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"Absolutely nothing wrong with that! I always meet socially first to see if we click. Happy to play if we get on - but I don't guarantee it. Even after chatting you're not sure til you meet someone. Anyone who says otherwise - just pass them by " Exactly | |||
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"I always have a Social meet first. I don't expect anyone to 'take me out' though x " | |||
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"any comments" fuck that..I just wanna fuck the fanny n say hi n bye later | |||
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"any comments" To expect to be taken out yes if you mean they must pay(not sure if this is what you ment) To do a social meet before fun then no its not wrong | |||
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"The OP means just a social. There's no expectation to be taken out." And you know that how ? Social first for me but paying my way | |||
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"Because she PM'd me." Cool, it may be better if she clarified what she means on here for everyone to see though | |||
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"Yep, but I didn't feel like watching the thread go by without saying anything...some OPs don't bother to come back and explain what they say in PM's" Thing is and I'm not trying to nit pick but we only have your say that she Pmd you. Sometimes I understand posts don't come out the way we mean them to and then run the wrath of things going downhill very quickly. If the Op was to clarify what she means then the thread would stay on track. Mind that would be a first on here. Anyone fancy a biscuit | |||
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"Yep, but I didn't feel like watching the thread go by without saying anything...some OPs don't bother to come back and explain what they say in PM's" But if they've started a discussion and asked for opinions they usually come back to see how it's going ... otherwise, what's the point of asking? | |||
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"any comments" I insist on a social meet first and if guys dont like it then its tough and i move onto the next lol | |||
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"Yep, but I didn't feel like watching the thread go by without saying anything...some OPs don't bother to come back and explain what they say in PM's" Then maybe they should as it might save people time typing if they have all the information. | |||
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"Yep, but I didn't feel like watching the thread go by without saying anything...some OPs don't bother to come back and explain what they say in PM's" Then they must take the rough with the smooth. If you ask for comment from a wider audience but interact in private with only a few you can't expect people to know the full story. | |||
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"Yep, but I didn't feel like watching the thread go by without saying anything...some OPs don't bother to come back and explain what they say in PM's But if they've started a discussion and asked for opinions they usually come back to see how it's going ... otherwise, what's the point of asking? " It's usually because nobody agrees with what they've said...I'm waiting for the white knights to latch onto this one... | |||
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"any comments" Do you mean taken out as in like a date and all paid for? Or meet socially for a drink or coffee before deciding to carry on? My answer would be different depending on which one. | |||
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"any comments I insist on a social meet first and if guys dont like it then its tough and i move onto the next lol " | |||
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"any comments Do you mean taken out as in like a date and all paid for? Or meet socially for a drink or coffee before deciding to carry on? My answer would be different depending on which one." I read (wrongly maybe) being taken on date and wined and dined by a George Cluny type, reading the profile.... | |||
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"I always meet for social first. Usually just a coffee and I don't always pay for the coffee! But I would, I can and I have paid for my own coffee. But you can use the site as you like. If you want to be wined and dined before you'll play that's your choice. Just as it's the choice of whoever you approach to think that's not ok and decline and possibly even suggest you're out for some kind of reciprocation for playing. That may not be your intention but it is easy to see how others might think it was." | |||
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"It's not wrong to want a social meet but it is wrong to expext everyone to play this game to your rules. If someone doesn't want to meet socially don't get ardent about it just move on to someone who does. When I met I rarely met anyone for a social because I just wanted sex. " I wouldn't meet someone just for a social, I like to meet socially first them play if we get on but I see no point in meeting someone, liking each other, both wanting to play but going home to arrange that another time, makes no sense at all to me that | |||
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"I always have a Social meet first. I don't expect anyone to 'take me out' though x " | |||
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"It's not wrong to want a social meet but it is wrong to expext everyone to play this game to your rules. If someone doesn't want to meet socially don't get ardent about it just move on to someone who does. When I met I rarely met anyone for a social because I just wanted sex. I wouldn't meet someone just for a social, I like to meet socially first them play if we get on but I see no point in meeting someone, liking each other, both wanting to play but going home to arrange that another time, makes no sense at all to me that" That's the thing you see, we all do things our own way and what we feel comfortable doing. I think it also depends how well you have got to know them before the social | |||
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"It's not wrong to want a social meet but it is wrong to expext everyone to play this game to your rules. If someone doesn't want to meet socially don't get ardent about it just move on to someone who does. When I met I rarely met anyone for a social because I just wanted sex. I wouldn't meet someone just for a social, I like to meet socially first them play if we get on but I see no point in meeting someone, liking each other, both wanting to play but going home to arrange that another time, makes no sense at all to me that That's the thing you see, we all do things our own way and what we feel comfortable doing. I think it also depends how well you have got to know them before the social " of course, I wouldn't play with anyone I met unless I wanted to, I don't do obligated sex, but if we are both horny and like each other I want a shag now not next Tuesday | |||
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"Absolutely nothing wrong with that! I always meet socially first to see if we click. Happy to play if we get on - but I don't guarantee it. Even after chatting you're not sure til you meet someone. Anyone who says otherwise - just pass them by " Couldn't agree more ... I have had quite a few socials which have remained just that ... lovely individuals but really not for me ... really depends if you are just after a quick fuck or a bit more interaction !!!! | |||
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"I've not got a problem with a social meet first. My only queries would be regarding the suitability of me being dressed at that time, location and whether they happy to be seen out with a tranny. Otherwise, it wouldn't bother me " Had this recently and I honestly didn't know what to say without sounding offensive or saying the wrong thing! | |||
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" Had this recently and I honestly didn't know what to say without sounding offensive or saying the wrong thing! " It can be tricky. On one hand, some girlys dress 24/7 and go anywhere and everywhere and don't see any limits. Others are that shy that they only dress at home behind locked doors, closed curtains, raised drawbridge.... I'd much rather someone be honest | |||
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"iam not after a quick fuck i am a person who expects to be treated like one first but if we get on then all hell could break loose x" If you clarify what you expect out of a first meeting we may be able to answer without having to guess | |||
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"iam not after a quick fuck i am a person who expects to be treated like one first but if we get on then all hell could break loose x" treated like one what? | |||
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"a lady" So by that you mean wined and dined before you will decide to play? | |||
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"a lady" I was thinking of a different word, but the people I was thinking of normally guarantee good sex on a first meeting without being wined and dined | |||
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"a lady" I think we all (male and female) like to be treated with respect. | |||
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"a lady" I see and what would you call those of us who don't expect what you do? Being a lady is about a great deal more than fine dining and nice hotel rooms. | |||
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"a lady I see and what would you call those of us who don't expect what you do? Being a lady is about a great deal more than fine dining and nice hotel rooms." | |||
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"I don't see what the big deal is regarding who pays what. I've been out for dinner a few times and not paid a penny because they have insisted they pay. I've also paid half, and paid the full bill a few times before. Its all down to each individual and who they meet x " But you are not forcing that expectation | |||
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"I don't see what the big deal isI. regarding who pays what. I've been out for dinner a few times and not paid a penny because they have insisted they pay. I've also paid half, and paid the full bill a few times before. Its all down to each individual and who they meet x " I think the difference is expectation. iWouldn't expect someone to pay for everything but unwound accept if they insisted. Some on here expect guys to jump through expensive hoops and what's worse is some mugs do it!! | |||
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"I don't see what the big deal is regarding who pays what. I've been out for dinner a few times and not paid a penny because they have insisted they pay. I've also paid half, and paid the full bill a few times before. Its all down to each individual and who they meet x But you are not forcing that expectation" Nobody is | |||
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"Perhaps the OP should apply to go on "Come dine with me"... might be more fulfilling.... Cake anyone?" Someone mention cake? | |||
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"Perhaps the OP should apply to go on "Come dine with me"... might be more fulfilling.... Cake anyone? Someone mention cake? " Yes and you are buying for all the ladies | |||
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"Perhaps the OP should apply to go on "Come dine with me"... might be more fulfilling.... Cake anyone? Someone mention cake? Yes and you are buying for all the ladies " That'll be a cheap round! *runs and hides in cake shop!! | |||
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"Perhaps the OP should apply to go on "Come dine with me"... might be more fulfilling.... Cake anyone? Someone mention cake? Yes and you are buying for all the ladies That'll be a cheap round! *runs and hides in cake shop!! " Can I have Carrot cake. I'm on a diet | |||
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"socials are great, as it gives you a sense of what they are like, if you can actually hold a convo without looking at your watch. As i'd feel like i was getting used by a couple. It should be about all parties getting what they want, often on here i've found some couples want me to forfill a fantasy and then asked to leave, which really makes a girl feel wanted lol. When a social is going great is pressure is removed and then you can just say "I'm going to the loo, so if you don't wanna take it further then thats the time to leave" It's alot better than having a couple on your sofa and find the male thinking he can just jump right it." The asked to leave after fulfilling the fantasy bit just sounds totally ignorant. | |||
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"iam not after a quick fuck i am a person who expects to be treated like one first but if we get on then all hell could break loose x" So you expect them to pay for meal etc | |||
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" The asked to leave after fulfilling the fantasy bit just sounds totally ignorant." alot of couples on here, act like single fems are hookers and then moan when i don't wanna be part of a roleplay fantasy. Even in a couple i wouldn't expect a shag. I like to chat at the bar and see what happens, even if it's talking and then exchanging numbers. But sadly it;s one of the main reasons i've found myself sticking with people i knows as i know i'd get treated right.I've got to the stage where i know what i want and want to avoid. As i know it would wreak my head. The good people stand out a mile and the worse just keep on moaning about not finding a meet. I have the _iew alot is down to the male pushing his wife to go bi. If a women is interested in being bi, then she asks friends first and then try girl/girl to see if see likes it before doing a 3sum | |||
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"I have had great social meets over a cup of coffee (average cost £2:50) with guys I have decided I don't want to play with. When it's just a cup of coffee there are no hard feelings over the price of it no matter who pays. And if he was all he claimed in his profile and was pleasant but I simply didn't feel any lust then he'll get a verification too. I have had guys offer to take me for a meal even when I've stressed that coffee is fine and it rarely works. If you have a great time but don't feel the lust then they can be miffed. And just as bad is being stuck in a restaurant for an hour or so with someone who you can't maintain a conversation or are downright uncomfortable with! So if they keep asking to take me to dinner I say coffee first and if we get on then you can feed me once we've worked up an appetite. But it does bother me that some guys think they have to do this - it's a swinging site not a dating site! " Very true, I think you can decide with a chat with a coffee or glass of wine whether you fancy working up and appetite with someone | |||
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" The asked to leave after fulfilling the fantasy bit just sounds totally ignorant. alot of couples on here, act like single fems are hookers and then moan when i don't wanna be part of a roleplay fantasy. Even in a couple i wouldn't expect a shag. I like to chat at the bar and see what happens, even if it's talking and then exchanging numbers. But sadly it;s one of the main reasons i've found myself sticking with people i knows as i know i'd get treated right.I've got to the stage where i know what i want and want to avoid. As i know it would wreak my head. The good people stand out a mile and the worse just keep on moaning about not finding a meet. I have the _iew alot is down to the male pushing his wife to go bi. If a women is interested in being bi, then she asks friends first and then try girl/girl to see if see likes it before doing a 3sum " It is often down to the guy wanting his wife to do the bi thing. Talking to a lot of women over the years most women's fantasy is having 2 men | |||
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"I can understand those who insist on a social but would think both parties would at the very least offer to split the bill seeing as it's for the benefit of both...although I'd offer to split the bill on a date too" That is quite normal when dating someone these days, so why some should think it should be different in terms of swinging I don't know??? | |||
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"Just popped in to see how the thread went Now popping quickly back out with a "no further comment to make"" while actually commenting | |||
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"It's wrong to expect it but you can state it as a preference " I would but the people who can't be bothered to take a few minutes to read my profile are then clearly the ones i should avoid. Thoses who show respect get respect in return | |||
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"It's wrong to expect it but you can state it as a preference I would but the people who can't be bothered to take a few minutes to read my profile are then clearly the ones i should avoid. " This will be the profile you've hidden | |||
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" This will be the profile you've hidden " Yes, have it hidden at the moment, as just don't really the time and baby sitters disappear as the days move closure to the hols. Another little pain is when i remove the hidden people i don't know message me, I'm assuming they have added me to their hotlist, which does my head in at times as i'd prefer a wink or poak in the right place | |||
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"I have wining and dining as a preference. I enjoy dating but not relationships. I don't meet many 'new' people tho." dito, i think after a while you want something more and thats when friendships become important. I don't think i could do the whole run around with messages and then be let down by then wanting something different. I don't mind being introduced to other couples,fem,males via friends, as cuts out the bs factor | |||
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"It's wrong to expect it but you can state it as a preference I would but the people who can't be bothered to take a few minutes to read my profile are then clearly the ones i should avoid. Thoses who show respect get respect in return" Think there's been confusion about what I was posting about...I was posting about the OP which is why I hadn't quoted anyone! However...if you've put something on your profile and it has clearly been ignored by the person messaging simply hit 'delete'. You can't expect someone to know something that hasn't been made clear, but if they are clearly ignoring something you have stated you would want/not want then they aren't showing respect and so yes, I would avoid them. | |||
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"I don't see what the big deal is regarding who pays what. I've been out for dinner a few times and not paid a penny because they have insisted they pay. I've also paid half, and paid the full bill a few times before. Its all down to each individual and who they meet x " | |||
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"I don't see what the big deal is regarding who pays what. I've been out for dinner a few times and not paid a penny because they have insisted they pay. I've also paid half, and paid the full bill a few times before. Its all down to each individual and who they meet x " It is and even if you expect to be paid for it is still down to the individual who is meeting you to decide if that is acceptable to them. I'm not keen on the idea that the criteria for being treated like a lady is being wined and dined. | |||
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"I'm not keen on the idea that the criteria for being treated like a lady is being wined and dined." Respect comes in many forms. I'd also not like to feel like I 'owed' him something because he'd taken me out...or have to worry about the reaction of a guy who'd paid for an expensive meal and didn't like being told 'no' afterwards. I'm sure most men would just be a bit miffed but a small few might not leave it at that | |||
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"Can i clarify my last post i get the impression the o p expects to be paid for no chance i hardly did that for ex wife Equality in my eyes means same rules or should be same for everyone. When i have met folk if not at either of our houses i willingly will pay for a brew etc but unless i am on a promise thats it " Agree coffee meet should be all that's needed for a social, OP sounds like she wants men to pay for dates | |||
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"no not at all the whole post is going the wrong way i was saying i dont want guys just to cum for sex and go i know its a swinging site but i need to feel like a person not just a peace of meat to be fucked and left" not many women do, but as I have said lots of times people will only treat you how you allow them to treat you. We insist on meeting socially first sometimes more than once and of that isn't how someone wants to do it we absolutely respect their wishes and move on. We have never had any problem with both men and couples meeting socially and as I said up thread a bit have spent some very pleasant evenings over dinner with the promise of more to come later but we make it a rule to never, ever play on a first meeting. What I am saying in a long winded way is set your rules, make them clear and stick by them. But I have to say your first couple of posts did come across as if you expected to be wined and dined at someone elses expense | |||
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"Yep, but I didn't feel like watching the thread go by without saying anything...some OPs don't bother to come back and explain what they say in PM's" Then maybe she wasn't that interested in the comments after all..... either way..ANY expectations from either party at ANY time is foolish, and shows a massive lack of communication, I would be wary of couples insisting on meeting singles this way! | |||
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"no not at all the whole post is going the wrong way i was saying i dont want guys just to cum for sex and go i know its a swinging site but i need to feel like a person not just a peace of meat to be fucked and left" Your OP didn't come across that way unfortunately. If you'd said this at the start the thread would have gone very differently. x | |||
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"I dont really like stand alone socials - I dont have the time - means two meets per guy ! Lol ! I also dont like guys spending a lot of money on me x I like a quick drink in a bar then fun or a cheap bottle of red at mine sometimes one quick drink can turn into a few if the banter is good and I always pay for a round then ) xx " You sound like a party girl to me sweetheart! | |||
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