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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

Cuckolding, what's that all about? As a black guy i get many offers from cuckold couples and the offers i get vary from the very mild to the criminally insane lol.

So what exactly is a cuck? and what enjoyment do they get from having a bull? All comments welcome and I expect there'll be a 1,000 different answers to this one lol

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By *orkduoCouple
over a year ago

york

I think I don't know if im right ,but it means the male licks up the cum off another mans cum outta the womans pussy .I think ?hes the clean up man ""

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I (nick) enjoy being made to listen from another part of the house to the fun or if a regular guy was available being told lynn is meeting him whilst i'm at work or even maybe going out and staying at his place for the evening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think I don't know if im right ,but it means the male licks up the cum off another mans cum outta the womans pussy .I think ?hes the clean up man """

This too

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By *orkduoCouple
over a year ago

york

if you google it it tells you what it is x

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"if you google it it tells you what it is x"

Thats true and i bet there's a description in the dictionary too, but i'm more interested in peoples own interpretations on here, as i suspect there'll be those who are cucks but there'll be others who just think they are cucks lol

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

Any cucks or bulls like to give their opinion on this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i am the cuck in the relationship , my wife has had sex with men while i was at work and has a semi regular lover and she has spent nights at his place. i love to watch her having fun but this isnt always possible.for me its the humiliation of it all ... knowing and being told that i am not man enough to satisfy her so she has to look elsewhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought we were a Cuckold couple until I just read a description on this thread.

I like Bev visit guys and fuck them while they phone me and let me listen and take pics and email to me for Bev and I to look at later and fuck while discussing all that happened.

As for licking another guys cumout of her...No way, we always play safe and I couldnt think of anything more revolting, so if cuck is this theh I have no idea what describes us...except very horny lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cuckolding covers a wide variety of things, there isnt one explanation for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also have to say alot of people describe the humiliation, this isnt us either.

We dont find what we do humiliating just extremely naughty and horny, I dont feel like i'm not man enough and have to have other guys do it for me, quite the opposite after Bev getsfucked I am so horny we fuck for hours about it, its just the naughtyness of her going to meet a stranger that arouses us both

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also have to say alot of people describe the humiliation, this isnt us either.

We dont find what we do humiliating just extremely naughty and horny, I dont feel like i'm not man enough and have to have other guys do it for me, quite the opposite after Bev getsfucked I am so horny we fuck for hours about it, its just the naughtyness of her going

to meet a stranger that arouses us both"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also have to say alot of people describe the humiliation, this isnt us either.

We dont find what we do humiliating just extremely naughty and horny, I dont feel like i'm not man enough and have to have other guys do it for me, quite the opposite after Bev getsfucked I am so horny we fuck for hours about it, its just the naughtyness of her going

to meet a stranger that arouses us both"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Find it very hard to believe that you don't know what cuckolding is all about.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

As the poster detailed he gets a huge range of cuckold type requests, I think it reveals that that this type of play is so enormously varied. As varied as the people who enjoy it - I'm surprised he needed to ask the question too, as he'd been given loads of info by the requesters, on a plate.

As for the 'criminally insane' comment from him, that's really bordering on offensive to cuckold lovers. Whilst he doesn't say what needs were being requested I'm surprised that he expected others to be bothered to reply and reveal their personal interests etc. Presumably if anything was criminal, he'd have reported it, and he's just used this to put down some other people.

I don't know whether he's got cuckold as one of his interests, but maybe he needs to make it explicitly clear that it's not his cup of tea, if he by now doesn't know what it is and doesn't want it.

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Find it very hard to believe that you don't know what cuckolding is all about."

lol

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"As for the 'criminally insane' comment from him, that's really bordering on offensive to cuckold lovers. Whilst he doesn't say what needs were being requested I'm surprised that he expected others to be bothered to reply and reveal their personal interests etc. Presumably if anything was criminal, he'd have reported it, and he's just used this to put down some other people.

I don't know whether he's got cuckold as one of his interests, but maybe he needs to make it explicitly clear that it's not his cup of tea, if he by now doesn't know what it is and doesn't want it."

My original posting was not a put down to anyone it was meant to be tongue in cheek lol, so i'm sorry if i've offended anyone but please don't take it so seriously. It was also designed to invite comments and opinions, just like yours, on a subject i thought was interesting because it has so many different interpretations amongst us swingers. As for me being into cuckolding? just read my profile and it won't take you long to see what i'm into

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"Cuckolding, what's that all about? As a black guy i get many offers from cuckold couples and the offers i get vary from the very mild to the criminally insane lol.

So what exactly is a cuck? and what enjoyment do they get from having a bull? All comments welcome and I expect there'll be a 1,000 different answers to this one lol"

dont think you have to be a black guy to get cuck offers lol .

Cuck couple range as do usual women looking for meets, so like freelance sex, some want a buddy rel, some want tenderness others want sextreme. Its the same with cuck/cucking - all depends what they are after and how open they are

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Cuck couple range as do usual women looking for meets, so like freelance sex, some want a buddy rel, some want tenderness others want sextreme. Its the same with cuck/cucking - all depends what they are after and how open they are "

But thats just it mate isn't cuckolding a specific activity? otherwise its just swinging, or am i wrong?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Find it very hard to believe that you don't know what cuckolding is all about."

Why? Not everyone does as I didn't until I came on here but then I am single so less chance maybe of knowing, not been something any of my exes were into either

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Find it very hard to believe that you don't know what cuckolding is all about.

Why? Not everyone does as I didn't until I came on here but then I am single so less chance maybe of knowing, not been something any of my exes were into either"

Very well put, not everyone knows everything

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"Also have to say alot of people describe the humiliation, this isnt us either.

We dont find what we do humiliating just extremely naughty and horny, I dont feel like i'm not man enough and have to have other guys do it for me, quite the opposite after Bev getsfucked I am so horny we fuck for hours about it, its just the naughtyness of her going to meet a stranger that arouses us both"

Is that cuckolding though? Sounds like swinging to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also have to say alot of people describe the humiliation, this isnt us either.

We dont find what we do humiliating just extremely naughty and horny, I dont feel like i'm not man enough and have to have other guys do it for me, quite the opposite after Bev getsfucked I am so horny we fuck for hours about it, its just the naughtyness of her going to meet a stranger that arouses us both

Is that cuckolding though? Sounds like swinging to me "

That does sound like swinging. I believe there has to be a certain level of humilition for the cuck thing to work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cuckolding ranges from watching to the extreme side of humiliation and clean up, so no it isnt a specific thing, it doesnt have to include any humiliation but often it can and will, it covers a variety of things.

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Also have to say alot of people describe the humiliation, this isnt us either.

We dont find what we do humiliating just extremely naughty and horny, I dont feel like i'm not man enough and have to have other guys do it for me, quite the opposite after Bev getsfucked I am so horny we fuck for hours about it, its just the naughtyness of her going to meet a stranger that arouses us both

Is that cuckolding though? Sounds like swinging to me

That does sound like swinging. I believe there has to be a certain level of humilition for the cuck thing to work.

"

I agree with that too, i feel the humiliation of the cuck is the specific key element of cuckolding, without it surely its just swinging, isn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, the word swinging covers everything in the lifestyle, cuckolding however covers watching/knowing your other half is having sex with the bull onto been humiliated, prepping and cleaning up onto the sissy cuck side of it, it doesnt have to include all aspects of it although it can, so there doesnt need to be humiliation but sometimes it does, you will find different cuckold couples have different ways/ideas to cuckold/ be cuckolded, which is why i said originaly that there isnt 1 explanation of the word it covers a whole host of things.

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"No, the word swinging covers everything in the lifestyle, cuckolding however covers watching/knowing your other half is having sex with the bull onto been humiliated, prepping and cleaning up onto the sissy cuck side of it, it doesnt have to include all aspects of it although it can, so there doesnt need to be humiliation but sometimes it does, you will find different cuckold couples have different ways/ideas to cuckold/ be cuckolded, which is why i said originaly that there isnt 1 explanation of the word it covers a whole host of things."

Can't agree with you mate if it can involve anything its just swinging, surely?

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By *irtyAdi73Man
over a year ago

Sale


"As the poster detailed he gets a huge range of cuckold type requests, I think it reveals that that this type of play is so enormously varied. As varied as the people who enjoy it - I'm surprised he needed to ask the question too, as he'd been given loads of info by the requesters, on a plate.

As for the 'criminally insane' comment from him, that's really bordering on offensive to cuckold lovers. Whilst he doesn't say what needs were being requested I'm surprised that he expected others to be bothered to reply and reveal their personal interests etc. Presumably if anything was criminal, he'd have reported it, and he's just used this to put down some other people.

I don't know whether he's got cuckold as one of his interests, but maybe he needs to make it explicitly clear that it's not his cup of tea, if he by now doesn't know what it is and doesn't want it."

I really dont see how you see this guys question is a put down to anyone

He wanted to kno something so he asked with a little humor

Do you read the daily mail by any chance

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"As the poster detailed he gets a huge range of cuckold type requests, I think it reveals that that this type of play is so enormously varied. As varied as the people who enjoy it - I'm surprised he needed to ask the question too, as he'd been given loads of info by the requesters, on a plate.

As for the 'criminally insane' comment from him, that's really bordering on offensive to cuckold lovers. Whilst he doesn't say what needs were being requested I'm surprised that he expected others to be bothered to reply and reveal their personal interests etc. Presumably if anything was criminal, he'd have reported it, and he's just used this to put down some other people.

I don't know whether he's got cuckold as one of his interests, but maybe he needs to make it explicitly clear that it's not his cup of tea, if he by now doesn't know what it is and doesn't want it.

I really dont see how you see this guys question is a put down to anyone

He wanted to kno something so he asked with a little humor

Do you read the daily mail by any chance "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, the word swinging covers everything in the lifestyle, cuckolding however covers watching/knowing your other half is having sex with the bull onto been humiliated, prepping and cleaning up onto the sissy cuck side of it, it doesnt have to include all aspects of it although it can, so there doesnt need to be humiliation but sometimes it does, you will find different cuckold couples have different ways/ideas to cuckold/ be cuckolded, which is why i said originaly that there isnt 1 explanation of the word it covers a whole host of things.

Can't agree with you mate if it can involve anything its just swinging, surely?"

i didnt say it can include anything i said its a wide variety of things, there isnt 1 specific answer.

Swinging= to enjoy and engage in n.s.a. Sex with other like minded people and to enjoy exploring fantasies and living them out, the word swinging covers all the categories ,swapping,cuckolding,dogging etc.

To watch your wife been fucked by a bull is cuckolding.

To no that your wife is going to the bulls house to be fucked is cuckolding.

The cuck doesnt need to play any part apart from sitting watching his wife been fucked by a bigger cock.

However at the other end it can and often does include prepping,clean up, humiliation and sissy, but it doesnt HAVE to include this.

You have the light end of the scale to the extreme end of it, which again i explain in cuckolding there isnt 1 single specific meaning, the word covers a variety of things.

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By * Busty HotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Bradford


"Find it very hard to believe that you don't know what cuckolding is all about."

Ditto!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love two bbc with hubby watching is that lable it what you wish. :-

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For the majority, cuckolding incorporates an element of the male being submissive to the wife.

This may mean that she simply orders him to watch, but doesnt humiliate him any further through to he is in a cock cage and can only orgasm if and when she lets him or her bull lets him etc. There are a myriad of options, but in general for cuckolding there has to be an element of submissiveness on the males part.

To enjoy watching your wife fuck other men without there being any element of submissiveness is more the hotwife end of the range. The man and woman are on equal footing, she just happens to have lots of partners beside the male. But the male is NOT dominated by her or the partners.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes its still cuckolding, in this day and age most do go into the humiliation and extreme side, which is why the common mistake made is thinking IT has to be part of it, it doesnt, the 1st part of cuckolding and the 1st sign of submissive is watching a man with a bigger cock satisfy your wife, that alone is been submissive and is the very beginning of cuckolding.

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"To watch your wife been fucked by a bull is cuckolding.

To no that your wife is going to the bulls house to be fucked is cuckolding.

The cuck doesnt need to play any part apart from sitting watching his wife been fucked by a bigger cock.

However at the other end it can and often does include prepping,clean up, humiliation and sissy, but it doesnt HAVE to include this.

You have the light end of the scale to the extreme end of it, which again i explain in cuckolding there isnt 1 single specific meaning, the word covers a variety of things.

"

I'm sorry mate still don't agree. I've taken part in all the above 3 types of meets you mentioned with couples and at no stage was i regarded as a bull and neither was the husband regarded as a cuck, and in all three examples the husbands enjoyed seeing their wives having a 'lover' who she would fuck infront of him or away at her 'lovers' home, where he could watch on cam or other times video'd for him to watch later. It was never cuckolding because all involved enjoyed what went on and none of us played a submissive role to anyone else, it was just true swinging.

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By *EXY50ishWoman
over a year ago

Anywhere and nowhere

To help the debating I've copied the definition of cuckolding below -see everyone's right after all

Cuckold historically referred to a husband with an adulterous wife and is still often used with this meaning. Since the 1990s, the term has also been widely used to refer to a sexual fetish in which the fetishist is stimulated by their committed partner choosing to have sex with someone else.[1]

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does this not explain what i have been explaining, an adulterous wife ( she who has sex with other men) , watching, knowing, listening to.

Ive looked into this alot as its something we are very interested in, and in the original descriptions there was no mention of sissy, humiliation, clean up, cock cages or the like, it was about a man knowing/watching his wife was having sex with another man (the bull).

Now in this day and age the humiliation,sissy, clean up, extreme side of it is alot more common, and the just as.common mistake is made that people assume that cuckolding has to invovle those things.

Top and bottom is to some it does have to include the extreme to some it doesnt, but to say that people arent cuckolding because its not what you think is cuckolding is a little ignorant.

You could say those at the extreme end arent cuckolding as they are sissy, or like humiliation or forced play, but no as its ignorant.

From the 1st submission of watching/knowing your wife is been fucked by a bull with a bigger cock, whether forced or not, all the way through to humiliation and denial and all the little nooks and crannies on the way is covered by the word cuckolding.

I really dont no how to explain it any simpler for you, just because you "dont get it" doesnt mean it isnt cuckolding, im trying to help you "get it".

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By *rs and Mr PandoraCouple
over a year ago

LUTTERWORTH

Perhaps its easier to say if the couple concerned say its cuckolding it is, with whatever limits/wants they have. Cuckolding has a broad spectrum and differs from person to person as this thread has shown.

If cuckolding isn't mentioned then its just swinging .

Pandora

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

An interesting thread - thanks for posting x I am new to this but have a couple of FB who want to be cucks ( although strictly speaking its more acting a part than true cuck as we have no real relationship ) x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a Bull for two couples, neither or whom are on Fab; PM me if you'd like to know more about either the scenarios or mindset involved...

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Top and bottom is to some it does have to include the extreme to some it doesnt, but to say that people arent cuckolding because its not what you think is cuckolding is a little ignorant.

You could say those at the extreme end arent cuckolding as they are sissy, or like humiliation or forced play, but no as its ignorant."

Firstly, just because i don't agree with you does not make me ignorant, so why do you need to get personal? Maybe you're losing your arguement

Secondly, as mentioned above the true definition of a cuckold is someone who has an adulterous wife, not someone who has a wife who sees other guys with his blessing, because plainly that's not adultery.

Thirdly, why do you keep mentioning that the bull has to have a bigger cock? That sounds more to me like a requirement of a bi husband, hardly cuckolding if the bi man's getting what he wants.

You may not agree with me, that's fine, but there's no need to get personal. I've never said i'm right, i'm only putting across my point of view, just as you are, and i hope others will continue to contribute to this discussion, as who knows we may well come to a consensus and find something we can all agree on.

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

Ok, drawing on my own personal experience i believe that true cuckolding is where the wife/woman known as the 'cuckoldress' abuses and humiliates her cuck hubby/partner, with the assistance of her bull, in whichever way she feels fit. In other words the cuck hubby/partner has no say in what happens or who the bull is, its completely up to the wife/cuckoldress and she is the one who decides what happens and is in complete control at all times and the cuck has to accept this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im not getting personal, i said its ignorant to assume its not cuckolding just because you dont get it, and yes i agree with your explanation above, that is cuckolding, but the point im making is that its not just that, it can be that but doesnt have to be that, there are other aspects of it, like i have explained, but you seem to be in the mindset of "if its not what i believe to be cuckolding then it isnt cuckolding", and the mention of a bigger cock is nothing to do with a bi man, im actually the female, the bigger cock is about the husband knowing that his wife is been satisfied in ways he cant satisfy her, and what im saying isnt just based on what i believe its based on research looking into it, as it interests us but we dont like the extreme side of it, so again ill say just because you dont get it doesnt mean it isnt cuckolding.

Adultery- an act where husband or wife has sex with someone outside the marriage, so again this is open to many variations.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Cuckolding, what's that all about? As a black guy i get many offers from cuckold couples and the offers i get vary from the very mild to the criminally insane lol.

So what exactly is a cuck? and what enjoyment do they get from having a bull? All comments welcome and I expect there'll be a 1,000 different answers to this one lol"

in effect you answered your own question...

there is a large spectrum of what could be defined as cuckold... from a simple mmf when the man watches... to the more extreme stuff...

i think too many people get stuck and tied up in trying to label everything.....

the 2nd part of your question is probably a lot more simple to answer... because whatever they are doing, because they enjoy it... it turns them on.....

its like trying to put a number on how many guys a woman has to have before she is called a "greedy woman".... by definition anymore then she has could be greedy... so could be 1... or 100...or 1000

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try google then add role play to it and you have your answer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Cuckolding, what's that all about? As a black guy i get many offers from cuckold couples and the offers i get vary from the very mild to the criminally insane lol.

So what exactly is a cuck? and what enjoyment do they get from having a bull? All comments welcome and I expect there'll be a 1,000 different answers to this one lol

in effect you answered your own question...

there is a large spectrum of what could be defined as cuckold... from a simple mmf when the man watches... to the more extreme stuff...

i think too many people get stuck and tied up in trying to label everything.....

the 2nd part of your question is probably a lot more simple to answer... because whatever they are doing, because they enjoy it... it turns them on.....

its like trying to put a number on how many guys a woman has to have before she is called a "greedy woman".... by definition anymore then she has could be greedy... so could be 1... or 100...or 1000

"

my point exactly.

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Im not getting personal, i said its ignorant to assume its not cuckolding just because you dont get it"

There you go again, being personal. Can't you accept that if someone doesn't agree with you it doesn't mean they're ignorant or that they "don't get it". I'm only giving my opinion based on actual experience and your giving yours based on research, doesn't mean i'm right and neither does it mean you're right, but this discussion should be about opinions on this subject and yours, mine and anyone else's should be just as valid, and even if we disagree thats fine, that's what we're here for, just accept that people will have different views from yours and there's nothing wrong with them saying they don't agree with you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Find it very hard to believe that you don't know what cuckolding is all about.

Why? Not everyone does as I didn't until I came on here but then I am single so less chance maybe of knowing, not been something any of my exes were into either"

Please use the forum as its meant to be used, ie by replying to the original thread and not by trying to get a sly dig at some one who is giving an opinion to the question that was asked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im not getting personal, i said its ignorant to assume its not cuckolding just because you dont get it

There you go again, being personal. Can't you accept that if someone doesn't agree with you it doesn't mean they're ignorant or that they "don't get it". I'm only giving my opinion based on actual experience and your giving yours based on research, doesn't mean i'm right and neither does it mean you're right, but this discussion should be about opinions on this subject and yours, mine and anyone else's should be just as valid, and even if we disagree thats fine, that's what we're here for, just accept that people will have different views from yours and there's nothing wrong with them saying they don't agree with you."

i have no problem with people disagreeing with me, and again i reiterate im not been personal with that comment, it is a statement aimed at your repeated use of the "i dont get it" phrase, and that you refuse to accept that there is more to it than your 1 explanation of cuckolding, ive never said your wrong, i agreed with your explanation but also simply explained that with the subject of cuckolding there is many variations of what people call cuckolding, i am open minded enough to accept and understand this, on the other hand, you have made it clear if its not your way then its not cuckolding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also others have also explained that there are many variations to it, so why you single me out for an argument i fail to understand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes its still cuckolding, in this day and age most do go into the humiliation and extreme side, which is why the common mistake made is thinking IT has to be part of it, it doesnt, the 1st part of cuckolding and the 1st sign of submissive is watching a man with a bigger cock satisfy your wife, that alone is been submissive and is the very beginning of cuckolding."

I don't think just watching in those circumstances makes it Cuck... It's not the acts themselves but the way they are received.

for instance some partners just enjoy the voyeurism... Doesn't make it a Cuckhold relationship.

It's very complex and so individual...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Cuckolding, what's that all about? As a black guy i get many offers from cuckold couples and the offers i get vary from the very mild to the criminally insane lol.

So what exactly is a cuck? and what enjoyment do they get from having a bull? All comments welcome and I expect there'll be a 1,000 different answers to this one lol

in effect you answered your own question...

there is a large spectrum of what could be defined as cuckold... from a simple mmf when the man watches... to the more extreme stuff...

i think too many people get stuck and tied up in trying to label everything.....

the 2nd part of your question is probably a lot more simple to answer... because whatever they are doing, because they enjoy it... it turns them on.....

its like trying to put a number on how many guys a woman has to have before she is called a "greedy woman".... by definition anymore then she has could be greedy... so could be 1... or 100...or 1000

"

But these labels are already out there ?

In this case each label is being used in an attempt to distinguish each swinging preference ?

Having read this thread it has left me feeling confused by some.

People can claim that they are this or that but it certainly doesn't indicate that they are using the correct definition.

Personally I would not see those that enjoying merely watching their wife with another, be that male, female or couple as cuckolding, I would see that as more voyeuristic behaviour.

Enjoying a large cock is something that many swingers do, are they on the verge of becoming cuckold ? many would challenge that.

The hotwife description is the only accurate definition that I have read here on this thread, but only if that doesn't include any humiliation.

I would agree that it's entirely possible that a couple could feel that they are a cuckold couple where the male watches silently and feeling humiliated by his wives actions. However I struggle, as the OP does, to see this activity any different to a swinging couple with a voyeur male.

Maybe I am getting this all about face but without the humiliation aspect to this surely it's just alternative ways that people swing ie their preferences.

OP interesting post fella, I suspect that those that are cuckold wouldn't see others that claim cuck as being so.

Personally I feel that the humiliation aspect is the correct difference, be that extreme or moderate

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over a year ago

People will call things what they want, they will change things to suit them, others will think there wrong for calling themselves that, things like these dont have 1 meaning and thats the end of it, there are many variations to most things, but like i said before cuckolding is one of those things that has many variations, these days its more common that the cuck be humiliated, verbally or other, but that isnt the be all and end all of it, simply having the humiliation of sitting watching another man with a bigger cock satisfying your wife in ways you cant is also a form of cuckolding as is knowing your wife is going to another mans house while you sit at home knowing what is going on, the main factor with anything to do with swinging is an open mind, what 1 person calls themselves may not be what you agree with but it doesnt mean it isnt what they say or its wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Cuckolding, what's that all about? As a black guy i get many offers from cuckold couples and the offers i get vary from the very mild to the criminally insane lol.

So what exactly is a cuck? and what enjoyment do they get from having a bull? All comments welcome and I expect there'll be a 1,000 different answers to this one lol

in effect you answered your own question...

there is a large spectrum of what could be defined as cuckold... from a simple mmf when the man watches... to the more extreme stuff...

i think too many people get stuck and tied up in trying to label everything.....

the 2nd part of your question is probably a lot more simple to answer... because whatever they are doing, because they enjoy it... it turns them on.....

its like trying to put a number on how many guys a woman has to have before she is called a "greedy woman".... by definition anymore then she has could be greedy... so could be 1... or 100...or 1000

But these labels are already out there ?

In this case each label is being used in an attempt to distinguish each swinging preference ?

Having read this thread it has left me feeling confused by some.

People can claim that they are this or that but it certainly doesn't indicate that they are using the correct definition.

Personally I would not see those that enjoying merely watching their wife with another, be that male, female or couple as cuckolding, I would see that as more voyeuristic behaviour.

Enjoying a large cock is something that many swingers do, are they on the verge of becoming cuckold ? many would challenge that.

The hotwife description is the only accurate definition that I have read here on this thread, but only if that doesn't include any humiliation.

I would agree that it's entirely possible that a couple could feel that they are a cuckold couple where the male watches silently and feeling humiliated by his wives actions. However I struggle, as the OP does, to see this activity any different to a swinging couple with a voyeur male.

Maybe I am getting this all about face but without the humiliation aspect to this surely it's just alternative ways that people swing ie their preferences.

OP interesting post fella, I suspect that those that are cuckold wouldn't see others that claim cuck as being so.

Personally I feel that the humiliation aspect is the correct difference, be that extreme or moderate

"

a swinging couple in this situation, the male would normally join in or direct the action or speak in some way through the action, with a cuckold couple he sits quiet in his own thoughts and the slight submissiveness of watching another man pleasure his wife in ways he cant, the thing is with it no matter which way you look at it, 1 person will explain it 1 way and another will explain it differently.

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over a year ago


"Cuckolding, what's that all about? As a black guy i get many offers from cuckold couples and the offers i get vary from the very mild to the criminally insane lol.

So what exactly is a cuck? and what enjoyment do they get from having a bull? All comments welcome and I expect there'll be a 1,000 different answers to this one lol

in effect you answered your own question...

there is a large spectrum of what could be defined as cuckold... from a simple mmf when the man watches... to the more extreme stuff...

i think too many people get stuck and tied up in trying to label everything.....

the 2nd part of your question is probably a lot more simple to answer... because whatever they are doing, because they enjoy it... it turns them on.....

its like trying to put a number on how many guys a woman has to have before she is called a "greedy woman".... by definition anymore then she has could be greedy... so could be 1... or 100...or 1000

But these labels are already out there ?

In this case each label is being used in an attempt to distinguish each swinging preference ?

Having read this thread it has left me feeling confused by some.

People can claim that they are this or that but it certainly doesn't indicate that they are using the correct definition.

Personally I would not see those that enjoying merely watching their wife with another, be that male, female or couple as cuckolding, I would see that as more voyeuristic behaviour.

Enjoying a large cock is something that many swingers do, are they on the verge of becoming cuckold ? many would challenge that.

The hotwife description is the only accurate definition that I have read here on this thread, but only if that doesn't include any humiliation.

I would agree that it's entirely possible that a couple could feel that they are a cuckold couple where the male watches silently and feeling humiliated by his wives actions. However I struggle, as the OP does, to see this activity any different to a swinging couple with a voyeur male.

Maybe I am getting this all about face but without the humiliation aspect to this surely it's just alternative ways that people swing ie their preferences.

OP interesting post fella, I suspect that those that are cuckold wouldn't see others that claim cuck as being so.

Personally I feel that the humiliation aspect is the correct difference, be that extreme or moderate

a swinging couple in this situation, the male would normally join in or direct the action or speak in some way through the action, with a cuckold couple he sits quiet in his own thoughts and the slight submissiveness of watching another man pleasure his wife in ways he cant, the thing is with it no matter which way you look at it, 1 person will explain it 1 way and another will explain it differently."

But in the same way that _abio rendered the greedy girl as obsolete, you have reduced the bull as just a cock.

What does the bull get from this, doesn't he have a roll, does that roll include knowing he has affected the cuck in a way that satisfies him ?

It is beginning to sound like the bull has only one duty, fuck the wife and ignore the partner ?

As you can see this subject is confusing me lol

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

But in the same way that _abio rendered the greedy girl as obsolete, you have reduced the bull as just a cock.

What does the bull get from this, doesn't he have a roll, does that roll include knowing he has affected the cuck in a way that satisfies him ?

It is beginning to sound like the bull has only one duty, fuck the wife and ignore the partner ?

As you can see this subject is confusing me lol

"

at what point did i ever render the greedy girl obsolete?

what I said is that anymore than one "could" be described by definition as being greedy....

so where do you do "label" someone as being greedy...2...3...5...10... 50 ect.

which is the point of it being a wide spectrum

same as cuckolding....

down one end of the spectrum you have a simple mmf where the man could be watching the wife playing with another....

down the other end is the extreme humiliation and abuse.......

it will mean different things to different people, what i am seeing from you and others is a keen-ness to disparage any other definitions that are not your own, and some trying to force your definition/label on others....

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over a year ago

Theres certainly a big attitude of, if its not what i say then its not cuckolding, in this thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

But in the same way that _abio rendered the greedy girl as obsolete, you have reduced the bull as just a cock.

What does the bull get from this, doesn't he have a role, does that role include knowing he has affected the cuck in a way that satisfies him ?

It is beginning to sound like the bull has only one duty, fuck the wife and ignore the partner ?

As you can see this subject is confusing me lol

at what point did i ever render the greedy girl obsolete?

what I said is that anymore than one "could" be described by definition as being greedy....

so where do you do "label" someone as being greedy...2...3...5...10... 50 ect.

which is the point of it being a wide spectrum

same as cuckolding....

down one end of the spectrum you have a simple mmf where the man could be watching the wife playing with another....

down the other end is the extreme humiliation and abuse.......

it will mean different things to different people, what i am seeing from you and others is a keen-ness to disparage any other definitions that are not your own, and some trying to force your definition/label on others....

"

Obsolete in that you suggest that every woman is a greedy girl. that is simply not the case. That isn't just my opinion, every couple/female that enjoys the attention of her partner and one other is completely different from those that expect the attentions of many males.

I wonder how many females would be happy with your label that all females that have more than they already have are no different from a female that intends to enjoy as many males as possible?

Their intentions are different, some would say, worlds apart.

If you put diesel in a petrol engine it is not going to run, no matter what you call it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theres certainly a big attitude of, if its not what i say then its not cuckolding, in this thread."

There has to be a difference between cuckolds, couples, bulls and the typical single male.

Do you really believe that a typical single male would be just as happy playing the bull without prior knowledge? Then on arrival to a meet agree to act as a bull, even with only a hint of humiliation involved ? Not for me. If that's the case, then all males are bulls, all couples are cuckolds and all females are greedy, that is just not so.

However if I turned up and the husband just wanted to watch ( a voyeur as I understand it) then I would be happy to. i.e the humiliation element distinguishes the clear difference between the two.

The bull must have an individual role that he is aware of and happy playing in. As in surely the bull would specifically seek a cuckold couple.

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

this thread is the reason we always question a guy who messages us asking to be our bull, we always ask what he thinks cuckolding is, what he wants from it etc.

its a term with such a wide range of interpretations the only basic you can assume is the wife is happy to have another man with her husbands knowledge and that's not even the original definition. Everything after that is up for grabs and discussion.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Obsolete in that you suggest that every woman is a greedy girl. that is simply not the case. That isn't just my opinion, every couple/female that enjoys the attention of her partner and one other is completely different from those that expect the attentions of many males.

I wonder how many females would be happy with your label that all females that have more than they already have are no different from a female that intends to enjoy as many males as possible?

Their intentions are different, some would say, worlds apart.

If you put diesel in a petrol engine it is not going to run, no matter what you call it."

1st you accuse me of making the greedy girl obsolete....

then you accuse me of calling every woman a greedy girl...

at least have the decency to have a position and stick to it, rather than floating in the wind to twist words

I am not sure of what part of "different ends of the spectrum" you are not understanding.....

for "some" a greedy woman may be more than just 1....

for "others" that number may be larger, lets say 5....or 10....maybe 20...heaven forbid 50... and up and up and up!!!

unless you are the arbitor of all things swinging now... that number may be individual to each and every person!!!

again... YOU are the one trying to put a definitive label of something that is going to mean different things to different people.....

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Theres certainly a big attitude of, if its not what i say then its not cuckolding, in this thread.

There has to be a difference between cuckolds, couples, bulls and the typical single male.

Do you really believe that a typical single male would be just as happy playing the bull without prior knowledge? Then on arrival to a meet agree to act as a bull, even with only a hint of humiliation involved ? Not for me. If that's the case, then all males are bulls, all couples are cuckolds and all females are greedy, that is just not so.

However if I turned up and the husband just wanted to watch ( a voyeur as I understand it) then I would be happy to. i.e the humiliation element distinguishes the clear difference between the two.

The bull must have an individual role that he is aware of and happy playing in. As in surely the bull would specifically seek a cuckold couple."

but again, you are talking about something that is the definition FOR YOU

what people are trying to say is that it may not be the same definition FOR OTHERS...

and that is the point that most people are trying to make..... listening and understanding...

you are being so rigid that you are dismissing and not listening to what anyone else because you are right and everyone else is wrong!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theres certainly a big attitude of, if its not what i say then its not cuckolding, in this thread.

There has to be a difference between cuckolds, couples, bulls and the typical single male.

Do you really believe that a typical single male would be just as happy playing the bull without prior knowledge? Then on arrival to a meet agree to act as a bull, even with only a hint of humiliation involved ? Not for me. If that's the case, then all males are bulls, all couples are cuckolds and all females are greedy, that is just not so.

However if I turned up and the husband just wanted to watch ( a voyeur as I understand it) then I would be happy to. i.e the humiliation element distinguishes the clear difference between the two.

The bull must have an individual role that he is aware of and happy playing in. As in surely the bull would specifically seek a cuckold couple.

but again, you are talking about something that is the definition FOR YOU

what people are trying to say is that it may not be the same definition FOR OTHERS...

and that is the point that most people are trying to make..... listening and understanding...

you are being so rigid that you are dismissing and not listening to what anyone else because you are right and everyone else is wrong!"

Rigid, Twisting words ?

According to your attitude all people are all things no matter what others thoughts, opinions may be.

It must be nice adopting an all encompassing demeanor, leaving YOU CORRECT at all times, Or perhaps anybody that disagrees with YOUR FLEXIBLE views, WRONG.

As with playing the bull 'it doesn't interest me', neither does this subject any longer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im sorry but where did i say the bull wouldnt no, what was happening, as with every meet it would be discussed, what i along with most others are explaining is, its different for everyone, there are many variations that can and will be defined as cuckolding, but i am open minded enough to accept that whereas you seem to think if its not what you say then its not cuckolding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im sorry but where did i say the bull wouldnt no, what was happening, as with every meet it would be discussed, what i along with most others are explaining is, its different for everyone, there are many variations that can and will be defined as cuckolding, but i am open minded enough to accept that whereas you seem to think if its not what you say then its not cuckolding."

At the risk of being seen as silly, bearing in mind my previous comment, no longer interested.

What about the bull ? you and _abio have both chosen too ignore this question.

Surely he has a role ?

What has been described here is the bull could simply meet with any couple.

He must have his own expectations and these must be different to a 1-2-1 meet with a wife where the partner simply watches. Any willing typical male could step into that role i.e a cuckold needs a bull not just any single male ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A bull is a male, so any man could be a bull, that would be discussed between the interested parties before any meet, the same way any meet would be discussed, if the male did not want to be a bull then they would find someone who did match what they are looking for, the same as when searching for any meet on here.

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Yes its still cuckolding, in this day and age most do go into the humiliation and extreme side, which is why the common mistake made is thinking IT has to be part of it, it doesnt, the 1st part of cuckolding and the 1st sign of submissive is watching a man with a bigger cock satisfy your wife, that alone is been submissive and is the very beginning of cuckolding.

I don't think just watching in those circumstances makes it Cuck... It's not the acts themselves but the way they are received.

for instance some partners just enjoy the voyeurism... Doesn't make it a Cuckhold relationship.

It's very complex and so individual... "

Great comment

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Having read this thread it has left me feeling confused by some.

People can claim that they are this or that but it certainly doesn't indicate that they are using the correct definition.

Personally I would not see those that enjoying merely watching their wife with another, be that male, female or couple as cuckolding, I would see that as more voyeuristic behaviour.

Enjoying a large cock is something that many swingers do, are they on the verge of becoming cuckold ? many would challenge that.

The hotwife description is the only accurate definition that I have read here on this thread, but only if that doesn't include any humiliation.

I would agree that it's entirely possible that a couple could feel that they are a cuckold couple where the male watches silently and feeling humiliated by his wives actions. However I struggle, as the OP does, to see this activity any different to a swinging couple with a voyeur male.

Maybe I am getting this all about face but without the humiliation aspect to this surely it's just alternative ways that people swing ie their preferences.

OP interesting post fella, I suspect that those that are cuckold wouldn't see others that claim cuck as being so.

Personally I feel that the humiliation aspect is the correct difference, be that extreme or moderate

"

Another great comment

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"A bull is a male, so any man could be a bull, that would be discussed between the interested parties before any meet, the same way any meet would be discussed, if the male did not want to be a bull then they would find someone who did match what they are looking for, the same as when searching for any meet on here."

To say, "a bull is a male, so any man could be a bull" just goes to show how little you understand the cuckold scene. Also, what makes you such an authority that you can tell others that have actually took part in the scene that they are wrong? afterall, by your own admission all you've done so far is read about it. Having been a bull many times i don't think it would suit any male, but maybe you should try it yourself? then you could see for yourself if you can still back up your above statement that any male can be a bull.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have not told anybody there wrong, i have agreed with what you have said, and simply stated (as have most others) that is many variations to it, aswell as what you beleive there are other sides to it, but you and the other guy are refusing to accept this, and are in the mindset that if its not what you say then its not right, you are actually trying to show authority by doing this, i have never stated that its 1 way or the other, i have said its both and more.

I will reiterate again that im not and never havesaid that what you say isnt cuckolding, because i agree it is, whatim saying is, there are more sides to it than you say/think, you may not call it cuckolding and others may not but many will, so you have no right to say this is cuckolding but what others believe it to be isnt.

I have played in the cuckold world and enjoyed the bits we have done, i have also spoke to many cuckold couples on here, on other sites and over a few drinks, so my knowledge and understanding comes from many different points of view, and any man can be a bull as long as its discussed beforehand the roles everyone involved been present at the time or not will take.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have not told anybody there wrong, i have agreed with what you have said, and simply stated (as have most others) that is many variations to it, aswell as what you beleive there are other sides to it, but you and the other guy are refusing to accept this, and are in the mindset that if its not what you say then its not right, you are actually trying to show authority by doing this, i have never stated that its 1 way or the other, i have said its both and more.

I will reiterate again that im not and never havesaid that what you say isnt cuckolding, because i agree it is, whatim saying is, there are more sides to it than you say/think, you may not call it cuckolding and others may not but many will, so you have no right to say this is cuckolding but what others believe it to be isnt.

I have played in the cuckold world and enjoyed the bits we have done, i have also spoke to many cuckold couples on here, on other sites and over a few drinks, so my knowledge and understanding comes from many different points of view, and any man can be a bull as long as its discussed beforehand the roles everyone involved been present at the time or not will take."

How likely would it be for two cuckold couples meeting in a play situation i.e both males at any one time become the bull ?

Equally would both females accept this hypothetical scenario ?

Would one having a smaller cock than the other create any confusion ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont no, i also dont no what that has to do with what ive said on this thread.

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

Firstly, if you read the thread from the beginning you will find that most people disagree with you and believe there has to be a humiliation aspect involved to make it cuckolding, so you are in the minority not me. Secondly i've never said i'm right, i've only stated my opinion as i have said many times on this thread, and as a former bull i would hope my experiences would be helpful in making others aware of what cuckolding in my opinion can be. I have said it before and i will say it again, i have no problem with you disagreeing with me on the subject, thats what happens on these forums, but i do have a problem with you making personal references about what i think and say and so can you just deal with the subject alone and let's move on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But thats my whole point, im not disagreeing with you i never have, i have agreed with what you say is cuckolding, and like most others have said the subject has many variations, there isnt 1 single thing that makes cuckolding, and as i stated earlier, the slight humiliation that exists in the lighter side of cuckolding is the little feeling of humiliation of watching your wife satisfied by the bull.

What i dont like or agree with is the attitude that you and 1 other have shown on this thread, which is that of "if it doesnt include what i say then its notcuckolding".

If you take a bit more time to research a subject you claim to be so sure about, you will find that alot of couples cuckold in this way and are happy with it, equaly lots if couples cuckold with lots of verbal humiliation and duties.

My point from my 1st post on here has been that cuckolding doesnt HAVE to include all the extreme stuff but sometimes it will, but from my 1st post you have kept stating if its not your way its not cuckolding, the key to swinging is an open mind, you havent shown that in this post.

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

FFS i've held out an olive branch but you won't have it will you? Look, you have your view and you're entitled to it, now can we move on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just agree to disagree folks.

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Just agree to disagree folks. "

I agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I saw no olive branch, and once again i will state im not and disagreed with anyone so how can i agree to disagree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"FFS i've held out an olive branch but you won't have it will you? Look, you have your view and you're entitled to it, now can we move on? "

you also have your view and are also entitled to it.

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By *hrisBlkGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"you also have your view and are also entitled to it."

That's good, thank you. Now let's allow others to contribute their views on this topic

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By *otswoldMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

There is pleasure in giving as well as in receiving. On the those occasions I have been one half of a dogging couple my job has included filtering candidates, making sure that the selected guys stay within her limits, condom checking and, effectively being her minder. Quite a lot of potential job satisfaction and when it all goes well and hence it can be something of an ego trip. The same applies if the lady wants a gang bang at a club. If that is not one variation of cucking then I don’t know what else to call it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Within cuckolding it would appear that bareback sex is a more openly discussed/sought after activity.

Does this mean that the desire to subjugate/humiliate the male is so strong that risks are seen as acceptable/understandable by others here within cuckolding ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"you also have your view and are also entitled to it.

That's good, thank you. Now let's allow others to contribute their views on this topic"

cant see where ive stopped others contributing lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Within cuckolding it would appear that bareback sex is a more openly discussed/sought after activity.

Does this mean that the desire to subjugate/humiliate the male is so strong that risks are seen as acceptable/understandable by others here within cuckolding ?"

this is one side of cuckolding, but i would say that this happens with a known and trusted bull rather than a 1st time bull.

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