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Footballers are doing it. So why not swingers?

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By *iPeople OP   Man
over a year ago

London

I'm talking of dealing with the homophobia in both communities!

Look, I love the randyness of the folks on this site and I've met some really nice folk too! This includes several guys who are happy to play but dont want any evidence left because the women on here - they say - are homophobic.

I'm intrigued.

Is this fear reasonable? Are bi friendly men less appealing to many women? Or just some?

And do any women fancy bi friendly men more completely straight ones?

There's loads of research that shows that in private at least most people are more flexible on sexuality than they say - goes way back to Kinseys in the 50s. And certainly there are loads of women on here who play with women. But much fewer men..apparently.

Statistically thats not likely to be true.

So... why this fear and shame? On a swingers site too?!

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

People on this site are treated equally, we are all welcome.

We just don't all want to have sex with each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know lots of 'straight' men who prefer to say they are straight rather than deal with people's negativity.

Personally, it doesn't matter to me whether a guy is straight or bi. My husband states that he's straight - and is - so as long as they abide by our rules (and they do), it's not a problem.

It's sad, though, that in this day and age there's still negativity.

Each to their own, I say.

Mrs Bling

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

according to the straight men who want to fuck me, they are bi or bi curious, but have to put straight on their profiles, or they get less interest from women, probably because of STI, HIV. worries. ignorance is rife

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm talking of dealing with the homophobia in both communities!

Look, I love the randyness of the folks on this site and I've met some really nice folk too! This includes several guys who are happy to play but dont want any evidence left because the women on here - they say - are homophobic.

I'm intrigued.

Is this fear reasonable? Are bi friendly men less appealing to many women? Or just some?

And do any women fancy bi friendly men more completely straight ones?

There's loads of research that shows that in private at least most people are more flexible on sexuality than they say - goes way back to Kinseys in the 50s. And certainly there are loads of women on here who play with women. But much fewer men..apparently.

Statistically thats not likely to be true.

So... why this fear and shame? On a swingers site too?!

"

Many won't say it but some see gay/bi guys as more promiscuous and more likley to have an std or be hiv positive. It may or may not be true but I can see the logic to an extent.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I don't worry about anyone's sexuality on here.

I have seen it said on here, and agree to an extent, that anyone who thinks that swingers are less prejudiced than other interest groups is being naïve. Swingers are people, and show the exact same prejudices as other people do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

as far as we are concerned why should anyone be that bothered about anyones sexuality, two years ago i was die hard straight, but Phil introduced me to swinging and it was amazing and we have stuck to it, i have played with women on soooooo many occasions and i enjoy it, so what if a man enjoys some play with another man it makes no odds to me or phil, if people want to play straight then thats fine too, but i honestly think the stigma's of sexuality need to be dropped its an old fashioned notion that really in essence has no place in todays society

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

I'm not homophobic. One of my best mates is a gay guy. He's the same as me tho, he says it makes him cringe a bit seeing a bloke and a woman together. I'm the same with 2 guys. I'm glad everyone has fun with whoever they want, I just don't wanna see it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've found that a some of the single women aged 40 plus can be homophobic towards hi women. Especially in the chat rooms, I've stopped going in and started posting more on the forums.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've found that a some of the single women aged 40 plus can be homophobic towards hi women. Especially in the chat rooms, I've stopped going in and started posting more on the forums. "

I'm okay then as got two more years lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it fair to say someone is homophobic because they prefer not to engage in sexual activity with someone that does engage in homosexual activity. Seems to me a matter of preference and taste. They may be perfectly fine that a man is bi and likes men but just choose not to play with them sexually. Might just be a personal sexual turnoff not homophobia.

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By *iPeople OP   Man
over a year ago

London

Great posts folks and nice tone too. Learning a lot so pls keep em coming!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would swing with a bi guy, but probably not a relationship with one. In my experience, all the men who ive known come out as bi have gone fully gay within 12 months.

Its a much bigger deal for a guy to come out as bi as the act of male to male intercourse is so much more intrusive than woman to woman.

If being bi for me meant I had to take it up the arse every time I was with a woman I would certainly worry about taking a dive into the act of sex with them.

I think if a man has been brave enough to try it and really enjoy sex with another man, there may be more to the story than just bisexuality.

I'm not saying men cannot want both, but I think it's definitely a bigger deal and takes a lot more getting used to for them.

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By *iPeople OP   Man
over a year ago

London


"Many won't say it but some see gay/bi guys as more promiscuous and more likley to have an std or be hiv positive. It may or may not be true but I can see the logic to an extent."

My hunch is you are right and there is evidence from the US that some STDs are more prevalent in the gay world than the straight world but also some the other way - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6893897

But young people are much more likely to have an STD than older people and i dont see much evidence of young straight men/women being rejected!

The complicating factor for swingers is that some men who say they are straight aren't so those who think that they are protecting themselves on this basis might want to reconsider.

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By *anther and gothic angelCouple
over a year ago

fairy land

I find bisexuality a complete turn off, both female and male.

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By *iPeople OP   Man
over a year ago

London


"Is it fair to say someone is homophobic because they prefer not to engage in sexual activity with someone that does engage in homosexual activity. "

Good question!

Here's another way to think about this.

Ms X finds Mr Y sexy. Then Ms X finds out Mr Y also likes man on man sex. He didnt lie, he just didnt declare it. Now she doesnt find him sexy any more. Is this taste, a natural reaction to not sharing everything (and does everyone share everything important?) or homophobia?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not homophobic, I just dont want to meet bi men. Sexually 2 men together doesn't gloat my boat at all. It doesn't mean I hate gay men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not homophobic, I just dont want to meet bi men. Sexually 2 men together doesn't gloat my boat at all. It doesn't mean I hate gay men"

This is same for me.. I don't see it as homophobic, no more than those seeking just white or just any colour are racist.. it's preference. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not homophobic, I just dont want to meet bi men. Sexually 2 men together doesn't gloat my boat at all. It doesn't mean I hate gay men

This is same for me.. I don't see it as homophobic, no more than those seeking just white or just any colour are racist.. it's preference. Xxx"

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