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"If get any sort of inkling one half of the couple (M or F) is not into it I do not meet them. " Me too, but sometimes you only get a inkling when you actually meet them. | |||
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"We have Bern in several situations where couples get into arguments (social occasions at clubs not meets) we are starting go wonder if we are abnormal because we font argue when we go to clubs lol " I'm surprised this happens in clubs too. | |||
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"We recently meet a couple socially and hit it off very well on a social level. Had a great time out and we felt good about making their acquaintance. Found out afterwards that they had a massive argument once we went our separate ways. I think a lot of couple make the mistake of not talking honestly about potential scenarios that could arise in swinging. There are a lot of misconceptions about swinging. When we first started exploring the lifestyle we made friends with a man who was a lot more experienced. He told us that although it is the ultimate male fantasy this was a women run lifestyle. If the women aren't happy no one is happy and that alot of times that doesn't sit well with the husbands of new couples. It also seems that even when both want to play and enjoy themselves they dont want their partner to actually have fun. I find that so odd and a bit selfish. " I've also known couples where it was his.idea and she took some persuading but once they started she loved it and he realised that it didn't live up to the fantasy. The problem then being that he wanted to stop but after spending so long pestering and persuading her he didn't know how to say "this swinging lark that I practically bullied you into trying, I don't actually like it so even though you are having the time of your life can we stop please?" The main reason I don't play with attached men even with their partners permission and encouragement is that I've been caught up in the middle of some weird couple dynamics and the interloper usually gets the worst of it! | |||
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" There are a lot of misconceptions about swinging. When we first started exploring the lifestyle we made friends with a man who was a lot more experienced. He told us that although it is the ultimate male fantasy this was a women run lifestyle. If the women aren't happy no one is happy and that alot of times that doesn't sit well with the husbands of new couples. It also seems that even when both want to play and enjoy themselves they dont want their partner to actually have fun. I find that so odd and a bit selfish. I've also known couples where it was his.idea and she took some persuading but once they started she loved it and he realised that it didn't live up to the fantasy. The problem then being that he wanted to stop but after spending so long pestering and persuading her he didn't know how to say "this swinging lark that I practically bullied you into trying, I don't actually like it so even though you are having the time of your life can we stop please?" The main reason I don't play with attached men even with their partners permission and encouragement is that I've been caught up in the middle of some weird couple dynamics and the interloper usually gets the worst of it! " I have heard this happens a lot. Even though its the mans idea sometimes its the women who take to it much more easily. My opinion is that men who do this aren't really secure with themselves and want to have a threesome to boost their own ego and bragging rights. As soon as they see their wife enjoying it or getting more attention they want to call it quits. Not fair at all. | |||
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"On occasion i've had meets with couples where it was obvious the wife's heart wasn't in it and others where the couple spent the whole time bickering with each other. Don't know if its just me lol but has this happened to anyone else?" It happened to me, met for a drink & she said she was a little nervpus but ok. Went to theirs & he left us 2 women to talk. She burst into tears & was petrified. She had ony agreed to it because he'd more or less bullied her into it. I finished my coffe and then told him it wasn't going to happen & that I was leaving. He had the cheek to call me a timewaster & fake. xx | |||
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"On occasion i've had meets with couples where it was obvious the wife's heart wasn't in it and others where the couple spent the whole time bickering with each other. Don't know if its just me lol but has this happened to anyone else?" yes I met one couple and the women kicked me out the house at 1am because she couldn't handle it, ive met a few couples where they have had a domestic, or have been that busy keeping an eye on each other its killed the mood, I met one couple who had a no kissing rule and all she did was keep an eye on him to make she we didn't kiss I ended up telling them to forget it, I used to meet couples but because of the amount of bad experiences I stopped, I now only meet single men, I have met some really nice couples but over all the bad meets with couples greatly out weighted the good ones so I now stick to single where I don't feel like im treading on egg shells | |||
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"On occasion i've had meets with couples where it was obvious the wife's heart wasn't in it and others where the couple spent the whole time bickering with each other. Don't know if its just me lol but has this happened to anyone else?" No we haven't and we don't wish to either.We are just looking for nsa fun no drama.if we come across that we wont even go there. | |||
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"A few years back I was contacted by the female half of a couple who's husband wanted to watch her with another guy After quite a bit of correspondence, which he was only initially involved with, it transpired that their's was a marriage in trouble (violence, bullying etc) and it was something the husband had been pressuring her to do for years We eventually met without his knowledge and she had such a great time she said she cried on her way home as she'd never had sex where her needs were the focus Lost contact over the years but I hope she eventually dumped his sorry ass" My experience of this was similar. | |||
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"We recently meet a couple socially and hit it off very well on a social level. Had a great time out and we felt good about making their acquaintance. Found out afterwards that they had a massive argument once we went our separate ways. I think a lot of couple make the mistake of not talking honestly about potential scenarios that could arise in swinging. There are a lot of misconceptions about swinging. When we first started exploring the lifestyle we made friends with a man who was a lot more experienced. He told us that although it is the ultimate male fantasy this was a women run lifestyle. If the women aren't happy no one is happy and that alot of times that doesn't sit well with the husbands of new couples. It also seems that even when both want to play and enjoy themselves they dont want their partner to actually have fun. I find that so odd and a bit selfish. " Similar situation just happened to us with some newbies who I don't think talked it through. Long story short.we had some social outings. He (the other mr.) was jealous of me pleasuring his wife. Massive blow out. Lesson learnt on our end. Mrs. | |||
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"Absolutely fantastic comments by everyone so far on this topic, thank you all, its been brilliant to read and a real eye opener as i had no idea that so many couples fell out and bickered while in a club or on a meet. The other thing i've noticed though is the lack of single male comments so far? Apart from me i think only 3 other guys have commented. Could this be that most single guys couldn't give a stuff whats happening with the couple as long as they get their end away? I know for myself i couldn't go through with a meet if the wife's heart wasn't in it or if the couple started arguing for whatever reason. I still welcome further comments from couples and women as its been brilliant so far, but would also like to hear from other single guys out there and maybe why so few of us have contributed to this topic so far?" I have met several couples on my own and, with one exception, it has been good fun. My lady friend and I are now also doing couple meets and the first one was excellent for all 4 of us. I do however like to have a very open conversation with the couple before we meet to understand where their interests and concerns lie. If they are not up for it then we will not play as the atmosphere becomes very uncomfortable. | |||
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"I do however like to have a very open conversation with the couple before we meet to understand where their interests and concerns lie. If they are not up for it then we will not play as the atmosphere becomes very uncomfortable. " Thats a good idea | |||
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"On occasion i've had meets with couples where it was obvious the wife's heart wasn't in it and others where the couple spent the whole time bickering with each other. Don't know if its just me lol but has this happened to anyone else?" the problem with this hobby of ours is that you never know how you're going to actually feel until you actually experience it...people fantasise about it and it builds up into an amazingly horny picture in your mind...they talk about it and think they've established their boundaries but until you're actually in the thick of it, you really have no idea how you're going to feel...or react... We met a couple this weekend at a club and it was very clear from her body language and the things she said that she was extremely unhappy with the whole lifestyle...he was like a dog with 2 dicks and clearly didn't care how she felt...he couldn't have been oblivious it was so obvious...their dynamic made them unattractive and we would never have considered them...but she also wasn't open to anyone else talking to her about it either so my instinct to try and help her wasn't welcome... | |||
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"Absolutely fantastic comments by everyone so far on this topic, thank you all, its been brilliant to read and a real eye opener as i had no idea that so many couples fell out and bickered while in a club or on a meet. The other thing i've noticed though is the lack of single male comments so far? Apart from me i think only 3 other guys have commented. Could this be that most single guys couldn't give a stuff whats happening with the couple as long as they get their end away? I know for myself i couldn't go through with a meet if the wife's heart wasn't in it or if the couple started arguing for whatever reason. I still welcome further comments from couples and women as its been brilliant so far, but would also like to hear from other single guys out there and maybe why so few of us have contributed to this topic so far?" Reading all of this and thinking 'Wow' and 'Fucccckkk'. Never experience any of this with couples at all. Guess I have been lucky? | |||
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"Reading all of this and thinking 'Wow' and 'Fucccckkk'. Never experience any of this with couples at all. Guess I have been lucky?" You have been lucky mate lol. A couple of years ago i had a fb couple come to mine and they argued so much he eventually walked out and left her there, with me Can't complain about that one though as we ended up having a great night together anyway without him lol | |||
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"Let us be honest about this, if a man forces his wife into having sex with other men then that is some sort of rape. The very last thing of all things I would want to do is force myself on a lady. Hence why I like to hear from her before we meet and, if I get a chance of a quiet 1 to 1 before we start, I ask her if she is REALLY happy. If she says no then I would pull the plug and let him get pissed with me so he does not blame her. " Thank for putting this out there. It is a form of rape and it will only lead to breaking down a womans self esteem. You are very respectful and i find that a very attractive quality. | |||
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"Let us be honest about this, if a man forces his wife into having sex with other men then that is some sort of rape. The very last thing of all things I would want to do is force myself on a lady. Hence why I like to hear from her before we meet and, if I get a chance of a quiet 1 to 1 before we start, I ask her if she is REALLY happy. If she says no then I would pull the plug and let him get pissed with me so he does not blame her. " I see your point and do appreciate it, although if somebody we were meeting had a quiet 1 to 1 with me to ask if I was genuinely happy I'm sure Scott would feel a little offended, and so would I, that someone would assume I would open up to them over my long term trusted partner x | |||
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"An excellent thread to read through. When we first came into the lifestyle we played with couples but always found it quite difficult, mainly because of the age difference. If we met a couple in MrH age range the female often felt threatened by MrsH being younger and if we met a couple more MrsH age range the female was not always keen on playing with an older man. We had it once where a female half got jealouse because she thought her man was enjoying himself too much!!! A lot of people just do not realise how difficult this lifestyle can be, they think everyone ends up shagging each other and having loads of fun......very rarely does it work out that way. Fortunately over time and after trying just about every scenario you could think of we have ended up whee we are now and enjoy it to the full." I have to say i've learned so much through this thread and as a single guy i now appreciate how difficult it is for a couple to find the right other couple to play with. When i meet a couple its only the three of us who have to gel but when its a couple meeting another couple the dynamic changes and all four of you have to be happy enough with each other to play, what a nightmare that must be. This swinging thing we all do sure aint easy and it seems to be much more of a minefield for some than it is for others. | |||
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"From the situations I've seen or heard about, its usually a result of one party (M or F) wanting to play, but can't stand the thought of someone else playing with their partner. However if you ask them point blank you get the rehearsed "Ofcourse we both like to play - we're a couple!" answer. In short, "they" like to play (who doesn't), but not necessarily what "he"/"she" wants." I totally agree with you | |||
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"On occasion i've had meets with couples where it was obvious the wife's heart wasn't in it and others where the couple spent the whole time bickering with each other. Don't know if its just me lol but has this happened to anyone else?" This has happened to me just once it was an embarrassing situation and I made an excuse I wasn't feeling well, the look in her eyes of relief said it all !!!!. I never want that sort of situation again . | |||
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"Best thread for a long time. Good to hear people have insecurities muc the same as us.. My Mrs is a case in point, she had very mixed views about the Lifestyle , in fact she considered it perverted... After much talking and explaining that I would enjoy watching her with guys, and was not looking to meet women...all about her having fun.. After some great meets and 1 or 2 not so great she is a convert...Loves the club scene, loves meeting young fit guys... we are now chatting to and meeting cpls.. Its all about honesty, building confidence, and fun... We have also met cpls at clubs, where the dynamics are clearly not right! " great post guys | |||
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"On occasion i've had meets with couples where it was obvious the wife's heart wasn't in it and others where the couple spent the whole time bickering with each other. Don't know if its just me lol but has this happened to anyone else?" Only the once where it appeared that the fem half of the couple didn't seem interested in being there. It was only a social meet, so no harm done. In fairness, I believe I was their first meet and they left the site soon after. I guess this lifestyle wasn't for them after all. | |||
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"Best thread for a long time. Good to hear people have insecurities muc the same as us.. My Mrs is a case in point, she had very mixed views about the Lifestyle , in fact she considered it perverted... After much talking and explaining that I would enjoy watching her with guys, and was not looking to meet women...all about her having fun.. After some great meets and 1 or 2 not so great she is a convert...Loves the club scene, loves meeting young fit guys... we are now chatting to and meeting cpls.. Its all about honesty, building confidence, and fun... We have also met cpls at clubs, where the dynamics are clearly not right!" Like the quote, "Best thread for a long time". Thank you guys | |||
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