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"It seems to me that most men can enjoy anonymous casual sex whereas most women won't, just look at the dating sites where there's no casual sex on offer, they get a ratio of men to women of probably 50-50. I might be wrong but i think most women want to get to know the person first and to feel an attraction before sex, whereas this isn't a critical requirement for most men to have sex. Just my opinion." Spot on fella | |||
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"It seems to me that most men can enjoy anonymous casual sex whereas most women won't, just look at the dating sites where there's no casual sex on offer, they get a ratio of men to women of probably 50-50. I might be wrong but i think most women want to get to know the person first and to feel an attraction before sex, whereas this isn't a critical requirement for most men to have sex. Just my opinion." The fact that many conventional dating sites are also used for instashag, you'd be wrong with the 1-1 ratio. | |||
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"Has anyone tried to work out the ratio of horny men to women, just go to a chatroom and count how many men to women ... prob 10 to 1 .. so why the differnce " my honest answer is because there's more men willing to cheat on their wife's than women on their men, or maybe men have more time and opportunity than women to cheat that's not a bash on cheating by the way I just do think that's why there are more men than women on here | |||
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"The ratio of "real" women who meet single guys (including MF couples) might well be up there around 20/1. The reasons ? well casual sex appeals to men more than it does to the "majority" of women and that just comes down to the instinct to nest vs the instinct to spread ones seed. Obviously that doesnt apply to everyone but clearly the majority. Casual sex sites just flat out appeal to men more than women on the whole is the long and short of it. Its also quite fucking tedious being a female on here or a MF couple who meet guys, all those clueless cant be arsed to read your profile /interact with you/respect you have a partner messages are enough to turn anyone off this site. " +1 Also alot of guys seam to think its there god given right to fuck who they want. Some guys from what other couples have told me are very disrespectfull and downright rude. Which can help the case for genuine guys | |||
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"Its a natural male thing to want multiple sexual partners, the desire to spread our seed far and wide harks back to our animal days. We've moved on somewhat since then and came to realise that long term companionship and raising children in a loving relationship is a better way to ensure the survival of our genes, but the desire to have sex with many women still burns strong. That's why you have so many guys on here compared to women, because guys are pre-programmed to want lots of women, naturally this is going to lead to competition, and of course women are only going to want the ones who stand out from the crowd and prove themselves." I've never looked at it like that, but you're right FAB does have a survival of the fittest thing going on and plays to our natural instincts. | |||
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"Using the chat rooms as an example watching men desperately wanking on case someone watches them does absolutely nothing for me so I avoid them Women and men get turned on (usually) by different things so you will get less women on chat " Exactly I was on the other night just talking to another forumite and the desperation of some men for me to watch them was a complete turn off if I had indeed been on there for that! | |||
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" Exactly I was on the other night just talking to another forumite and the desperation of some men for me to watch them was a complete turn off if I had indeed been on there for that! " The saddest thing ive ever seen is going into any chatroom and the swarms of guys begging any female to watch them "cum" or wank on cam. "do you watch cams???" "please please please watch me cum" "(name) come watch me cum for you" ugh, its reason enough not to go onto them. | |||
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"The ratio of "real" women who meet single guys (including MF couples) might well be up there around 20/1. The reasons ? well casual sex appeals to men more than it does to the "majority" of women and that just comes down to the instinct to nest vs the instinct to spread ones seed. Obviously that doesnt apply to everyone but clearly the majority. Casual sex sites just flat out appeal to men more than women on the whole is the long and short of it. Its also quite fucking tedious being a female on here or a MF couple who meet guys, all those clueless cant be arsed to read your profile /interact with you/respect you have a partner messages are enough to turn anyone off this site. " | |||
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" Its also quite fucking tedious being a female on here or a MF couple who meet guys, all those clueless cant be arsed to read your profile /interact with you/respect you have a partner messages are enough to turn anyone off this site. " And yet, whenever I suggest splitting single males into two categories - regular and established - its met with utter rejection. | |||
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"It seems to me that most men can enjoy anonymous casual sex whereas most women won't, just look at the dating sites where there's no casual sex on offer, they get a ratio of men to women of probably 50-50. I might be wrong but i think most women want to get to know the person first and to feel an attraction before sex, whereas this isn't a critical requirement for most men to have sex. Just my opinion." | |||
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" Exactly I was on the other night just talking to another forumite and the desperation of some men for me to watch them was a complete turn off if I had indeed been on there for that! The saddest thing ive ever seen is going into any chatroom and the swarms of guys begging any female to watch them "cum" or wank on cam. "do you watch cams???" "please please please watch me cum" "(name) come watch me cum for you" ugh, its reason enough not to go onto them. " I've tried wanking on cam in here once, having laboriously set up my camera, I saw it as a good way to "advertise the goods" so to speak, there were plenty of women in the room so I thought "here goes" I got quite a few compliments on the chat bar, unfortunately tho for me they were all from the males! I concluded from it that men go in the room to scan for any & every titillation going but women go in to chat with specific people who "do it" for em. | |||
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"woman are just has horny id say, they just don't promote it like men do in the rooms. also if like myself there horny for pussy t like the men and theres not enough to go round" I don't doubt for one minute that women on here are just as horny as the men, but what about the women that are NOT on here? Are they just as horny? If they are, why aren't they here? | |||
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"I've tried wanking on cam in here once, having laboriously set up my camera, I saw it as a good way to "advertise the goods" so to speak, there were plenty of women in the room so I thought "here goes" I got quite a few compliments on the chat bar, unfortunately tho for me they were all from the males! I concluded from it that men go in the room to scan for any & every titillation going but women go in to chat with specific people who "do it" for em. " Lol i could've told you that would happen mate. Unfortunately for us straight guys there is a large amount of bi guys on here, whether they admit to being bi or not, and they are the ones your cock pics or cam will attract, not really women, who i agree go into chat to speak to those who "do it" for them. | |||
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"Every time I log on to fab and its shows the total amount of users online ....I'm thinking ..." Yep around 8'500 of those are guys " " Haha spot on | |||
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"There are as many women shagging as men (there has to be else the human race would have gone yonks ago). I just think that its taking time for women to be accepted as sexually liberated people, and there is still stigma attached to women having multiple partners. It's getting better though, but very slowly." The ratio holds true for more normal dating sites too. Women are less inclined to go online in the pursuit of sex/ relationships than for shopping or socialising. One of the main reasons is that when they do decide to try one out that they are virtually overwhelmed. And the first guys to make contact are usually the muppets, which just turns them off completely! | |||
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"It seems to me that most men can enjoy anonymous casual sex whereas most women won't, just look at the dating sites where there's no casual sex on offer, they get a ratio of men to women of probably 50-50. I might be wrong but i think most women want to get to know the person first and to feel an attraction before sex, whereas this isn't a critical requirement for most men to have sex. Just my opinion. Spot on fella " +1 | |||
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"woman are just has horny id say, they just don't promote it like men do in the rooms. also if like myself there horny for pussy t like the men and theres not enough to go round I don't doubt for one minute that women on here are just as horny as the men, but what about the women that are NOT on here? Are they just as horny? If they are, why aren't they here?" Sure they are just as horny but they can pick up a willing man anywhere really. Also most probably think of swinging as a couples thing. when i was single it would have never occured to me to look for a fb on a swinger site or any site really. I could just go to a bar and surely i could find someone that night if i wanted. I never really did that as i like to get to know someone first (which still holds true in swinging now btw) but the option was there. | |||
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" Exactly I was on the other night just talking to another forumite and the desperation of some men for me to watch them was a complete turn off if I had indeed been on there for that! The saddest thing ive ever seen is going into any chatroom and the swarms of guys begging any female to watch them "cum" or wank on cam. "do you watch cams???" "please please please watch me cum" "(name) come watch me cum for you" ugh, its reason enough not to go onto them. " I become a repeater - no I don't watch cams | |||
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"So, this site is nature at work. Thousands of men and few hundred women and the women get to choose whose spunk they want ... Simples .." I don't agree, i don't feel this site is nature at work, far from it. If you look at dating sites where the numbers are more equal, men too can be highly selective of who they give their spunk to, so its nothing to do with gender its who has the numbers to choose from. It could be men, it could be women, it just depends on the website and the balance of its membership. So i'm sorry mate, in my opinion your theory doesn't stack up. | |||
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"Sure they are just as horny but they can pick up a willing man anywhere really. Also most probably think of swinging as a couples thing. when i was single it would have never occured to me to look for a fb on a swinger site or any site really. I could just go to a bar and surely i could find someone that night if i wanted. I never really did that as i like to get to know someone first (which still holds true in swinging now btw) but the option was there." I think your proving my point with your last statement, "I could just go to a bar and surely i could find someone that night if i wanted. I never really did that as i like to get to know someone first" To me that statement is getting more towards the real reason why there are so few women on here compared to men. | |||
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"Sure they are just as horny but they can pick up a willing man anywhere really. Also most probably think of swinging as a couples thing. when i was single it would have never occured to me to look for a fb on a swinger site or any site really. I could just go to a bar and surely i could find someone that night if i wanted. I never really did that as i like to get to know someone first (which still holds true in swinging now btw) but the option was there. I think your proving my point with your last statement, "I could just go to a bar and surely i could find someone that night if i wanted. I never really did that as i like to get to know someone first" To me that statement is getting more towards the real reason why there are so few women on here compared to men." Then i am agreeing with you lol men make themselves more available everywhere and are open with their wants and desires where most women are a little more discreet. At least publicly because if you heard how my girlfriends talked when it is just us you'd know we are just like men. | |||
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"Then i am agreeing with you lol men make themselves more available everywhere and are open with their wants and desires where most women are a little more discreet. At least publicly because if you heard how my girlfriends talked when it is just us you'd know we are just like men." Lol despite your girlfriends talk, i still believe most men could walk into a bar alone, see a woman they like the look of and gladly take them somewhere for sex without even knowing their name. I believe this would be difficult for most women to do. | |||
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" Its also quite fucking tedious being a female on here or a MF couple who meet guys, all those clueless cant be arsed to read your profile /interact with you/respect you have a partner messages are enough to turn anyone off this site. And yet, whenever I suggest splitting single males into two categories - regular and established - its met with utter rejection." Because this scene is 'inclusive' - not 'exclusive' ! Creating any hierarchy would penalise genuinely nice, respectful and reasonable new members. And who chooses who fits which category? 'Established' members can be as big a pain in the arse as newbies. The expectancies are different - rather than a perception of 'instashag' it can be found that some expect others to jump through a million hoops before conversation is engaged in, let alone meets. The system works fine for those that use it correctly. Those that don't interact in a positive way will rightly be ignored - and will soon become UNLOS or join the block list of most. | |||
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"I have a real problem with a lot of the statements women are making on this thread accusing men of this and that, but thats not the point. We're all here because we're all horny people who like casual sex, and there may well be a lot of horny women here on fab, but there just aren't many and this to me is the real question, why so few? Its ok going on about mens attitudes but this is a free site and any woman anywhere can join, so if women are as horny as men, why aren't women joining in the same numbers as men? This is the real question " Why so few? Try reading, there are plenty of good theories on here. You're wrong about the numbers on dating sites being more equal. I was on a site where men paid and women were free. Even with the scammers, escorts, fakes (men posing as women), fakes (admin posing as women), there was still a huge ratio of men to women. Soooo it does look like nature is at play. | |||
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" Its also quite fucking tedious being a female on here or a MF couple who meet guys, all those clueless cant be arsed to read your profile /interact with you/respect you have a partner messages are enough to turn anyone off this site. And yet, whenever I suggest splitting single males into two categories - regular and established - its met with utter rejection. Because this scene is 'inclusive' - not 'exclusive' !" The sheer number of threads created each week on how many guys struggle to get meets on here renders that statement entirely false - a massive oversupply of single males competing against each other for a comparably tiny number of women and couples, exclusivity comes about on it own. " Creating any hierarchy would penalise genuinely nice, respectful and reasonable new members." Who won't be penalised for long as 'genuinely nice, respectful and reasonable new members' will likely be those who bother to create decent profiles, write good messages and make a proper attempt to succeed in swinging, and eventually be promoted to the 'established' category where they no longer get thrown in the same bucket with the 'wanna suck my big cock' crowd. "And who chooses who fits which category? 'Established' members can be as big a pain in the arse as newbies." And they can be blocked individually, just like newbies. "The expectancies are different - rather than a perception of 'instashag' it can be found that some expect others to jump through a million hoops before conversation is engaged in, let alone meets." Yep, hence why it would be good to have an 'established' category for those who have already jumped through those hoops. " The system works fine for those that use it correctly." So did bicycles before people realised that the car was a much faster, more convenient way to get about. And of course, its not just single males who would reap the benefits of more than one category for them - women and couples too would have a far greater degree of control over the amount of messages they receive, without entirely excluding some 80%+ of the site. Status updates saying 'sorry I've had to block single males, there's just too many of you' are far too common. | |||
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"Why so few? Try reading, there are plenty of good theories on here. You're wrong about the numbers on dating sites being more equal. I was on a site where men paid and women were free. Even with the scammers, escorts, fakes (men posing as women), fakes (admin posing as women), there was still a huge ratio of men to women. Soooo it does look like nature is at play." I have read all the messages on here thank you and there are conflicting views on this. I also have been on many dating sites and the ratio of women to men has always been more equal than it is on here. Finally this site is not a reflection of nature, how could it be? as in the real world nature has clearly determined that there are equal numbers of men and women around, so this site is not nature at play at all. All we see here is who is more attracted to the thought of anonymous casual sex most and by the overwhelming numbers of men to women on this site, it is clear to see which gender that is. | |||
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"There are as many women shagging as men (there has to be else the human race would have gone yonks ago). I just think that its taking time for women to be accepted as sexually liberated people, and there is still stigma attached to women having multiple partners. It's getting better though, but very slowly." "Women are as horny as men, just better at hiding their boners" x | |||
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"Why so few? Try reading, there are plenty of good theories on here. You're wrong about the numbers on dating sites being more equal. I was on a site where men paid and women were free. Even with the scammers, escorts, fakes (men posing as women), fakes (admin posing as women), there was still a huge ratio of men to women. Soooo it does look like nature is at play. I have read all the messages on here thank you and there are conflicting views on this. I also have been on many dating sites and the ratio of women to men has always been more equal than it is on here. Finally this site is not a reflection of nature, how could it be? as in the real world nature has clearly determined that there are equal numbers of men and women around, so this site is not nature at play at all. All we see here is who is more attracted to the thought of anonymous casual sex most and by the overwhelming numbers of men to women on this site, it is clear to see which gender that is." WRONG There are not equal numbers of men to women, look at (UK) statistics of male to female births (1.05 to 1). You may think that is a tiny ratio until you multiply it by thousands. If there were no other variables that would mean for an approx 49 million population there would be just over one million more males. Now there are variables so for an age spread of 15 - 64 the ratio reduces to 1.03 - 1. Which would mean for this demographic group, if the total was approx 32,500,000 the there would be approx half a million more males than females. There you go, there's the reason why there are MORE men on DATING sites, and MORE men on sites like FAB. | |||
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"There are not equal numbers of men to women, look at (UK) statistics of male to female births (1.05 to 1). You may think that is a tiny ratio until you multiply it by thousands. If there were no other variables that would mean for an approx 49 million population there would be just over one million more males. Now there are variables so for an age spread of 15 - 64 the ratio reduces to 1.03 - 1. Which would mean for this demographic group, if the total was approx 32,500,000 the there would be approx half a million more males than females. There you go, there's the reason why there are MORE men on DATING sites, and MORE men on sites like FAB." WTF How long did it take you to research all that? You must've been up all night lol and a ratio of 1.05 to 1 virtually proves i'm right afterall, even i didn't know it was that close Besides, after all that research you still haven't explained why there's so few women on FAB like the OP asked? Or maybe you're not prepared to admit the obvious | |||
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"Are we convincing ourselves that things would be any different/better if more females joined up ? Or are there those here that agree with me that the single males that are already successful, would simply become even more in demand ? After all, lots agree that its the men that want/expect an instant shag. The females tend to be happy waiting with very few prepared to shag because they are so horny self control has deserted them. Lol Just a thought." | |||
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"There are not equal numbers of men to women, look at (UK) statistics of male to female births (1.05 to 1). You may think that is a tiny ratio until you multiply it by thousands. If there were no other variables that would mean for an approx 49 million population there would be just over one million more males. Now there are variables so for an age spread of 15 - 64 the ratio reduces to 1.03 - 1. Which would mean for this demographic group, if the total was approx 32,500,000 the there would be approx half a million more males than females. There you go, there's the reason why there are MORE men on DATING sites, and MORE men on sites like FAB. WTF How long did it take you to research all that? You must've been up all night lol and a ratio of 1.05 to 1 virtually proves i'm right afterall, even i didn't know it was that close Besides, after all that research you still haven't explained why there's so few women on FAB like the OP asked? Or maybe you're not prepared to admit the obvious" When you're talking in millions the ratio no longer appears tiny. Disproving your point IMHO. NATURE is the answer to why there are more men here than women. Also nurture. So you have the biological input of what our brains have us do (think hormones secreted). Being different genders we have different amounts of hormones secreted according to stimuli (experiences). Those experiences are influenced by our attitudes due to our socialisation processes of both past and present. Of course you'll probably discount this reason cos it doesn't suit you | |||
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" Its also quite fucking tedious being a female on here or a MF couple who meet guys, all those clueless cant be arsed to read your profile /interact with you/respect you have a partner messages are enough to turn anyone off this site. " | |||
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"The question the OP asked has been answered The ratio of men to women in chat rooms is because MOST men get turned on visually whilst MOST women get turned on mentally Wanking on cams in chat is therefore going to attract more bi/gay men than women usually I personally am put of the chat rooms for this very reason and I doubt I am unique " I agree with this 100% | |||
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"Using the chat rooms as an example watching men desperately wanking on case someone watches them does absolutely nothing for me so I avoid them Women and men get turned on (usually) by different things so you will get less women on chat Exactly I was on the other night just talking to another forumite and the desperation of some men for me to watch them was a complete turn off if I had indeed been on there for that! " and you see the same sentence from a dozen or so posters: huge cock on cam hung stud on cam im hard for you (said to 4 different people) watch me cum your making me hard and so on and so forth | |||
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"I have a real problem with a lot of the statements women are making on this thread accusing men of this and that, but thats not the point. We're all here because we're all horny people who like casual sex, and there may well be a lot of horny women here on fab, but there just aren't many and this to me is the real question, why so few? Its ok going on about mens attitudes but this is a free site and any woman anywhere can join, so if women are as horny as men, why aren't women joining in the same numbers as men? This is the real question " because if a woman wanted casual sex she could generally go to a club and pick someone up. if a man wanted it the nightclub scene is ultra competative, so the chances are slighter, plus, if they were to use the lines they use on here, the only thing they would be going home with would be a black eye | |||
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"So, this site is nature at work. Thousands of men and few hundred women and the women get to choose whose spunk they want ... Simples .. I don't agree, i don't feel this site is nature at work, far from it. If you look at dating sites where the numbers are more equal, men too can be highly selective of who they give their spunk to, so its nothing to do with gender its who has the numbers to choose from. It could be men, it could be women, it just depends on the website and the balance of its membership. So i'm sorry mate, in my opinion your theory doesn't stack up." it does if you stick with the theory that women are MORE selective than men, ie, must have more than a pulse lol | |||
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"it does if you stick with the theory that women are MORE selective than men, ie, must have more than a pulse lol" I don't agree. Women are more selective on here because the numbers are in their favour. If you go to some dating sites where the numbers of women are much greater then men too can be highly selective. So who is more selective has nothing to do with gender, its much more to do with supply and demand. | |||
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"because men will fuck anything....women are the ones that must say yes,,,,and they have thier pick. but men have to seek females to get it on with. women just wait, and take thier pick. " I agree that in general that is the case on here, but it isn't the case on most dating sites. As a single man i know i will get a boatload of offers from women on a dating site, so then i too can wait and take my pick only problem is, there's no sex on offer not on first meet anyway lol | |||
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"chatroom...count how many men to women ... prob 10 to 1 .. so why the differnce " Simple. The guys just like to talk about it. We're busy actually doing it. Janet | |||
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"Must be some reason no one has thought of yet " No the reasons have been accurately described IMO, the main one being many more men want casual sex than women. I know guys who used POF for casual sex, and they say a high percentage of women would say things like 'One word about sex and you're blocked I'm sick of it!!'. Can you imagine the majority of men saying the same if a fit, witty 36 yr old was offering them nsa sex? I think not. | |||
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"Must be some reason no one has thought of yet No the reasons have been accurately described IMO, the main one being many more men want casual sex than women. I know guys who used POF for casual sex, and they say a high percentage of women would say things like 'One word about sex and you're blocked I'm sick of it!!'. Can you imagine the majority of men saying the same if a fit, witty 36 yr old was offering them nsa sex? I think not. " When I used to use POF to swing I found that a large number of women, including those who genuinely had joined the site with an eye to dating and possibly a full relationship, were receptive to the idea of no strings sex providing the subject was broached in a gentle and considerate fashion. | |||
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