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"Who's got time to always be available for sex? ![]() you have to make time. if possible. | |||
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"it makes like easier if you keep him happy, if your nice to him he will be nice to you too if youre lucky. think yourself lucky he is still interested, he might not be one day. ![]() Why would you want to be with someone who is only nice to you if they get what they want? Or be GRATEFUL that they are still interested? | |||
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"it makes like easier if you keep him happy, if your nice to him he will be nice to you too if youre lucky. think yourself lucky he is still interested, he might not be one day. ![]() Took the words out of my mouth ![]() | |||
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"it makes like easier if you keep him happy, if your nice to him he will be nice to you too if youre lucky. think yourself lucky he is still interested, he might not be one day. ![]() ![]() What happens if he doesn't want sex? Is one supposed to feel what abandoned? I'm single and still treat my sexual partners with mutual respect, and expect the same ![]() | |||
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"it makes like easier if you keep him happy, if your nice to him he will be nice to you too if youre lucky. think yourself lucky he is still interested, he might not be one day. ![]() its called give and take, if you love a man you feel that way, i dont mean men you meet just for sex. | |||
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"Who's got time to always be available for sex? ![]() For you, I'll do my best ![]() | |||
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"it makes like easier if you keep him happy, if your nice to him he will be nice to you too if youre lucky. think yourself lucky he is still interested, he might not be one day. ![]() as someone in a partnership based on mutual respect and equality, we're nice to each other because we want to be not because it is reciprocal based on that niceness...not sure if that makes sense but it does to me... ![]() | |||
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"it makes like easier if you keep him happy, if your nice to him he will be nice to you too if youre lucky. think yourself lucky he is still interested, he might not be one day. ![]() yep...I had to look twice at the calendar there to be sure we hadn't slipped back into the 1950s... ![]() | |||
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"it makes like easier if you keep him happy, if your nice to him he will be nice to you too if youre lucky. think yourself lucky he is still interested, he might not be one day. ![]() ![]() Yes it does make sense, well to me anyway. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"do women find if they are always available to the husband it makes life easier? also do men like it this way?" No we like it when the other half actually wants to have sex rather than just because they feel they have too or it is expected. | |||
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"Who's got time to always be available for sex? ![]() This is a serious question, are you a surrendered wife? | |||
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"it makes like easier if you keep him happy, if your nice to him he will be nice to you too if youre lucky. think yourself lucky he is still interested, he might not be one day. ![]() ![]() Yes it makes perfect sense and the fact that partnerships/relationships/marriage should be founded in mutual respect was exactly the point I made in my first response. I also agree with GJ that there should be give and take for a relationship to be successful and fulfilling but not that partner A give in to partner B just so they will be nice back - being "nice" to each other should surely be a given? Apologies to Floro for the use of "that" word again!! | |||
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"There was a self help/relationship 'fad' a few years ago based on a book called The Surrendered Wife. This sounds similar to that as it was all about the woman giving up control on everything. " My first thought, see above ![]() ![]() | |||
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"There was a self help/relationship 'fad' a few years ago based on a book called The Surrendered Wife. This sounds similar to that as it was all about the woman giving up control on everything. My first thought, see above ![]() ![]() Can't see it myself ![]() | |||
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"There was a self help/relationship 'fad' a few years ago based on a book called The Surrendered Wife. This sounds similar to that as it was all about the woman giving up control on everything. My first thought, see above ![]() ![]() ![]() Lol quelle surprise! | |||
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"if you expect your husband to put up with the fact that you are available to other men then it starts to sound like a fair pay off maybe " Why? Most couples swing because they both enjoy it not as some sort of trade off for sexual favours at home. | |||
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"do women find if they are always available to the husband it makes life easier? also do men like it this way?" I'm available when I want to be end of story This woman ain't for changing! | |||
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"Who's got time to always be available for sex? ![]() i guess that's why im single because i dint feel i have to make time for anything ![]() | |||
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"Who's got time to always be available for sex? ![]() ![]() see you 12 o clock Wednesday then ![]() | |||
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"if you expect your husband to put up with the fact that you are available to other men then it starts to sound like a fair pay off maybe " put up with? dear me thank god um single ![]() | |||
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"do women find if they are always available to the husband it makes life easier? also do men like it this way?" This suggests that men are likely to make a womans life difficult if they aren't always sexually available. I know that some men are like that but only a tiny minority surely, or am I being very naïve? | |||
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"I'm guessing the OP meant that the man can just get on with it whenever he wants with her? Like 'Bend over luv, I'm ragin' here!' Whup! " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"do women find if they are always available to the husband it makes life easier? also do men like it this way?" lmfao at some of the outraged responses... do men find if their wallet is always available to the wife it makes life easier? also do women like it this way? --------------------------- grabs popcorn... | |||
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"Who's got time to always be available for sex? ![]() If anyone can answer positively to this please feel free to PM me ![]() | |||
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"do women find if they are always available to the husband it makes life easier? also do men like it this way? lmfao at some of the outraged responses... do men find if their wallet is always available to the wife it makes life easier? also do women like it this way? --------------------------- grabs popcorn..." I think this and some of the other responses show how some people run their relationships and still have the idea that men want sex all the time and women want their husbands money. That's fine by me as everyone should run their relationship the way they want to but for those of us in equal partnerships these things don't apply | |||
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"if youre hubby is the main bread winner you cant realy be equal." What makes you think this? Do you think the work of raising children is worthless because it's unpaid or that if a woman earns less than a man even if she works the same hours she isn't entitled to be an equal in a relationship? I am genuinely interested in your response and the thinking behind your statement. | |||
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"if youre hubby is the main bread winner you cant realy be equal. What makes you think this? Do you think the work of raising children is worthless because it's unpaid or that if a woman earns less than a man even if she works the same hours she isn't entitled to be an equal in a relationship? I am genuinely interested in your response and the thinking behind your statement." because without him you would be skint, for one thing. | |||
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"if youre hubby is the main bread winner you cant realy be equal. What makes you think this? Do you think the work of raising children is worthless because it's unpaid or that if a woman earns less than a man even if she works the same hours she isn't entitled to be an equal in a relationship? I am genuinely interested in your response and the thinking behind your statement. because without him you would be skint, for one thing." So you are saying that if my husband earns more than me I should be sexually available to him at all times and I'm not his equal? What happens if the woman earns more than the main and is therefore the main breadwinner? | |||
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"if the woman earns more than the man she should still make an effort to have sex with him when he wants to." I see. I don't think you and I see things quite the same but we're all entitled to our opinion ![]() | |||
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"if the woman earns more than the man she should still make an effort to have sex with him when he wants to." So to your mind every woman should be sexually subservient to her man no matter what the circumstances. As someone who was expected to survive in just such a relationship and bullied and quite literally ignored for weeks when I did not comply I find it totally unacceptable. I endured it for a long time because I had three very young children and was scared of being on my own and supporting them. I ended it when I realised that my children were suffering as much as I was. When my husband didnt get his own way it wasnt only me he ignored but his children too. I ran a home, raised my children unsupported, made all the important decisions,worked part time and dealt with all financial matters and anything else that needed dealing with throughout my marriage and yet because I would not provide sex on demand I was made to feel totally worthless and treated with contempt. I gave in countless times for the sake of peace and I ended up hating myself for the person I had become. My heart goes out to you GJ if you truly believe what you say is the way a relationship should be. I hope you dont wake up one day to feel the way I did. x | |||
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"if the woman earns more than the man she should still make an effort to have sex with him when he wants to." If it's something that takes effort to do then how can either party find it enjoyable? I know I'm single, but if I was in a relationship then I'd want sex to be something we both enjoyed not something one of us felt we had to endure for the other...regardless of who earns what! | |||
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"if youre hubby is the main bread winner you cant realy be equal." "if the woman earns more than the man she should still make an effort to have sex with him when he wants to." your kind of contradicting yourself now firstly your saying you should shag on demand as your not a equal if he earns more then you say you should shag on demand even if your earn more, but if the women earns more surely by your logic the guys not equal to her so why should he get sex rights if he's blow her in the house ranking? surely he need to be a real man and get a better job if he wants sex rights ![]() | |||
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"if youre hubby is the main bread winner you cant realy be equal. if the woman earns more than the man she should still make an effort to have sex with him when he wants to. your kind of contradicting yourself now firstly your saying you should shag on demand as your not a equal if he earns more then you say you should shag on demand even if your earn more, but if the women earns more surely by your logic the guys not equal to her so why should he get sex rights if he's blow her in the house ranking? surely he need to be a real man and get a better job if he wants sex rights ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"if youre hubby is the main bread winner you cant realy be equal." Wow .... What century are we in??!! | |||
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"if youre hubby is the main bread winner you cant realy be equal. Wow .... What century are we in??!! " Now that is a statement that could get slated me thinks lol ![]() | |||
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"do women find if they are always available to the husband it makes life easier? also do men like it this way?" Some of us would rather our wives actually enjoyed it. This smacks of "I'm only doing him a favour" Not the sort of relationship that some of us want. | |||
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"some men say their wives dont like oral sex, or they are too tired, or they dont like men who wear ladies underwear, and one man said his wife wouldnt put a dildo up his bum. if what they say is true then i can understand why they want to see other women, although i dont agree with men who put preasure on you to have sex when you have just had a baby because it can be very painful or men who get annoyed with you when you say they are hurting you. my hubby used to wake me up in the night to have sex, sometimes you do it even if you dont want to and you still enjoy it anyway. clare raynor used to say that you should have sex even if you didnt feel like it because it would make you want to do it more where as if you dont do it very often you could stop wanting to do it ever." sounds like abuse to me hun but no comment on this forum will change your mind keep in contact with your friends and fsmily x | |||
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"some men say their wives dont like oral sex, or they are too tired, or they dont like men who wear ladies underwear, and one man said his wife wouldnt put a dildo up his bum. if what they say is true then i can understand why they want to see other women, although i dont agree with men who put preasure on you to have sex when you have just had a baby because it can be very painful or men who get annoyed with you when you say they are hurting you. my hubby used to wake me up in the night to have sex, sometimes you do it even if you dont want to and you still enjoy it anyway. clare raynor used to say that you should have sex even if you didnt feel like it because it would make you want to do it more where as if you dont do it very often you could stop wanting to do it ever." Wow, just wow, I feel bad for anyone who thinks like that, doesn't sound like a happy existence at all, but whatever works for the individual I guess. Not everyone thinks the same way though thankfully. | |||
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"if you're hubby is the main bread winner you cant really be equal." we are both equal in our partnership ![]() ![]() | |||
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"do women find if they are always available to the husband it makes life easier? also do men like it this way? lmfao at some of the outraged responses... do men find if their wallet is always available to the wife it makes life easier? also do women like it this way? --------------------------- grabs popcorn..." If you feel you have to pay your wife fot an easy life it's not really for us to comment on is it ![]() | |||
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"some men say their wives dont like oral sex, or they are too tired, or they dont like men who wear ladies underwear, and one man said his wife wouldnt put a dildo up his bum. if what they say is true then i can understand why they want to see other women, although i dont agree with men who put preasure on you to have sex when you have just had a baby because it can be very painful or men who get annoyed with you when you say they are hurting you. my hubby used to wake me up in the night to have sex, sometimes you do it even if you dont want to and you still enjoy it anyway. clare raynor used to say that you'd should have sex even if you didnt feel like it because it would make you want to do it more where as if you dont do it very often you could stop wanting to do it ever." Jemma are you swinging of your own free will? This isn't intended to argue with you or make a point or change your mind about anything but is it something you absolutely can say "yes I want to do that just for my own reasons". | |||
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"We gave been together for three years and married for ten months. We have been swinging for two years . There has never been a time that either one of us has not been ' available ' for sex with each other . We doth had long term relationships before meeting each other where this was far from being the case so we do understand both sides to the ops question . It's not so much being available , it's more that we both still have the same desire for each other now as we did when we met . If that desire wanes we will be disappointed but while it's there we are extremely happy ![]() Which is very different to being available to a man just because he is a man or because he earns more than you. Most men I know want their partners to want them because they find them sexually attractive not because they are scared of the consequences if they.dont. | |||
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" There have been dome amazing opinions on here. Sadly after bring in here as long as I have have to say I am not shocked, some people seem to have missed pit major historical events that moved women on from the vacuous 'I do it because my husband likes it' times to the much better 'I do it because I like it' times of the day" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"No, seduction is still an art for both partners first date or 20th anniversary. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"some men say their wives dont like oral sex, or they are too tired, or they dont like men who wear ladies underwear, and one man said his wife wouldnt put a dildo up his bum. if what they say is true then i can understand why they want to see other women, although i dont agree with men who put preasure on you to have sex when you have just had a baby because it can be very painful or men who get annoyed with you when you say they are hurting you. my hubby used to wake me up in the night to have sex, sometimes you do it even if you dont want to and you still enjoy it anyway. clare raynor used to say that you should have sex even if you didnt feel like it because it would make you want to do it more where as if you dont do it very often you could stop wanting to do it ever." Sounds too me like your husband is a control freak and has no respect and is stuck in the old ages, too me it's very sad but sounds like abuse ![]() | |||
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"A good woman should never let her man leave the house hungry or horny. That's a fact." ![]() | |||
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"if you're hubby is the main bread winner you cant really be equal. " Wow.... Would you still think this was the case if Mr Smith works 40hrs/week and gets paid 40k per annum, but Mrs Smith works 50hrs/week as a volunteer helping in a children's hospital, reading stories, playing games, communicating and listening to children in need?? Money plays no part in the equalities within a relationship. Then there is Mrs Brown who is paid 10k pa more than Mr Brown but then takes extended maternity leave where she does not get paid for 10 months. Is Mrs Brown suddenly a lesser partner when she goes on her maternity leave? I hope these views get strongly diluted in the world over time - they genuinely frighten me. Money is no consideration to either of us when it comes to relationships, it's one of the LAST things we would think about | |||
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"A good woman should never let her man leave the house hungry or horny. That's a fact." A good man would curb his urges and make his own bloody sandwich ![]() ![]() | |||
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"some men say their wives dont like oral sex, or they are too tired, or they dont like men who wear ladies underwear, and one man said his wife wouldnt put a dildo up his bum. if what they say is true then i can understand why they want to see other women, although i dont agree with men who put preasure on you to have sex when you have just had a baby because it can be very painful or men who get annoyed with you when you say they are hurting you. my hubby used to wake me up in the night to have sex, sometimes you do it even if you dont want to and you still enjoy it anyway. clare raynor used to say that you'd should have sex even if you didnt feel like it because it would make you want to do it more where as if you dont do it very often you could stop wanting to do it ever. Jemma are you swinging of your own free will? This isn't intended to argue with you or make a point or change your mind about anything but is it something you absolutely can say "yes I want to do that just for my own reasons". " What I was thinking after reading the profile. ![]() | |||
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"Jemma is a regular on these forums... Think it is safe to say that most of us know her views on certain things, things we may consider "old fashioned"... She is entitled to express how she considers things, without us having a go simply because we dont agree with them...." No one is having a go. We are expressing opposing opinions and concern. I was at pains to point that out to her. Also because someone is well known for holding a certain opinion doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss that with them does it? | |||
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"some men say their wives dont like oral sex, or they are too tired, or they dont like men who wear ladies underwear, and one man said his wife wouldnt put a dildo up his bum. if what they say is true then i can understand why they want to see other women, although i dont agree with men who put preasure on you to have sex when you have just had a baby because it can be very painful or men who get annoyed with you when you say they are hurting you. my hubby used to wake me up in the night to have sex, sometimes you do it even if you dont want to and you still enjoy it anyway. clare raynor used to say that you'd should have sex even if you didnt feel like it because it would make you want to do it more where as if you dont do it very often you could stop wanting to do it ever. Jemma are you swinging of your own free will? This isn't intended to argue with you or make a point or change your mind about anything but is it something you absolutely can say "yes I want to do that just for my own reasons". What I was thinking after reading the profile. ![]() i was thinking along those lines too i find it very sad in this day and age a woman feels she is not a equal in her marriage because of who earns what and feels she should submit to sexual demands ![]() | |||
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"Jemma is a regular on these forums... Think it is safe to say that most of us know her views on certain things, things we may consider "old fashioned"... She is entitled to express how she considers things, without us having a go simply because we dont agree with them...." ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"A good woman should never let her man leave the house hungry or horny. That's a fact." so your either single or have a shit woman then? ![]() | |||
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" No one is having a go. We are expressing opposing opinions and concern. I was at pains to point that out to her. Also because someone is well known for holding a certain opinion doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss that with them does it?" Asking her if she is here on her own free will because of her opinions is not expressing an opposing opinion.... | |||
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" We are expressing opposing opinions and concern. Asking her if she is here on her own free will because of her opinions is not expressing an opposing opinion...." It is expressing concern. Is that wrong? | |||
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"if youre hubby is the main bread winner you cant realy be equal. What makes you think this? Do you think the work of raising children is worthless because it's unpaid or that if a woman earns less than a man even if she works the same hours she isn't entitled to be an equal in a relationship? I am genuinely interested in your response and the thinking behind your statement. because without him you would be skint, for one thing." im single, and im not skint, I earn my own money and I pay my own bill and I need no man to help me with that so that throws that argument out the window Its 2013, women really don't need men anymore, we are with them because we want them not because us frail little ladies cant survive without them | |||
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"some men say their wives dont like oral sex, or they are too tired, or they dont like men who wear ladies underwear, and one man said his wife wouldnt put a dildo up his bum. if what they say is true then i can understand why they want to see other women, although i dont agree with men who put preasure on you to have sex when you have just had a baby because it can be very painful or men who get annoyed with you when you say they are hurting you. my hubby used to wake me up in the night to have sex, sometimes you do it even if you dont want to and you still enjoy it anyway. clare raynor used to say that you should have sex even if you didnt feel like it because it would make you want to do it more where as if you dont do it very often you could stop wanting to do it ever." I'm sorry but I can't let this pass any longer...Clare Rayner used that example as advice to women who were looking to recapture their sexual desire usually following childbirth within a loving mutually respectful relationship and NOT in order to justify giving into someone who insists continuing to have sex with you even though they're hurting you or who you wake up to find having sex with you... The old girl will be literally spinning in grave to see her writing being taken out of context in such a way... | |||
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" No one is having a go. We are expressing opposing opinions and concern. I was at pains to point that out to her. Also because someone is well known for holding a certain opinion doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss that with them does it? Asking her if she is here on her own free will because of her opinions is not expressing an opposing opinion...." If she doesn't want people to question what she says then she shouldn't post it in the first place. I find her views on women quite offensive but she has the right to her own views just as I have the right to question it and just because she is a regular forum user to you doesn't mean jack to someone else. | |||
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"it makes like easier if you keep him happy, if your nice to him he will be nice to you too if youre lucky. think yourself lucky he is still interested, he might not be one day. ![]() This kind of thing was often said in the 1950s. | |||
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"it makes like easier if you keep him happy, if your nice to him he will be nice to you too if youre lucky. think yourself lucky he is still interested, he might not be one day. ![]() and when he's not interested in the woman anymore she can just come on here for sex then go home and not put up with the sexist bull shit after ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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" No one is having a go. We are expressing opposing opinions and concern. I was at pains to point that out to her. Also because someone is well known for holding a certain opinion doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss that with them does it? Asking her if she is here on her own free will because of her opinions is not expressing an opposing opinion.... If she doesn't want people to question what she says then she shouldn't post it in the first place. I find her views on women quite offensive but she has the right to her own views just as I have the right to question it and just because she is a regular forum user to you doesn't mean jack to someone else. " How exactly do you have the right to question her views?? I post my opinions in the forums...Does that mean im looking for others to question those views? Does it hell.. And I was pointing out that her being a regular has given us an insight into how she chooses to live her life weather we agree with it or not! | |||
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"A good woman should never let her man leave the house hungry or horny. That's a fact." That's an opinion, actually. | |||
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" No one is having a go. We are expressing opposing opinions and concern. I was at pains to point that out to her. Also because someone is well known for holding a certain opinion doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss that with them does it? Asking her if she is here on her own free will because of her opinions is not expressing an opposing opinion.... If she doesn't want people to question what she says then she shouldn't post it in the first place. I find her views on women quite offensive but she has the right to her own views just as I have the right to question it and just because she is a regular forum user to you doesn't mean jack to someone else. How exactly do you have the right to question her views?? I post my opinions in the forums...Does that mean im looking for others to question those views? Does it hell.. And I was pointing out that her being a regular has given us an insight into how she chooses to live her life weather we agree with it or not!" well I'm afraid you are in the wrong place if you never want to be questioned or disagreed with. I have never seen a forum which acts in the way you seem to think it should. Everyone's entitled to their views, if I was out of order I would have been banned , until then ill use the forums how I choose. | |||
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" How exactly do you have the right to question her views?? " By the same right that you are questioning others views I would think. | |||
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"A good woman should never let her man leave the house hungry or horny. That's a fact." If that was the opinion of my man I'd let him leave the house and then change the bloody locks whilst he was gone!!!! | |||
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"A good woman should never let her man leave the house hungry or horny. That's a fact. If that was the opinion of my man I'd let him leave the house and then change the bloody locks whilst he was gone!!!!" He's talking about a good woman though, we all know most men want a bad one ![]() | |||
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" No one is having a go. We are expressing opposing opinions and concern. I was at pains to point that out to her. Also because someone is well known for holding a certain opinion doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss that with them does it? Asking her if she is here on her own free will because of her opinions is not expressing an opposing opinion.... If she doesn't want people to question what she says then she shouldn't post it in the first place. I find her views on women quite offensive but she has the right to her own views just as I have the right to question it and just because she is a regular forum user to you doesn't mean jack to someone else. How exactly do you have the right to question her views?? I post my opinions in the forums...Does that mean im looking for others to question those views? Does it hell.. And I was pointing out that her being a regular has given us an insight into how she chooses to live her life weather we agree with it or not!" Lol@ the right to question her views- is that not exactly what a forum is? A media outlet to express and question views? A forum without a difference of opinion would be a very quiet and dull place indeed! As for 'she's a regular' well that's grand, so am I and so probably are 90% of the posters here, the number and frequency of posts really has no bearing on how valid they are, everyone is entitled to an opinion be they newbie or old hand and should be respected for it | |||
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"PS- anyone else note that the OP set up the thread and then disappeared? Trolling methinks..worked a treat by the looks of things!" Probably. Its a really interesting subject though and has produced some surprising opinions. | |||
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"A good woman should never let her man leave the house hungry or horny. That's a fact. If that was the opinion of my man I'd let him leave the house and then change the bloody locks whilst he was gone!!!! He's talking about a good woman though, we all know most men want a bad one ![]() Lol have you been peeking at my status?? | |||
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"A good woman should never let her man leave the house hungry or horny. That's a fact. If that was the opinion of my man I'd let him leave the house and then change the bloody locks whilst he was gone!!!! He's talking about a good woman though, we all know most men want a bad one ![]() I hadn't but I have now ![]() | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to an opinion. However, we assume, for one thing that we always have a RIGHT to speak that opinion. Now, I am not saying, before anyone quotes me out of context, that any of the people on here had no right to 'voice' their opinion. I am, nevertheless, saying that if you choose to share that opinion, others have the right to give THEIR opinions of it! If you don't want people to disagree with your opinions, then do not post them as, inevitably, someone will disagree." ![]() | |||
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