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"But if they use a condom with you, then why is it an issue?" I'm not prepared to take the risk. | |||
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"How do you knw they were not with long term partners? In my pics I've got those type of pictures doesn't mean I bareback " Because when I saw the uploaded pics on my 'updates' feed I messaged them and asked them and they both confirmed they'd barebacked with recent meets and these were the resulting pics. | |||
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"I've been chatting to 2 guys on here whom I've been very interested in meeting up with. But, in the last 2 days they've both uploaded pics clearly showing themselves barebacking with recent meets. Perhaps I should have posed the question to them at the beginning, and I will be doing this from now on, but I'm so sad. I was really interested in them but I just can't bring myself to meet with people who bareback with swingers/strangers (I appreciate couples/people in relationships will bareback with each other) So, after weeks of effort, I'm back to the drawing board. " Surely that should be a sigh of relief rather than a sad face, ok you missed out on a meet but there will be ones. Imagine how you would have felt fibding out on the night | |||
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"How do you knw they were not with long term partners? In my pics I've got those type of pictures doesn't mean I bareback Because when I saw the uploaded pics on my 'updates' feed I messaged them and asked them and they both confirmed they'd barebacked with recent meets and these were the resulting pics. " Got you now, don't blame you for pulling out they should be honest on their profiles if that's what they are in to | |||
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"I've been chatting to 2 guys on here whom I've been very interested in meeting up with. But, in the last 2 days they've both uploaded pics clearly showing themselves barebacking with recent meets. Perhaps I should have posed the question to them at the beginning, and I will be doing this from now on, but I'm so sad. I was really interested in them but I just can't bring myself to meet with people who bareback with swingers/strangers (I appreciate couples/people in relationships will bareback with each other) So, after weeks of effort, I'm back to the drawing board. " as much as i feel for you... in the end I think you have to go in with the mindset that everyone at some point has played bareback.... and that in the end the only person who can look out for your health is you.... you can protect yourself in the best way you can, I would never rely on what someone else says or does to do that..... | |||
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"So you believe, if you have not seen a photo to the contrary, that if a guy says safe sex only then he really has kept to that with all his sexual partners. Even though the guy is on a swingers site? You must forgive me saying that is naive beyond belief!" That's not what I'm saying at all. I would prefer people to be more open about the fact that they do bareback with strangers. I've seen profiles saying they won't bareback and profiles saying that they do - makes things much easier for process of elimination. | |||
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"How do you knw they were not with long term partners? In my pics I've got those type of pictures doesn't mean I bareback Because when I saw the uploaded pics on my 'updates' feed I messaged them and asked them and they both confirmed they'd barebacked with recent meets and these were the resulting pics. " Well if you had indicated earlier on that you wouldn't meet them if they had played bareback with other meets, they could simply not have uploaded the offending pics, and you'd be non the wiser. See how flimsy an assumption that would be? | |||
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"So you believe, if you have not seen a photo to the contrary, that if a guy says safe sex only then he really has kept to that with all his sexual partners. Even though the guy is on a swingers site? You must forgive me saying that is naive beyond belief!" I don't believe a single person on this site has never barebacked with anyone, don't believe it As with that you have to assume anyone you meet on here has a bareback history, whether that's with a wife or multiple swingers, you can only protect yourself and not assume anything, making assumptions based on photos on here is a recipe for disaster | |||
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"I'm quite shocked at some of the responses questioning why I would want to ensure my safety. Yes, condoms are great, they are helpful, and no I don't think that everyone has had safe sex all of the time - I certainly haven't with previous partners, but if I know that someone is actively having bareback sex with strangers then it is my choice to choose not to play with them - even using protection. Even though I play safe, I still get checked at the gum clinic regularly. My personal heath is paramount. " | |||
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"I'm quite shocked at some of the responses questioning why I would want to ensure my safety. Yes, condoms are great, they are helpful, and no I don't think that everyone has had safe sex all of the time - I certainly haven't with previous partners, but if I know that someone is actively having bareback sex with strangers then it is my choice to choose not to play with them - even using protection. Even though I play safe, I still get checked at the gum clinic regularly. My personal heath is paramount. " I definitely agree that the choice to play with them is yours alone. | |||
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"I'm quite shocked at some of the responses questioning why I would want to ensure my safety. Yes, condoms are great, they are helpful, and no I don't think that everyone has had safe sex all of the time - I certainly haven't with previous partners, but if I know that someone is actively having bareback sex with strangers then it is my choice to choose not to play with them - even using protection. Even though I play safe, I still get checked at the gum clinic regularly. My personal heath is paramount. " I'm not questioning your decision, which in itself is admirable. I'm questioning your assumption that anything would have been different had you not found out. If the guys hadn't uploaded the pics, and not said anything, you wouldn't have known. You'd have met one, maybe both of them, used a condom, had sex and embraced all associated risks that come with that. And you still wouldn't have known. And yet, they would still be the same two guys, minus your knowledge of their past sexual history. | |||
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" I'm not questioning your decision, which in itself is admirable. I'm questioning your assumption that anything would have been different had you not found out. If the guys hadn't uploaded the pics, and not said anything, you wouldn't have known. You'd have met one, maybe both of them, used a condom, had sex and embraced all associated risks that come with that. And you still wouldn't have known. And yet, they would still be the same two guys, minus your knowledge of their past sexual history." Ignorance really IS bliss..... KNOWING makes all the difference... | |||
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"I'm quite shocked at some of the responses questioning why I would want to ensure my safety. Yes, condoms are great, they are helpful, and no I don't think that everyone has had safe sex all of the time - I certainly haven't with previous partners, but if I know that someone is actively having bareback sex with strangers then it is my choice to choose not to play with them - even using protection. Even though I play safe, I still get checked at the gum clinic regularly. My personal heath is paramount. I'm not questioning your decision, which in itself is admirable. I'm questioning your assumption that anything would have been different had you not found out. If the guys hadn't uploaded the pics, and not said anything, you wouldn't have known. You'd have met one, maybe both of them, used a condom, had sex and embraced all associated risks that come with that. And you still wouldn't have known. And yet, they would still be the same two guys, minus your knowledge of their past sexual history." No, the outcome of this is that I have learnt a lesson. I will now always ask first (yes, before anyone says it - they can still lie) but its something I haven't been doing but will do from now on. | |||
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"I'm quite shocked at some of the responses questioning why I would want to ensure my safety. Yes, condoms are great, they are helpful, and no I don't think that everyone has had safe sex all of the time - I certainly haven't with previous partners, but if I know that someone is actively having bareback sex with strangers then it is my choice to choose not to play with them - even using protection. Even though I play safe, I still get checked at the gum clinic regularly. My personal heath is paramount. " I've cancelled a meet before now as the young man kept going on and on about bareback sex. He even came out with that old line 'Oh I wouldn't have bare back sex with anyone else' Ie right Good for you for sticking to your principles and better luck next time | |||
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" No, the outcome of this is that I have learnt a lesson. I will now always ask first (yes, before anyone says it - they can still lie) but its something I haven't been doing but will do from now on. " Best of luck. While i don't think asking if they have previously barebacked will make much difference (a lot of men, women and couples on this site will say the right things to get what they want), if it puts your mind at ease concerning a potential meet, then that is what is most important. | |||
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"So you believe, if you have not seen a photo to the contrary, that if a guy says safe sex only then he really has kept to that with all his sexual partners. Even though the guy is on a swingers site? You must forgive me saying that is naive beyond belief! That's not what I'm saying at all. I would prefer people to be more open about the fact that they do bareback with strangers. I've seen profiles saying they won't bareback and profiles saying that they do - makes things much easier for process of elimination. " If its any consulation I think you did right. | |||
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"I can never understand this (not having a go just it seems strange to me). So long as they use condoms with you, does it matter what they do with others? If you meet someone at a club, do you ask them their life history? Of do you just make sure you use condoms? It like people who say we would never play with a married man singly, If you go to clubs, are you really sure they are single? You have to do what you think best, but IHMO so long as you use condoms then whats the problem?" not everyone goes to clubs for starters.. condoms arent 100% so having it laid open for you to see how risky they play its a turn off.. simple really | |||
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"One sure outcome of this thread has been to ensure that more people on this site will hide the truth of what they do in order to get what they want. " bingo... which is why the motto in swinging could almost be D.T.A Don't Trust Anyone....... as Blackshadow said, I don't think anyone is questioning the decision at all... what I think what people are saying that up to a point we are all responsible for our own sexual health.... and if someone showed me a certificate to say they had no sexual infections in the past, I would still not believe them and put my health in the hands of someone else so the only person I trust with my sexual health is me... and the only person who can keep up that good sexual health history is also me... thats means, for me, using protection and going to the GUM clinic .... that wouldn't change whoever I was playing with... a healthy dose of scepticism and realism over nieveity any day of the week.... | |||
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"So you believe, if you have not seen a photo to the contrary, that if a guy says safe sex only then he really has kept to that with all his sexual partners. Even though the guy is on a swingers site? You must forgive me saying that is naive beyond belief!" Indeed!! | |||
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"But if they use a condom with you, then why is it an issue?" I always assume everyone I meet has engaged in bareback gangbangs and seek to minimise any risk to myself as best I can, short of wearing a full haz mat suit! | |||
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"So you believe, if you have not seen a photo to the contrary, that if a guy says safe sex only then he really has kept to that with all his sexual partners. Even though the guy is on a swingers site? You must forgive me saying that is naive beyond belief! Indeed!!" I would also say the same of single women, couples - whoever. Its not just guys. Its ANYONE. The only person you know the history of 100% is yourself. | |||
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"I'm quite shocked at some of the responses questioning why I would want to ensure my safety. Yes, condoms are great, they are helpful, and no I don't think that everyone has had safe sex all of the time - I certainly haven't with previous partners, but if I know that someone is actively having bareback sex with strangers then it is my choice to choose not to play with them - even using protection. Even though I play safe, I still get checked at the gum clinic regularly. My personal heath is paramount. " | |||
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"So you believe, if you have not seen a photo to the contrary, that if a guy says safe sex only then he really has kept to that with all his sexual partners. Even though the guy is on a swingers site? You must forgive me saying that is naive beyond belief! Indeed!! I would also say the same of single women, couples - whoever. Its not just guys. Its ANYONE. The only person you know the history of 100% is yourself. " | |||
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"So you believe, if you have not seen a photo to the contrary, that if a guy says safe sex only then he really has kept to that with all his sexual partners. Even though the guy is on a swingers site? You must forgive me saying that is naive beyond belief! Indeed!! I would also say the same of single women, couples - whoever. Its not just guys. Its ANYONE. The only person you know the history of 100% is yourself. " Exactly. The only person I trust is me. I'm not against the OP, I think she's right in not meeting them. I just don't see the point in asking future meets if they bareback. Trust no-one. | |||
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"So you believe, if you have not seen a photo to the contrary, that if a guy says safe sex only then he really has kept to that with all his sexual partners. Even though the guy is on a swingers site? You must forgive me saying that is naive beyond belief!" Scary more than naive I thought. | |||
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"Dear OP I get what you are saying. I doubt you are naïve enough to assume because you haven't seen someone bareback it must mean they never would or have.... and thus they must be safe. I have felt the same as you.... on more than one occasion. As the saying goes... ignorance is bliss. But once the cat is out of the bag and the bareback photos are staring you in the face... there is no going back and pretending you don't know. I really don't care how hot and fit and charming a guy is, if he has bareback photos or has played with someone who openly states they are a sperm receptor, I wouldn't touch them. I take responsibility for my own health and have my own rules... one of which is to do what I feel happy doing. I don't feel happy fucking someone I KNOW is happy to throw caution to the wind for the sake of a shag. If anyone thinks I am foolish for feeling this way they can go fuck themselves.... because I'm not changing my mind to keep some other fucker happy." Well said that woman! We all have to go with the things we feel safest and most comfortable with. | |||
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"Dear OP I get what you are saying. I doubt you are naïve enough to assume because you haven't seen someone bareback it must mean they never would or have.... and thus they must be safe. I have felt the same as you.... on more than one occasion. As the saying goes... ignorance is bliss. But once the cat is out of the bag and the bareback photos are staring you in the face... there is no going back and pretending you don't know. I really don't care how hot and fit and charming a guy is, if he has bareback photos or has played with someone who openly states they are a sperm receptor, I wouldn't touch them. I take responsibility for my own health and have my own rules... one of which is to do what I feel happy doing. I don't feel happy fucking someone I KNOW is happy to throw caution to the wind for the sake of a shag. If anyone thinks I am foolish for feeling this way they can go fuck themselves.... because I'm not changing my mind to keep some other fucker happy." | |||
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"One sure outcome of this thread has been to ensure that more people on this site will hide the truth of what they do in order to get what they want. " I fear you're right. | |||
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"One sure outcome of this thread has been to ensure that more people on this site will hide the truth of what they do in order to get what they want. bingo... which is why the motto in swinging could almost be D.T.A Don't Trust Anyone....... as Blackshadow said, I don't think anyone is questioning the decision at all... what I think what people are saying that up to a point we are all responsible for our own sexual health.... and if someone showed me a certificate to say they had no sexual infections in the past, I would still not believe them and put my health in the hands of someone else so the only person I trust with my sexual health is me... and the only person who can keep up that good sexual health history is also me... thats means, for me, using protection and going to the GUM clinic .... that wouldn't change whoever I was playing with... a healthy dose of scepticism and realism over nieveity any day of the week...." Exactly this! | |||
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"I've been chatting to 2 guys on here whom I've been very interested in meeting up with. But, in the last 2 days they've both uploaded pics clearly showing themselves barebacking with recent meets. Perhaps I should have posed the question to them at the beginning, and I will be doing this from now on, but I'm so sad. I was really interested in them but I just can't bring myself to meet with people who bareback with swingers/strangers (I appreciate couples/people in relationships will bareback with each other) So, after weeks of effort, I'm back to the drawing board. " I have only ever bb with long term partners, you say that you wouldnt take the risk with anyone whom bb's, nothing is every 100% safe after all, but what I will say that as I do not want to put anyone at risk then condoms are always a must! I do hate those that say, well they look clean etc. No one is ever that sure! It only takes one cock up so to speak and game over. | |||
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"You posted a link that wasn't allowed. " What a link to an NHS site about sexual health? Why would that not be allowed? | |||
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"I've been chatting to 2 guys on here whom I've been very interested in meeting up with. But, in the last 2 days they've both uploaded pics clearly showing themselves barebacking with recent meets. Perhaps I should have posed the question to them at the beginning, and I will be doing this from now on, but I'm so sad. I was really interested in them but I just can't bring myself to meet with people who bareback with swingers/strangers (I appreciate couples/people in relationships will bareback with each other) So, after weeks of effort, I'm back to the drawing board. " I don't blame you trust is important and its just not worth playing with people who bareback in my book. | |||
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"You posted a link that wasn't allowed. What a link to an NHS site about sexual health? Why would that not be allowed?" As far as I remember it wasn't an offical NHS site. Post one of those and it will be fine | |||
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"But if they use a condom with you, then why is it an issue? I'm not prepared to take the risk. " So you actually didn't lose anything, you chose not to go thru with the meets. That is choice not loss. | |||
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"I can never understand this (not having a go just it seems strange to me). So long as they use condoms with you, does it matter what they do with others? If you meet someone at a club, do you ask them their life history? Of do you just make sure you use condoms? It like people who say we would never play with a married man singly, If you go to clubs, are you really sure they are single? You have to do what you think best, but IHMO so long as you use condoms then whats the problem?" I agree. The OP mentioned they didn't want to take the risk. If you practise safe sex, from what?! Honestly, if you that worried, maybe you stop sleeping around with multiple people you meet online. Just a thought... | |||
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"I can never understand this (not having a go just it seems strange to me). So long as they use condoms with you, does it matter what they do with others? If you meet someone at a club, do you ask them their life history? Of do you just make sure you use condoms? It like people who say we would never play with a married man singly, If you go to clubs, are you really sure they are single? You have to do what you think best, but IHMO so long as you use condoms then whats the problem? I agree. The OP mentioned they didn't want to take the risk. If you practise safe sex, from what?! Honestly, if you that worried, maybe you stop sleeping around with multiple people you meet online. Just a thought..." You're really gonna use the term 'sleeping around' on a swingers site? | |||
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"But if they use a condom with you, then why is it an issue?" Like me, and a lot of my swinging friends feel, if someone goes bb they are more likely to catch a std then people who play safe. Puts me more at risk, and if there was a accident of a condom breaking, I would be running down to the clinic. | |||
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"The way some people go on about the risks makes me wonder why they choose to have sex with multiple partners in the first instance, I understand that safety is a priority, but at what point can it be considered obsessive?? Surely the worry takes away the fun of a meeting strangers for sex?!? I'm perplexed " I think that's the point some of us are trying to make. Whilst I do understand where the op is coming from with regards being put off from meeting people: I've declined meeting someone for less, it's the paranoia I don't get. None of us has to be here! If the thought of catching a std by having sex with multiple sexual partners, total strangers, why they're here Lord knows! | |||
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"Condoms don't guarantee safe sex anymore...... A friend of mine was wearing one when he was shot by the woman's husband. " | |||
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"The way some people go on about the risks makes me wonder why they choose to have sex with multiple partners in the first instance, I understand that safety is a priority, but at what point can it be considered obsessive?? Surely the worry takes away the fun of a meeting strangers for sex?!? I'm perplexed I think that's the point some of us are trying to make. Whilst I do understand where the op is coming from with regards being put off from meeting people: I've declined meeting someone for less, it's the paranoia I don't get. None of us has to be here! If the thought of catching a std by having sex with multiple sexual partners, total strangers, why they're here Lord knows! " Exactly! It's the paranoia I don't get, not the insistence on safe sex! Also, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting mailed off forum by people demanding that I agree with them! There seem to be some serious issues with some people on here! | |||
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" Honestly, if you that worried, maybe you stop sleeping around with multiple people you meet online. Just a thought... You're really gonna use the term 'sleeping around' on a swingers site? " The point is a valid one. Not sure why you felt the need to cherrypick the response. | |||
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"The way some people go on about the risks makes me wonder why they choose to have sex with multiple partners in the first instance, I understand that safety is a priority, but at what point can it be considered obsessive?? Surely the worry takes away the fun of a meeting strangers for sex?!? I'm perplexed I think that's the point some of us are trying to make. Whilst I do understand where the op is coming from with regards being put off from meeting people: I've declined meeting someone for less, it's the paranoia I don't get. None of us has to be here! If the thought of catching a std by having sex with multiple sexual partners, total strangers, why they're here Lord knows! Exactly! It's the paranoia I don't get, not the insistence on safe sex! Also, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting mailed off forum by people demanding that I agree with them! There seem to be some serious issues with some people on here!" | |||
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" Honestly, if you that worried, maybe you stop sleeping around with multiple people you meet online. Just a thought... You're really gonna use the term 'sleeping around' on a swingers site? The point is a valid one. Not sure why you felt the need to cherrypick the response." Thanks. People can cherrypick all they want. It's the reality of the lifestyle. | |||
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"The way some people go on about the risks makes me wonder why they choose to have sex with multiple partners in the first instance, I understand that safety is a priority, but at what point can it be considered obsessive?? Surely the worry takes away the fun of a meeting strangers for sex?!? I'm perplexed I think that's the point some of us are trying to make. Whilst I do understand where the op is coming from with regards being put off from meeting people: I've declined meeting someone for less, it's the paranoia I don't get. None of us has to be here! If the thought of catching a std by having sex with multiple sexual partners, total strangers, why they're here Lord knows! " | |||
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"..... Id never use the term ignorance is bliss, " You just did..... but I guess you meant it in a less literal context. | |||
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"But if they use a condom with you, then why is it an issue?" spot on. everyone has fucked bare back and everyone does oral,same difference | |||
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"But if they use a condom with you, then why is it an issue? spot on. everyone has fucked bare back and everyone does oral,same difference" I know the potential risks of driving in bad weather... and thus I take precautions to make that risk acceptable to me. However, I recon watching '100 Most Horrific Motorway Crashes' just before setting off might dampen my enthusiasm a tad. | |||
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"the choice of not having sex with anyone for any reason is clear and well obviously acceptable what isnt clear is the fact we ALL as a sexual group practice unsafe sex.. that is sex with non long term partners and of course its just as likely to be the same on any adult meeting site..not just swingers sites not too sure if anyone has ever answered my question on female bisexual play...surely protection should be used also?.. anyway..I'm yet to see a dental dam being brought out in any meet Ive witnessed " I think it's fair to say that very few people practice completely safe sex. Stis can definitely be passed orally from female to female or by sharing toys. As so many have said we have two choices take responsibility for your own health or don't get involved with.any lifestyle that puts you at risk. | |||
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"..... Id never use the term ignorance is bliss, You just did..... but I guess you meant it in a less literal context. " odd | |||
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