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"....... Be interesting to see some figures..." I doubt figures would be true. A lot of swingers/ wife-swappers won't admit it and plenty of folk who've not had a shag in years will claim membership of the lifestyle. | |||
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"% on here or say out of 6 regular married couples how many of those swing? " Really thinking about the wider population. | |||
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"Or in other words, are we unusual, odd or in a real minority and do non swingers see us as "dirty"? Be interesting to see some figures..." How would you get those figures?? And I don't think you'll fund many non swingers on here to tell you if you are dirty or not. | |||
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"Could be new questions added to the next cenus . Have you or your partner cheated ? Do you swing ? Thats the only way to get accurate figures lol " And how many would complete those questions honestly | |||
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"I'd tell the truth in a census if privacy was guaranteed. Me and hubby swing together. My main worry would be the kids finding out one day if information fell in the wrong hands " The form comes to the house not the person, so Hubby completing the form looks up at wife and say "honey question 97 asks have you ever cheated during our marriage, do I tick yes or no?" Also your children probably won't read it but your grandchildren could, they get released eventually, even old hand written ones are being digitised for gerontologist use, current ones are straight onto the computer. | |||
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"to say swinging couples would be looked down on, sweepingly, is a massive generalisation. there are, of course, people that will look down, but then, they would probably look down on anything that isnt the same as them. in modern times things are becoming more and more acceptable, so i dont think there is the stigma attached to many things now." I think that is a fair point, far more acceptable these days to see girl on girl even in high profile circumstances. Others may not accept it though mainly because they don't understand it. Or have the nerve to try it! | |||
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"Or in other words, are we unusual, odd or in a real minority and do non swingers see us as "dirty"? Be interesting to see some figures..." A lot don't swing they have affairs and then divorce . And some married couples play away but come together just for family and money .. I think people swing to add spice in there life if married and do the things they dream of as happy together .. You never know whats going on in peoples lifes even if happy and married , | |||
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"to say swinging couples would be looked down on, sweepingly, is a massive generalisation. there are, of course, people that will look down, but then, they would probably look down on anything that isnt the same as them. in modern times things are becoming more and more acceptable, so i dont think there is the stigma attached to many things now." it may be a 'sweeping generalisation' that some in society who would 'look down' whilst others will be less judgemental.. any daily hell 'journo' trawling these sites or sights will have a certain viewpoint and usually an agenda and there are other gutter rags that equally start harrumphing about the moral decline/end of civilised society bla bla whenever a story is published about swingers.. other more liberal folk will go 'so what' its a none story etc.. also think in these 'modern times' it does seem with some aspects many things are less acceptable.. there is still a massive rise in std's, teenage pregnancy etc and like it or not 'we' with this aspect of our lives will be an easy target for those who deem to judge and make the most ridiculous connections... | |||
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"to say swinging couples would be looked down on, sweepingly, is a massive generalisation. there are, of course, people that will look down, but then, they would probably look down on anything that isnt the same as them. in modern times things are becoming more and more acceptable, so i dont think there is the stigma attached to many things now. it may be a 'sweeping generalisation' that some in society who would 'look down' whilst others will be less judgemental.. any daily hell 'journo' trawling these sites or sights will have a certain viewpoint and usually an agenda and there are other gutter rags that equally start harrumphing about the moral decline/end of civilised society bla bla whenever a story is published about swingers.. other more liberal folk will go 'so what' its a none story etc.. also think in these 'modern times' it does seem with some aspects many things are less acceptable.. there is still a massive rise in std's, teenage pregnancy etc and like it or not 'we' with this aspect of our lives will be an easy target for those who deem to judge and make the most ridiculous connections... " would tend to think those that would probably look down on it are those that are hidden anyway. those that havent got the sort of relationshiup in which they can discuss things as reasonable, responsable adults and rather, if they want to do something, would do it behind the others backs. the 'old' concept of wife swapping was generically middle class parties with porsche or bmw keys thrown in a bowl. so it cant be snobbery. think the tabloid press have a lot to answer for, as does the jeremy kyle generation of persons (not specifically those on that show, but you can go back to the last 15 years of early morning 'embarrass yourself on tv' early morning shows. one question to all. why do you keep it a secret? is it because you KNOW people will look down on you, or is it because you percieve people will? for us, its the latter. we know people we know wont care, others will call it disgusting. some will be very very interested indeed lol | |||
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" would tend to think those that would probably look down on it are those that are hidden anyway. those that havent got the sort of relationshiup in which they can discuss things as reasonable, responsable adults and rather, if they want to do something, would do it behind the others backs. the 'old' concept of wife swapping was generically middle class parties with porsche or bmw keys thrown in a bowl. so it cant be snobbery. think the tabloid press have a lot to answer for, as does the jeremy kyle generation of persons (not specifically those on that show, but you can go back to the last 15 years of early morning 'embarrass yourself on tv' early morning shows. one question to all. why do you keep it a secret? is it because you KNOW people will look down on you, or is it because you percieve people will? for us, its the latter. we know people we know wont care, others will call it disgusting. some will be very very interested indeed lol" largely agree.. as to 'why not'.. for us its what possible effect it would have on our loved ones.. pretty thick skin personally etc but you just know that some for whatever reasons would use that information against ones family.. | |||
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" would tend to think those that would probably look down on it are those that are hidden anyway. those that havent got the sort of relationshiup in which they can discuss things as reasonable, responsable adults and rather, if they want to do something, would do it behind the others backs. the 'old' concept of wife swapping was generically middle class parties with porsche or bmw keys thrown in a bowl. so it cant be snobbery. think the tabloid press have a lot to answer for, as does the jeremy kyle generation of persons (not specifically those on that show, but you can go back to the last 15 years of early morning 'embarrass yourself on tv' early morning shows. one question to all. why do you keep it a secret? is it because you KNOW people will look down on you, or is it because you percieve people will? for us, its the latter. we know people we know wont care, others will call it disgusting. some will be very very interested indeed lol largely agree.. as to 'why not'.. for us its what possible effect it would have on our loved ones.. pretty thick skin personally etc but you just know that some for whatever reasons would use that information against ones family.. " We would agree with that. Couldn't care less what neighbours or friends think, in fact sometimes you just want to tell them to see the reaction. However we both have elderly parents and kids and it is for their sake that we keep our lifestyle private. | |||
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