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"As journalists always do they found a bad example of a man coercing his ex wife into sleeping with other men. Whilst that example was awful you just have to hope that most of us are here as consenting adults " Think you missed the point, not so much about the actual story, but their efforts to access the lifestyle to try & find something to be sensationalised, all the couples they spoke to at the social were long term married couples & not in a niche or hot wife scenario - but I suppose thats not sordid enough to warrant a prime time spot | |||
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"Every time I see the news article, or a thread on here about this story, I feel absolute sympathy for Ruth. I understand how over time her spirit, strength and self-confidence was quashed and destroyed by her vile husband. And the article refers to her mental health crisis which I imagine contributed to the husband's ability to manipulate and control her. At the same time I get so angry about the one sided references to Fab. It's telling when acknowledging that a significant number of women not only determine the dynamic and lead the play, but flourish in this lifestyle, is seen as not worthy of reporting. If I thought the journalist actually had any interest in reporting the positive experiences I would contact her to put her straight...." Well said! 👏🏽 | |||
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"I’ve never had any response to a report I’ve submitted, no safeguarding checks or contact and I don’t know anyone that has. It seems some people are against the site being held to any culpability or a level of responsibility and I’m not sure if that’s due to historical judgement of the lifestyle and how its presented but the site was used to organise the meets, reports of abuse made and no action taken so to not mention this in the article would be poor journalism. I don’t see anything wrong in websites checking themselves and identifying areas they can improve." The site only creates the opportunity for people to communicate with each other. Meeting is a mutual choice. Fab is no different than any other contact websites/apps but because it has swingers in the domain name it’s treated as being seedy. While coercion is a heinous crime, it is difficult to tell whether someone is victim to it if they appear enthusiastic. There are certain scenarios that I see described on fab that I wouldn’t go anywhere near, eg. Blindfolded, no conversation, etc. However, if they appear enthusiastic how is anyone supposed to know what their real dynamic is? | |||
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"Absolutely fuming, anyone else see the damning report on the BBC last night about the lifestyle & specifically this site? Which can now be viewed on YouTube! OMFG every now & then one of these so called journalists decide to try & out us all, weather its flying a drone over the Swingathon event last year or in this case, gate crashing an organised social event in the guise of a newbie couple attending their first social! Along with some of our friends attending the social, we actually spoke to this so called undercover reporter & her make believe partner & very quickly became suspicious of them, not just because of the amount of questions they were asking but also their general demeanor & lack of actual spark between each other, no nerves nor excitement between them & generally seeming more like work colleagues than a genuine couple wishing to start their lifestyle journey- my husband having a military background is very assute & clocked something was off & actually asked them outright if they were journalists- obviously they denied it, & continued around the venue chatting to a few other couples whom we knew really well, my husband listened in as they just weren't right & after keeping a close eye on them gave a heads up warning to to the social organiser, who in all fairness had pretty quickly come to the same conclusion. After about 30 mins of chatting to around 4 out of the 50 or so couples that had attended they left But really was no surprise to see the female of this couple as the actual presenter of the BBC report! So once again the witch hunt into our lifestyle choices begins again, theres quite a few people that dont mind being outted, but many more that find the thought of our lifestyle journeys being brought into the public domain horrendous & the devastating effects it would have to our vanilla lifes- Although our lifestyle is more open & to a certain degree excepted more by the mainstream, it still has a stigma that we're all wrongens attached to it to be hunted outed & vilified- so once more be vigilant to newbies,strangers & those with no verifications both on & off this site & don't let small minded people like these spoil your fun or try & ruin your life All you are concerned about is your own fun. What about the poor victim here? | |||
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"Absolutely fuming, anyone else see the damning report on the BBC last night about the lifestyle & specifically this site? Which can now be viewed on YouTube! OMFG every now & then one of these so called journalists decide to try & out us all, weather its flying a drone over the Swingathon event last year or in this case, gate crashing an organised social event in the guise of a newbie couple attending their first social! Along with some of our friends attending the social, we actually spoke to this so called undercover reporter & her make believe partner & very quickly became suspicious of them, not just because of the amount of questions they were asking but also their general demeanor & lack of actual spark between each other, no nerves nor excitement between them & generally seeming more like work colleagues than a genuine couple wishing to start their lifestyle journey- my husband having a military background is very assute & clocked something was off & actually asked them outright if they were journalists- obviously they denied it, & continued around the venue chatting to a few other couples whom we knew really well, my husband listened in as they just weren't right & after keeping a close eye on them gave a heads up warning to to the social organiser, who in all fairness had pretty quickly come to the same conclusion. After about 30 mins of chatting to around 4 out of the 50 or so couples that had attended they left But really was no surprise to see the female of this couple as the actual presenter of the BBC report! So once again the witch hunt into our lifestyle choices begins again, theres quite a few people that dont mind being outted, but many more that find the thought of our lifestyle journeys being brought into the public domain horrendous & the devastating effects it would have to our vanilla lifes- Although our lifestyle is more open & to a certain degree excepted more by the mainstream, it still has a stigma that we're all wrongens attached to it to be hunted outed & vilified- so once more be vigilant to newbies,strangers & those with no verifications both on & off this site & don't let small minded people like these spoil your fun or try & ruin your life Maybe if you read our post again you will realise it is targeted at the gutter press infiltrating a social event and trying to expose genuine, consenting couples and lifestylers..it is definitely not aimed at anyone else. Our concern is always for the privacy and discretion that most of us want...this journalist spoke to numerous consenting people who love the lifestyle and gave her a very positive perspective... but she failed to mention any of that in her report ...obviously it didn't fit the narrative. You've only been on here 9 weeks so I'm sure at some point you will be targeted by fakes and dreamers along the way and then you'll maybe understand what our post is actually about. It has absolutely nothing to do with spoiling our own fun...we have plenty of it thankyou lol | |||
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"Quite surprising of the ultra left wing BBC - I thought lefties were supposed to be liberal so there's no reason the BBC should be slighting any lifestyles. Oh, that's right - hypocrisy. Yeh, that rings true...." The ultra left BBC? Yeh okay🤣 | |||
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"I've just posted a comment on a similar thread running in "The Lounge" nobody knows more than I do about the BBC twisting the truth. Whether you like him or not, Donald Trump has the right idea for the BBC who we as television license payers are ultimately paying their wages to listen to their false statements. " The more stories I hear that come out of them, the more I think they are a Satanic organisation. All that moral high ground bs is a front, for their demonic activities behind the scenes and sublimely. | |||
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"Mote and Beam I’m not saying all BBC employees are fond of children, but I imagine the percentage of offenders is much higher than the percentage of fab offenders They should be investigating situations where coercion happens. But equally, if there is nothing to report, they should not expose people unnecessarily " So because worse crime is happening this one is irrelevant and should be ignored? You can shine a light on two stories at once. They are not exposing people. They are reporting on a story, and given facts. It happened on here. I don’t understand that mentality, they’re not showing people’s profiles with their badge id number at work. A crime happened, in the same way if a burglary happens at Tesco, they report it happened at Tesco…. | |||
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"Is it just too uncomfortable for men when a very public mirror is held up to their behaviour?" If it was done by a media outlet that was free from the same abuse they are exposing fine. Unfortunately the BBC aren't a suitable media source considering their past, complete with cover ups mysterious deaths ( the tops girl) Channel 4 and 5 would have done a better job. | |||
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"As journalists always do they found a bad example of a man coercing his ex wife into sleeping with other men. Whilst that example was awful you just have to hope that most of us are here as consenting adults Think you missed the point, not so much about the actual story, but their efforts to access the lifestyle to try & find something to be sensationalised, all the couples they spoke to at the social were long term married couples & not in a niche or hot wife scenario - but I suppose thats not sordid enough to warrant a prime time spot Oooh, that's lectured you. | |||
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"It isn’t a stretch though is it!? While not fabs fault, how many forum posts have you seen that are ‘sharing wife’s pics’ ‘anyone sharing pics of wife’ or ‘talk about wife’. How many of you have done that. As a woman when I see those posts i often wonder if she knows. How many posts of ‘when working in someone’s house do you go looking for dirty knickers’ or ‘I wank into wives dirty undies she doesn’t know’. Unfortunately, bbc has held up a mirror to men’s shitty behaviour. Most men only respect boundaries and consent if it is what they were gonna do anyway. " as a guy I also wonder if the wife/gf knows. How on earth those blokes get a meet I don't know. I'd also suggest to the ladies that before they meet someone they check out the guys forum posts to see what sort of person they are. | |||
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"Mote and Beam I’m not saying all BBC employees are fond of children, but I imagine the percentage of offenders is much higher than the percentage of fab offenders They should be investigating situations where coercion happens. But equally, if there is nothing to report, they should not expose people unnecessarily So because worse crime is happening this one is irrelevant and should be ignored? You can shine a light on two stories at once. They are not exposing people. They are reporting on a story, and given facts. It happened on here. I don’t understand that mentality, they’re not showing people’s profiles with their badge id number at work. A crime happened, in the same way if a burglary happens at Tesco, they report it happened at Tesco…. " So true. If a crime occurs anywhere it should be reported. And it will hopefully lead to better awareness and hopefully encourages places like fab to look at ways to stop it. Which is better for all of us…other than the predators! | |||
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"I'm speaking out here honestly and openly. I have been accused recently of 'coercing' my ex into having a 3 sum. I had been with her for a while and was always honest and open about my sex life and swinging. She always said that she would love to try it. We stayed in a hotel with the sole purpose of trying to arrange a 3 sum. Unfortunately it didn't happen. A few months later after numerous chats about swinging and again always being honest and open. I asked her if she wanted a threesome to which she agreed. We were very lucky as a male who I had known previously was quite local. So I arranged it. Everything was fine absolutely no issues and we had a great time and she was treated very respectfully. We end up splitting up a few months later. 9 months later she has said that I coerced her into it. I absolutely deny it as over a long period of times we discussed it openly many many times and she was always on board. Not once did she ever say anything negative about the experience. Yet here I am under investigation. I fail to see what more I could have done and given the fact that she was always willing and not once did I ever have to convince her. " Ah well, at least you've found another woman to swing with | |||
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"This is a status update posted on here earlier today and still live after five hours: 'Time to reclaim slut and have her serve her punishment for wanting to stop Did you report it? | |||
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"This is a status update posted on here earlier today and still live after five hours: 'Time to reclaim slut and have her serve her punishment for wanting to stop No. I have made several reports of profiles and photos in the past and nothing ever happens. | |||
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"Negative publicity is a publicity - it reminded me of the case that happened in France last year and husband was found guilty as he almost dr u g e d his wife, invited 40 men to fuck her. During trial their daughters were present and it was a horrible experience for them. So yes, while married you think you got a consent- but once the marriage is over - anything can happen, previously consent can now be called out as manipulation" He didn't 'almost' drug her he consistently and deliberately did over many years | |||
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"Negative publicity is a publicity - it reminded me of the case that happened in France last year and husband was found guilty as he almost dr u g e d his wife, invited 40 men to fuck her. During trial their daughters were present and it was a horrible experience for them. So yes, while married you think you got a consent- but once the marriage is over - anything can happen, previously consent can now be called out as manipulation" One of the accounts who contacted me said his wife was still d*unk in bed and wanted me to go over and fuck her and he'd film it, said he'd blindfold her so she wouldn't know it wasn't him (surely a woman can tell?). Thats non-consensual sex as far as I'm concerned. I was about to report the account but then it was no longer active | |||
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"...So yes, while married you think you got a consent- but once the marriage is over - anything can happen, previously consent can now be called out as manipulation" This used to be the case but the law changed and marriage does not now automatically create consent. Which is exactly how it should be. | |||
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"There were a couple of other threads about this, and some commented that there could be an influx of new members either guys looking to get thier wife someone to have sex with her, or possibly journalists looking for stories to print. Strange coincidence that in the past 24hrs I had two new contacts, both single male profiles, both only joined in the last few days, both saying they were looking for someone to fuck thier wife and both saying along the lines of..."she doesnt know about this but we have talked about doing something like this." Now my luck isnt that good to get two offers in a single day, so the suspicious part of me wonders if they are guys who read the original news article and thought they'd try thier luck. " Hmm we got a message on weekend from a young couple based in Salford, hadn’t pit two and two together at the time. Was a strange message from a couple so we didn’t reply but now I’m wondering whether it may have been a reporter type | |||
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