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"I've found a lot of the ladies don't actually always prefer the bodybuilder look. Wich is a shame coz I used to be fat! Lol ![]() You look fine to me! Too short though. I train with weights, but its going to take a while to start looking like I actually take it seriously. | |||
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"id class myself as a bodybuilder" Its hard to be taken seriously as a bodybuilder these days though if you don't use steroids - most people have no idea what's naturally attainable physique wise and what isn't. | |||
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"BODYBUILDERS- to the extreme takes unbelievable dedication, its not just the weights but the nutrition and obviously the "SUPPLEMENTS" needed to obtain the perfect symmetry...some woman/Men will like/love the look, but to put up with the 6/8 meals a day, Training 3 times a day...the mood changes and temperament... NOT many will put up with it...so looking for NSA naughties here may elimnate that issue. Its funny though..as some dont see it as a sport......keep going though, that extra rep similar to lick or thrust is the one that normally counts!!" It's seems obsessive and narcissistic and maybe that's the less attractive attribute of someone being extreme about their appearance just to win medals from others with the same hobby. | |||
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"BODYBUILDERS- to the extreme takes unbelievable dedication, its not just the weights but the nutrition and obviously the "SUPPLEMENTS" needed to obtain the perfect symmetry...some woman/Men will like/love the look, but to put up with the 6/8 meals a day, Training 3 times a day...the mood changes and temperament... NOT many will put up with it...so looking for NSA naughties here may elimnate that issue. Its funny though..as some dont see it as a sport......keep going though, that extra rep similar to lick or thrust is the one that normally counts!! It's seems obsessive and narcissistic and maybe that's the less attractive attribute of someone being extreme about their appearance just to win medals from others with the same hobby." Just seen this and as a postscript some men have a great body due to their occupation. | |||
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"Then arises the question why is one bodybuilding? If they are doing it just to get attention from women then (from my point of view) they wont be getting far in the sport." People often write as though making attempts to be more attractive to women is a bad thing/sign of weakness, whilst I consider it essential if you don't want your bloodline to end with you. To me, a man should train to both better his chances at finding the woman he wants to be with, and perhaps more importantly, to prove to himself that he is capable of setting personal challenges/goals and achieving them. | |||
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"BODYBUILDERS- to the extreme takes unbelievable dedication, its not just the weights but the nutrition and obviously the "SUPPLEMENTS" needed to obtain the perfect symmetry...some woman/Men will like/love the look, but to put up with the 6/8 meals a day, Training 3 times a day...the mood changes and temperament... NOT many will put up with it...so looking for NSA naughties here may elimnate that issue. Its funny though..as some dont see it as a sport......keep going though, that extra rep similar to lick or thrust is the one that normally counts!! It's seems obsessive and narcissistic and maybe that's the less attractive attribute of someone being extreme about their appearance just to win medals from others with the same hobby. Just seen this and as a postscript some men have a great body due to their occupation." What occupation requires a bodybuilder physique? | |||
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"I've found a lot of the ladies don't actually always prefer the bodybuilder look. Wich is a shame coz I used to be fat! Lol ![]() Id say ur not over done regarding body building...you is chunky and toned which is good ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"BODYBUILDERS- to the extreme takes unbelievable dedication, its not just the weights but the nutrition and obviously the "SUPPLEMENTS" needed to obtain the perfect symmetry...some woman/Men will like/love the look, but to put up with the 6/8 meals a day, Training 3 times a day...the mood changes and temperament... NOT many will put up with it...so looking for NSA naughties here may elimnate that issue. Its funny though..as some dont see it as a sport......keep going though, that extra rep similar to lick or thrust is the one that normally counts!! It's seems obsessive and narcissistic and maybe that's the less attractive attribute of someone being extreme about their appearance just to win medals from others with the same hobby. Just seen this and as a postscript some men have a great body due to their occupation. What occupation requires a bodybuilder physique?" The man i met was a Personal Trainer and he had a delicious body ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"i go 2 the gym and keep fit.and i go 2 bodybuilding shows.all my mates are in 2 bodybilding 2. they got 2 be they are on the doors and were i live in newport u need 2 be big with all them yobs.lol ![]() Usually find the yobs are the doormen themselves! Too many roids, too much aggression, and over bearing punters go out the back door to be "kicked in" where there are no cameras. | |||
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"BODYBUILDERS- to the extreme takes unbelievable dedication, its not just the weights but the nutrition and obviously the "SUPPLEMENTS" needed to obtain the perfect symmetry...some woman/Men will like/love the look, but to put up with the 6/8 meals a day, Training 3 times a day...the mood changes and temperament... NOT many will put up with it...so looking for NSA naughties here may elimnate that issue. Its funny though..as some dont see it as a sport......keep going though, that extra rep similar to lick or thrust is the one that normally counts!! It's seems obsessive and narcissistic and maybe that's the less attractive attribute of someone being extreme about their appearance just to win medals from others with the same hobby. Just seen this and as a postscript some men have a great body due to their occupation. What occupation requires a bodybuilder physique?" professional bodybuilder ![]() | |||
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"....sounds under weight mr marsh lol, im 5ft 9 on a good day lol, 17.5 inch neck on my shirts and scales are the same but 31 waist...pity they dont do that size...lol 30-32 waist.....how the fook do you get jeans lol coz i struggle like a pregnant fish!!" I stand 6ft 1, at 125kg (19st) 52" chest, 19" neck, 42"waist 28"thighs. jeans are a no go for me | |||
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"i go 2 the gym and keep fit.and i go 2 bodybuilding shows.all my mates are in 2 bodybilding 2. they got 2 be they are on the doors and were i live in newport u need 2 be big with all them yobs.lol ![]() I think that's abit harsh to say that. I am open an honest about my GYM life and I've done a course of steroids and my temper didn't flare up. I don't walk about like a hard man. I don't think I'm gods gift to women. Some guys use steroids as an excuse to act like a violent dick. Most guys about have tried or are on steroids but you don't know coz 1) they are doing it wrong 2) they lie about being on it. I'm not advising to use steriods I'm just giving my opinion. | |||
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"Don't talk about jeans can I find any that fit , I'm a 29 waist 42 chest , I guess body building and fitness are some of my pass times . However so many jeans with 30 waist are just too tight around my thighs . And let's not even discuss shirts x" Ah the jeans dilemma! I think some one needs to start a new brand of jeans for us big thighed folk! -Mrs. Edel x | |||
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"....sounds under weight mr marsh lol, im 5ft 9 on a good day lol, 17.5 inch neck on my shirts and scales are the same but 31 waist...pity they dont do that size...lol 30-32 waist.....how the fook do you get jeans lol coz i struggle like a pregnant fish!!" My quads are quite big, and my glutes are too. I buy 34" jeans and have them taken in on the waist. I feel underweight to be honest, but it's hard for me to gain much more, I've never managed to get over 196lbs (14st). I've got a 17" neck, 15.5" arms and I'm not sure what my chest is. I'm all back though, my chest has always been very weak. | |||
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"....sounds under weight mr marsh lol, im 5ft 9 on a good day lol, 17.5 inch neck on my shirts and scales are the same but 31 waist...pity they dont do that size...lol 30-32 waist.....how the fook do you get jeans lol coz i struggle like a pregnant fish!! My quads are quite big, and my glutes are too. I buy 34" jeans and have them taken in on the waist. I feel underweight to be honest, but it's hard for me to gain much more, I've never managed to get over 196lbs (14st). I've got a 17" neck, 15.5" arms and I'm not sure what my chest is. I'm all back though, my chest has always been very weak." If the statistics you posted are accurate Randy, then you have an FFMI of 23.5, which basically puts in the genetically gifted category for bodybuilding - may I ask your best lifts and weights? | |||
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"I train relatively light, with strict form. My best ever one rep max was a 190kg deadlift. I tried 200kg, but couldn't lock it out. I only flat bench 20kg a side (60kg) but that's for reps, 130kg is my best ORM. I squat 45 a side for reps, but as I say, I don't train heavy, I train with strict form." Just to add too... I don't train with heavy weights because I don't powerlift, I train to bodybuild. | |||
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"I train relatively light, with strict form. My best ever one rep max was a 190kg deadlift. I tried 200kg, but couldn't lock it out. I only flat bench 20kg a side (60kg) but that's for reps, 130kg is my best ORM. I squat 45 a side for reps, but as I say, I don't train heavy, I train with strict form. Just to add too... I don't train with heavy weights because I don't powerlift, I train to bodybuild." They're not a millions miles apart those disciplines, as both require a high degree of strength to succeed. You say that you don't train with heavy weights but mention a 130kg Bench and Deadlift 190kg (very impressive lifts btw) - though you say you train much lighter now and go for feel, I guarantee you that you wouldn't have the muscle mass you do now had you not previously built up your strength to those levels. | |||
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"I train relatively light, with strict form. My best ever one rep max was a 190kg deadlift. I tried 200kg, but couldn't lock it out. I only flat bench 20kg a side (60kg) but that's for reps, 130kg is my best ORM. I squat 45 a side for reps, but as I say, I don't train heavy, I train with strict form. Just to add too... I don't train with heavy weights because I don't powerlift, I train to bodybuild. They're not a millions miles apart those disciplines, as both require a high degree of strength to succeed. You say that you don't train with heavy weights but mention a 130kg Bench and Deadlift 190kg (very impressive lifts btw) - though you say you train much lighter now and go for feel, I guarantee you that you wouldn't have the muscle mass you do now had you not previously built up your strength to those levels." To be totally fair, the 130kg flat bench was crap form. It was taken over by the front delts. I do only train light now, with much more control. I'm very critical over my form, and I'm never happy with myself. Suppose that just pushes me on to better myself... | |||
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"I train relatively light, with strict form. My best ever one rep max was a 190kg deadlift. I tried 200kg, but couldn't lock it out. I only flat bench 20kg a side (60kg) but that's for reps, 130kg is my best ORM. I squat 45 a side for reps, but as I say, I don't train heavy, I train with strict form. Just to add too... I don't train with heavy weights because I don't powerlift, I train to bodybuild. They're not a millions miles apart those disciplines, as both require a high degree of strength to succeed. You say that you don't train with heavy weights but mention a 130kg Bench and Deadlift 190kg (very impressive lifts btw) - though you say you train much lighter now and go for feel, I guarantee you that you wouldn't have the muscle mass you do now had you not previously built up your strength to those levels. To be totally fair, the 130kg flat bench was crap form. It was taken over by the front delts. I do only train light now, with much more control. I'm very critical over my form, and I'm never happy with myself. Suppose that just pushes me on to better myself..." 6'1 is pretty tall, so chances are you have long limbs too, which would explain why you feel so much of the bench weight in your shoulders (don't forget that weight increases on a longer lever, like lifting a housebrick in your hand then lifting it with a shovel). Something I found really helps with better bringing your pecs into the bench press is to first try widening your grip slightly, and think about what your elbows are doing rather than your hands - I find I get a much stronger sensation in my chest if I try to lift the weight by pushing through my elbows rather than my palms. | |||
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"I train relatively light, with strict form. My best ever one rep max was a 190kg deadlift. I tried 200kg, but couldn't lock it out. I only flat bench 20kg a side (60kg) but that's for reps, 130kg is my best ORM. I squat 45 a side for reps, but as I say, I don't train heavy, I train with strict form. Just to add too... I don't train with heavy weights because I don't powerlift, I train to bodybuild. They're not a millions miles apart those disciplines, as both require a high degree of strength to succeed. You say that you don't train with heavy weights but mention a 130kg Bench and Deadlift 190kg (very impressive lifts btw) - though you say you train much lighter now and go for feel, I guarantee you that you wouldn't have the muscle mass you do now had you not previously built up your strength to those levels." I would say they do differ quite considerably ? The above orm are indeed impressive but compared to a power lifter of equal weight they are 2 thirds . Mine are similar at 75 kg I only bench 130 max and dead 180 max What is true I'd say is one needs heavy compound lifts to stimulate the correct hormones, and then the strict medium weight form will break down the muscle fibers and stimulate growth As an occasional climber I know that we can dramatically increase strength without the beef obviously there is a limit of strength to muscle mass but this is usually the objective for a power lifter and climber and not so important for a muscle body /shape builder Nutrition is equally important | |||
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"i used to weigh just short of 16 stone and didnt have an ounce of fat on me was all muscle" Very doubtful, neither Reg Park nor Steve Reeves, two of the greatest bodybuilders ever got to that size in lean condition. | |||
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"Interesting note , many gymnasts , who's body and feats I must say I aspire to, say they only train with their body weight , I have a set of rings in the garden and mainly train my back there or climbing oh and wake boarding there is a back and bicep leg work out x" gym work is about the worst thing you can do for climbing .got to be as thin as possible | |||
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"i used to weigh just short of 16 stone and didnt have an ounce of fat on me was all muscle Very doubtful, neither Reg Park nor Steve Reeves, two of the greatest bodybuilders ever got to that size in lean condition." ![]() ![]() | |||
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"i used to weigh just short of 16 stone and didnt have an ounce of fat on me was all muscle Very doubtful, neither Reg Park nor Steve Reeves, two of the greatest bodybuilders ever got to that size in lean condition. ![]() ![]() I'm guessing that you weren't especially lean either? That's not a criticism, its simply that very, VERY few guys have the genetic potential to even reach that size at any particular level of leanness, even Arnold Schwartzenegger who was known to use plenty of steroids 'only' weighed around the 16 stone mark in competition shape - which of course, was a lot less 'ripped' in the 70s than the bodybuilders of today. | |||
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"Who has time to waste their life body building, unless your getting to compete lol, just keep it lean!! ![]() ![]() Indeed, just commit yourself to 3-4 hours of intense exercise a week and eat a balanced diet, and you'll be stronger and fitter than the vast majority of guys out there. | |||
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"i was pretty lean.just had help getting there. mixing cycling in this time,just 30 minutes 3x a week the golden era guys looked amazing. like you even the 60's guys were big,but you can see when gear started making a play in the game. just this week achieved my goal of 17inch arms.shall move the goal now.got to have something to aim at." I respect the fact that you're honest about your previous use, I don't actually have a problem with guys using steroids, that's their choice, but I greatly dislike those who lie about it. I've read that steroids first started to become prevalent in bodybuilding around the mid 50s and onwards - they existed before then but were extremely rare and only really accessible by those who had ties with the labs that were initially producing them. If you look at images of bodybuilders from the 40s and before, you'll see a VAST difference in size and muscle compared to those from the 60s onwards. | |||
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"Trace comes from the type of family who gain a stone just by walking past Greggs. Neither do they subscribe to sport or exercise. Because of this, not wanting to look like her sisters, Trace became bulimic and went down to just over 7st. This was in her early to mid 20's. It scared me to death and as I trained at a gym I got her into going there to change her shape, instead of killing herself to do it. She became addicted to it, took various courses and has been a fitness/gym instructor ever since. She competed in the Trained Figure Class and won many area and national championships, also a European championship and a couple of runner ups in the worlds championships. She now trains women for competitions, so you could say body building saved her life. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Fallen Madonna- thats how i/we train....ie. weights, wrestle, judo, Box and then some of the classes for "girls"....dont let anyone knock the "girls" classes, ideal for heart rate and cardio along with co-ordination.....so back to the body building and door men... Bulk to be a door person should I say is bollox, a good door person will talk the "yob" out of the club/pub and just leave them outside, however......if the yob needs to be hit...they have to stay HIT. In my days fighting ive seen time and time again 90kg guys knock clean out guys 30-40 kg heavier...(thats on a mat) not outside the Dog n Duck...all im getting at size doesnt matter if you've been taught the skills..." How true is that! Im 5'4 and erm i have stories to tell lol | |||
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"I just want to tone up and get a bit of muscle definition. The only abs I've got are on my car. I'm veggie so find it quite hard to make any difference but have started using whey protein supplement milkshakes x 3 a day. " Jodie Marsh is either veggie or vegan and despite what anyone thinks of her - she has done outstandingly well in the body building game!! It is possible on a veggie diet so good luck with the shakes!! ![]() | |||
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"A lot of the reasons why the population is getting fatter or unhealthier is because they don't move about as much as their ancestors did. Humans are not designed to sit on their arses all day." You're absolutely right - our ancestors as recent as our grandparents didn't need to use gyms simply because so many of them had manual jobs that they would have been fit and strong anyway - there's no way you can swing a pick axe at rocks for 12 hours down a mine and NOT be. | |||
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"A lot of the reasons why the population is getting fatter or unhealthier is because they don't move about as much as their ancestors did. Humans are not designed to sit on their arses all day. You're absolutely right - our ancestors as recent as our grandparents didn't need to use gyms simply because so many of them had manual jobs that they would have been fit and strong anyway - there's no way you can swing a pick axe at rocks for 12 hours down a mine and NOT be." Totally agree with both of you! This is why I enjoy CrossFit so much! It embodies these principles at its core.. -Mrs Edel x | |||
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"A lot of the reasons why the population is getting fatter or unhealthier is because they don't move about as much as their ancestors did. Humans are not designed to sit on their arses all day. You're absolutely right - our ancestors as recent as our grandparents didn't need to use gyms simply because so many of them had manual jobs that they would have been fit and strong anyway - there's no way you can swing a pick axe at rocks for 12 hours down a mine and NOT be. Totally agree with both of you! This is why I enjoy CrossFit so much! It embodies these principles at its core.. -Mrs Edel x" Oh, and of course not that there would have been many gyms around in the 40s-60s anyway, I mean hardly anyone would have used them - how many of our grandfathers do you think would have spent the day hay bailing or loading sacks of potatoes, THEN go and spend the tiny amount of free time they'd have had each day lifting MORE weights? I think they'd have wanted to put their feet up and have a well deserved cup of tea. | |||
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"I dont want to be over muscly just very toned." Never ceases to amaze me how many women say that - you can use the as much weight as feels comfortable for you, going as heavy as you can manage (safely and responsibly of course), and you STILL won't become 'overly muscly' as a result because building large muscles requires large levels of testosterone, so obviously that's not going to be much of a concern for the majority of women ![]() | |||
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"I belong to a muscle gym because i need the routine and I can do my thing without having to socialise (I a right grumpy bastard). we've all sorts, body builders, power lifters, kick boxers and cage fighters. Then there's little old me, I don't think they know what to make of me, as I do my weights after doing a yoga session as I want to remain flexible too. I have challenged them to yoga and they lost, but then I couldn't lift their weights. Each to their own" wow you look lovely ![]() | |||
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"chest and bi`s at 10 am bring it on ![]() A chest and a couple of bi's sounds good. When are you gonna work on your arm muscles? ![]() | |||
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