for information (the verb “google,” lower-case). Sometimes, the nickname for a nerdy know-it-all.

Mention

Was: To cite or make reference to (verb).

And now also: The act of citing or referencing a brand or individual on social platforms; an indicator of how many advocates and fans your product or service or a person has (noun). More is better. Of course.

Was: Used as a function word to indicate presence or occurrence in, on, or near (preposition).

And now also: The act of directing an online communication toward a particular person or brand, particularly on Facebook or Twitter. In this way, “at” has risen to a surprising position—it’s kind of the Rebecca Black of prepositions.

Stream (as a noun)

Was: A body of water with a current that’s confined within a bed.

And also now: A constantly flowing body of updates, photos, images, and other content on social networking sites like Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

Stream (as a verb)

Was: To extend, wave or float outward.

And also now: To continuously transport unedited data real-time—generally video or audio.

Spam

Was: Compressed mystery meat snugly sheathed in tin housing.

And also now: Unsolicited messages sent via email or, more recently, strewn about like litter on social networking sites.

Plus One

Was: A friend or date one brings along to an event or party.

And also now: A new initiative that allows anyone searching Google to publicly endorse web results they like. It’s a kind of digital shorthand for a thumbs-up.

Check-in

Was: The act of reporting your presence with a desk officiant—generally at airports and hotels.

And now also: The act of using any of several social location networks to tell everyone in your network where you are at every blessed moment of every single day, including churches, smoke shops, cafes, bars, restaurants, state parks, nursing homes, offices, dance halls, pizza shops, bakeries, dog groomers, train stops, bus stations, airports and so on and so forth,

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

That last post is copied and pasted from the net too

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Arghhhhhhhhh

Why label it at all, just enjoy it !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

met few males but only one true bull knew the true meaning , and have to say miss him , but too great a distance , so hard to find another ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pretty common in my EXPERIENCE.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its very common now , I often join in on couples when asked to , I find it realy enjoyable

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"How common actually is it?"

It's probably more common where the cuck doesn't know.

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By *itasfookMan
over a year ago

wainfleet

And please, i'm not being nasty , just rather ignorant ( in a nice way!) "

For me it’s seeing my wife with another man and cleaning up after. It’s for me feeling a beta male it’s not just sexually either as I like being beta away from sex if that makes sense.

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By *itty HoodooCouple
over a year ago

Stockport

"How common actually is it?

It's probably more common where the cuck doesn't know."

Exactly that. Couple profiles looking for couples, men, women etc yet 50 verifications from only men and only the Mrs writes or responds to messages. Yet THEY both love their experiences. Guy must be locked and chained up in the basement. Even worse the guys who do meet think they’re gods gift Fucking a Hotwife. Sorry mate you didn’t decide this and you didn’t dominate him. SHE DID, you’re as much a Cuckold as he is just treated better. For just now

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