FabSwingers.com forum: Would you shop a club?

By *orkscrew Curls OP Woman
over a year ago

Loughborough Leics

You go to a licenced swingers club and order a Cointreau and lemonade. It goes distinctively cloudy when mixed. The drink you are served does not. The bartender shows you that it came from an authentic bottle. It is obviously some cheap version of orange schnapps or similar which has been poured into the bottle deliberately.

Do you report the club to the authorities?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No tell him to get proper stuff x

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By *orkscrew Curls OP Woman
over a year ago

Loughborough Leics

"No tell him to get proper stuff x"

If they have been silly enough to fake something so obvious would you not suspect that all of the spirits are cheap (maybe even dangerous) imitations? Meaning you are happy to be ripped off, and potentially risk your health?

You have paid good money in membership, entrance charge and at the bar remember....

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By *ourbonKissMan
over a year ago

a land up north..... of leicester

Depends if I liked the place or not

Or whether or not you'd feel guilty about shopping them when you next go there x

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

I wouldn't have shopped them, but I would have declined the drink and opted for bottled beer or something they haven't tampered with.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

i'd probably report and they're cheating you and probably customs & excise, VAT etc - far reaching ramifications and just plain unfair if you're paying for the real deal Z

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By *eareenaCouple
over a year ago

Rockford

Would speak to someone in charge...maybe write a letter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No tell him to get proper stuff x

You have paid good money in membership, entrance charge and at the bar remember...."
if they didnt produce the right stuff yes report who is to say he wasnt told to try it on x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You go to a licenced swingers club and order a Cointreau and lemonade. It goes distinctively cloudy when mixed. The drink you are served does not. The bartender shows you that it came from an authentic bottle. It is obviously some cheap version of orange schnapps or similar which has been poured into the bottle deliberately.

Do you report the club to the authorities? "

For real ?

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By *orkscrew Curls OP Woman
over a year ago

Loughborough Leics

Seems this con is more rife than I wanted to believe, went to a different club, same story...fake Cointreau

if that's dodgy, then I'd bet most of the other shots are too.

Such a shame that the places we trust con their customers in this way. Feeling very disappointed, takes the shine off an evening for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i do not drink, so i got no problems..lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why would you not report it?

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By *BW38jWoman
over a year ago

Dudley/Telford

go to Chams no licence bring your own booze or buy soft drinks and brilliant atmosphere

if they do get caught the fine and the penalties etc will probably make them think about whether they will continue to trade. weigh it up - does your local boozer offer the same 'facilities or services'

stick to bottles or soft drink

also I find I steer towards the men drinking soft drinks rather than the boozy ones who start to forget the etiquette rules in a club after a few drinks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is why i only buy a bottle of beer etc and you know what it is,anything else that can be switched or played around with is risking it imo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Normally probably not however thinking of the way some of them treat single males.

Depending on the club I just might pick up the phone

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I think that any licenced premises that is possibly selling counterfeit drink should be reported. Imagine the arguing at the weights and measures office over who gets to visit the swingers club for business purposes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thing is if they swap bottle contents...where else do they cut corners? Date expired condoms? Poor cleaning supplies? Licensed disposal of used condoms or just popped in the dustbin?

Thin end of wedge so yes report everytime.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"go to Chams no licence bring your own booze or buy soft drinks and brilliant atmosphere

stick to bottles or soft drink

also I find I steer towards the men drinking soft drinks rather than the boozy ones who start to forget the etiquette rules in a club after a few drinks

None of those are really reasons for not reporting a possible crime though are they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

in answer to your questions yes we would report them, your a paid member of a club yes you do not know what your drinking if its a cheap copy whats in it, people have allergies , if you watch fake britain a guy ate what he thought was cod and chips from his local chippy but it was not cod, he was in a coma for 3 weeks , allergic reaction to tha fish, so cheap copies are not always better,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I would, I'm sorry but I value my health too much to risk drinking something I wasn't happy with.

No place if they are above board should have any problems with being investigated and the way I see it provided everything is as it should could only make it a better place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, because it's deception. If it's a licensed (alcohol) business they can get in loads of trouble for doing that - and they can get a nice, big fine for it too. If you gave them a fake £20 note when you went in, what would they do..???

What's good for the goose and all that...

ted.

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By *octor DeleriumMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

Definite report to Trading Standards by letter, with full details.

The sale by retail of alcohol and the supply of alcohol by or on behalf of a club are both licensable activities. Licensing Act 2003; what you are suggesting is that the Club is behaving fraudulently by passing off one product as another.

Doctor Nasty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the clubs know you wont shop them,

they figure you wouldn't want publicity, for being in a swingers club.

the biggest con is gin and tonic, pour gin in a bowl, rinse top of glass in gin, add ice and tonic, you get taste of gin, from glass rim, but paing for just tonic

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By *orkscrew Curls OP Woman
over a year ago

Loughborough Leics

"the clubs know you wont shop them,

they figure you wouldn't want publicity, for being in a swingers club.

the biggest con is gin and tonic, pour gin in a bowl, rinse top of glass in gin, add ice and tonic, you get taste of gin, from glass rim, but paing for just tonic"

Actually I've been looking into this - you only have to send an email, and as anyone can set one up in minutes its pretty much anonymous.

Have to agree with the vast majority - there is no choice but to report. I hope others do too, if they are unfortunate enough to come across it - show the clubs we won't stand for this deceptive behaviour...Cheers Fabsters xx

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

Cheap lemonade can make spirits react differently so that could be the reason , as spirits are cheap now they would only be making 20-30p each per drink by doing that .

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

did you raise with management at the time

havent read the whole thread, apologies if you have mentioned that later

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

"the clubs know you wont shop them,

they figure you wouldn't want publicity, for being in a swingers club.

the biggest con is gin and tonic, pour gin in a bowl, rinse top of glass in gin, add ice and tonic, you get taste of gin, from glass rim, but paing for just tonic"

Lol not heard that one for ages ....

Don't tell me a friend of a friend knows someone who used to do that .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would report them definetly !

I dont drink when i go to a club but if i did i would lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the clubs know you wont shop them,

they figure you wouldn't want publicity, for being in a swingers club.

the biggest con is gin and tonic, pour gin in a bowl, rinse top of glass in gin, add ice and tonic, you get taste of gin, from glass rim, but paing for just tonic"

I would rather people found that out than not say anything and someone possible die but hey that's just me.

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By *orkscrew Curls OP Woman
over a year ago

Loughborough Leics

"Cheap lemonade can make spirits react differently so that could be the reason , as spirits are cheap now they would only be making 20-30p each per drink by doing that ."

In the second club there was a second, unopened bottle of Cointreau. The bartender poured a measure from this, added lemonade from the same bottle, and hey presto- a cloudy genuine drink which I went on to enjoy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you report the club to the authorities? "

Up to you I would though.

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By *orkscrew Curls OP Woman
over a year ago

Loughborough Leics

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By *orkscrew Curls OP Woman
over a year ago

Loughborough Leics

"did you raise with management at the time

havent read the whole thread, apologies if you have mentioned that later"

No, I didn't. I explained clearly to the barstaff why I was rejecting the drinks. It was up to them if they fed this back to the club management. I feel for me to have done that at the time would have further dampened my enjoyment of the night. Plus...why warn them and give then the chance to clean their acts up? Report to the relevant legal authorities and let them suffer the consequences of their actions....

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"did you raise with management at the time

havent read the whole thread, apologies if you have mentioned that later

cool, so you did report them then

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

"did you raise with management at the time

havent read the whole thread, apologies if you have mentioned that later

I will experiment but the only thing that might be close to cointreau is triple sec and thats only 15-20p cheaper per shot .

Please don't try and talk me out of this experiment , I will sacrifice myself in the name of honesty ......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No as my friend drinks same- and if it is not drank regularly -- it goes off. Just ask them to pour you one from a new bottle it will be fine.

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

"No as my friend drinks same- and if it is not drank regularly -- it goes off. Just ask them to pour you one from a new bottle it will be fine."

Still going to do my experiment , and no it's not just an excuse for me to get d*unk ......

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By *orkscrew Curls OP Woman
over a year ago

Loughborough Leics

"No as my friend drinks same- and if it is not drank regularly -- it goes off. Just ask them to pour you one from a new bottle it will be fine."

From the Official Cointreau website “Correctly stored, it will remain in good condition for many years. However, to be enjoyed at its very best, Cointreau should be consumed within three years after manufacture.”

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

"No as my friend drinks same- and if it is not drank regularly -- it goes off. Just ask them to pour you one from a new bottle it will be fine.

Does it tell you the correct way to store it ? as mine is on a shelf with spotlights above ( serious question ).

Jo x

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By *eddonistikMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"the clubs know you wont shop them,

they figure you wouldn't want publicity, for being in a swingers club.

the biggest con is gin and tonic, pour gin in a bowl, rinse top of glass in gin, add ice and tonic, you get taste of gin, from glass rim, but paing for just tonic

Lol not heard that one for ages ....

Don't tell me a friend of a friend knows someone who used to do that ."

I knew a bar manager who told they did it.

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By *iker ladMan
over a year ago

Hinckley

Yes definitely, nothing to do with health reasons, it's purely the money, not that I mind spending a few quid when I'm out enjoying myself but that I don't like being near money grubbing little chisellers, they put a dark cloud over wherever they go!

ALL DRINKS LESS THAN A FIVER!!!

"That'll be £4.99.9 plz!!!!

Conniving scum!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they have been serving non genuine drinks then they should be reported.

We know a local pub who have been reported a couple of times for serving cheap store vodka and whisky in expensive bottles.

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

"the clubs know you wont shop them,

they figure you wouldn't want publicity, for being in a swingers club.

the biggest con is gin and tonic, pour gin in a bowl, rinse top of glass in gin, add ice and tonic, you get taste of gin, from glass rim, but paing for just tonic

Lol not heard that one for ages ....

Don't tell me a friend of a friend knows someone who used to do that .

I knew a bar manager who told they did it."

If you actually try it you might be fooled by the first sip ( if you were that d*unk that you'd not be able to stand ) but after that the tonic and your lips will have washed away any taste of gin off the glass , so unless you have no taste buds or down it in one with gin being a fairly strong taste you notice . But if the barman/woman points behind you and shouts "look an eagle" whilest prending to pour your gin that there might be a case , and if they go to all that trouble for a 45p shot of gin ( 1 ltr of gin £18 25ml shots = 40 shots ).

When I was a bar manager I'd got some good stories ( we all like to be a bit roguish us bar managers and we are all normally good friends with the local gangsters )

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By *ucy and CarlCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

Pleasures the club we go to is unlicensed so bring your own drink. Even if they were licenced they wouldn't be dishonest like that

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

id write to easther ranson or the wright stuff thats just not exceptable

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

I'd complain on the spot, regardless of the environment if they are going against their licence it's fraud.

I prefer environments where you can bring your own.

Ruby x

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