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"Thanks for your view which aligns with our own. Should there be a forum page for “those that want to meet for sex ? “" There is the meets and events section on here which is definitely offering what you are looking for. | |||
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"Thanks for your view which aligns with our own. Should there be a forum page for “those that want to meet for sex ? “ There is the meets and events section on here which is definitely offering what you are looking for. " You beat me to it, I was just about to add this Forum page link: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/meets | |||
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"How many times when you have messaged others for a period of time and you send them a telephone number to say hello do they actually call you. ? " My success rate is, at a guess, about 1 in 250 ☹️ but this could be down to many other factors, my age, my body type, my penis size, my facial hair... | |||
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"We often find ourselves thinking back to 2007 the year we started our adventure into the swing g lifestyle. No pocket Computors back then no pocket video cameras and face book hardly existed. Only one chat room on Fab and phones were for calling people to chat and arrange to meet. Where has the simple ways of having fun gone. We ask is “swinging “ now just social exhibitionism ? Loads of socials and thousands of verifications for chatting and drinking !!! Does anyone else see the changes ? " I imagine you’ll get lynched for your thoughts with people defending the fact that “swinging” is a broad field, but I echo your sentiments. Swinging has evolved and isn’t about just sex or even just socials anymore: there are TV documentaries and series about it; there are “models” using it to promote their own platforms and make money out of it; there are people who just want to “collab” and pose; there are people who just want to fantasise about it and talk dirty or people who just want to collect pics or simply make friends etc. As with anything, things can become mainstream and attractive to the masses or the people who want to use it to feather their nest. We too have found Fab and swinging a ball ache in recent years (Covid was the start of the decline when everyone was bored at home and this place became rammed with an abundance of dreamers, fakes and time wasters) and have not been as active with it because we lost faith a bit. Easiest way to filter that out is to just get to a club but even then you’ll still see the above sometimes. Good luck. | |||
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"⬆️👏👏👏👏👏👏" Our comment? Xx | |||
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"You object to people getting veris for socials? Veris are just there to give an indication someone is real and as they say they are, so surely it makes no difference whether the veri is from meeting someone for sex or a cup of tea." We do not object to verification for social, but do think that is little more than a cam verified. We should have a sex verified option. Meeting is not the same as bedding. Traveling 200 miles for a chat is not our thing. | |||
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"We don't have the same worries as you, OP, but the biggest change we have noticed is a massive increase (as measured by the number of forum posts) in the number of people who now view indecent exposure and nonconsensual exhibitionism as "swinging"." This this this. And all the desperate single men who have completed T*nder, got to the final boss level and come here looking for casual shags. That’s not swinging. | |||
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"We don't have the same worries as you, OP, but the biggest change we have noticed is a massive increase (as measured by the number of forum posts) in the number of people who now view indecent exposure and nonconsensual exhibitionism as "swinging". This this this. And all the desperate single men who have completed T*nder, got to the final boss level and come here looking for casual shags. That’s not swinging." I get your point about people looking for a shag comment but there are thousands of single Women and couples looking to only meet Men and have no interest in meeting couples | |||
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"⬆️👏👏👏👏👏👏 Our comment? Xx" Yep. Spot on. Xx | |||
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"Just a fact from the pages on fab this minute. 37520 people on line it says and couples looking to meet today nation wide is 127 !!!! This is where we started from. ??? " Out of them 37520 people online only a tiny fraction will use the forums or even post meets, It will be harder for new couples but most couples who have been around for years will have built up a network of couples they have met through socials and clubs | |||
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"⬆️👏👏👏👏👏👏 Our comment? Xx" Yep, spot on! So many flakes, fakes, dreamers and illiterate… | |||
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"⬆️👏👏👏👏👏👏 Our comment? Xx Yep, spot on! So many flakes, fakes, dreamers and illiterate…" Literally just deleted out account on an unnamed app (won’t mention as per forum rules) because it was full of posers. Literally people posting what they had for dinner etc. | |||
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"Excellent approach. Just wish we had local clubs " If I see a club night that I really fancy I will travel to it as long as it’s not a crazy distance away. Family and friends just think I enjoy going to random places 😂 | |||
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"You object to people getting veris for socials? Veris are just there to give an indication someone is real and as they say they are, so surely it makes no difference whether the veri is from meeting someone for sex or a cup of tea. We do not object to verification for social, but do think that is little more than a cam verified. We should have a sex verified option. Meeting is not the same as bedding. Traveling 200 miles for a chat is not our thing." A veri isn’t an achievement or a badge of honour. So it doesn’t matter what it is ‘for’, its only purpose is to give people something to help them judge the veracity of a profile. So whether people had sex or a cup of tea, they still met in person, and this is why it is much more useful for that purpose than a cam veri. But any veri can be fake - it’s still up to the person reading it to use their judgement as to whether that is someone they want to contact or not. | |||
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"Just a fact from the pages on fab this minute. 37520 people on line it says and couples looking to meet today nation wide is 127 !!!! This is where we started from. ??? " Definitely an interesting stat! That said, plenty of people who are here to meet, focus on those that are looking for the same things you are and ignore those who aren't. Can take a bit of work but it is worth it. | |||
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"How many times have you posted a meet and it has resulted in intimate fun ? " Every single one. We don’t have any issues with meeting on here. We’re flexible, happy to travel and are pretty easy going. | |||
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"Thanks for your view which aligns with our own. Should there be a forum page for “those that want to meet for sex ? “" Wow !….you mean there are such people on Fab ??? | |||
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"How many times when you have messaged others for a period of time and you send them a telephone number to say hello do they actually call you. ? " Offering a chat on the phone definitely sorts the wheat from the chaff! It’s amazing how many hot to trot ‘females’ and ‘couples’ go quiet on you when you offer this HUGE step to authenticity! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"To support our question we offer the following Dictionary definition of swinging: SWINGING (sexual practice) “Swinging, earlier commonly known as wife-swapping, is a sexual activity in which both singles and partners in a committed relationship sexually engage with others for recreational purposes.”" Sex does not have to mean fucking, but we all know that is where most want to go. We still hold we need a sexual veri? | |||
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"Lol I have plenty of cock here in Oxfordshire mate. I'm not driving to Norwich for it ![]() | |||
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"Sorry but for clarity we have no objection or comment to anyone’s reasons for verifications. Our question was do people in the majority use swinging sites as an extension to Facebook rather than use it to find mutual players. Trying to separate the “talkers” from the “players” !! " I get that but the point is, you may not know all the ways some people are using the site as they may not advertise the times they meet others to play. Doesn’t meet they’re not though. | |||
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"Lol I have plenty of cock here in Oxfordshire mate. I'm not driving to Norwich for it ![]() funny enough we have cars here in Norwich which can get us to Oxfordshire. | |||
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"We often find ourselves thinking back to 2007 the year we started our adventure into the swing g lifestyle. No pocket Computors back then no pocket video cameras and face book hardly existed. Only one chat room on Fab and phones were for calling people to chat and arrange to meet. Where has the simple ways of having fun gone. We ask is “swinging “ now just social exhibitionism ? Loads of socials and thousands of verifications for chatting and drinking !!! Does anyone else see the changes ? " . Even before Fabs and 2007 I use to attend a couple of spa’s , a club , adult cinema in London.When I use to attend socials and I hope to again in the future it was to have a night out with like minded adults.I also think that socials can be used to build up a connection with a view to organising future meets with someone.When I go to my local club or spa it is to have a night out with like minded adults and if some adult fun comes my way then so much the better. At the end of the day Fabs is what we all choose to make it.For me as a single guy who can’t accommodate , not very photogenic socials , club and spa work best for me. | |||
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"Not saying the site does not work for us. The conversation was started to discuss how so many people use swinging sites as just social media platforms. We are very fortunate to have some gorgeous regular friends who we meet. Even going on holiday with our special friends. We just noted that so many profiles on here have no intention of swinging. That’s all x" If you use 'reply+quote' it'll be easier to see who you're replying to. I joined in 2008 as a single (a few years on another site prior). I met purely via the site until I started clubbing in 2009, became a couple on here in 2011, back to being a single in 2023 and now have two partners, both of whom came from the site. In all those years I've met via messages on here, organised socials and clubs. Plus networking and meeting friends of friends. I/we still do. But we have no intention of meeting 'players' just looking for a quick bunk up, a notch on a bedpost or another veri. We're social animals. That doesn't mean we don't have sex or meet new people. It simply means we need to enjoy someone's company and conversation and be attracted to them as a person rather than just a hole or dick. Has the site changed? Not in my mind. Others will obviously feel differently. But I do think that's as much down to age, geography and choice of approach (just online or clubs/socials too). The site still has all the same tools it had in 2007. There's still a lot of the same people here from when I joined too. It's not always the site that's changed. Sometimes it's the users, their wants and often it's down to them not finding it as easy to find company as when they were a few years younger. Something that I can honestly say I've found myself. But that's life. We all get older and sometimes aren't as willing to recognise the fact we're not as young/attractive/in demand as we once were. 🤷♂️ | |||
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"I have seen lots of changes on this site, when I started off it was a swinging site, full of like minded people swingers. Now it's all about socialising and drinking and just endless chatting. The definition of swinging is a group of people meeting up for SEX. So many people on here even say they don't meet. " This is what we were saying from the start of this thread. You can see from the number of responses above it seems we are in the minority now | |||
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"I can't be arsed with socials. " Same as you we joined to swing and trust us we find all we need but Alison has Facebook for social media. We would never suggest that there is anything wrong with anyone’s interpretation of swinging. We simply asked the question is swinging being lost behind social media | |||
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"I guess the scene has changed, there are so many timewasters and dreamers on here. We don't do private meets for that reason and don't do socials either as our time is limited and we want to fuck . We go to clubs to be social and have sex with others , we love the club scene, it cuts out all the bs and it's pressure free and fun. " It does indeed show from the comments above we now have a very Split View of “Swinging”. Those of us who enjoy the mixed sexual aspect of sharing bodies and minds Then there is the “new age swinger” that loves the extension of social media and the thought of what the rest of us do. X | |||
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"Not saying the site does not work for us. The conversation was started to discuss how so many people use swinging sites as just social media platforms. We are very fortunate to have some gorgeous regular friends who we meet. Even going on holiday with our special friends. We just noted that so many profiles on here have no intention of swinging. That’s all x If you use 'reply+quote' it'll be easier to see who you're replying to. I joined in 2008 as a single (a few years on another site prior). I met purely via the site until I started clubbing in 2009, became a couple on here in 2011, back to being a single in 2023 and now have two partners, both of whom came from the site. In all those years I've met via messages on here, organised socials and clubs. Plus networking and meeting friends of friends. I/we still do. But we have no intention of meeting 'players' just looking for a quick bunk up, a notch on a bedpost or another veri. We're social animals. That doesn't mean we don't have sex or meet new people. It simply means we need to enjoy someone's company and conversation and be attracted to them as a person rather than just a hole or dick. Has the site changed? Not in my mind. Others will obviously feel differently. But I do think that's as much down to age, geography and choice of approach (just online or clubs/socials too). The site still has all the same tools it had in 2007. There's still a lot of the same people here from when I joined too. It's not always the site that's changed. Sometimes it's the users, their wants and often it's down to them not finding it as easy to find company as when they were a few years younger. Something that I can honestly say I've found myself. But that's life. We all get older and sometimes aren't as willing to recognise the fact we're not as young/attractive/in demand as we once were. 🤷♂️" Our thread for clarity was not aimed at the site of Fab or any others. Our conversational topic was the recognition that in our opinion , based on the amount of forum pages dedicated to what seems like social Media interaction and interests has diluted what was when we all started a simple way to meet people for sexual swapping and pleasure. You like us had no pocket computer and had no more than the ability to swap phone numbers and chat. Now when a phone number is presented for “the keen couple who message constantly, the “hi “ “how are you” brigade, you send a phone number encourage verbal connection and then they disappear? Or is it just us ???? | |||
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"Not saying the site does not work for us. The conversation was started to discuss how so many people use swinging sites as just social media platforms. We are very fortunate to have some gorgeous regular friends who we meet. Even going on holiday with our special friends. We just noted that so many profiles on here have no intention of swinging. That’s all x If you use 'reply+quote' it'll be easier to see who you're replying to. I joined in 2008 as a single (a few years on another site prior). I met purely via the site until I started clubbing in 2009, became a couple on here in 2011, back to being a single in 2023 and now have two partners, both of whom came from the site. In all those years I've met via messages on here, organised socials and clubs. Plus networking and meeting friends of friends. I/we still do. But we have no intention of meeting 'players' just looking for a quick bunk up, a notch on a bedpost or another veri. We're social animals. That doesn't mean we don't have sex or meet new people. It simply means we need to enjoy someone's company and conversation and be attracted to them as a person rather than just a hole or dick. Has the site changed? Not in my mind. Others will obviously feel differently. But I do think that's as much down to age, geography and choice of approach (just online or clubs/socials too). The site still has all the same tools it had in 2007. There's still a lot of the same people here from when I joined too. It's not always the site that's changed. Sometimes it's the users, their wants and often it's down to them not finding it as easy to find company as when they were a few years younger. Something that I can honestly say I've found myself. But that's life. We all get older and sometimes aren't as willing to recognise the fact we're not as young/attractive/in demand as we once were. 🤷♂️ Our thread for clarity was not aimed at the site of Fab or any others. Our conversational topic was the recognition that in our opinion , based on the amount of forum pages dedicated to what seems like social Media interaction and interests has diluted what was when we all started a simple way to meet people for sexual swapping and pleasure. You like us had no pocket computer and had no more than the ability to swap phone numbers and chat. Now when a phone number is presented for “the keen couple who message constantly, the “hi “ “how are you” brigade, you send a phone number encourage verbal connection and then they disappear? Or is it just us ???? " I only swap numbers with people I'm intending to meet, who I know are genuine (because I've met them at clubs or they're friends of friends) or who I've met for a quick social coffee before any planned activity. Do I chat shit with some about anything and everything later? Yep. I've made a lot of good friends through swinging. Some I've got naked with, others I haven't and don't want to. Times change. Technology improves. If some want to use the site and swinging purely as an extension of social media then that's on them, not me. They don't affect me at all because they choose to do things differently. I can still easily identify those that meet, those that attend clubs and those that ar just here for online activity, chat and wank naked material. And they're easy to ignore and avoid. If anything I'd say the boom to membership due to tech changes, media discussion about swinging and the ease of setting up a profile has provided as many advantages as it has disadvantages. It's simply down to how you individually manage your engagements and how you choose to approach others. 🤷♂️ | |||
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"Not saying the site does not work for us. The conversation was started to discuss how so many people use swinging sites as just social media platforms. We are very fortunate to have some gorgeous regular friends who we meet. Even going on holiday with our special friends. We just noted that so many profiles on here have no intention of swinging. That’s all x If you use 'reply+quote' it'll be easier to see who you're replying to. I joined in 2008 as a single (a few years on another site prior). I met purely via the site until I started clubbing in 2009, became a couple on here in 2011, back to being a single in 2023 and now have two partners, both of whom came from the site. In all those years I've met via messages on here, organised socials and clubs. Plus networking and meeting friends of friends. I/we still do. But we have no intention of meeting 'players' just looking for a quick bunk up, a notch on a bedpost or another veri. We're social animals. That doesn't mean we don't have sex or meet new people. It simply means we need to enjoy someone's company and conversation and be attracted to them as a person rather than just a hole or dick. Has the site changed? Not in my mind. Others will obviously feel differently. But I do think that's as much down to age, geography and choice of approach (just online or clubs/socials too). The site still has all the same tools it had in 2007. There's still a lot of the same people here from when I joined too. It's not always the site that's changed. Sometimes it's the users, their wants and often it's down to them not finding it as easy to find company as when they were a few years younger. Something that I can honestly say I've found myself. But that's life. We all get older and sometimes aren't as willing to recognise the fact we're not as young/attractive/in demand as we once were. 🤷♂️ Our thread for clarity was not aimed at the site of Fab or any others. Our conversational topic was the recognition that in our opinion , based on the amount of forum pages dedicated to what seems like social Media interaction and interests has diluted what was when we all started a simple way to meet people for sexual swapping and pleasure. You like us had no pocket computer and had no more than the ability to swap phone numbers and chat. Now when a phone number is presented for “the keen couple who message constantly, the “hi “ “how are you” brigade, you send a phone number encourage verbal connection and then they disappear? Or is it just us ???? I only swap numbers with people I'm intending to meet, who I know are genuine (because I've met them at clubs or they're friends of friends) or who I've met for a quick social coffee before any planned activity. Do I chat shit with some about anything and everything later? Yep. I've made a lot of good friends through swinging. Some I've got naked with, others I haven't and don't want to. Times change. Technology improves. If some want to use the site and swinging purely as an extension of social media then that's on them, not me. They don't affect me at all because they choose to do things differently. I can still easily identify those that meet, those that attend clubs and those that ar just here for online activity, chat and wank naked material. And they're easy to ignore and avoid. If anything I'd say the boom to membership due to tech changes, media discussion about swinging and the ease of setting up a profile has provided as many advantages as it has disadvantages. It's simply down to how you individually manage your engagements and how you choose to approach others. 🤷♂️" So you agree with us then that the modern focus on swinging is now an extension of social media to engage the keyboard warriors who simply add to revenue ? The creation of a section for players would obviously cost time and money ?? | |||
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"Not saying the site does not work for us. The conversation was started to discuss how so many people use swinging sites as just social media platforms. We are very fortunate to have some gorgeous regular friends who we meet. Even going on holiday with our special friends. We just noted that so many profiles on here have no intention of swinging. That’s all x If you use 'reply+quote' it'll be easier to see who you're replying to. I joined in 2008 as a single (a few years on another site prior). I met purely via the site until I started clubbing in 2009, became a couple on here in 2011, back to being a single in 2023 and now have two partners, both of whom came from the site. In all those years I've met via messages on here, organised socials and clubs. Plus networking and meeting friends of friends. I/we still do. But we have no intention of meeting 'players' just looking for a quick bunk up, a notch on a bedpost or another veri. We're social animals. That doesn't mean we don't have sex or meet new people. It simply means we need to enjoy someone's company and conversation and be attracted to them as a person rather than just a hole or dick. Has the site changed? Not in my mind. Others will obviously feel differently. But I do think that's as much down to age, geography and choice of approach (just online or clubs/socials too). The site still has all the same tools it had in 2007. There's still a lot of the same people here from when I joined too. It's not always the site that's changed. Sometimes it's the users, their wants and often it's down to them not finding it as easy to find company as when they were a few years younger. Something that I can honestly say I've found myself. But that's life. We all get older and sometimes aren't as willing to recognise the fact we're not as young/attractive/in demand as we once were. 🤷♂️ Our thread for clarity was not aimed at the site of Fab or any others. Our conversational topic was the recognition that in our opinion , based on the amount of forum pages dedicated to what seems like social Media interaction and interests has diluted what was when we all started a simple way to meet people for sexual swapping and pleasure. You like us had no pocket computer and had no more than the ability to swap phone numbers and chat. Now when a phone number is presented for “the keen couple who message constantly, the “hi “ “how are you” brigade, you send a phone number encourage verbal connection and then they disappear? Or is it just us ???? I only swap numbers with people I'm intending to meet, who I know are genuine (because I've met them at clubs or they're friends of friends) or who I've met for a quick social coffee before any planned activity. Do I chat shit with some about anything and everything later? Yep. I've made a lot of good friends through swinging. Some I've got naked with, others I haven't and don't want to. Times change. Technology improves. If some want to use the site and swinging purely as an extension of social media then that's on them, not me. They don't affect me at all because they choose to do things differently. I can still easily identify those that meet, those that attend clubs and those that ar just here for online activity, chat and wank naked material. And they're easy to ignore and avoid. If anything I'd say the boom to membership due to tech changes, media discussion about swinging and the ease of setting up a profile has provided as many advantages as it has disadvantages. It's simply down to how you individually manage your engagements and how you choose to approach others. 🤷♂️ So you agree with us then that the modern focus on swinging is now an extension of social media to engage the keyboard warriors who simply add to revenue ? The creation of a section for players would obviously cost time and money ?? " No. I don't agree at all. Sorry. 🤷♂️ | |||
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"Not saying the site does not work for us. The conversation was started to discuss how so many people use swinging sites as just social media platforms. We are very fortunate to have some gorgeous regular friends who we meet. Even going on holiday with our special friends. We just noted that so many profiles on here have no intention of swinging. That’s all x If you use 'reply+quote' it'll be easier to see who you're replying to. I joined in 2008 as a single (a few years on another site prior). I met purely via the site until I started clubbing in 2009, became a couple on here in 2011, back to being a single in 2023 and now have two partners, both of whom came from the site. In all those years I've met via messages on here, organised socials and clubs. Plus networking and meeting friends of friends. I/we still do. But we have no intention of meeting 'players' just looking for a quick bunk up, a notch on a bedpost or another veri. We're social animals. That doesn't mean we don't have sex or meet new people. It simply means we need to enjoy someone's company and conversation and be attracted to them as a person rather than just a hole or dick. Has the site changed? Not in my mind. Others will obviously feel differently. But I do think that's as much down to age, geography and choice of approach (just online or clubs/socials too). The site still has all the same tools it had in 2007. There's still a lot of the same people here from when I joined too. It's not always the site that's changed. Sometimes it's the users, their wants and often it's down to them not finding it as easy to find company as when they were a few years younger. Something that I can honestly say I've found myself. But that's life. We all get older and sometimes aren't as willing to recognise the fact we're not as young/attractive/in demand as we once were. 🤷♂️ Our thread for clarity was not aimed at the site of Fab or any others. Our conversational topic was the recognition that in our opinion , based on the amount of forum pages dedicated to what seems like social Media interaction and interests has diluted what was when we all started a simple way to meet people for sexual swapping and pleasure. You like us had no pocket computer and had no more than the ability to swap phone numbers and chat. Now when a phone number is presented for “the keen couple who message constantly, the “hi “ “how are you” brigade, you send a phone number encourage verbal connection and then they disappear? Or is it just us ???? I only swap numbers with people I'm intending to meet, who I know are genuine (because I've met them at clubs or they're friends of friends) or who I've met for a quick social coffee before any planned activity. Do I chat shit with some about anything and everything later? Yep. I've made a lot of good friends through swinging. Some I've got naked with, others I haven't and don't want to. Times change. Technology improves. If some want to use the site and swinging purely as an extension of social media then that's on them, not me. They don't affect me at all because they choose to do things differently. I can still easily identify those that meet, those that attend clubs and those that ar just here for online activity, chat and wank naked material. And they're easy to ignore and avoid. If anything I'd say the boom to membership due to tech changes, media discussion about swinging and the ease of setting up a profile has provided as many advantages as it has disadvantages. It's simply down to how you individually manage your engagements and how you choose to approach others. 🤷♂️ So you agree with us then that the modern focus on swinging is now an extension of social media to engage the keyboard warriors who simply add to revenue ? The creation of a section for players would obviously cost time and money ?? " ![]() ![]() | |||
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