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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Had a long hard think about how to reduce the amount of timewasters (or at least give an indication who might be).

How about a button on everyone's profile. If we click on this button, this means we agree to a meet with that person. This can only be seen by yourself and the other person, but a number would show on your profile for "Meets agreed".

After this, if you meet up, then you click another button to show the meet went ahead.

The result would be that if you were in the process of arranging a meet, you could be more confident it would go ahead because if a profile had dozens of meets agreed, but few or none attended, then you be right to be more wary. Alternatively, if someone had a given number of meets agreed, and also showed a similar number that went ahead, you could go into it with more confidence.

Although you still wouldn't be able to name and shame, you could get a general idea who was wasting peoples time. We would be very reluctant to agree a meet with someone who wouldn't "Pre-meet verify" us.

Thoughts anyone?

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

This would obviously be an optional feature, so who would display the fact that their car broke down/ auntie's cat had died/ caught their foreskin in zipper

Bit like veris really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It could be used in malice. Someone gets rejected so they click the button knowing their not going to meet but will give them a bad mark.

Best thing to do is just accept that let downs happen on here, work out a way to select someone well and work out a way best for you if you are let down, ie have a back up plan

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

If they only counted if both parties clicked the button this could work and then I can't see how it could be misused.

Great idea.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the meet gets cancelled it shows up on both profiles which isn't fair on the one that got stood up. I think we all have to accept that there are a lof of dreamers, picture collectors and time wasters on this site and I've had my share. Just accept and move on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If they only counted if both parties clicked the button this could work and then I can't see how it could be misused.

Great idea."

So if they both need to click it then if someone messes around they won't click it

so its not going to work

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"If they only counted if both parties clicked the button this could work and then I can't see how it could be misused.

Great idea.

So if they both need to click it then if someone messes around they won't click it

so its not going to work"

So if they won't click to say a meet is arranged you don't go.

Sorted

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself."

Timewasters!

Personally in six years of being on here yet to encounter a timewaster: I'm not unique.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself."
this

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself.

Timewasters!

Personally in six years of being on here yet to encounter a timewaster: I'm not unique. "

Oh, I've experienced timewasters; been sat in a pub waiting for someone who had no intention of turning up. But I just report them and move on now. Not sure it's a good use of my time to then brood over changing the entire site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself.

Timewasters!

Personally in six years of being on here yet to encounter a timewaster: I'm not unique. "

Six years ? you've been here six years ? Shaw shank redemption springs to mind....I'm hoping to be out on parole soon

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself.

Timewasters!

Personally in six years of being on here yet to encounter a timewaster: I'm not unique.

Oh, I've experienced timewasters; been sat in a pub waiting for someone who had no intention of turning up. But I just report them and move on now. Not sure it's a good use of my time to then brood over changing the entire site."

The "timewasters" was aimed at those wasting time on timewasters.

The way I meet they turn up as there's no wasting of my time if they don't and for some that's where they get their kicks.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"The "timewasters" was aimed at those wasting time on timewasters.

"

Aaaah!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself.

Timewasters!

Personally in six years of being on here yet to encounter a timewaster: I'm not unique.

Six years ? you've been here six years ? Shaw shank redemption springs to mind....I'm hoping to be out on parole soon "

on and off, name change, but yes...but I'm still a newbie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself.

Timewasters!

Personally in six years of being on here yet to encounter a timewaster: I'm not unique.

Six years ? you've been here six years ? Shaw shank redemption springs to mind....I'm hoping to be out on parole soon

on and off, name change, but yes...but I'm still a newbie "

Stands alone in the prison exercise yard in bewilderment that you've lasted so long....you must be well ard.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself.

Timewasters!

Personally in six years of being on here yet to encounter a timewaster: I'm not unique.

Six years ? you've been here six years ? Shaw shank redemption springs to mind....I'm hoping to be out on parole soon

on and off, name change, but yes...but I'm still a newbie

Stands alone in the prison exercise yard in bewilderment that you've lasted so long....you must be well ard.

"

Are you calling me a dog?!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Had a long hard think about how to reduce the amount of timewasters (or at least give an indication who might be).

How about a button on everyone's profile. If we click on this button, this means we agree to a meet with that person. This can only be seen by yourself and the other person, but a number would show on your profile for "Meets agreed".

After this, if you meet up, then you click another button to show the meet went ahead.

The result would be that if you were in the process of arranging a meet, you could be more confident it would go ahead because if a profile had dozens of meets agreed, but few or none attended, then you be right to be more wary. Alternatively, if someone had a given number of meets agreed, and also showed a similar number that went ahead, you could go into it with more confidence.

Although you still wouldn't be able to name and shame, you could get a general idea who was wasting peoples time. We would be very reluctant to agree a meet with someone who wouldn't "Pre-meet verify" us.

Thoughts anyone?"

Flawed!

People who meet socially but get turned down would have the opportunity to be malicious.

The whole timewasteing thing in our opinion is crap its people who don't filter and do due diligence in the selection process.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself.

Timewasters!

Personally in six years of being on here yet to encounter a timewaster: I'm not unique.

Six years ? you've been here six years ? Shaw shank redemption springs to mind....I'm hoping to be out on parole soon

on and off, name change, but yes...but I'm still a newbie

Stands alone in the prison exercise yard in bewilderment that you've lasted so long....you must be well ard.

Are you calling me a dog?!!

"

Dear misstress, you are a lady of the hidden kind, as I too have been....errr hidden gent that is, so I have no idea if you are furry with a wet nose, but even if I thought you were then I would not be so rude to suggest you are ...can I stick a lead on you and sniff ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself."

This.

It never ceases to amaze how for some people timewasters are a huge recurrent problem, and yet many others rarely, if ever encounter them. And those that fall in to the former category never seem to realise that the only "solution to timewasters" is to look at what they are doing and how they could modify their behaviour.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex

Op you have a right to your opinion and to express it on here. People who have no intention of meeting can be a damn nuisance but if you complain about it or suggest a solution goodwill be told to either get over it or that it's somehow your fault for using a flawed selection process. I think that there's no harm in expressing your frustration on an open forum and that nearly all of us will encounter people with no intention of ever meeting however rigorous our selection process.

I thought your idea was quite good and might make some people think twice before suggesting a meet they had no intention of going through with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think spanking is the answer!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"I think spanking is the answer! "

Me too now what was the question?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The timewasters who get their kicks from wasting other people's time on here must love threads like this, all these people wasting time worrying about wasting time. I have been let down and I know it's annoying but don't let a few rude people spoilt your fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about a Final solution to timewasters? If you fail to arrive then the site admins can gas you.

It's the only way to be sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive had a few of those. Used to bother me but just block them now and think stuff em, move on to the next if there is a next

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Do people really spend hours and hours thinking about how to stop 'timewasters' on here? I don't give it a seconds thought myself."

this is the most sensible thing in the thread...

and someone has to say this as well... for as much as some go on about timewasters, then surely some of it has to go on the selection process....

not saying that it will catch everything... I can count the amount of times I have been caught out on one hand in the 7-8 years ish I have been swinging on internet...

I would love to, one day, sit with someone at a computer whilst they go thru selecting potential partners just to see what they do....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Personally in six years of being on here yet to encounter a timewaster: I'm not unique. "

Only 5 years on here for me, but I have never encountered a timewaster, and I think that's because my selection process is robust.

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By *ikkiBWoman
over a year ago

Falkirk

2 fake accounts, both agree to meet both then look like genuine people when its 2 fake accounts and its only seen by the two accounts so no ones the wiser its two fakes giving each other the impression its genuine profiles

If 2 fake accounts can verify each other then this would just end up the same and make it even harder to judge real from fake

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Personally in six years of being on here yet to encounter a timewaster: I'm not unique.

Only 5 years on here for me, but I have never encountered a timewaster, and I think that's because my selection process is robust."

I'm a relative newbie too as only been here five years and in that time I've been let down 3 times....and i take responcibility for each time as I didnt follow my usual process. so I really dont see the "time waster" problem that so many posters go on about and I certainly don't spend hours thinking about it. Simple report, block and move on if it ever happens.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Op you have a right to your opinion and to express it on here. People who have no intention of meeting can be a damn nuisance but if you complain about it or suggest a solution goodwill be told to either get over it or that it's somehow your fault for using a flawed selection process. I think that there's no harm in expressing your frustration on an open forum and that nearly all of us will encounter people with no intention of ever meeting however rigorous our selection process.

I thought your idea was quite good and might make some people think twice before suggesting a meet they had no intention of going through with."

Thank you, we appreciate your positive comments. We do wonder why anyone bothers with ideas and the forums when the answer from certain people is always to move on and not waste time worrying about it.

It was just a suggestion to try and make the site more enjoyable.

For some reason, certain people think that their opinion is more valuable than others.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex

I don't think they think it's more valuable I think that a lot of people don't think it through properly and just answer with the standard "block and move on". I find that stock answer slightly patronising and disresectful to someones feelings and genuine concerns but then I could always........block and move on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the meet gets cancelled it shows up on both profiles which isn't fair on the one that got stood up. I think we all have to accept that there are a lof of dreamers, picture collectors and time wasters on this site and I've had my share. Just accept and move on."

Well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The reason fakes and time wasters are around is because lots of people fall for it, for not being wise to it (or just too desperate to get laid to make better checks).

The common denominator in having timewasters waste your time is YOU.

Make a better effort to review your selection and checking processes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The reason fakes and time wasters are around is because lots of people fall for it, for not being wise to it (or just too desperate to get laid to make better checks).

The common denominator in having timewasters waste your time is YOU.

Make a better effort to review your selection and checking processes."

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The reason fakes and time wasters are around is because lots of people fall for it, for not being wise to it (or just too desperate to get laid to make better checks).

The common denominator in having timewasters waste your time is YOU.

Make a better effort to review your selection and checking processes."

No. The common denominator is that we are all using FAB.

So by that logic no-one should use FAB?

We can't quite follow the reasoning that we are responsible because we are "not being wise to it" or "desperate to get laid" and to blame the fact that there are timewasters on the people who are subjected to them is frankly ridiculous.

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By *win PeaksCouple
over a year ago

Northamptonshire


"This would obviously be an optional feature, so who would display the fact that their car broke down/ auntie's cat had died/ caught their foreskin in zipper

Bit like veris really "

Please, not the foreskin in the zipper! That is not funny.........brings out a shiver.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I don't think they think it's more valuable I think that a lot of people don't think it through properly and just answer with the standard "block and move on". I find that stock answer slightly patronising and disresectful to someones feelings and genuine concerns but then I could always........block and move on "

Haha indeed. As usual people have jumped to conclusions and not read the original post correctly.

We never mentioned people not turning up for meets, although the majority of posts seem to concentrate on this.

Our original post was a suggestion which may help out timewasters before a possible meet was agreed.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo

So what if you all agree to a meet and then something is said to put you off meeting after all? Do we have to still meet that person anyway or a black mark goes against our profile?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So what if you all agree to a meet and then something is said to put you off meeting after all? Do we have to still meet that person anyway or a black mark goes against our profile? "

No, not at all. There will always be genuine reasons why a meet does not go ahead.

The general idea was that it would be helpful if, for example, a profile states that a number of meets had been agreed but had not gone ahead.

If this system was in place, would you consider meeting someone who had agreed 10 meets and not attended one?

Alternatively would you agree to meet someone who who refused to commit to the meet? This would surely also ring alarm bells

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo

The point I was making was....if we agreed to a meet with someone and then that person did or said something to put us off them, if we then decided against the meet we would have a black mark on our profile as arranging a meet and not going through with it because of something the man said AFTER arranging the meet.

We have had this happen on another site and we changed our mind about meeting the person, so we would be classed as timewasters because we had the nerve to not want to meet someone after all.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"The reason fakes and time wasters are around is because lots of people fall for it, for not being wise to it (or just too desperate to get laid to make better checks).

The common denominator in having timewasters waste your time is YOU.

Make a better effort to review your selection and checking processes.

No. The common denominator is that we are all using FAB.

So by that logic no-one should use FAB?

We can't quite follow the reasoning that we are responsible because we are "not being wise to it" or "desperate to get laid" and to blame the fact that there are timewasters on the people who are subjected to them is frankly ridiculous."

actually not quite.... because we have spoken in the past i feel i know you a bit...

I would agree with what they have said... let me put it slightly differently...

there is a saying.... "Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it..."

yes.. one or two timewasters may be unlucky.. and three or four may be unfortunate... but anything after that starts being a pattern.. and the only person who can break that pattern is you...

its not all you... but hopefully you would accept some of it is, as if you go la la la and blame everything else around you.. it isn't constructive, and it will keep on happening

which at some point has to be the selection process you go thru... if it isn't working, then surely you would change it..... just as you would do with anything else in life that wasn't working...

its not a case of accepting all the blame and I don't think anyone here has said that, but it is a case of taking some responsibilty for the way you use the site....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The reason fakes and time wasters are around is because lots of people fall for it, for not being wise to it (or just too desperate to get laid to make better checks).

The common denominator in having timewasters waste your time is YOU.

Make a better effort to review your selection and checking processes.

No. The common denominator is that we are all using FAB.

So by that logic no-one should use FAB?

We can't quite follow the reasoning that we are responsible because we are "not being wise to it" or "desperate to get laid" and to blame the fact that there are timewasters on the people who are subjected to them is frankly ridiculous."

We and others have never encountered timewasters using fab, so dont see why we stop using it..

due diligence works wonders.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The reason fakes and time wasters are around is because lots of people fall for it, for not being wise to it (or just too desperate to get laid to make better checks).

The common denominator in having timewasters waste your time is YOU.

Make a better effort to review your selection and checking processes.

No. The common denominator is that we are all using FAB.

So by that logic no-one should use FAB?

We can't quite follow the reasoning that we are responsible because we are "not being wise to it" or "desperate to get laid" and to blame the fact that there are timewasters on the people who are subjected to them is frankly ridiculous.

We and others have never encountered timewasters using fab, so dont see why we stop using it..

due diligence works wonders."

Well, differing opinions on this one.

We just thought it would be helpful to have another tool to try and make this a better site.

We realise that no method is foolproof, but the more tools you can have at your disposal the better.

As previous people who have disagreed with us regarding this, you don't have to use it. Like the verification tool, its not compulsory, just helpful.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

I will admit, after being here for about 4 years, I have never encountered a time waster, yes I have been let down by a few fantasists, but I had an inkling before hand (they went quiet after the date was arranged), so wasn't as if I was sitting here waiting on them to arrive, and yes, I do have a rather robust selection criteria, but some do slip through the net

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Since this is (mostly) a free site, Admin have a minimal amount of cash to invest in enhancements. They could invest programming resources in an 'optional' enhancement for those who haven't got the nous to out timewasters for themselves. Or they could trust us to do our own due diligence, and invest the programming resources in responding to the ever-changing technology of the world we live in, to ensure that Fab is open and inclusive for all.

I know which I would prefer them to do!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex

we've encountered people that could be described as timewasters, the ones who message endlessly and always have an excuse not to meet, the ones who go quiet in the days before an agreed meet etc. Of course we know NOW that anyone who wont arrange a meet within a couple of messages is unlikely ever to and we can't possibly know in advance that someone will stop messaging just beforehand. In our opinion we do everything we can to prevent these things happening but when it does we don't blame ourselves or our selection process

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No button needed, they probably genuinely would like to meet, may be something important came up they couldn't avoid. So let's help them meet people when it's more convient for them....I say we all go around their house, stand in the garden and explain to anyone willing to listen what the FAB support group is...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both might turn up on the meet...

They don't get on and one decides to press the no show button!!

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto

As with all things, such a system could be gamed. So no.

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