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"Absolutely not! I am struggling to see how this lifestyle could have similarities to that case. You are talking about multiple men who were aware that she was not consenting " They claim they WERE AWARE as they say she and her husband invited them to "play". Same as "couples" on here say wives are aware they are cheating, husband is next door listening, wife enjoys anal, husband likes bi play... People Lie!!! Unless you specifically speak to someone directly and gear from them directly you could beat risk..her point was they NEVER questioned their actions or her consenting directly. | |||
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"Not sure if this has been discussed before, but in view of the shocking Gisele Pelicot case in France, may I ask a genuine question... Should consent within the lifestyle include some form of written transaction? How do people walk a path that NEVER condones illegal actions or unwilling participants yet still allows some level on spontaneity and lifestyle fun... Safe play in 2024 is much more than wearing a condom... I would like to hear people's sensible opinions and comments." Their is all the world of difference between consensual spontaneity and being dr*gged and r*ped. I read this three times and I'm still confused at how that case and swinging can be compared in any way, shape or form | |||
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"Not sure if this has been discussed before, but in view of the shocking Gisele Pelicot case in France, may I ask a genuine question... Should consent within the lifestyle include some form of written transaction? How do people walk a path that NEVER condones illegal actions or unwilling participants yet still allows some level on spontaneity and lifestyle fun... Safe play in 2024 is much more than wearing a condom... I would like to hear people's sensible opinions and comments. Their is all the world of difference between consensual spontaneity and being dr*gged and r*ped. I read this three times and I'm still confused at how that case and swinging can be compared in any way, shape or form" Since comprehension fails you. SOME of The men thought they were a swinging couple who BOTH got off from the act and that she was aware. And that since he was recording it the assumed they BOTH were watching the videos later. And since some were repeat visitors to their house that she was ok with it. And that if something was dodgy or off something would have been said by her. She was never aware..never knew it happened until finding tapes he had made because she was medicated!! So to think it can't relate or doesn't relate is nonsense. . | |||
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"Not sure if this has been discussed before, but in view of the shocking Gisele Pelicot case in France, may I ask a genuine question... Should consent within the lifestyle include some form of written transaction? How do people walk a path that NEVER condones illegal actions or unwilling participants yet still allows some level on spontaneity and lifestyle fun... Safe play in 2024 is much more than wearing a condom... I would like to hear people's sensible opinions and comments. Their is all the world of difference between consensual spontaneity and being dr*gged and r*ped. I read this three times and I'm still confused at how that case and swinging can be compared in any way, shape or form" going on the defensive and claiming there are no possible links between this case and the swinging scene doesnt help anyone. As has been stated above many of these men claim that they were invited to join the couples fetish, they were informed that she was consenting and they were just swinging. I personally dont believe a word of it but we MUST be aware that unless you actually speak to all involved and make sure in your own mind that they are willing participants then you risk a similar 15 year jail sentence to theirs. This is not an accusation against swingers it is a warning to just check. | |||
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"Not sure if this has been discussed before, but in view of the shocking Gisele Pelicot case in France, may I ask a genuine question... Should consent within the lifestyle include some form of written transaction? How do people walk a path that NEVER condones illegal actions or unwilling participants yet still allows some level on spontaneity and lifestyle fun... Safe play in 2024 is much more than wearing a condom... I would like to hear people's sensible opinions and comments. Their is all the world of difference between consensual spontaneity and being dr*gged and r*ped. I read this three times and I'm still confused at how that case and swinging can be compared in any way, shape or form going on the defensive and claiming there are no possible links between this case and the swinging scene doesnt help anyone. As has been stated above many of these men claim that they were invited to join the couples fetish, they were informed that she was consenting and they were just swinging. I personally dont believe a word of it but we MUST be aware that unless you actually speak to all involved and make sure in your own mind that they are willing participants then you risk a similar 15 year jail sentence to theirs. This is not an accusation against swingers it is a warning to just check." Exactly this!!! Thank you | |||
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"Is this a joke 🤷♂️ I choose to sleep with other men with husbands blessing and vice versa that’s what swinging is what happened in France Definately isn’t swinging if your sleeping with d*ugged women you don’t need a written letter you need jail simple as that really " | |||
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"Maybe men should just communicate directly with a woman before having sex with her. A note from her husband saying she consents just shouldn't cut it" Fully agree | |||
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"Not sure if this has been discussed before, but in view of the shocking Gisele Pelicot case in France, may I ask a genuine question... Should consent within the lifestyle include some form of written transaction? How do people walk a path that NEVER condones illegal actions or unwilling participants yet still allows some level on spontaneity and lifestyle fun... Safe play in 2024 is much more than wearing a condom... I would like to hear people's sensible opinions and comments. Their is all the world of difference between consensual spontaneity and being dr*gged and r*ped. I read this three times and I'm still confused at how that case and swinging can be compared in any way, shape or form going on the defensive and claiming there are no possible links between this case and the swinging scene doesnt help anyone. As has been stated above many of these men claim that they were invited to join the couples fetish, they were informed that she was consenting and they were just swinging. I personally dont believe a word of it but we MUST be aware that unless you actually speak to all involved and make sure in your own mind that they are willing participants then you risk a similar 15 year jail sentence to theirs. This is not an accusation against swingers it is a warning to just check. Exactly this!!! Thank you" There is no need to rude in your tone and for the record I wasn't going on the defensive. My point is that the defence given by some of those convicted was that it was a fetish or kink. That isn't swinging. Some swingers have kinks or fetishes - but by no means all. | |||
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