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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I have decided to hire a nutritionist because I want the dry chiseled look, is a nutritionist really worth it? I looked on some sites that help you measure your B.M.I, age, weight and height to determine how much carbohydrates, protein and water you need everyday but the number crunching is very hard to work out.

I hear some people say its not worth it but then again that is only if you don't stick to the plan. I have seen some people get great results in just 2-4 weeks...any thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should it not be a personal trainer instead then?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Should it not be a personal trainer instead then? "

No from what I've learnt health and fitness is 70% what you eat(nutritional meals) and 30% exercise routines so one could workout endless hours and get no result if one does not have a proper nutritional diet.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

if you can afford it and its what you want to do then go ahead. Could you find the information you require on the net or in a book though?

I know nothing about this because I'd sooner have my ears smeared with jam and be tied to an anthill than hire a nutritionist or a personal trainer. I admire your determination

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should it not be a personal trainer instead then?

No from what I've learnt health and fitness is 70% what you eat(nutritional meals) and 30% exercise routines so one could workout endless hours and get no result if one does not have a proper nutritional diet. "

They all say that

Exercise is important

Diet is also important

Do you work out at the moment?

The look you want won't work if you don't have any muscle to show

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"if you can afford it and its what you want to do then go ahead. Could you find the information you require on the net or in a book though?

I know nothing about this because I'd sooner have my ears smeared with jam and be tied to an anthill than hire a nutritionist or a personal trainer. I admire your determination

"

Thank you, I am doing this for myself but also to prove to women they are wrong about a guy like me...and if I can help it, to help others on my journey.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Should it not be a personal trainer instead then?

No from what I've learnt health and fitness is 70% what you eat(nutritional meals) and 30% exercise routines so one could workout endless hours and get no result if one does not have a proper nutritional diet.

They all say that

Exercise is important

Diet is also important

Do you work out at the moment?

The look you want won't work if you don't have any muscle to show"

In my teens I was swimming, doing sit ups, dumbbells and push ups, in my early 20s I worked as a mason and recently I have gone back to swimming but also ill be working on a timetable for my fitness routine for gym so yes I have muscle, I just need to make them bigger then tone, all the while consulting my nutritionist as my B.M.I changes.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"if you can afford it and its what you want to do then go ahead. Could you find the information you require on the net or in a book though?

I know nothing about this because I'd sooner have my ears smeared with jam and be tied to an anthill than hire a nutritionist or a personal trainer. I admire your determination

Thank you, I am doing this for myself but also to prove to women they are wrong about a guy like me...and if I can help it, to help others on my journey. "

What is it that you want women proved wrong about?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should it not be a personal trainer instead then?

No from what I've learnt health and fitness is 70% what you eat(nutritional meals) and 30% exercise routines so one could workout endless hours and get no result if one does not have a proper nutritional diet.

They all say that

Exercise is important

Diet is also important

Do you work out at the moment?

The look you want won't work if you don't have any muscle to show

In my teens I was swimming, doing sit ups, dumbbells and push ups, in my early 20s I worked as a mason and recently I have gone back to swimming but also ill be working on a timetable for my fitness routine for gym so yes I have muscle, I just need to make them bigger then tone, all the while consulting my nutritionist as my B.M.I changes. "

Sounds good

If you want bigger muscles though, then you are gonna have to do mostly weight training.

You can do the nutrition part yourself (save you a lot of money) but its really up to you

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By *eekenderzCouple
over a year ago

London

Hi thehulk69!

Try this, it's free and it really works to keep a food diary if you want to shed some weight:

https://tracker.dailyburn.com/

You don't need a nutritionist. Just eat more protein and less carbs, and don't drink alcohol, and avoid snacking. You will see real results within 6 weeks. Be patient.

Good luck!

Mrs W

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you want bigger muscles though, then you are gonna have to do mostly weight training."

Thankyou, I got tired of reading things like '70% nutrition 30% weight training' BS when I used to waste my time on bodybuilding websites. If you don't focus on getting stronger in the gym then you're wasting your time - and no, all that hard work isn't rendered null and void by not eating a precision diet, OPTIMISED perhaps, but get crap like over reliance on diet and supplements out of your head, its all cooked up by the supplement companies looking to get some easy cash out of you.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Get a beer, some crisps and cake, put your feet up on a sofa and read 'Mens Health' magazine. I did that once and it was most enjoyable.

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh


"Get a beer, some crisps and cake, put your feet up on a sofa and read 'Mens Health' magazine. I did that once and it was most enjoyable. "

Add a pork pie, fags and a bottle of whisky and i am right with you!

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

My friend is a personal trainer. She looks amazing and hasn't an ounce of fat on her! She's a self confessed junk food addict tho and rarely eats healthy. So her look is achieved thru exercise alone!! So yes as the others say a decent diet will help but isn't the be all and end all!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My friend is a personal trainer. She looks amazing and hasn't an ounce of fat on her! She's a self confessed junk food addict tho and rarely eats healthy. So her look is achieved thru exercise alone!!"

Its also easy to forget that genetics play a huge part though, some people just don't store fat and have a metabolism like a furnace, meaning they can eat pretty much anything without gaining an ounce.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you want bigger muscles though, then you are gonna have to do mostly weight training.

Thankyou, I got tired of reading things like '70% nutrition 30% weight training' BS when I used to waste my time on bodybuilding websites. If you don't focus on getting stronger in the gym then you're wasting your time - and no, all that hard work isn't rendered null and void by not eating a precision diet, OPTIMISED perhaps, but get crap like over reliance on diet and supplements out of your head, its all cooked up by the supplement companies looking to get some easy cash out of you."

Agreed

Weight training is very simple, hard work, but simple.

People over complicate things.

Train hard

Eat well

Rest

That's it

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent


"My friend is a personal trainer. She looks amazing and hasn't an ounce of fat on her! She's a self confessed junk food addict tho and rarely eats healthy. So her look is achieved thru exercise alone!!

Its also easy to forget that genetics play a huge part though, some people just don't store fat and have a metabolism like a furnace, meaning they can eat pretty much anything without gaining an ounce."

Yes this must definitely be a part of it for her although she does teach around 10 hours of high intensity aerobics as well as her PT sessions in the gym so she must burn off a hell of a lot. I've seen her eat as well. It's shocking!! Lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

To have a balanced metabolism, you must take in the right amount of carbs, protein and water each day, 2-3 hours in the gym is enough for a week.

If you over exercise and eat junk, your metabolism will become unbalanced and you will start to gain rather then loose weight.

I will let you guys know how I get on and throw up some pictures on here.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Hi thehulk69!

Try this, it's free and it really works to keep a food diary if you want to shed some weight:

https://tracker.dailyburn.com/

You don't need a nutritionist. Just eat more protein and less carbs, and don't drink alcohol, and avoid snacking. You will see real results within 6 weeks. Be patient.

Good luck!

Mrs W

"

My metabolism is high anyway, im fit just not toned, I did hear that from a gym buddy but he is like a balloon today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have decided to hire a nutritionist because I want the dry chiseled look, is a nutritionist really worth it? I looked on some sites that help you measure your B.M.I, age, weight and height to determine how much carbohydrates, protein and water you need everyday but the number crunching is very hard to work out.

I hear some people say its not worth it but then again that is only if you don't stick to the plan. I have seen some people get great results in just 2-4 weeks...any thoughts?

"

If your planning on cutting (which I'm currently doing myself), and then you want to bulk, prepare for a hell of a lot longer than 2 to 4 weeks.

Forget the nutritionalist. To cut, reduce calories by a 500 deficit daily. Cut out:

Booze, junk food, diet drinks, bad carbs. Etc

Drink lots of water, eat around 30g of protein with each meal, eat good carbs, wholegrains, vegetables, limit fruits. Eat 6 meals around 300cals around every 3 hours. Eat good sources of fat!

Do lots of cardio, HIIT training is best for fat burning. Lift weights within the 8-12 rep range for hypertrophy.

For bulking, cut cardio down to maintain muscle, whilst retaining fitness. Lift weights in same manner, always increasing, and making gains.

This is it in a nutshell. Check out cutting diets or bulking diets on line, if you can't work out the figures, the are many online calculators.

Nutritionist not required

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is there anything you can do for a slow metabolism?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is there anything you can do for a slow metabolism?"

Minimal things: drink ice cold water, eat fresh chilli's, caffeine. Eat breakfast. Eat smaller meals more frequently to keep the body burning, and to prevent spikes in sugar levels, and to prevent the body from going into fat storage, starvation mode.

Aerobic exercise only burns the calories whilst your doing the activity on the whole. Weight training provides an after burn effect to ramp it up. And by building more muscle your body will naturally have to work harder to feed them, resulting in more calories burnt

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

Protein shakes are meant to be good too. Ask at your local gym and health food shop to help.

High protein and low fat diet, exercise, more weights.

Your instructor at the gym should be able to help out or there should be plenty information online. A nutritionist may just be a waste of money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Protein shakes are meant to be good too. Ask at your local gym and health food shop to help.

High protein and low fat diet, exercise, more weights.

Your instructor at the gym should be able to help out or there should be plenty information online. A nutritionist may just be a waste of money."

Quite a few people substitute protein shakes for a proper meal, resulting in a lack of essential vitamins and minerals. I would save the shakes for your bulking phase when you want to be taking 1 to 1.5g according to body weight. Great for bulking or after a workout for quick digestion though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is there anything you can do for a slow metabolism?

Minimal things: drink ice cold water, eat fresh chilli's, caffeine. Eat breakfast. Eat smaller meals more frequently to keep the body burning, and to prevent spikes in sugar levels, and to prevent the body from going into fat storage, starvation mode.

Aerobic exercise only burns the calories whilst your doing the activity on the whole. Weight training provides an after burn effect to ramp it up. And by building more muscle your body will naturally have to work harder to feed them, resulting in more calories burnt"

I already do all of the above but really struggling to loose weight!

I eat 5 small meals, I train with weights and do lots of cardio ( I have built up the muscle) i drink loads of water, I mix up my excersise from walking/running/stepper/tennis/biking.

Ive even tried to fad diets which do work and loose a few pound but as soon as I go back to the 5 small meals it goes back on!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is there anything you can do for a slow metabolism?

Minimal things: drink ice cold water, eat fresh chilli's, caffeine. Eat breakfast. Eat smaller meals more frequently to keep the body burning, and to prevent spikes in sugar levels, and to prevent the body from going into fat storage, starvation mode.

Aerobic exercise only burns the calories whilst your doing the activity on the whole. Weight training provides an after burn effect to ramp it up. And by building more muscle your body will naturally have to work harder to feed them, resulting in more calories burnt

I already do all of the above but really struggling to loose weight!

I eat 5 small meals, I train with weights and do lots of cardio ( I have built up the muscle) i drink loads of water, I mix up my excersise from walking/running/stepper/tennis/biking.

Ive even tried to fad diets which do work and loose a few pound but as soon as I go back to the 5 small meals it goes back on!"

It sounds like you've hit a plateau, as you seem to be doing everything right. Without knowing what your eating, you may have to tweak your calorie deficit. And alter your workouts. Are you performing steady state cardio, try boosting it with high intensity interval training, at least read up on it, to check it's suitability for you. Carbs rotation days may be also benefit you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is there anything you can do for a slow metabolism?

Minimal things: drink ice cold water, eat fresh chilli's, caffeine. Eat breakfast. Eat smaller meals more frequently to keep the body burning, and to prevent spikes in sugar levels, and to prevent the body from going into fat storage, starvation mode.

Aerobic exercise only burns the calories whilst your doing the activity on the whole. Weight training provides an after burn effect to ramp it up. And by building more muscle your body will naturally have to work harder to feed them, resulting in more calories burnt

I already do all of the above but really struggling to loose weight!

I eat 5 small meals, I train with weights and do lots of cardio ( I have built up the muscle) i drink loads of water, I mix up my excersise from walking/running/stepper/tennis/biking.

Ive even tried to fad diets which do work and loose a few pound but as soon as I go back to the 5 small meals it goes back on!

It sounds like you've hit a plateau, as you seem to be doing everything right. Without knowing what your eating, you may have to tweak your calorie deficit. And alter your workouts. Are you performing steady state cardio, try boosting it with high intensity interval training, at least read up on it, to check it's suitability for you. Carbs rotation days may be also benefit you. "

Its the typical gym healthy eating I do, egg whites/brown toast, chicken/fish/turkey with either salad/potatoes ( mashed with no butter or milk) veg/rice. I have a fat day on a saturday where I eat more or less what I want, I rarley drink alcohol or eat chocolate. Cardio... tried long walks, short bursts, heart rate is usually always bursting!

Just trying a new fitness at gym, I think its called the cube, its a frame with all attachments on and you move from one to the other 15 seconds on 5 seconds off for 30 minutes.... will see how that goes!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is there anything you can do for a slow metabolism?

Minimal things: drink ice cold water, eat fresh chilli's, caffeine. Eat breakfast. Eat smaller meals more frequently to keep the body burning, and to prevent spikes in sugar levels, and to prevent the body from going into fat storage, starvation mode.

Aerobic exercise only burns the calories whilst your doing the activity on the whole. Weight training provides an after burn effect to ramp it up. And by building more muscle your body will naturally have to work harder to feed them, resulting in more calories burnt

I already do all of the above but really struggling to loose weight!

I eat 5 small meals, I train with weights and do lots of cardio ( I have built up the muscle) i drink loads of water, I mix up my excersise from walking/running/stepper/tennis/biking.

Ive even tried to fad diets which do work and loose a few pound but as soon as I go back to the 5 small meals it goes back on!

It sounds like you've hit a plateau, as you seem to be doing everything right. Without knowing what your eating, you may have to tweak your calorie deficit. And alter your workouts. Are you performing steady state cardio, try boosting it with high intensity interval training, at least read up on it, to check it's suitability for you. Carbs rotation days may be also benefit you.

Its the typical gym healthy eating I do, egg whites/brown toast, chicken/fish/turkey with either salad/potatoes ( mashed with no butter or milk) veg/rice. I have a fat day on a saturday where I eat more or less what I want, I rarley drink alcohol or eat chocolate. Cardio... tried long walks, short bursts, heart rate is usually always bursting!

Just trying a new fitness at gym, I think its called the cube, its a frame with all attachments on and you move from one to the other 15 seconds on 5 seconds off for 30 minutes.... will see how that goes!"

Ok two examples just from the short list there, ditch the toast and the potatoes, although the whole meal version is healthier than processed white crap, the spuds could be substituted for sweet potatoes.

And if you cut out your cheat day, that would make a difference, I know life is for living, and ya gotta have some enjoyment, especially if being strict. But a cheat day shouldn't be eat as much of what you want, a cheat meal would be better.

All depends how determined ya are. And how bad you want to reach ya goals

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is there anything you can do for a slow metabolism?

Minimal things: drink ice cold water, eat fresh chilli's, caffeine. Eat breakfast. Eat smaller meals more frequently to keep the body burning, and to prevent spikes in sugar levels, and to prevent the body from going into fat storage, starvation mode.

Aerobic exercise only burns the calories whilst your doing the activity on the whole. Weight training provides an after burn effect to ramp it up. And by building more muscle your body will naturally have to work harder to feed them, resulting in more calories burnt

I already do all of the above but really struggling to loose weight!

I eat 5 small meals, I train with weights and do lots of cardio ( I have built up the muscle) i drink loads of water, I mix up my excersise from walking/running/stepper/tennis/biking.

Ive even tried to fad diets which do work and loose a few pound but as soon as I go back to the 5 small meals it goes back on!

It sounds like you've hit a plateau, as you seem to be doing everything right. Without knowing what your eating, you may have to tweak your calorie deficit. And alter your workouts. Are you performing steady state cardio, try boosting it with high intensity interval training, at least read up on it, to check it's suitability for you. Carbs rotation days may be also benefit you.

Its the typical gym healthy eating I do, egg whites/brown toast, chicken/fish/turkey with either salad/potatoes ( mashed with no butter or milk) veg/rice. I have a fat day on a saturday where I eat more or less what I want, I rarley drink alcohol or eat chocolate. Cardio... tried long walks, short bursts, heart rate is usually always bursting!

Just trying a new fitness at gym, I think its called the cube, its a frame with all attachments on and you move from one to the other 15 seconds on 5 seconds off for 30 minutes.... will see how that goes!

Ok two examples just from the short list there, ditch the toast and the potatoes, although the whole meal version is healthier than processed white crap, the spuds could be substituted for sweet potatoes.

And if you cut out your cheat day, that would make a difference, I know life is for living, and ya gotta have some enjoyment, especially if being strict. But a cheat day shouldn't be eat as much of what you want, a cheat meal would be better.

All depends how determined ya are. And how bad you want to reach ya goals "

Thanks for your help x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Blimey I feel fitter and slimmer already just from reading all this!

I wish I had just 1% of your will power

How do you get your mindset set up for what seems like a really tough regime?

I'm big and need to get fit but it just seems such a huge life change

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Blimey I feel fitter and slimmer already just from reading all this!

I wish I had just 1% of your will power

How do you get your mindset set up for what seems like a really tough regime?

I'm big and need to get fit but it just seems such a huge life change"

If your starting from scratch then the best advice is to implement subtle and small changes gradually, it will be less of a shock to the system, which can lead to failure if too much is taken on with regards to diet, cardio and resistance training.

You're right though, you must be focused, write down all the reasons you want to change and achieve your goals.

Another great tip is to forget about the scales too often. Use the mirror, how well your clothes fit, and of course the compliments you receive from others to spur you on to your aims. At the beginning you should make good losses, let that also encourage yourself.

Find a training buddy, perform exercise that you enjoy the most, but keep it varied as possible to obtain fitness from different angles, and to prevent plateaus.

Know from the outset that this is not temporary, but a new you, and new way of life. Give yourself time for your mind and body to adjust. And if you falter or slip, don't beat yourself up about it, just make sure you recognise what and why it happened, so that you can beat it the next time.

Good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks genuine guy, this is good stuff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thanks genuine guy, this is good stuff"

Your welcome mate. If ya want any more advice let me know.

Go for it pal and you can do it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should it not be a personal trainer instead then?

No from what I've learnt health and fitness is 70% what you eat(nutritional meals) and 30% exercise routines so one could workout endless hours and get no result if one does not have a proper nutritional diet.

They all say that

Exercise is important

Diet is also important

Do you work out at the moment?

The look you want won't work if you don't have any muscle to show

In my teens I was swimming, doing sit ups, dumbbells and push ups, in my early 20s I worked as a mason and recently I have gone back to swimming but also ill be working on a timetable for my fitness routine for gym so yes I have muscle, I just need to make them bigger then tone, all the while consulting my nutritionist as my B.M.I changes. "

I wouldn't get too strung up on BMI personally, it can be grossly inaccurate, as lean muscle is not differentiated between body fat percentage. Body fat is a much more accurate way of knowing where your at. Any gym should have a set of body fat calipers, although they can show false readings dependent in who's using them, and measurement points etc. But it provides better info in general

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Ive gotten better advice on here then at my local gym, thank you for the advice, it is much appreciated and besides got to look good for the ladies.

One day for some lucky women I will hide in a giant cake with nothing but a male G string and sailors hat, then burst out of it and make her cum in her pants...

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