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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Not a new topic, I know. However, many people (up to 80%of you )may have herpes and not have symptoms so how can anyone really know their status, unless they have an episode? Thoughts, feelings, reactions?Where do/should HSV positive people go?

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By *anSusieCouple
over a year ago

Midlothian

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By *anSusieCouple
over a year ago

Midlothian

I would hope that as 'sex' is our hobby, that everyone on here would look after themselves with regular check ups. Of course you can never be certain so safe sex and any other precautions should be strictly adeared to. I suppose having sex as swingers do is a bit of a lottery. Only nobody wants their numbers to come up on this one (Dan)

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By *reedy_for_funCouple
over a year ago

My House

Did you pull 80% out of the air or did you find a hither-to unreported STD statistic?

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Where do/should HSV positive people go?"

Herpes sufferers know when its ok to be active and when to avoid sexual contact...

No reason they cant be here with rest of us...

As long as they are sensible and considerate of others....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Thanks for being so accommodating. I am pleased to know that people will not always hold sufferers in contempt.

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By *reedy_for_funCouple
over a year ago

My House

I've copied the message I've sent you in response to yours:

But HSV1 is mostly cold sores which isn't, per se, a sexually transmitted disease. HSV2 however is, in its entirety, sexually transmitted. So, to claim that as swingers, up to 80% of us have herpes is a mis-infomation as you don't differentiate between the two in your broad statement, even though you have the knowledge that up to 80% could be carrying, for the most part, the relatively harmless HSV1 virus.

Oral sex is only a problem if the HSV1 virus remains untreated (as in under-developed countries) and I'm pretty sure that most of us use a cold sore cream when we suffer from it - when its a noticeable rash. Cross-over between the two is highly unlikely with oral sex as either the HSV1 or HSV2 virus offer a certain immunity against the other.

Those that suffer from the HSV2 virus KNOW when they are shredding or not and as the person above has mentioned, you'd hope that they were sensible and responsible enough that they wouldn't play at those times.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

No one knows when they are shedding, only when they have active symptoms. You can't tell. That's why this disease is insidious. You may have it, but think you are clean. GUM clinics don't test for it. You may never have symptoms. You can still infect people. Scary? Indeed. Q

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By *ndymanchester1Man
over a year ago

salford

Ignorance is bliss they say. Think that people feel more comfortable not knowing true facts about herpes and how rif it is and difficult to stop the spread of. But also its viral, no worse than the type 1 cold sore, certainly not going to kill you, send you mad or have bits drop off. 80% may be correct in USA where they consider it differently, I understand its about 20% of adults in UK at the moment! Thats 1 in 5!! now lets go count our verications and see how many times we may of been exposed. However, as said above through the thread, it can't be tested for unless active, large percentage of people who have it are carriers (show no symptoms, condoms provide only moderate protection at best, so not long before UK up at 80%. I get checked out regularly as all on here should and writed above is correct in saying NHS clinic no longer test for it. Doesn't take long to google it.

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

Clinics don't 'test' for it as the test is useless

It checks the response to exposure not whether you currently have the infection and are infectious, which is actually what people are morw usually interested in

Hence getting yourself 'checked' etc in this case is no help at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A quick bit of research has shown that at the worst 16% might be infected in the US, the figure has not increased over a number of years.

More worrying, you can pass the virus on even if it's not apparently currently active. You can have it and remain completely clear of symptoms.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A quick bit of research has shown that at the worst 16% might be infected in the US, the figure has not increased over a number of years.

More worrying, you can pass the virus on even if it's not apparently currently active. You can have it and remain completely clear of symptoms.

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Genital herpes can be tested (and depending on area NHS clinics do test) but only when active, swabs are taken of the fluid in blisters which is the only way to identify it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

www.herpes.org.uk

best site for information. Play safe xx

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Did you pull 80% out of the air or did you find a hither-to unreported STD statistic? "

On the NHS website it says that around 80% of those infected will not know.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

That's true, one reason why it is so easily spread and can cause lots of problems. People with no symptoms infect others who show symptoms then there's the issue of who had it, who gave it and what happens now. I think it is a nightmare. Anyone can unknowingly infect someone else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you pull 80% out of the air or did you find a hither-to unreported STD statistic?

On the NHS website it says that around 80% of those infected will not know."

So...80% of those infected may not know...not as the OP suggested 80% of us are infected and don't know...I know i'm being pedantic here but there is an important distinction

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

With HSV1, the coldsore virus which can infect any part of your body though it is happier round your facial area, 80% of mature adults will have had some contact and will test positive but won't have noticeable symptoms. Only 10% of infected people have symptoms. It's only a minor irritation for most people and your immune system deals with it however the virus stays in your body, just like chickenpox virus. It can remain dormant for years, then pop up and cause symptoms when your body is under stress. Just like chickenpox

causes shingles. Hope that helps.

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By *ndymanchester1Man
over a year ago

salford

Just being mischievous. But from above threads, taking the most commonly quoted stats.

If 16% of adult population know they are infected.

Therefore 84% don't believe they are infected.

But 80% of people don't know / realise they are infected! 0.8 x 0.84 = 67%!!!!!!!! and that's in addition to the 16% that do know. Amazing what percentages and an argument can indicate lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Yeah, it can get a bit silly. I started this after reading a thread on using protection when having oral sex. HSV 1 is becoming more common because we all love a bit of oral and people think they are safe because they don't have symptoms. We think that getting the all clear from the GUM clinic means we are just that- all clear. However, since they.

don't do a test until you have symptoms, it's a bit like bolting the door

once the horse has bolted. If we all knew our status, we could enjoy sex responsibly and halt the spread of herpes.

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By *ndymanchester1Man
over a year ago

salford

Yes but I understand that because it is so rif in the states because so many people unwittingly spread the infection that it is so much more socially accepted I.e. we do not shun people who have chicken pox, shingles, cold sores and other viruses that are all directly related to herpes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But also its viral, no worse than the type 1 cold sore, certainly not going to kill you,

This is in fact not true type 1 is more likely to cause encephalitis than type 2 and if your immune compromised hsv 1 or 2 can in fact kill you

it can't be tested for unless active, this is not true as blood test can show antibodies and indicate if you've been exposed. This is not done routinely. So being newly tested and clean doesn't stop you being a carrier of hsv1 or 2 and it can be spread from skin shedding skin to skin contact and not just genital contact

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