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"has any one else came across this, we were in a club recently on a mixed night 2 couples and 2 reasonably atractive girls, and maybe 12 single guys, the other couple told us the 2 single girls were working girls who were there to beef up the numbers, dont know what the arrangement was in terms of payment, but we made a hasty exit as not really somthing we want to get mixed up in, been doing clubs happily for a few years now but not come across anything like this before, have any of you nice people came across anything similar" Name and shame the club!!! | |||
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"the privayte club in aston has working girls there, you as a customer don't pay them the club does, you just pay the entry free, basically the girls are there to cater for the single guys, they can;t say no so if a guy wants sex he knows hes going to get it unlike other clubs where its hit and miss, personally i don't have a problem with them, there are there to provide a service and they do it, if you don;t want to play with them you dont have to, from my point of view because of the working girls its rather pointless me going, i have been a couple of times and find it very hard to get sex simply because men are not going to take the time to talk to me when i could say after 20 mins of chat i dont want to go to a room with them when they can't just join in with the working girls, so from a female point of view its not a very good club if you want to play from a mans its great lol" Why can't they just go to a brothel then? theres plenty around lol | |||
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"the privayte club in aston has working girls there, you as a customer don't pay them the club does, you just pay the entry free, basically the girls are there to cater for the single guys, they can;t say no so if a guy wants sex he knows hes going to get it unlike other clubs where its hit and miss, personally i don't have a problem with them, there are there to provide a service and they do it, if you don;t want to play with them you dont have to, from my point of view because of the working girls its rather pointless me going, i have been a couple of times and find it very hard to get sex simply because men are not going to take the time to talk to me when i could say after 20 mins of chat i dont want to go to a room with them when they can't just join in with the working girls, so from a female point of view its not a very good club if you want to play from a mans its great lol Why can't they just go to a brothel then? theres plenty around lol" because its illegal and this way its a nice way of sidestepping the law and also to remain relatively safe ...its win win for the girls and the club . | |||
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" One thing I have encountered is working girls on swingers sites." you should report em straight away and get em nuked or we will be deluged | |||
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"I cast no judgement against working girls...but since when has swinging and prostitution gone hand in hand? I must be completely naive but if I wanted to pay for sex I would go to a brothel I swing because I enjoy the sexual freedom and the chance to meet other people with the same outlook on life not to meet with people who are being paid to fuck,For me it tarnishes my concept and beliefs of what swinging is all about xx if you dont want to pay for sex i take it your getting into clubs free then? " | |||
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"I cast no judgement against working girls...but since when has swinging and prostitution gone hand in hand? I must be completely naive but if I wanted to pay for sex I would go to a brothel I swing because I enjoy the sexual freedom and the chance to meet other people with the same outlook on life not to meet with people who are being paid to fuck,For me it tarnishes my concept and beliefs of what swinging is all about xx Not hand in hand but sometimes I suppose there is some overlap. Are the club hostesses or greedy girls doing the same job as a girl in a massage parlour? I would venture to suggest no, from very personal experience not at all. Imagine if you will we fulfil our ambition of running our own club finally putting our money where our mouth is. We play with the members to help make the nights go off better. We are experienced swingers and will play with most provided they are friendly, clean and practice safe sex. Does our commercial involvement compromise you ethical code? As a previous post said Brothels are illegal which is perverse. I have see working girls on an industrial estate getting into strangers cars. How dangerous is that. Some of us are not as fortunate as we are. They dont have a loving partner but they have the same needs and they are just as real. The girls who cater to them should be allowed to work together for their own protection. " | |||
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"sod it what i was trying to say if you dont want to pay for sex i take it youre getting into clubs for free then" You pay for the club facilities not the sex lol | |||
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"sod it what i was trying to say if you dont want to pay for sex i take it youre getting into clubs for free then You pay for the club facilities not the sex lol " but if it wasnt for the sex you wouldnt go | |||
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"sod it what i was trying to say if you dont want to pay for sex i take it youre getting into clubs for free then You pay for the club facilities not the sex lol but if it wasnt for the sex you wouldnt go" If it wasnt for the chicken i wouldnt go to KFC either lol | |||
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"We don't always play at clubs if there is'nt anyone that we want to play with but what we do do is always have a great time in an atmosphere and environment that we like " Yep we go somtimes just to chill,chat and sauna etc just nice to be with like minded people x | |||
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" swinging clubs are supposed to be for swingers, dont really want to name and shame club as A,dont know if i,m allowed to, and B, have allways had a good time there before, for me though if i was a single swinger part of the exctement would be in the chase i wouldnt be up for paying for it, or having it paid for me, " Think there should be a C and D there as well C, You have 100% proof or a very good lawyer ! Ive been to a few clubs on " greedy girls nights" and the girls were all up for a lot of fun.. Ive also had a guy telling me my now wife must be on the game ( didnt know she was with me when he was telling me this ) as shes having to much fun ( it was a greedy girls night ) D, theres no name and shame in the forum ... says in the rules just before you post | |||
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"Despite the way some singles act, and it seems to be getting worse at a lot of places, Honeypot you are 100% right. You pay to get admission to a venue. For some it may be a place you may meet likeminded people. For others it may be a place to indulge their desires and somewhere to play. I can appreciate the analogy to a vanilla club. So far however I havn't found a vanilla club that features a big round bed with loads of naked people writhing on it !! You wouldnt ever go to a vanilla club and expect to pull, but you may find dancers paid to get people on the floor. Each to their own, If you dont like the thought that some girls at a club are paid to be there dont go to it,but please dont claim some moral high ground. The people who frequent those clubs are different to you not worse. It isnt to every taste and there are plenty of clubs that dont do it just stick to going there. " I am not claiming any higher moral ground at all and I can't see in any of my posts where I have done so All I have done is express an opinion with out disrespecting anyones elses | |||
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"Despite the way some singles act, and it seems to be getting worse at a lot of places, Honeypot you are 100% right. You pay to get admission to a venue. For some it may be a place you may meet likeminded people. For others it may be a place to indulge their desires and somewhere to play. I can appreciate the analogy to a vanilla club. So far however I havn't found a vanilla club that features a big round bed with loads of naked people writhing on it !! You wouldnt ever go to a vanilla club and expect to pull, but you may find dancers paid to get people on the floor. Each to their own, If you dont like the thought that some girls at a club are paid to be there dont go to it,but please dont claim some moral high ground. The people who frequent those clubs are different to you not worse. It isnt to every taste and there are plenty of clubs that dont do it just stick to going there. " Totally agree after all us lot are not exactly the social "norm" And after all society is always right to judge others isnt it? Craig x | |||
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"I cast no judgement against working girls...but since when has swinging and prostitution gone hand in hand? I must be completely naive but if I wanted to pay for sex I would go to a brothel I swing because I enjoy the sexual freedom and the chance to meet other people with the same outlook on life not to meet with people who are being paid to fuck,For me it tarnishes my concept and beliefs of what swinging is all about xx " everyone swings for their own reasons tho dont they, some like the friendship and scoial side of it, while for others its just about sex, thats why there are clubs etc to cater for all, i have been to clubs many times and found not a lot going off, i do find it off putting, some can be like a social in towels lol to me the point in going to a swingers club is to have sex if its not happening you have to try another club, and the private club is a very hard core club not for the faint hearted, but thats what some people are after | |||
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"Despite the way some singles act, and it seems to be getting worse at a lot of places, Honeypot you are 100% right. You pay to get admission to a venue. For some it may be a place you may meet likeminded people. For others it may be a place to indulge their desires and somewhere to play. I can appreciate the analogy to a vanilla club. So far however I havn't found a vanilla club that features a big round bed with loads of naked people writhing on it !! You wouldnt ever go to a vanilla club and expect to pull, but you may find dancers paid to get people on the floor. Each to their own, If you dont like the thought that some girls at a club are paid to be there dont go to it,but please dont claim some moral high ground. The people who frequent those clubs are different to you not worse. It isnt to every taste and there are plenty of clubs that dont do it just stick to going there. " I'm not sure how saying that working girls and swingers differ quite fundamentally can in anyway be construed as taking the moral high ground? My understanding is that swingers enjoy recreational sex, working girls get paid for sex - quite a big difference. Personlly if we go to a club, we got to go to a club and see what will happen in much the same way that if we meet a couple we are not going with any exoectations. I do not pay for sex if I pay to get in to a swinfgers club, I pay to get in the club. I kind of see your logic but to be honestly it's seriously flawed. As to whether working girls have a place in clubs, well personally I would say not, but I can see that they can and do serve a purpose. But to me, I'd like to play with somebody that wants too, rather than somebosy who is paid by the club's management to fuck anybody and everybody in order to keep the single males happy. To me that's not swinging. | |||
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"Here's a thought, if a woman is a working girl, can she not be a swinger too? I mean away from the payment side. W " That pop was you flipping the lid off a whole new can of worms !!! | |||
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"Here's a thought, if a woman is a working girl, can she not be a swinger too? I mean away from the payment side. W " Agreed we know a few working girls who are also swingers Love the new name by the way it really suits you lol xx | |||
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"Here's a thought, if a woman is a working girl, can she not be a swinger too? I mean away from the payment side. W Agreed we know a few working girls who are also swingers Love the new name by the way it really suits you lol xx" We like the name too, was cleverly thought up by 'dirtyduo'. W | |||
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" swinging clubs are supposed to be for swingers, dont really want to name and shame club as A,dont know if i,m allowed to, and B, have allways had a good time there before, for me though if i was a single swinger part of the exctement would be in the chase i wouldnt be up for paying for it, or having it paid for me, Think there should be a C and D there as well C, You have 100% proof or a very good lawyer ! Ive been to a few clubs on " greedy girls nights" and the girls were all up for a lot of fun.. Ive also had a guy telling me my now wife must be on the game ( didnt know she was with me when he was telling me this ) as shes having to much fun ( it was a greedy girls night ) D, theres no name and shame in the forum ... says in the rules just before you post " okay as for c have (since putting on forum) asked a few people about this club who we know who are, or have been regulars at club, they do use working girls on most of the single nights which has drove a lot of the couples away, the guys pay in the club, then if they want a working girl they have to pay extra, it is not advertised so if you go as a couple as we did you will NOT be told this is going on, and as for D erm..that is what we are saying pretty much in A lol, we are swingers we are proper swingers, we want to go to proper swinging clubs and meet proper swingers to swing with in that philosophy there is no room for working girls or men who pay for sex, simple as.. | |||
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"Here's a thought, if a woman is a working girl, can she not be a swinger too? I mean away from the payment side. W " yep does happen under the banner of escort rather than working girl ... the ones i know do it cus they love sex and like a change from swinging. All 3 have good well paid day jobs too so its not the money (one is on 80k a year) they seem to love the adventure of acting the paid woman. | |||
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"I cast no judgement against working girls...but since when has swinging and prostitution gone hand in hand? I must be completely naive but if I wanted to pay for sex I would go to a brothel I swing because I enjoy the sexual freedom and the chance to meet other people with the same outlook on life not to meet with people who are being paid to fuck,For me it tarnishes my concept and beliefs of what swinging is all about xx " Have seen alot of Working girls in clubs, but not as singles or as hostesses, but as GFE escort bookings.. Personaly we don't care, but if a girl asked us to pay at a club, we would simply burst out laughing.. Quite a few girls goto swing clubs as a personal thing to get away from ther working girl day job.. if they keep the both seperate then why care what they do during day... | |||
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"I cast no judgement against working girls...but since when has swinging and prostitution gone hand in hand? I must be completely naive but if I wanted to pay for sex I would go to a brothel I swing because I enjoy the sexual freedom and the chance to meet other people with the same outlook on life not to meet with people who are being paid to fuck,For me it tarnishes my concept and beliefs of what swinging is all about xx Have seen alot of Working girls in clubs, but not as singles or as hostesses, but as GFE escort bookings.. Personaly we don't care, but if a girl asked us to pay at a club, we would simply burst out laughing.. Quite a few girls goto swing clubs as a personal thing to get away from ther working girl day job.. if they keep the both seperate then why care what they do during day..." I don't care what anyone does as a day job...if a working girl is attending a club as a swinger then she's not being paid to boost numbers or make the club look better,shes going with a personal interest,the same as the rest of us attending,and not a business interest and I have no problem with that or the fact that get paid for sex at other times I have a friend who was a working girl and is now married and a swinger and I work occasionally with another girl who will do escort work to pay for lovely holidays... I do not have a problem with anyone who gets paid for sex Myself and other in this thread were offering opinions as to what they thought about prostitutes in swinging clubs which is what the OP asked for | |||
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" When Sasha worked at the private club she recieved £150 to be at the club, nothing more, who she played with was her choice, the club simply ensured that there were a number of females in the club at all times who were looking to play with single guys. " ok now im genuinly intersted to know how it works, i always though that the girls at the private club had to shag anyone who to wanted to go with them, can they say no to a guy if they don't like them then? and if so is her job up for grabs lmao | |||
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" When Sasha worked at the private club she recieved £150 to be at the club, nothing more, who she played with was her choice, the club simply ensured that there were a number of females in the club at all times who were looking to play with single guys. ok now im genuinly intersted to know how it works, i always though that the girls at the private club had to shag anyone who to wanted to go with them, can they say no to a guy if they don't like them then? and if so is her job up for grabs lmao" I would have thought it would be like any other WG environment (other than forced work), where the WG can pick and choose who they will have sex with, of course if one gets too choosy then they wont be asked back there, I guess it's quite the case of so long as the guy is clean and respectful then business is business, if one was to only pick the attractive ones then I guess she may soon be out or work. W | |||
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"If a club has working girls for the single (or cheating) guys, then surely it takes the pressure off, the swingers can swing and the singles can be entertained and feel they've had a good evening." We've been to over 30 different clubs. The only club we've seen working girls, at work, was in Holland. The singles at that club definitely thought that because working girls were taking on anyone then all the women there would do the same. It was the nastiest experience we have had in a club and we put it down to the presence of the girls and the atmosphere that engendered. Our opinion is that clubs that employ working girls are to be avoided. | |||
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"Just to throw a slightly different spin on this. I've never been to a club where I've experienced working girls there, (although I've only ever been to 2 clubs in my life and a private party ) but... There are two things that seem to be a theme across genuine swingers: 1: Too many single guys pestering for meets/sex 2: A lot of Swingers saying attached guys are cheats and they wont meet them If a club has working girls for the single (or cheating) guys, then surely it takes the pressure off, the swingers can swing and the singles can be entertained and feel they've had a good evening. If by chance a couple like a guy and get it on with him, then I'm sure he'd prefer to be with a couple or female who is enjoying his company, than being with someone who's paid for his company. If he'd rather be with a working girl than the swinger/s then nobody's losing out. If that makes sense." the thing is a lot of women or couples who go to mixed (singles and couples) nights want to play with single guys, but having working girls there kind of waters down their options, especially for the more mature ladys if you get my drift, why as a single would you spend half the night with a couple with no certain outcome, when there are 2 or 3 young fit working girls who you dont have to try so hard with,even with us a younger couple who would have maybe been up for a bit of mmf on the night in question,we didnt see the point in staying, so all this does is stops genuine couples going to mixed nights then what are you left with, zanadu in manchester went that way it was a swingers club started bringing in working girls, and last i heard is a gentlemens club now, | |||
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"If a club has working girls for the single (or cheating) guys, then surely it takes the pressure off, the swingers can swing and the singles can be entertained and feel they've had a good evening. We've been to over 30 different clubs. The only club we've seen working girls, at work, was in Holland. The singles at that club definitely thought that because working girls were taking on anyone then all the women there would do the same. It was the nastiest experience we have had in a club and we put it down to the presence of the girls and the atmosphere that engendered. Our opinion is that clubs that employ working girls are to be avoided." Same thing happend to us in a club in France. What made things worse was that condoms were not allways used. | |||
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"sod it what i was trying to say if you dont want to pay for sex i take it youre getting into clubs for free then You pay for the club facilities not the sex lol but if it wasnt for the sex you wouldnt go" Clap trap... | |||
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"the privayte club in aston has working girls there, you as a customer don't pay them the club does, you just pay the entry free, basically the girls are there to cater for the single guys, they can;t say no so if a guy wants sex he knows hes going to get it unlike other clubs where its hit and miss, personally i don't have a problem with them, there are there to provide a service and they do it, if you don;t want to play with them you dont have to, from my point of view because of the working girls its rather pointless me going, i have been a couple of times and find it very hard to get sex simply because men are not going to take the time to talk to me when i could say after 20 mins of chat i dont want to go to a room with them when they can't just join in with the working girls, so from a female point of view its not a very good club if you want to play from a mans its great lol" The problem with working girls in swinger's clubs is that numbers of genuine swingers will dwindle once it becomes known a club employs working girls. I certainly don't fancy the idea of shagging a girl because she's being paid to shag me, I'd much rather spend a little time getting to know someone in a club and play with her if she finds me attractive and vice versa. Working girls have their own clearly defined markets and swing club owners are being rather unscrupulous by employing working girls to satisfy his swinger clientelle. Although saying that, if a club wants to use them on single guy nights then I don't have a problem with that, I'd just rather they weren't present on couples nights. | |||
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