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"i guess its up to the individual to wrestle with their inner faith to detrmine if they can or they cant" This | |||
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"Can you have them both together? Me and my mates had a d*unken debate about this the other night and I'm wondering what everyone else thinks (: x" don't see why not:-most religions full of folk who interpret it to suit what they want to do,I'm sure some can twist it to make swinging seem like gods will! | |||
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"For those still daft enough to believe in religion ........ if it came to a genuine 100% no going back choice between your religion and swinging - which would you choose?" less of the daft enough, respect other people Onny, ur old enough and should know better, whether ur atheist ect whatever...dont call people daft(or stupid) for believing in something that U do not! and for the record I have no religious beliefs | |||
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"For those still daft enough to believe in religion ........ if it came to a genuine 100% no going back choice between your religion and swinging - which would you choose? less of the daft enough, respect other people Onny, ur old enough and should know better, whether ur atheist ect whatever...dont call people daft(or stupid) for believing in something that U do not! and for the record I have no religious beliefs " I reserve 'daft' for polite company. If you knew what I really call those who believe in non-existent sky fairies and who follow in the footsteps of those in fancy dress who condone and conceal child abusers in their midst - you might be quite shocked. | |||
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"Are there any vicars on here " There won't be any priests on here, we are all over legal age !!! lol | |||
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"For those still daft enough to believe in religion ........ if it came to a genuine 100% no going back choice between your religion and swinging - which would you choose?" there is absolutely no question that religion exists I see evidence of it in churches, mosques, temples etc, it's God that lots of people have a problem believing in I think | |||
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"For those still daft enough to believe in religion ........ if it came to a genuine 100% no going back choice between your religion and swinging - which would you choose? less of the daft enough, respect other people Onny, ur old enough and should know better, whether ur atheist ect whatever...dont call people daft(or stupid) for believing in something that U do not! and for the record I have no religious beliefs " | |||
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"there is absolutely no question that religion exists I see evidence of it in churches, mosques, temples etc, it's God that lots of people have a problem believing in I think" And OP - it would depend on what the particular 'religion' teaches, doesn't it. There was a cult in the USA (what a surprise!) which had the intriguing name of 'Hookers for Jesus'. ted. | |||
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"Are there any vicars on here There won't be any priests on here, we are all over legal age !!! lol" thats naughty that x | |||
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"Wow this has taken a nasty turn :S" I just say, have fun, do all you want and if the pearly gates exist, then we will know when we need to ! Enjoy life !!!!!!!! | |||
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"Wow this has taken a nasty turn :S" Yeah. You don't have to like something but there's no need for name-calling, ridiculing and so on. Considering the amount of grey areas in this lifestyle which are still debated in forums, I suggest people be aware of themselves. Just a thought. | |||
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"Are there any vicars on here There won't be any priests on here, we are all over legal age !!! lolthats naughty that x " Did have to bite my tongue for a little minute, but hey ho, life should be fun, too many grumpy people that take it all way too serious ! | |||
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"Well if there was only Adam and Eve, and they begat Cain and Abel, at least one of them was a motherfucker and humanity is based on ancestral incest. How swinging do you want to get?" I don't think swinging = inces t | |||
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"Are there any vicars on here There won't be any priests on here, we are all over legal age !!! lolthats naughty that x Did have to bite my tongue for a little minute, but hey ho, life should be fun, too many grumpy people that take it all way too serious !" say 3 our fathers an 2 hail marys before bed | |||
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"My cock resurrects a few times of a session " As long as it doesn't take 3 days! | |||
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"Can you have them both together? Me and my mates had a d*unken debate about this the other night and I'm wondering what everyone else thinks (: x" Look at my latest pics...does that answer your question lol! | |||
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"We can debate this as much as we like, surely the only opinion that counts is Gods. Many religeons of the past had prostitutes serving in the temples. So yes, you can have swinging and religion. Doesn't mean that god approves. " To me the only opinion that counts is your own. Practise your faith (or lack of) however you wish. | |||
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"For those still daft enough to believe in religion ........ if it came to a genuine 100% no going back choice between your religion and swinging - which would you choose? less of the daft enough, respect other people Onny, ur old enough and should know better, whether ur atheist ect whatever...dont call people daft(or stupid) for believing in something that U do not! and for the record I have no religious beliefs " | |||
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"I believe in the Tooth Fairy and she is all for swinging!" thats just pillow talk | |||
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"Wow this has taken a nasty turn :S I just say, have fun, do all you want and if the pearly gates exist, then we will know when we need to ! Enjoy life !!!!!!!!" Quite right too !! I don't know about 'pearly gates' much prefer 'pearly necklace ' | |||
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"don't see why not:-most religions full of folk who interpret it to suit what they want to do,I'm sure some can twist it to make swinging seem like gods will!" Just brilliant, well said | |||
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"don't see why not:-most religions full of folk who interpret it to suit what they want to do,I'm sure some can twist it to make swinging seem like gods will! Just brilliant, well said" Sex and the pursuit of pleasure are very powerful motivations... Everyone has a weakness I suspect, even the most religious folk...some give in to them, and convince themselves it's okay, while others remain steadfast... If one is generally happy within themselves and isn't hurting other people, more power to them.. | |||
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"For me religion is a way of manipulatin people so others can have power The abrahamic religions (Christianity, Judaism & Islam) are all ones which seek power over others and are inherently evil None are compatible with swinging but most swingers I know have more goodness in then than any religious zealot " how very very true and yet they are the biggest fornicators in the world hiding behind their faith | |||
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"We can debate this as much as we like, surely the only opinion that counts is Gods. Many religeons of the past had prostitutes serving in the temples. So yes, you can have swinging and religion. Doesn't mean that god approves. " What do prostitutes have to do with swinging? | |||
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"We can debate this as much as we like, surely the only opinion that counts is Gods. Many religeons of the past had prostitutes serving in the temples. So yes, you can have swinging and religion. Doesn't mean that god approves. What do prostitutes have to do with swinging?" loose women, | |||
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"Religion was invented to control poor people, It is still used to control people, society needs marriage and children, so of course you are breaking the basic rules of most religions, adultery, sex outside marriage, layin with a man. If you are religious and believe in it, you are going to hell!" Whilst abusing kids is OK??????? | |||
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"We can debate this as much as we like, surely the only opinion that counts is Gods. Many religeons of the past had prostitutes serving in the temples. So yes, you can have swinging and religion. Doesn't mean that god approves. What do prostitutes have to do with swinging?" Why be so pedantic? It was just one illustration to show that sex and religion often go hand in hand. I could have spoken about the orgies that the Canaanites held while worshipping Baal and Molek but I'm sure you'd find something to troll about that too. While a lot of terrible things have happened in the name of religion there are also lots of examples of very sincere people doing great work to help others. For you to dismiss them so generally (in a previous post in this thread) says more about you than them. | |||
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"For those still daft enough to believe in religion ........ if it came to a genuine 100% no going back choice between your religion and swinging - which would you choose?" Wow. | |||
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"As all the major faiths preach against fornication I can't see how one can be a 'swinger' and say you are a practising member of any faith I guess you can say you're religious which isn't the same as saying you practise a religion but then again seeing as, in my experience, most church/mosque/etc goers are a bunch of hypocrites then yes, you can claim to be a swinger as well as regularly attending whichever religious service you choose to " Exactly what I think....... | |||
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"We go to confession every Saturday.... Farther John says it's the best 1 hour of the week....!! " he tells me that too as he drop his kecks for me | |||
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"Religion was invented to control poor people, It is still used to control people, society needs marriage and children, so of course you are breaking the basic rules of most religions, adultery, sex outside marriage, layin with a man. If you are religious and believe in it, you are going to hell! Whilst abusing kids is OK???????" any type of abuse is wrong. | |||
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"The word religion covers so many differing sects that the only answer to the op questions is yes there are indeed some religious doctrines cults and sects which are harmonious with swinging x However if the op was using the word religion yet really referring to the mainstream doctrine of the fab 4 then the answer would be, not without without disobeying the standards suggested by the religion thus a catholic swinger is not a fully practicing catholic Bearing in mind it is believing in and following the doctrine of, a particular religion which gives the person a religious label in the first place It is mainly nonchalant ignorance which causes many citizens of the UK to proclaim they are Christian or c of e when in reality all they really have is an agnostic thought that a creator god may exist And yes people who think a creator god exists are daft and those that follow the top 4 religions as a rule book written by a true authority are also daft and sometimes dangerous often bigoted It is a reasoned valid comment to articulate any person who takes a stance of belief with zero evidence is daft x " Whereas the evidence for evolution is overwhelming? It amuses me how often people who believe in evolution display the same zealot like behaviour as a person who believes in god. Both take a leap of faith. Flip a coin, take your pick!! | |||
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"Erm yes the facts concerning evolution are indeed overwhelming , I am genuinely overwhelmed daily with new revelations concerning earth's geology and evolution" Genuinely, what overwhelming evidence? | |||
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"Erm yes the facts concerning evolution are indeed overwhelming , I am genuinely overwhelmed daily with new revelations concerning earth's geology and evolution Genuinely, what overwhelming evidence? " Surly your just trolling now ? With genetic evidence, fossil evidence body morphology evidence , cross breeding evidence. And the fact that almost no if any living creature ever has or does produce an exact clone of itself The fact that layers of the earth can be dated at least chronologically layered and creatures that exist at one time do not exist at others that transitional fossils do exist , that large mammals did not exist 200 million years ago that whole forests have been petrified which can be dated and analysed. That millions of years of ocean life is chronologically stored in sedimentary rock and sea life changes over time that mass extinctions can be identified and dated and life forms that evolve differ from previous existence A bacteria becoming resistant to a drug is evolution an animal or crop bred or just selected is evolution in action Human mutants illustrate evolution What part of the facts of evolution do you feel are non existent | |||
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"Yes if you a quaker as i like my oats " Shhhhh. Not a word. | |||
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"Erm yes the facts concerning evolution are indeed overwhelming , I am genuinely overwhelmed daily with new revelations concerning earth's geology and evolution" How do you get time to do the washing up then? | |||
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"Can you have them both together? Me and my mates had a d*unken debate about this the other night and I'm wondering what everyone else thinks (: x" Sexuality and sexual behaviour is natural behaviour driven by instinct, hormones and individual desires, among other things. Religion in its many forms is a man made concept created by man for man and different societies as a whole. So for me I can't actually see how or why religion can conflict with anything I get upto/want to get upto when I'm having my extra special nakedy time | |||
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"Can you have them both together? Me and my mates had a d*unken debate about this the other night and I'm wondering what everyone else thinks (: x" Well its not exactly swinging but Mormons have a different view on swinging and there are many religious cults who believe in free love so the answer has to be yes even if its only for a minority. | |||
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"Can you have them both together? Me and my mates had a d*unken debate about this the other night and I'm wondering what everyone else thinks (: x Sexuality and sexual behaviour is natural behaviour driven by instinct, hormones and individual desires, among other things. Religion in its many forms is a man made concept created by man for man and different societies as a whole. So for me I can't actually see how or why religion can conflict with anything I get upto/want to get upto when I'm having my extra special nakedy time " Interesting I think we may find the doctrine of Islam and Christianity would indeed conflict with the sexual desires of homosexual men , if they had been born into either sect and wished to please the horrid creature of the myth their sexual activities would indeed cause mental anguish x | |||
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"I bet if god does or did exist and he or she saw all the problems and wars religion has caused he or she would become an atheist!" he would say "I thunk u therefore I am" | |||
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